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Newbie planning on flashing Vodaphone VPA Compact

I have just recently ordered the German Vodaphone version of the i-mate jam and should be recieving it within the next few days. I have been eyeing this forum for ways to flash it from German to English. I've seen a number of different threads, some quite long, and it seems as though the procedure for flashing has changed a bit over the months.
I'm a bit lost, so I'll write what I think I understand, and hopefully someone will come along and correct me before I make a brick out of my new baby
It appears that there are 3 sections to the firmware. The ROM the Extended ROM and the Radio firmware.
-I believe that the VPA comes with Radio firmware version 1.11 which I understand is the latest. That is language independent and can be left untouched.
-The ROM is the actual OS. I need to download an English ROM and MaUpgradeUt_noID, and follow this procedure http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19504
-The Extended ROM confuses me the most. I am guessing that this is where the vendor specific software is loaded (vodaphone *this*, vodaphone *that*, anything else that is not standard with WM 2003 SE) Is this correct?
If I flash the main ROM, does the Extended ROM stay intact? Do I loose any functionality? Are there any common pitfalls or any things to keep in mind as I try to do this? What's a worst case scenario?
If searched the forums but I've never found all of this stuff in an updated form all in one place. I'm thrilled to be receiving my first windows mobile phone and would hate to end up with a brick on the first day :roll:
Thanks in advance for any thoughts, info, or corrections to come my way.
Steve

marsonist said:
It appears that there are 3 sections to the firmware. The ROM the Extended ROM and the Radio firmware.
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Yes you’re correct
-The ROM is the actual OS. I need to download an English ROM and MaUpgradeUt_noID, and follow this procedure http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19504
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Yes I think you’re also correct here
-The Extended ROM confuses me the most. I am guessing that this is where the vendor specific software is loaded (vodaphone *this*, vodaphone *that*, anything else that is not standard with WM 2003 SE) Is this correct?
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Yes you’re correct
If I flash the main ROM, does the Extended ROM stay intact? Do I loose any functionality? Are there any common pitfalls or any things to keep in mind as I try to do this? What's a worst case scenario?
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If you flash only the main ROM (OS) yes your extended rom will stay intact.
From my understanding, if you flash the OS ROM that is the same version as your Extended ROM then you should have minimal problems. Eg. You have GER OS ROM v1.11 and Extended ROM v1.11 and you flash ENG OS ROM v1.11 – this should be ok because the extended rom has the updated patches for the OS ROM v1.11
But you may have software problems if eg.You have GER OS ROM v1.06 and Extended ROM v1.06 and you flash ENG OS ROM v1.11 – this is because the patches in the extended rom are not updated for the OS ROM v1.11
Therefore, if you want to mix and match, I think you just need to check that your Extended Rom version is the same as your OS ROM version then you should be ok.
I would recommend to backup your extended rom before doing anything, just incase you need the patches. Use Loadvdisk.exe to unhide your extended rom folder (located in root -\) then use activesync or fileexplorer to copy them to SD card or something.
Hope this helps.

Three Russian ROM from Damp

I have made three Russian ROM from Damped ROM v. 1.22.411.1
The first contains:
- OS without changes
- Black mainsplash
- radio from Arabian ROM
http://rapidshare.com/files/625681...duemonocle_1.22.411.1_4.1.13.47_02.98.90.rar
The second contains:
- Completely changed the screen of loading
- Has replaced the standard calculator on CalcOne.
- Has removed unnecessary pictures, etc.
http://rapidshare.com/files/630354...lack_V_1.0_1.22.411.1_4.1.13.47_02.98.90.rar
The third same as the second, without Office and Windows Live
http://rapidshare.com/files/630382...lack_V_1.1_1.22.411.1_4.1.13.47_02.98.90.rar
To establish only after updating USPL

Congratulations!!
Finaly someone made it!!
I was trying to do my own cooked rom but I fail. I was trying to get OS.nb from Part02.raw from dump (from other rom), but during process of converting, packages are lost and when I flash device with that I get plain vanilla rom without ANY customization. Simply, none of .provxml files are procesed during cold boot. That`s not what I want.
Any idea what went wrong?
Anyway, I see that you used Htc rom tool by Dark Simpson with Excalibur option to get .nbh file, is that correct??

anyone try and flash yet?
i would like to try but i don't want to brick my Vox.

Elisha said:
anyone try and flash yet?
i would like to try but i don't want to brick my Vox.
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I just made some tests and will risk saying, yes it`s safe to flash it.
But before flashing, run VOX_USPL <----- It`s very important, even if your device is SuperCIDed, just to be safer.

the rom is 1.22 and the USPL is 1.16?
is there any major improvements over 1.15?
is it even worth flashing?
my VOX is factory unlocked btw.

Elisha said:
the rom is 1.22 and the USPL is 1.16?
is there any major improvements over 1.15?
is it even worth flashing?
my VOX is factory unlocked btw.
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Read this: Vox USPL

i know of that USPL.......my question is that that didn't look like it gave much of a benefit.
and since my phone is factory unlocked again.....what does this 1.22 ROM offer?

Elisha said:
i know of that USPL.......my question is that that didn't look like it gave much of a benefit.
and since my phone is factory unlocked again.....what does this 1.22 ROM offer?
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More stable, and I think nothing more. I`m sure, your phone is sim-lock factory unlocked, but not a cid unlocked. None of providers or htc provide cid unlock phones.

is it more efficient in the sense that i will have more available free memory at startup?
i have about 23mb usable and fresh startup now!

does this rom have english language? i'm asking because i'm not russian so i don't understand cyrilic, hence i wouldn't understand anything ;P ...and one other question, because i've never flashed my vox: can i, for any reason, flash my vox with another rom, of a previous version than this rom, if i choose to??

This ROM contains two languages: Russian and English.
You can flashing any ROM after flashing VOX USPL.

ok thank you very much for elucidating me

one other question: i've flashed with your rom, but now i have an issue: my qwerty keyboard as a different layout than the one the rom has...my keyboard as the dot next to the P...this layout as the dot next to the Q...consequently the first line of the keyboard is one position shifted to the right...what can i do about it? is there some key in the registry taht i could change?

never mind i already solved my problem...but jesus what i had to do to get through it :S
to anybody that could have been through the same issue as i did:
http://www.modaco.com/content/Smart...obile-Smartphone-Internationalization-Issues/
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/winxp/xp-lcid.mspx
also check the registry key in \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD
and change it acordingly with your language code (check the second link for the code)

Really QWERTY keyboards in Russian and English devices differ.
Try to replace a file T9.Libra.russian.0409.kmap.txt in \Windows, on what I apply.
I do not guarantee, that it will solve a problem.
Look also here and here.

Thank you for your rom. My orange sp e650 is really faster when accessing programs and there is more storage left on the phone I like it
And thanks goes to carrots99 too for pointing to this excellent article from Menneisyys. It really helped me putting french language back but I still had to do a lot of editing in the txt file.

Any chance of some screen shots?

Sure. What screenshots would you like ?
I have a small request also. It seems that this rom doesn't support custom animated splash screens in HKLM\Software\HTC\Startup (or \Shutdown)
Could someone please give me the values listed here ? I think a dll was registered here ...

for the animated startup and shutdown screens you have to check the registry for this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Startup\1]
"Dll"="\Windows\oemstartup.dll"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Shutdown\1]
"Dll"="\windows\oemstartup.dll"
you need also to check if you have that dll file in windows folder

That's it ! This dll is not included in this rom. My only complaint actually. Any chance you could upload it for me ?

Am I correct?

After reading, reading and reading I still am very confused.
Just a question and maybe I did not read that particular thread, sorry in advance, but if I understand correctly:
1. I extract my ROM
2. Change a certain cab from dutch to english
3. Rebuild my ROM
4. I can than load that ROM without the CID unlock HDSPL thingy
Correct?
Yes? Okay I start building.
No? Any other change to get an english non edited/tweaked Rom on my TyTn II?
The more I write the more I start knowing the answer. I think.

One thing I know for sure is that you do need the "CID Unlook HDSPL thingy". Without that you cannot flash a ROM so if you're going to do any flashing make sure you HardSPL your device otherwise you can render you device inoperable.
As for a ROM you can dump your ROM to have a backup so if you need to restore it later for warranty purposes you can rebuild from that. Or you can use the dumped ROM to create your custom ROM.
Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349354.
It's a very easy way to create a custom ROM.
Good luck.

Well, what are you trying to do? "non-edited" and "Tweaked" will not go in the same sentence... Also I see "change a certain cab from Dutch to English" and I get totally confused like you are... What are you really trying to do? Do you want to flash a tweaked English "cooked ROM" onto your device? That's easy - there are a couple of ROMs you can try out: Dutty's, Q-Mobile, Schaps, Gullum... or do you want to learn how to cook your own ROM? _Alex_ has put together an awesome cooking tutorial and Kitchen tools for you to use so I suggest you read those again! In either case you'll need to first unlock your device using the great pof's HardSPL/CID unlock utility...else you'll have a very expensive brick on your hands! But again, my question: what are you really trying to do?

I just want my Dutch version turned into an English version. That's all. Nothing more nothing less. No additional changes to my ROM. Just another language. Easy isn't it.

UK Vodafone Magic Root & Rom summary/help.

OK just spent a significant amount of time reading your forums and im nearly there just wanted some clarification on rooting and choice of roms for a UK Vodafone Magic as there doesnt seem to be one collection of advice for UK voda's. Here's how I think it goes please correct me!!
1. Root using haykuro’s method and files in the wiki. (Did read a post about uk voda users then having to flash a rom because reboot didnt work fully.)
2. Update the SPL according to the same wiki article. This is where its hazy!!! I am now left with a rooted magic with stock rom, (ie uk voda in my case.) an updated spl, allowing me to now do a full nandroid backup of stock rom or only a backup of installed apps only???? See where im getting confused??
If I then choose to not flash a rom to my Magic I am now running my stock rom (or a haykuro rom.) but with the added bonus of it being rooted, which in-turn allows me to run those useful apps available in the store, bluex, setCPU etc???????
God am I going mad!!

mwade12001 said:
God am I going mad!!
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You and me both I'm in exactly the same situation as you, with the same decisions to make and same questions. I personally wouldn't mind installing a stock ION rom (or maybe the Japanese version since I speak English/Japanese) but essentially would like to know what you would like to know! Before I change my SPL though, I'd like to know if I can back it up.

mwade12001 said:
OK just spent a significant amount of time reading your forums and im nearly there just wanted some clarification on rooting and choice of roms for a UK Vodafone Magic as there doesnt seem to be one collection of advice for UK voda's. Here's how I think it goes please correct me!!
1. Root using haykuro’s method and files in the wiki. (Did read a post about uk voda users then having to flash a rom because reboot didnt work fully.)
2. Update the SPL according to the same wiki article. This is where its hazy!!! I am now left with a rooted magic with stock rom, (ie uk voda in my case.) an updated spl, allowing me to now do a full nandroid backup of stock rom or only a backup of installed apps only???? See where im getting confused??
If I then choose to not flash a rom to my Magic I am now running my stock rom (or a haykuro rom.) but with the added bonus of it being rooted, which in-turn allows me to run those useful apps available in the store, bluex, setCPU etc???????
God am I going mad!!
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try here, this will help you
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
thanks
B

Thanks for the fast response, this is the wiki i was referring to in my original post a helpful guide it is but it still doesn't answer the question, after I complete all the steps listed. Which rom will be on my phone?? the original rom?? (Vodafone in my case) or the haykuro rom??

mwade12001 said:
Thanks for the fast response, this is the wiki i was referring to in my original post a helpful guide it is but it still doesn't answer the question, after I complete all the steps listed. Which rom will be on my phone?? the original rom?? (Vodafone in my case) or the haykuro rom??
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Sorry have changed my rom a few times now. no, your rom will be replaced and and I think you will find te new rom its the ION rom.
Thanks
B

mwade12001 said:
OK just spent a significant amount of time reading your forums and im nearly there just wanted some clarification on rooting and choice of roms for a UK Vodafone Magic as there doesnt seem to be one collection of advice for UK voda's. Here's how I think it goes please correct me!!
1. Root using haykuro’s method and files in the wiki. (Did read a post about uk voda users then having to flash a rom because reboot didnt work fully.)
2. Update the SPL according to the same wiki article. This is where its hazy!!! I am now left with a rooted magic with stock rom, (ie uk voda in my case.) an updated spl, allowing me to now do a full nandroid backup of stock rom or only a backup of installed apps only???? See where im getting confused??
If I then choose to not flash a rom to my Magic I am now running my stock rom (or a haykuro rom.) but with the added bonus of it being rooted, which in-turn allows me to run those useful apps available in the store, bluex, setCPU etc???????
God am I going mad!!
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I haven't rooted mine yet either.
As a vetran of WMO I am a bit confused, but basically I think you can't root and keep your original Vodafone rom.
To do this, someone would have had to have produced a rooted version of this rom and no one has.
you can install the latest generic ion rom rooted.
if you want to go back to vodafone you'll have to find the rom.
The other annoying thing is that you can't do a rom backup without rooting it .... duh!
if I am wrong, someone please correct me!!

As i feared!! so the rom for rooting your magic also replaces the system with the haykuro ion rom. So as yet there is now way of keeping/backing up the original voda uk magic rom. (To revert back to at a later stage or if you f**k it up!!)
So this now leaves us uk voda magic users with the question which rom to go for which has the same functions as the uk voda rom. Ive read about the main ones ion r3 lite, nk02s htc beta 3, the rodgers and most recently the hero rom. Sounds like the community is really geting going!!
I am looking for :
1. wifi
2. bluetooth
3. 3G
4. Google sync
5. camera (as ive heard some roms dont support it.)
6. market (once again some roms with problems.)
7. superuser (obviously.)
8. Location
9. Voice is a bonus but not essential as uk voda does not have it
OK so i want it all lol, So far the Ion r3-lite looks the most suited but i cannot confirm the camera works so come on you clever ppl help us uk voda's out!!
Thx

brian colston said:
Sorry have changed my rom a few times now. no, your rom will be replaced and and I think you will find te new rom its the ION rom.
Thanks
B
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Thanks for the clarification Brian, so which roms have you tried and what are you using currently?

look, the first thing on this site to use is the search fuction. You can backup your current rom with nandroid backup. so please search before posting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524925
Thanks
B

mwade12001 said:
Thanks for the clarification Brian, so which roms have you tried and what are you using currently?
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I have messed around with all the roms at the moment even the superhero. i am using at the moment the HTC one, but i have added a few things myself to the rom. i keep messing about with them all the time and spend more time flashing it han using it.
if you need any help just let me know
Thanks
B

brian colston said:
look, the first thing on this site to use is the search fuction. You can backup your current rom with nandroid backup. so please search before posting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524925
Thanks
B
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but it appears you need to root before nandroid
and to successfully root, you need to install ion, otherwise it won't boot
isn't this catch 22 ?

Thanks Brian im probably going to give it a go tomorrow and go with the ion r3 lite rom to start!!
But once again to clarify you just pointed me to a link showing howto back up the rom by using the updated spl and nandroid backup function, to do this your magic must already be rooted and as you stated earlier by rooting the magic you will therefore replaced the vodafone rom with the ion rom. So a backup at this stage would be of the ion rom and not the stock vodafone rom. Am I correct???
If I get stuck i will be sure to take you up on your offer or further help. Thx

double post sorry colonel seems like your understanding what im saying!

mwade12001 said:
Thanks Brian im probably going to give it a go tomorrow and go with the ion r3 lite rom to start!!
But once again to clarify you just pointed me to a link showing howto back up the rom by using the updated spl and nandroid backup function, to do this your magic must already be rooted and as you stated earlier by rooting the magic you will therefore replaced the vodafone rom with the ion rom. So a backup at this stage would be of the ion rom and not the stock vodafone rom. Am I correct???
If I get stuck i will be sure to take you up on your offer or further help. Thx
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follow this:
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
whe you type in the command at stage 11, the phone should go into recovery mode and you should then see the option to backup you current rom. this will backup onto your storage card. if you dont see that option then DONOT update
Thanks
B

rooting your magic does not replace the user interface bit of the rom. You can root it without going to ION or anything else

brian colston said:
follow this:
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
whe you type in the command at stage 11, the phone should go into recovery mode and you should then see the option to backup you current rom. this will backup onto your storage card. if you dont see that option then DONOT update
Thanks
B
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barefootnz said:
rooting your magic does not replace the user interface bit of the rom. You can root it without going to ION or anything else
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thanks guys
1. will try the backup *done thanks*
2. * the guide does not replace the firmware, and my phone booted ok *
many thxs all

OK colonel so you have a success you followed the guide at " http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting "
................and didn't have a problem at the reboot command?? (So no need to revert to the follow on guide at " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524925 " which would mean having to replace the standard voda rom.)
So you now have a rooted uk voda magic running on the original rom?? As well as a backup of the original rom, meaning that you can now flash custom roms to your hearts content with the reassurance of being able to flash back to the original voda rom if you should wish.

mwade12001 said:
OK colonel so you have a success you followed the guide at " http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting "
................and didn't have a problem at the reboot command?? (So no need to revert to the follow on guide at " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524925 " which would mean having to replace the standard voda rom.)
So you now have a rooted uk voda magic running on the original rom?? As well as a backup of the original rom, meaning that you can now flash custom roms to your hearts content with the reassurance of being able to flash back to the original voda rom if you should wish.
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indeed - exactly as you say
I had no issue with the rebooting problem mentioned elsewhere
although I don't intend on running a custom rom yet.
I did it purely to get root access, inititially to follow superxnova's excellent guide to get other language fonts (I wanted hebrew):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480964
** Make sure you select the option to make a backup after the command typed in step 11 **
One other thing I would say, the instructions are precise until step 14&15
instead of doing step 14 & 15 I went into fastboot mode by - step 10 (then back button), typed the command in step 11,then pressed update. After update i selected reboot.
not sure if that made any difference as "home + power" does the same thing

3g Gone
Hi - i've managed to root today and to install the new some new roms - thanks to all of the wonderful advice here. One thing I have noticed is that I lose my 3g capability with any rom apart from my original vodafone rom. I'm not too bothered as I can restore from a nandroid backup. Would be nice to be able to use the SuperHero v2 build i've currently got working (apart from the 3g).
Thx.
Niall

riddelln said:
Hi - i've managed to root today and to install the new some new roms - thanks to all of the wonderful advice here. One thing I have noticed is that I lose my 3g capability with any rom apart from my original vodafone rom. I'm not too bothered as I can restore from a nandroid backup. Would be nice to be able to use the SuperHero v2 build i've currently got working (apart from the 3g).
Thx.
Niall
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you probably need to refresh the apn
do some searching to find out how
I have to say, i am not in a rush to change the vodafone rom
its pretty fast and unbranded.
When I had a winmo I was keen to get a new rom for speed and newer builds/features, but don't really feel the need now
perhaps i will later!

custom rom cooking for trophy ?

i want to start cooking my own roms for htc trophy.
but unfortunaly i cant find any turtorials how to cook an wp7 rom, can someone give me some links

I managed to figure out OSBuilder and how to extract NBH's and essentially build it back, changing logo, reg keys, including packages etc, after binary patching some executables of my own choice but I can't test my work until my contract is around last month, I don't want a bricked phone paying $87 a month. (Search OSBuilder)
*Edit* Screw it, tried flashing and I get a 260, even on community ROMs. Support here sucks ass. I'm considering finding a Chinese forum to ask, I'd rather deal with language translation issues than functionality issues.

I wouldn't ask here. There hasn't been much activity here with people who could actually help you. I'd try and go over to the ROM cooking forum. It won't be phone specific, but there is a tutorial. I haven't been brave enough to build one yet. I really would like to see a new rom that has usb video working as well as data sharing working well.

imotz said:
i want to start cooking my own roms for htc trophy.
but unfortunaly i cant find any turtorials how to cook an wp7 rom, can someone give me some links
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PM Me, i send u all my custom structure packages from my ROM

Yuji Saeki said:
*Edit* Screw it, tried flashing and I get a 260, even on community ROMs. Support here sucks ass.
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how about checking out what the ruu error means?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/RUU_Errors
seems like a problem with spl. maybe you have not installed hardspl yet (or rspl is how it's also called).
if stock spl is on device, it's normal that it spits out a error when you try to flash a unsigned (custom) nbh.

HD2Owner said:
how about checking out what the ruu error means?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/RUU_Errors
seems like a problem with spl. maybe you have not installed hardspl yet (or rspl is how it's also called).
if stock spl is on device, it's normal that it spits out a error when you try to flash a unsigned (custom) nbh.
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I was trying to downgrade but it was that I trusted someone else's CRC on the RUU and it wasn't original manufacturer, so 260 means in that instance it wasn't accepted. After downloading a new copy from another site it worked. I had forgotten about this post, my apologies on not updating it. After downgrading I could flash HardSPL, then custom.

Well, I think I can take another stab at building custom roms for the Spark_W. Does anyone still watch this thread?