Hi all!
I'm trying to make up my mind on whether or not to get a Touch Cruise...
My current shortlist is:
HTC Touch Cruise
Glofiish X800
(waiting for a VGA-unit with enough RAM & preferably a GPU)
Who can sway my mind in any direction here?
My usage profile is: a couple of SMS'es per day, perhaps a MMS as well. A couple of (short) calls per month(!). Occasional GPS'ing (got a GPS in the car, so don't really need it for that). Some web browsing via WiFi. Watching some videoclips and/or listening (via A2DP) to MP3's in the bus to/from work (about 1 hour in total each day).
Is the Touch Cruise up to this all, both processing-wise and battery-wise?
Eten Glofiish should be the best if you need a VGA in qVGA' size!
Regards,
Carty..
buy Cruise today and a vga model with enough ram tomorrow
The glofish is too slow and 64 Mo ram is poor
;o)
Ziggy
Ziggy95 said:
buy Cruise today and a vga model with enough ram tomorrow
The glofish is too slow and 64 Mo ram is poor
;o)
Ziggy
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Correct! VGA is not that necessary in a device with 2.8" screen.
athanaso77 said:
Correct! VGA is not that necessary in a device with 2.8" screen.
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Is the difference between VGA & QVGA clearly visible:
when watching a videoclip?
when using the UI & programs?
with photo's?
evert said:
Hi all!
My current shortlist is:
HTC Touch Cruise
Glofiish X800
(waiting for a VGA-unit with enough RAM & preferably a GPU)
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My current list is:
HTC Touch Cruise
i-Mate Ultimate 9502
Since 9502 is not on the market yet, and seems not to have official reseller in Europe, target is TC...
Forget Eten untill they change chipset, which currently doesn't support more than 64MB RAM. Or wait...
I mate 9502 is nice but 200g is heavy
Ziggy
I had a similar decision to make. VGA is nice, but it seems that it's only a detail like USB 2.0 (the phone still isn't faster only because it uses USB 2.0). Many people told me, that on 2,8" you can't see a difference between VGA and QVGA. In fact they were concerned, that VGA will cost more CPU Power and as a result, drain the battery more than a QVGA device and make it slowlier.
Maybe the Eten has a better panel (I mean better viewing angles for example). One thing I noticed was that the support of Glofiish should be worse. But thats only what I heard in Germany. Maybe support in your country is better.
vga can give issues when using pocketpc progrms which are not vgaAware plenty of threads about it in universal and other forums
Straputsky said:
I had a similar decision to make. VGA is nice, but it seems that it's only a detail like USB 2.0 (the phone still isn't faster only because it uses USB 2.0). Many people told me, that on 2,8" you can't see a difference between VGA and QVGA.
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Who knows of any site where there are some GOOD comparison photo's of a VGA screen vs. a QVGA screen? Preferably 2 units showing the same thing in VGA vs. QVGA resolution.
I'm having the same problems.
I can't really decide between the:
Polaris
Kaiser
I don't realy care about the VGA display, but a bit more color depth would be nice...
Does anyone have some personal experience whith these two?
evert said:
Who knows of any site where there are some GOOD comparison photo's of a VGA screen vs. a QVGA screen? Preferably 2 units showing the same thing in VGA vs. QVGA resolution.
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click here: http://www.tmdisplay.com/tm_dsp/press/img/VGA_QVGA0.jpg
evert said:
Hi all!
I'm trying to make up my mind on whether or not to get a Touch Cruise...
My current shortlist is:
HTC Touch Cruise
Glofiish X800
(waiting for a VGA-unit with enough RAM & preferably a GPU)
Who can sway my mind in any direction here?
My usage profile is: a couple of SMS'es per day, perhaps a MMS as well. A couple of (short) calls per month(!). Occasional GPS'ing (got a GPS in the car, so don't really need it for that). Some web browsing via WiFi. Watching some videoclips and/or listening (via A2DP) to MP3's in the bus to/from work (about 1 hour in total each day).
Is the Touch Cruise up to this all, both processing-wise and battery-wise?
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To be honest, I've pass by the same reflexions/questions as you. I've finally choose to buy the Cruise and I really don't regret my order. This mobile really impress me. It is the right evolution and a perfect mix between the p3300 and the p3600 + the Touch function. The Touch will allow you to do a lot of things with your fingers.
I've installed a MicroSD card 4Gb (SanDisk). This mean that this mobile support High Capacity card (good point !). The GPS is simply perfect ! Previously I've used a TomTom Go 910 and sincerely I don't regret it.
Well.. I'm a bit an HTC addict but I really think that this Company is currently making the best Windows Mobile machines.
Now about Eten, what I heard is that they are good but not really reliable (some customer complain about problems with the recent machines). Personally I've worked with an Eten G500+ some months ago. Good in GPS but not (really not) so good as the HTC's as phone.
Hope it help.
gnick666 said:
I don't realy care about the VGA display, but a bit more color depth would be nice...
Does anyone have some personal experience with these two?
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I have the Touch Cruise and i know the display of the Kaiser and i have to say that the display of the cruise shows the colors much better than the Kaiser.
But, thats not the question, the cruise is smaller, lighter and has the flush screen, but the Kaiser have a keyboard which is the only positive point for the kaiser
I will sell you my Kaiser?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....39064&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab=Selling
Borizli said:
I have the Touch Cruise and i know the display of the Kaiser and i have to say that the display of the cruise shows the colors much better than the Kaiser.
But, thats not the question, the cruise is smaller, lighter and has the flush screen, but the Kaiser have a keyboard which is the only positive point for the kaiser
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Tnx, I was leaning towards the Polaris anyways...
Considering that the keyboard slide can wearout after sometime...
I have the Hermes, and that's why the Kaiser was an option.
Don't forget that the Kaisers keyboard can turn fragile after some time (that's my fear), the kaiser is also way thicker and heavier than the polaris. And the kaiser will cost € 100,- more than the polaris.
If I were you, I'd go for the polaris. Just like I did
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Don't forget that the Kaisers keyboard can turn fragile after some time (that's my fear), the kaiser is also way thicker and heavier than the polaris. And the kaiser will cost € 100,- more than the polaris.
If I were you, I'd go for the polaris. Just like I did
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There's only a 40€ difference between the Polaris and the Kaiser...
The Polaris is around 630€ and thats the cheaper between the two.
So the money wasn't an aspect, I only wanted some personal oppinions about the two to help me decide
gnick666 said:
There's only a 40€ difference between the Polaris and the Kaiser...
The Polaris is around 630€ and thats the cheaper between the two.
So the money wasn't an aspect, I only wanted some personal oppinions about the two to help me decide
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Personally, I'm a bit skeptic with PDA with keyboard. First because of the mechanic that may have problems with the time. And second because the PDA is more thick.
If you plan to wrote a lot, the keyboard may help. If not, the stylus is okay.
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click here: http://www.tmdisplay.com/tm_dsp/press/img/VGA_QVGA0.jpg
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A perfect example. Thanks!
I will scale them both down to 3" so I have a more accurate comparison
Related
I guess my next PDA will be one of those. Up to now I was convinced it would be the P3600i, but TyTN II show muscles too. What do you people think?
What is important for me is that the device is:
1) Solid. I remember my HTC Wizard sliding in my pocket, very annoying.
2) Small (and especially thin). I want (and I guess everybody else ) the smallest device will the most features. I haven't missed much the keyboard of my Wizard since I've switched to Prophet, but it's handy nevertheless. Can someone compare the thickness of both?
3) Fast! My XDA Neo (HTC Prophet) drives me crazy sometimes with its slow CPU.
3.1) Can you compare the CPUs of both - 400Mhz vs 500 Mhz Samsung?
3.2) Can you compare the 64MB P3600i with the 128MB Kaiser?
4) Overall impression. Anyone?
if i wanted keyboard i would get kaiser
if not i would get polaris not 3600i
Rudegar said:
if i wanted keyboard i would get kaiser
if not i would get polaris not 3600i
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Have you tried the navigation with the scrolling wheel? It's just awful No way I can prefer the wheel over the D-Pad..
ingenious said:
Have you tried the navigation with the scrolling wheel? It's just awful No way I can prefer the wheel over the D-Pad..
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I agree with Rudegar's choice. Only thing needs to be mentioned: Polaris seem to be VGA 3.5" screen so it might be to big for your expectation.
I have a HTC universal and as it is to heavy for some occasions I just last week bought a HTC Hermes .
After 2 days usage I given it to my wife. it is good as a phone but when it comes to PDA it is to small.
My opinion! HTC has really missed to produce and improve such devices like the HTC Himalaya (3.5" screen)
Damn I would love to have the Polaris with keyboard.
Similar specs, with few differences with pros and cons, BUT whats your choice and why?
I like kaiser. Elegant, bit bulky but decent. Excellent keyboard and tilt screen just look very sexy in your hand or on the table. I have installed HTC Cube and new HTC Album, so it is working as Touch. Not sure if there is anyhting which I want and exists in polaris but not in TyTn II.
POLARIS or KAISER .....
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Not sure if there is anyhting which I want and exists in polaris but not in TyTn II.
POLARIS or KAISER .....
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Yeah...kaiser has everything more than Polaris...even the size...
Am also torn between the two I sold my Kaiser last weekend abroad and wanting to buy a replacement. The long wait for polaris may even send me into the iMate ultimate den
The decision is very easy. If you need a keyboard as your typing the whole day, go for the kaiser. If you need something light and handy get the cruise. The 200g weight of the Kaiser is no joke, you feel it pulling in every pocket. Just try to carry around two 100g bars of chocolate the whole day. 50g less with the Polaris is a tremendous difference. I gave back my Kaiser because of this.
Polaris, because of the sunlight readable screen.
(But subject to seeing the actual device first!)
Dear Santa,
I would like one of each please!!
Polaris all the Life!
size first of all! amazing!
better LCD display!
I like so much the central weel.
all the rest is FUFFA! (for me obviously)
Bye
Kaiser has a keyboard that can also tilt...that is fragile!!! I can't imagine with all the vibration of the car while the tytn2 is attached to the car consolle.
Go for Polaris of course.
Polaris is my choice.....
- best case
- hardest display
- better design
- compact size
Polaris. Better screen than Kaiser, I think, without the weight, bulk and the 'formal' look.
Apart that Kaiser is ugly, big, thick and heavy everything seems to be ok. Not a match for polaris but ofcourse I don’t need or want a keyboard
Each year has his own dilemma:
Wizard / Prophet
TyTn / Trinity
Kaiser / Polaris
What will be the next?
Over the last years I never owned a device with a keyboard and I don't need a keyboard on my 'phone' either.
So my choice was easy, Polaris! I also happen to like the looks more and the fact it's less bulky is also a major pro in my eyes.
On the other hand the Kaiser is a very nice device and I guess if you need to do a lot of typing on the device that one would have a major advantage because of the keyboard.
Just the way you look at it, the lack of keyboard is very important to me in a positive way. For others it's very important in a negative way. (negative as in: not in favour of Polaris).
video problems??
Does anyone know if the polaris has the same lack of drivers that cripples the kaisers video playback?
I'm also stuck between the 2, currently have hermes + love it
I'm a current Artemis user and the wheel is a godsend!! I would definitely go for the Polaris (and pass the Artemis to my wife.. hehe)
Also, I don't need a keyboard and I kinda like the idea of flushed screen.
Most users should be able to decide between the 2 depending on their keyboard requirement..
Anyways, why so some of ya say the Polaris has a better screen? Can elaborate?
Thanks
binners said:
Does anyone know if the polaris has the same lack of drivers that cripples the kaisers video playback?
I'm also stuck between the 2, currently have hermes + love it
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I am not sure if it is lack of drivers problem but there will be no difference in this issue bettwen Polaris kai Kaiser.
pretty sure i read somewhere that the polaris has different hardware that makes the touchflo stuff work better on it. but im not 100%
MasK said:
Also, I don't need a keyboard and I kinda like the idea of flushed screen.
Most users should be able to decide between the 2 depending on their keyboard requirement..
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...and FM Radio.
MasK said:
Anyways, why so some of ya say the Polaris has a better screen? Can elaborate?
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The Polaris screen will be the same as Touch. Compare the screen between Touch and Kaiser and you will figure out the answer by yourself!
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pretty sure i read somewhere that the polaris has different hardware that makes the touchflo stuff work better on it. but im not 100%
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The hardware is the same. The software is different (because it is a touch PPC). TouchFlo and Cube will work better because of the different screen, not the hardware inside tha device.
I too have heard the screen is different for the Touch/Cruise. How is it different? Can some ellaborate on the technical details and how they traslate to making the TouchFlo work better?
After using the TouchFlo features on the Kaiser/Tilt, I am not impressed. Quirky to the point that it is not even usable. I find it to be a novelty at best and too prone to swipes being "interpreted" as taps.
So how does the Cruise improve on this?
So my HTC Wizard is getting a little old. And it's poor old CPU isn't standing up to Windows Mobile 6 ROM's very well. And it doesn't support anyhting past EDGE. And I'm thinking it's time for an upgrade. And my sweet BT SouthWing headset sucks on my HTC as soon as I do more than one thing. At the same time, my camera is busted. My girlfriend has a 6 megapixel camera we use for anything important, but I want a decent camera that's always on me.
I think I see a chance to combine some electronics. I'm looking for a beasty WM 6 based PDA. The current PDA I'm most interested in is the HTC Advantage X7510.
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=474
GSM w / solid band support
3.1 MP camera w / flash
BT 2.0
624 Mhz CPU AND ATI gfx chip (<3 cell phone emulators)
16 gig internal flash for my tunes
detachable keyboard
FULL QWERTY KEYBOARD = WIN
Surprisingly sexy for a powerful PDA with a keyboard
This looks like the best one I've found overall. I've heard that HTC has been pretty lousy on implementing the ATI GFX chips, but as far as I can tell that's only on the TyTn II's. It's a little more than I want to spend on a phone, but if it gets the camera in there too then it's sold.
I'm pretty much sold on this guy, only holdup is the cost. I really haven't seen anything that can compete with it, although I found a lot of new companies today poking about. Anybody know of any brands I should look at, or have anything negative to say about this guy?
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So my HTC Wizard is getting a little old. And it's poor old CPU isn't standing up to Windows Mobile 6 ROM's very well. And it doesn't support anyhting past EDGE. And I'm thinking it's time for an upgrade. And my sweet BT SouthWing headset sucks on my HTC as soon as I do more than one thing. At the same time, my camera is busted. My girlfriend has a 6 megapixel camera we use for anything important, but I want a decent camera that's always on me.
I think I see a chance to combine some electronics. I'm looking for a beasty WM 6 based PDA. The current PDA I'm most interested in is the HTC Advantage X7510.
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=474
GSM w / solid band support
3.1 MP camera w / flash
BT 2.0
624 Mhz CPU AND ATI gfx chip (<3 cell phone emulators)
16 gig internal flash for my tunes
detachable keyboard
FULL QWERTY KEYBOARD = WIN
Surprisingly sexy for a powerful PDA with a keyboard
This looks like the best one I've found overall. I've heard that HTC has been pretty lousy on implementing the ATI GFX chips, but as far as I can tell that's only on the TyTn II's. It's a little more than I want to spend on a phone, but if it gets the camera in there too then it's sold.
I'm pretty much sold on this guy, only holdup is the cost. I really haven't seen anything that can compete with it, although I found a lot of new companies today poking about. Anybody know of any brands I should look at, or have anything negative to say about this guy?
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well if you really want the x7510 then you should buy an x7500 and put ap4 on there. than its like having the best of both worlds plus you get all the buttons that you dont get with the 7510
7510 is a good choice only if you intend to use it notebook style. If you use it tablet style, then 7500 or 7501 are better. 7510 does not have the a few of the hardware buttons that the older models have, and this is extremely limiting for table style users. Many users find it more convenient, more portable, and easier when using it table style.
BTW, 7500 and 7501 are lighter and cheaper too. The only drawback is the microdrive instead of SSD, but not a serious drawback. Capacity itself is not an issue for most of us, I believe. I only use about 1 GB out of the 8GB with all my programs installed there. All my large consuming files are on microSDHC, which can be swapped in and out at will so there is no practical limit on the effective capacity. Microdrive is a lot faster than microSDHC, although it consumes more power.
The answer is also in the new product cathegories from HTC marketing department ( www.htc.com ) :
They have :
TOUCH phones (From TOUCH to DIAMOND)
PDA phones (From P3300 to TyTN II)
Smartphones (From S310 to S730)
Mobile Computers (Advantage>Shift)
The strategy seems clear: WHAT DO YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ? :
Trendy and WOW effect PDA PHONE? (Play device with phone?) TOUCH product Line
A Powerfull Companion in your PHONE? (Biz device with phone?) PDA Phones Product Line
Lightweight but powerfull PHONE? (Phone for yor Digital Lifestyle?) Smartphones product line
Mobile computing (Mobile PC always on with SOME phone capabilities?) Mobile Computers product line
I agree with you we would like to have them ALL in a single device but....
I have PDA, SMartphone and Mobile computer, and I fully agree with this scenario. A clear idea (or a good help) and you will be really happy of the chosen device. Chose the wrong category for your purpose and you will sell it in few weeks (losing money )
HTC is out from a dark age now, time to buy stock quotes IMHO!
I'd go for an X7500 unless you can get a 7510 susidised. I use about 6Gb of my Microdrive and about 3Gb on my card but you can always expand with bigger cards.
Good luck!
[Edit]Just seen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391485 - might be of interest?[/Edit]
Interesting comments, really appreciate the feedback. So, a few things.
1. I haven't really found a good comparison or general video yet of any of the advantage models. I'll keep the keyboard difference in mind. As for the keyboard usage, how is it for texting? I've been pretty happy with the keyboard on my Wizard, but I'm open to something new. I just refuse to go back to not having a QWERTY keyboard. I'd buy the Diamond, but HTC doesn't get how awesome QWERTY texting is appearantly.
2. Looking at the Advantage, I don't see any buttons on it that would be especially good for gaming, especially anything like the pad on a Wizard / TyTn II. Am I missing something, or can I expect to have my PocketNesterness hampered by an Advantage?
3. Thanks for the info on the 7500/1 vs 7510. Looking at the specs page, I noticed the 7500 lists two cameras while the 7501 only has one. Is this the case? I'd just be giving up the VGA camera for voice calls, which I've never used anyways, but I guess it could be nice if I get to an area with better than EDGE service. Also, is the X7510's camera much / any better?
4. I've done a good bit of flashing / light bit of cooking with my Wizard. About how much harder is an advantage to reflash?
5. 8 gigs would be a considerable upgrade for me, I've been getting by on a 4 gig MiniSD that my Wizard only picks up about 3.7 gig of. Assuming I used a gig internally for pics, GPS, etc, I'd still have twice the capacity on HD alone vs my card.
Glad to get some input, got ignored at HowardForums.
Hmm... actually, saw some better pics of the Advantage. There is clearly no "D-Pad" like the PDA-style phones get. LAME.
Back to the drawing board. Kaiser's in the lead, AT&T owes me a discount phone since I bought my own hardware to the table. Too bad it doesn't have a flash.
http://www.imate.com/support/specs/SpecSheet_9502.pdf
Ooooooh... Do Want!
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Interesting comments, really appreciate the feedback. So, a few things.
1. ... how is it for texting? ...
2. ... can I expect to have my PocketNesterness hampered by an Advantage?
3. ... the 7500 lists two cameras while the 7501 only has one. Is this the case? Also, is the X7510's camera much / any better?...
4. ...About how much harder is an advantage to reflash?...
5. ...8 gigs ...
....got ignored at HowardForums.
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We play soccer here, 2-1 is the score, and the winners are ...HERMES-KAISER!
1) ATHENA's kb haven't any backlight, hard to use without a stable surface. Big screen means BIG on screen Kb too, but for texting ATHENA Kb isn't really good in standing situation, in the car, on the bus.... WORST comparing it with the HERMES or KAISER
2) Many games aren't usable in a VGA device. I don't know about emulators but less buttons mean less control! WORST comparing it with the HERMES or KAISER
3) Yes, it is. No, don't.
4) Just the same complexity and risks as Kaiser or Hermes
5) Yes, but are built IN. I prefer to have DATA on SD, to manage with the PC utilities, to share data with friends... but, yes BETTER than HERMES or KAISER
HOFO?
Believe me: for a "texter" and "gamer" ATHENA is a nightmare!
Yeah, that's what I'm seeing so far. I might settle on a Kaiser, looks like those are pretty well hacked, and I can get one for like $100 refurb'd through AT&T. I'm gonna see if I can scrounge up a deal on that I-Mate tho, no flash on the camera has repeatedly pissed me off with my Wizard.
On a different note, how is WM6 on a 400 Mhz processor? I'm using a Wizard OC'd to 216Mhz on a custom WM6 rom, and alot of stuff is SLOOOOW. Granted, even a Kaiser would more than double my phone power, but just curious.
Hey guys, I think it's getting obvious the Athena isn't for me. I'm gonna head over to the Kaiser forum and see what I can see. Thanks for the help.
Hi all,
Looks like HTC has finally made something almost good enough to replace the aging Uni.
The screen isn't quite big enough for my liking, but the rest of the specs are enough to tempt me into retiring my beloved Universal.
http://www.htc.com/europe/product.aspx
As soon as they are on sale, I shall be leaving the Universal forum.
I'd like to say thanks to everyone here for your support and help.
I will not be releasing any more Roms or packages for the Universal, as my new device would certainly arrive before I had any free time from work to start any more Dev work.
It has been a pleasure being part of this community, I have made many wonderful friends here
Cheers,
Beasty
I think there is going to be a mass exodus from the Universal as soon as the Touch Pro is out - its the only thing that comes even close to our ancient (but awesome) devices.
+1 for switching to the Touch Pro...
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I think there is going to be a mass exodus from the Universal as soon as the Touch Pro is out - its the only thing that comes even close to our ancient (but awesome) devices.
+1 for switching to the Touch Pro...
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TehPenguin said:
I think there is going to be a mass exodus from the Universal as soon as the Touch Pro is out - its the only thing that comes even close to our ancient (but awesome) devices.
+1 for switching to the Touch Pro...
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Does that mean you would consider joining me mate?
It would be nice to have a familiar face, a friend and tester and host for the new roms!
Yes only 2.8 screen, but I can live with that (hopefully)
Cheers,
Beasty
Thanx for the hard ROM work man .
Too bad the Touch Pro does not have a TILT screen, then I would buy it...
Eelco
Good luck with your new device but for me, the Uni is still the best, I don't think to change it
Touch pro is probably what I'll get.
My contract ended a while ago but there's nothing to replace the Uni without sacrificing too much.
Nokia E71.
Blackberry Bold (9000)
and the Touch Pro are my 3 possibles at the moment.
Touch pro looks good, and with 256mb RAM massively beats the Uni in that respect.
Smaller screen leads to smaller, more pocketable device I guess...
Keyboard looks nice.
And coming to Europe fairly soon, which is nice too
markymanxxx said:
Touch pro is probably what I'll get.
My contract ended a while ago but there's nothing to replace the Uni without sacrificing too much.
Nokia E71.
Blackberry Bold (9000)
and the Touch Pro are my 3 possibles at the moment.
Touch pro looks good, and with 256mb RAM massively beats the Uni in that respect.
Smaller screen leads to smaller, more pocketable device I guess...
Keyboard looks nice.
And coming to Europe fairly soon, which is nice too
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The Uni also works with 256 ram (memory chips from notebook)
Win_XP said:
Good luck with your new device but for me, the Uni is still the best, I don't think to change it
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I agree with u. This is a replacement for Kaiser, touch dual, tytn, wizard, but not Uni.
No clamhell and small screen, but has the missed 5th row in the keyboard and the VGA screen. still there is no device has beaten Uni. In my opinion the replacement must has:
-Clamshell
- 3.5" VGA
-Full Qwerty with separate row for numbers
- The other stuffs that are missed in Uni. i.e. Camera (auto focuss and 3 mega) and GPS.
I don't think that HTC will release such a device as it will decrease their profits from other devices.
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The Uni also works with 256 ram (memory chips from notebook)
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Ok then, without the need for such hackery!!!
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Another perk of a newer HTC device would be HTC support (i.e. the Dll's to allow video call in cooked WM6+ ROMs and suchlike).
256mb RAM is such a nice prospect... Not having to close Netfront 3.5 just to listen to an MP3!!!
markymanxxx said:
Ok then, without the need for such hackery!!!
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Another perk of a newer HTC device would be HTC support (i.e. the Dll's to allow video call in cooked WM6+ ROMs and suchlike).
256mb RAM is such a nice prospect... Not having to close Netfront 3.5 just to listen to an MP3!!!
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There is no need to close NF to listen an MP3 with 128 ram Uni The only thing that grabs me in Touch Pro is TV-out option
Win_XP said:
Good luck with your new device but for me, the Uni is still the best, I don't think to change it
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I agree nothing can replace the pure functionality of the Uni............. but I think this will be the closest device yet for a long time to come.
Devices are unfortunately getting smaller.
You could allways rip the mainboard out the touch pro and drop it on your Uni............ you would loose the touchflo 3d, but should be able to retain the other great feautres and still have the large screen, cant imagine a keyboard port would be too hard, and the uni probably has enough space left over for two touch pro batteries.
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You could allways rip the mainboard out the touch pro and drop it on your Uni............ you would loose the touchflo 3d, but should be able to retain the other great feautres and still have the large screen, cant imagine a keyboard port would be too hard, and the uni probably has enough space left over for two touch pro batteries.
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That's a good idea btw, here i'm agree with you
beast0898 said:
I agree nothing can replace the pure functionality of the Uni............. but I think this will be the closest device yet for a long time to come.
Devices are unfortunately getting smaller.
You could allways rip the mainboard out the touch pro and drop it on your Uni............ you would loose the touchflo 3d, but should be able to retain the other great feautres and still have the large screen, cant imagine a keyboard port would be too hard, and the uni probably has enough space left over for two touch pro batteries.
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I think you need to check the Sony Ericsson Xperia before being conclusive on the raphael...the SE has an 800x480 screen with almost similar features...
But yea, as of now, my love is for the raphael...touch pro i mean....
It would have been really cool if there was an upgrade to our unis with the same form factor being maintained, of course with a second external display...
cheers & thanks sooo much for all your contributions for our universals!
San
Xperia's resolution is good, there is no doubt, but with that 800 pixels alot of games and software may be won't work
Win_XP said:
Xperia's resolution is good, there is no doubt, but with that 800 pixels alot of games and software may be won't work
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Yeah, I'm not too sure about the widescreen.
Plus the keyboard of the Xperia doesn't look to great to use...
Touch pro all the way - I'm guessing HTC thinks that Touch pro dimensions are the limit to what most users want - and that the market for devices like the Uni is being eaten from above by sub-notebooks like the Eee PC.
Of course, the Eee is much bigger, but is a rival to the Uni for people who need something more capable than a smartphone, and smaller than a laptop.
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Yeah, I'm not too sure about the widescreen.
Plus the keyboard of the Xperia doesn't look to great to use...
Touch pro all the way - I'm guessing HTC thinks that Touch pro dimensions are the limit to what most users want - and that the market for devices like the Uni is being eaten from above by sub-notebooks like the Eee PC.
Of course, the Eee is much bigger, but is a rival to the Uni for people who need something more capable than a smartphone, and smaller than a laptop.
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The Eee is not bad, i have one at work, but it is twice the size of the Uni, and to be honest it isnt much more functional, the 7" screen sucks for working on continuously (at least for my poor eyes) it's a great package for kids, but not much room for it in a corporate market for full time use, and there is no way I can get it in my back pocket.
When my Touch Pro arrives, I may look at porting the mobo over to the Uni shell, if I do and succeed without too much fuss, I'll post in the Uni Wiki.
If I don't / can't and despair with it's little screen, I'll be back developing for the Uni.
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When my Touch Pro arrives, I may look at porting the mobo over to the Uni shell, if I do and succeed without too much fuss, I'll post in the Uni Wiki.
If I don't / can't and despair with it's little screen, I'll be back developing for the Uni.
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You are the man
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Does that mean you would consider joining me mate?
It would be nice to have a familiar face, a friend and tester and host for the new roms!
Yes only 2.8 screen, but I can live with that (hopefully)
Cheers,
Beasty
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I won't be the only one
From memory there were a few gurus on the IRC channel talking about the Raphael near the middle of last year - I suspect that there is going to be *a lot* of people working on it...
@Beasty: So.... You going to lead the Raphael Project....?
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I won't be the only one
From memory there were a few gurus on the IRC channel talking about the Raphael near the middle of last year - I suspect that there is going to be *a lot* of people working on it...
@Beasty: So.... You going to lead the Raphael Project....?
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I doubt that mate, I won't have enough time to dedicate to it, we are still planning on emigrating to Florida end of this year earlt next year, and to be honest I don't think I have the experience to lead a project like that.
Hopefully there will be some familiar faces of old on the Raphael, Mamaich, Midget, Ivan, Jason maybe even Helmi might be tempted by it.......... we can but hope to see some of the gods of the XDA Devs forum return, maybe I can even tempt Leo away from his beloved (tiny) Kaiser........ I'll have words with him when he's back from his hols in Slovakia.
Hello, I'm due an upgrade on Orange very soon, and I'm basically going to go either for a TytnII or a Touch Diamond, but I'm wondering which one is for me.
I've been browsing the Diamond forums a lot recently, and following Tytns progress, and working in a phone shop I've been lucky enough to play with both, albeit briefly.
For me, I'm going to be using data a lot, probably going to want to use Messenger etc.
Whats the QVGA vs VGA argument like? Because I've noticed the Diamonds screen real estate is pretty poor, compared to the Diamond.
I have no reason to use TouchFlo because I'd much rather use SPB Mobile Shell
Whats the cooked ROM situation for Diamond? Mature I am guessing? Processing power vs. Diamond?
I'm just looking for a well thought through comparison, really
Thanks in advance
not even in the same class .... does the tittan have a tv out port??? diamond has one.... so what do u think ... like i said $>not even in the same class<$
what about tytn 3 vs diamond???