Hi all,
Looks like HTC has finally made something almost good enough to replace the aging Uni.
The screen isn't quite big enough for my liking, but the rest of the specs are enough to tempt me into retiring my beloved Universal.
http://www.htc.com/europe/product.aspx
As soon as they are on sale, I shall be leaving the Universal forum.
I'd like to say thanks to everyone here for your support and help.
I will not be releasing any more Roms or packages for the Universal, as my new device would certainly arrive before I had any free time from work to start any more Dev work.
It has been a pleasure being part of this community, I have made many wonderful friends here
Cheers,
Beasty
I think there is going to be a mass exodus from the Universal as soon as the Touch Pro is out - its the only thing that comes even close to our ancient (but awesome) devices.
+1 for switching to the Touch Pro...
TehPenguin said:
I think there is going to be a mass exodus from the Universal as soon as the Touch Pro is out - its the only thing that comes even close to our ancient (but awesome) devices.
+1 for switching to the Touch Pro...
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But unfortunately only 2,8" screen
TehPenguin said:
I think there is going to be a mass exodus from the Universal as soon as the Touch Pro is out - its the only thing that comes even close to our ancient (but awesome) devices.
+1 for switching to the Touch Pro...
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Does that mean you would consider joining me mate?
It would be nice to have a familiar face, a friend and tester and host for the new roms!
Yes only 2.8 screen, but I can live with that (hopefully)
Cheers,
Beasty
Thanx for the hard ROM work man .
Too bad the Touch Pro does not have a TILT screen, then I would buy it...
Eelco
Good luck with your new device but for me, the Uni is still the best, I don't think to change it
Touch pro is probably what I'll get.
My contract ended a while ago but there's nothing to replace the Uni without sacrificing too much.
Nokia E71.
Blackberry Bold (9000)
and the Touch Pro are my 3 possibles at the moment.
Touch pro looks good, and with 256mb RAM massively beats the Uni in that respect.
Smaller screen leads to smaller, more pocketable device I guess...
Keyboard looks nice.
And coming to Europe fairly soon, which is nice too
markymanxxx said:
Touch pro is probably what I'll get.
My contract ended a while ago but there's nothing to replace the Uni without sacrificing too much.
Nokia E71.
Blackberry Bold (9000)
and the Touch Pro are my 3 possibles at the moment.
Touch pro looks good, and with 256mb RAM massively beats the Uni in that respect.
Smaller screen leads to smaller, more pocketable device I guess...
Keyboard looks nice.
And coming to Europe fairly soon, which is nice too
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The Uni also works with 256 ram (memory chips from notebook)
Win_XP said:
Good luck with your new device but for me, the Uni is still the best, I don't think to change it
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I agree with u. This is a replacement for Kaiser, touch dual, tytn, wizard, but not Uni.
No clamhell and small screen, but has the missed 5th row in the keyboard and the VGA screen. still there is no device has beaten Uni. In my opinion the replacement must has:
-Clamshell
- 3.5" VGA
-Full Qwerty with separate row for numbers
- The other stuffs that are missed in Uni. i.e. Camera (auto focuss and 3 mega) and GPS.
I don't think that HTC will release such a device as it will decrease their profits from other devices.
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The Uni also works with 256 ram (memory chips from notebook)
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Ok then, without the need for such hackery!!!
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Another perk of a newer HTC device would be HTC support (i.e. the Dll's to allow video call in cooked WM6+ ROMs and suchlike).
256mb RAM is such a nice prospect... Not having to close Netfront 3.5 just to listen to an MP3!!!
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Ok then, without the need for such hackery!!!
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Another perk of a newer HTC device would be HTC support (i.e. the Dll's to allow video call in cooked WM6+ ROMs and suchlike).
256mb RAM is such a nice prospect... Not having to close Netfront 3.5 just to listen to an MP3!!!
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There is no need to close NF to listen an MP3 with 128 ram Uni The only thing that grabs me in Touch Pro is TV-out option
Win_XP said:
Good luck with your new device but for me, the Uni is still the best, I don't think to change it
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I agree nothing can replace the pure functionality of the Uni............. but I think this will be the closest device yet for a long time to come.
Devices are unfortunately getting smaller.
You could allways rip the mainboard out the touch pro and drop it on your Uni............ you would loose the touchflo 3d, but should be able to retain the other great feautres and still have the large screen, cant imagine a keyboard port would be too hard, and the uni probably has enough space left over for two touch pro batteries.
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You could allways rip the mainboard out the touch pro and drop it on your Uni............ you would loose the touchflo 3d, but should be able to retain the other great feautres and still have the large screen, cant imagine a keyboard port would be too hard, and the uni probably has enough space left over for two touch pro batteries.
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That's a good idea btw, here i'm agree with you
beast0898 said:
I agree nothing can replace the pure functionality of the Uni............. but I think this will be the closest device yet for a long time to come.
Devices are unfortunately getting smaller.
You could allways rip the mainboard out the touch pro and drop it on your Uni............ you would loose the touchflo 3d, but should be able to retain the other great feautres and still have the large screen, cant imagine a keyboard port would be too hard, and the uni probably has enough space left over for two touch pro batteries.
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I think you need to check the Sony Ericsson Xperia before being conclusive on the raphael...the SE has an 800x480 screen with almost similar features...
But yea, as of now, my love is for the raphael...touch pro i mean....
It would have been really cool if there was an upgrade to our unis with the same form factor being maintained, of course with a second external display...
cheers & thanks sooo much for all your contributions for our universals!
San
Xperia's resolution is good, there is no doubt, but with that 800 pixels alot of games and software may be won't work
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Xperia's resolution is good, there is no doubt, but with that 800 pixels alot of games and software may be won't work
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Yeah, I'm not too sure about the widescreen.
Plus the keyboard of the Xperia doesn't look to great to use...
Touch pro all the way - I'm guessing HTC thinks that Touch pro dimensions are the limit to what most users want - and that the market for devices like the Uni is being eaten from above by sub-notebooks like the Eee PC.
Of course, the Eee is much bigger, but is a rival to the Uni for people who need something more capable than a smartphone, and smaller than a laptop.
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Yeah, I'm not too sure about the widescreen.
Plus the keyboard of the Xperia doesn't look to great to use...
Touch pro all the way - I'm guessing HTC thinks that Touch pro dimensions are the limit to what most users want - and that the market for devices like the Uni is being eaten from above by sub-notebooks like the Eee PC.
Of course, the Eee is much bigger, but is a rival to the Uni for people who need something more capable than a smartphone, and smaller than a laptop.
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The Eee is not bad, i have one at work, but it is twice the size of the Uni, and to be honest it isnt much more functional, the 7" screen sucks for working on continuously (at least for my poor eyes) it's a great package for kids, but not much room for it in a corporate market for full time use, and there is no way I can get it in my back pocket.
When my Touch Pro arrives, I may look at porting the mobo over to the Uni shell, if I do and succeed without too much fuss, I'll post in the Uni Wiki.
If I don't / can't and despair with it's little screen, I'll be back developing for the Uni.
beast0898 said:
When my Touch Pro arrives, I may look at porting the mobo over to the Uni shell, if I do and succeed without too much fuss, I'll post in the Uni Wiki.
If I don't / can't and despair with it's little screen, I'll be back developing for the Uni.
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You are the man
beast0898 said:
Does that mean you would consider joining me mate?
It would be nice to have a familiar face, a friend and tester and host for the new roms!
Yes only 2.8 screen, but I can live with that (hopefully)
Cheers,
Beasty
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I won't be the only one
From memory there were a few gurus on the IRC channel talking about the Raphael near the middle of last year - I suspect that there is going to be *a lot* of people working on it...
@Beasty: So.... You going to lead the Raphael Project....?
TehPenguin said:
I won't be the only one
From memory there were a few gurus on the IRC channel talking about the Raphael near the middle of last year - I suspect that there is going to be *a lot* of people working on it...
@Beasty: So.... You going to lead the Raphael Project....?
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I doubt that mate, I won't have enough time to dedicate to it, we are still planning on emigrating to Florida end of this year earlt next year, and to be honest I don't think I have the experience to lead a project like that.
Hopefully there will be some familiar faces of old on the Raphael, Mamaich, Midget, Ivan, Jason maybe even Helmi might be tempted by it.......... we can but hope to see some of the gods of the XDA Devs forum return, maybe I can even tempt Leo away from his beloved (tiny) Kaiser........ I'll have words with him when he's back from his hols in Slovakia.
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So..HTC will (or already did) bring out a few new devices, and I just cant wait to get my hands on a Htc Kaiser. What will be your next device?
HTC TOUCH
HTC S710
HTC Kaiser
HTC Omni
I think I didnt forget one..
I say; bye bye htc tytn
Nike
or
Polaris
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/06/22/htc_s_new_device_roadmap
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Nike
or
Polaris
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/06/22/htc_s_new_device_roadmap
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ok ok..thank you, I didnt even know there were more devices..Lets keep it to these 4 devices..
Bram87 said:
ok ok..thank you, I didnt even know there were more devices..Lets keep it to these 4 devices..
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Nope you can't - They all HTC handhelds.
For me it has to be Polaris( I use Artemis already)
I am however tempted by the Omni - as the ultimate convergence handheld
ill only get the kaiser if it has the 1700mhz and 2100mhz bands that can work with tmo us 3g.
Well I had my eye on the Nike since I saw it on www.pdadb.com
Funny that their picture looks better than HTC's (it is still Photoshop).
Though now I am considering getting the Neo 1973 (I know not HTC device) and waiting with my Jamin for something better from HTC (maybe next gen OS based on CE 6)
I know the Neo is at least 3 years backwards hardware wise (no 3G / camera / WiFi) but it just sound like developers heaven.
You can even get a debug board for an extra 150$ but that kind of low level tweaking is beyond my abilities.
yeah but i think that nike pic is older then
the one in the later roadmaps so it could look
like htc changed their design
my next HTC device
maybe an HTC S730 (HTC Wings / Volans)
HTC OMNI
This is indeed a very nice device. The main problem is that the processor is really slow according to the specs.
By the way, is this device for real? I certainly don't think so. Let's all focus on the Imate 7150..
Definitely the Kaiser (the AT&T Tilt version of it)! The wait has been too long already!
I agree with the Nike or Polaris.
Also, the Juno for AT&T is coming out which is basically the VOX with 3G.
I just got myself a Touch. It's a bit of a girl's phone, but works well and is cute.
It's not a power phone, but then, it does everything I need it to, and I need it to do a lot [I wear a suit all day, and hate having my suit pocket dangle down when I'm carrying my Hermes. So the Touch is my "day" phone]
Kaiser will be fun, but there are too many new (chunky) HTCs coming out now, it's almost impossible to stay on top of all of them. But they really need to get VGA into their pocket sized phones. Anything else is just bells and whistles right now.
A Touch with VGA, GPS and a slider keyboard would be lovely.
But then again, so would conjugal visits from Winona Ryder, and that's not happening either right now.
V
greatestkelvin said:
This is indeed a very nice device. The main problem is that the processor is really slow according to the specs.
By the way, is this device for real? I certainly don't think so. Let's all focus on the Imate 7150..
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The Imate 7150 has been cancelled, the Omni looks to be a year away and will not feature a 400mhz processor but at least a 520mhz.
Personally I've been waiting for nearly 2 years for a replacement for my Universal, and the Kaiser is the one I'm going for.
To me Polaris sounds like the next one but worth waiting also for HP Ipaq 600 or 900
Burko said:
The Imate 7150 has been cancelled, the Omni looks to be a year away and will not feature a 400mhz processor but at least a 520mhz.
Personally I've been waiting for nearly 2 years for a replacement for my Universal, and the Kaiser is the one I'm going for.
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The cancellation of the Imate 7150 is rumor. You can check int the Web. Anyhow Imate7150 and HTC omni is Great Devices!(on the spec list)
However I am little concern of Imate 7150 it is the first device in such they will produce. In other hand HTC has already collected enough experiences with HTC Universal which is clearly great Device therefore I think Omni will be better choice. Well we wait to see how they come up.
Anyhow both Devices are "communicators" and sometimes size matter. Definitely vijay is right, they are not nice to carry them on your belt or in your pocket.
My dream Would be: HTC Polaris spec device ( 3.5" VGA is must) + clamshell (like by Uni) + keyboard + external small display, And All this packed in 100mm X 65mm X 18mm
Bulldog said:
The cancellation of the Imate 7150 is rumor. You can check int the Web. Anyhow Imate7150 and HTC omni is Great Devices!(on the spec list)
However I am little concern of Imate 7150 it is the first device in such they will produce. In other hand HTC has already collected enough experiences with HTC Universal which is clearly great Device therefore I think Omni will be better choice. Well we wait to see how they come up.
Anyhow both Devices are "communicators" and sometimes size matter. Definitely vijay is right, they are not nice to carry them on your belt or in your pocket.
My dream Would be: HTC Polaris spec device ( 3.5" VGA is must) + clamshell (like by Uni) + keyboard + external small display, And All this packed in 100mm X 65mm X 18mm
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The Polaris is 2.8", I have spec screen shots of it.
I just hope some of these new devices come out soon.
maevro said:
The Polaris is 2.8", I have spec screen shots of it.
I just hope some of these new devices come out soon.
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here it says 3.5" VGA http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/06/22/htc_s_new_device_roadmap
Polaris is 3.5" VGA if you're all wondering.
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Polaris is 3.5" VGA if you're all wondering.
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if the 3.5" VGA is confirmed, I am a dilemma : HTC OMNI ,HTC Kaiser, HTC polaris
I love to have keyboard but I love as well the 3.5" VGA in compact size device
polaris! even though not in the poll
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6768.html
About time somebody had the balls to step up HTC and beat them with an all in one. HTC had more than enough time to release 3G+WIF+Bluetooth+GPS+Keyboard+VGA! I guess the iphone and umpc's got them distracted on they're real priorities.
Kaiser got everything but vga
and polaris got everhing but keyboard
personaly i dont really want keyboard
that specs of M800 are pretty impressive. after being acquainted much with the Uni, now I am missing the keyboard when I am using my touch.
look forward to that M800
There is no news (or even rumour) anymore on Polaris being launched this year.
but it have been spotted
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=unveiled-htc-polaris-gps-windows-mobile-smartphone-shows-its-face
Thanks! I haven't seen this before. So we might still have a chance to see the Polaris before year end.
Rudegar said:
but it have been spotted
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=unveiled-htc-polaris-gps-windows-mobile-smartphone-shows-its-face
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Geez, vga doesnt have to mean miniature laptop...... htc seems to be making phones without anythought right now, how many are they pushing out this year alone?
well though both the polaris screensize and it's vga vs. qvga
seem to toggle with each source of info we get about it
personaly i like a big screen to read ebooks on
and vga well thats a plus too
so what does everyone think is the best Pocket PC device at the moment? Features... Memory... CPU... etc
I put Pocket PC, because i want one that will fit in my Pocket!
That's a pretty subjective question. Even if you were to name the device with the latest and greatest hardware, the software/firmware/ROM has a huge impact on the device's overall performance. Since you're obviously not a newbie here, you probably already know that. I can't tell you the best, I can only tell you my favorite: Kaiser. Even with the video issues (which should hopefully be addressed soon) it seems to be the most feature-rich device. It will soon be trumped by other devices of course, but not until at least the 2nd half of this year when they are scheduled for release.
small list
let me put a small list of the best hardware ppc on the market right now;
kaiser,asus p750,hp 614 c, each one of them has its own small negative issues.
ppc-doc
i've been looking at the Kaiser for a while, but i was under the impression it had been around for a long time... was wondering if anything had superseeded it?
Kaiser was out less than half a year ago.
Kaiser is a great device...but when you're moving from Artemis - don't expect the same long batterylife.....everything else is great imo....
I like the Prophet with wm6.1. It's fast, looks good and has a couple of features crucial to me: standard SD card support so I can swap cards with my camera etc, separate audio jack.
Since you didnt mention if you need phone(), I would go for ipaq 210+$100 phone combo
kdskamal said:
Since you didnt mention if you need phone(), I would go for ipaq 210+$100 phone combo
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lol, yeh i dnt think i could cope with two divices
I'm not worried about battery life, i usually end up charging my Artemis in the car on the way to work and on the way home, total of 2 hours lol.
Cheers for the recomendations!
sooo...
There still seems to be no answer here to this. Even with the HTC touch pro that I have my eye on. There are obviously a multitude of devices out there.. heck the exeda which I am excited and leary of.
http://www.exedamobile.com/web/
But anyone have any educated opinions of the best ppc device atm.
I love my kaiser. And of course money restricts me from moving up. but its a good thing. More time for research.
In the end. I expect to end up with a netbook with a cell adaptor.
@frankbot,
Here's a recent poll voted by the xda members:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
Touch HD
-----HD-----
Enough Said.
HTC Universal
Nothing better!!
Here a thread responding your question
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
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Touch HD
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Enough Said.
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I agree! +1
Such a matter of personal preference...
You have to ask yourself things like
how much do I value screen size
how much do I value a keyboard
do I need a dpad to do what I like to do?
do I need 3g?
am I buying unlocked?
do I need a long battery life?
Definatly the samsung epix
this phone is great just got it today, it has wifi, 2mp camera, 150 ram, micro sd slot, a huge battery, full qwerty keyboard, the first phone with a optical mouse in it, a touch screen, windows mobile 6.1, 320 x 320 pixels screen, and to top it off a very fast 624 MHz processor. best phone ive ever had
Oh my, that makes me want to do a sex wee!
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=46296
I hope we can find something useful in it for our devices.... i realy don't want to buy a new device...
Yes, on the face of it, it seems quite soon after the TC was launched but then I suppose this might take a good few months to turn up in the shops. I presume the VGA screen will mean a lot of the UI widgets won't be usable on the TC, sadly.
Lots more info/video here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC
Unless someone makes them work, but I seriously doubt that HTC will stick to the VGA line...
Yeah I don't want to have to buy another device either. It does suck that it's so soon after the Cruise was released. No microSD memory slot right? I haven't see it mentioned anywhere. 4GB internal memory might be faster but is way too limited.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389935
here they say microSD but then they also say EGPS where the htc site only say AGPS
so who is to know for sure yet...
being that it's vga it could also mean that if it have a working driver it's hardcoded to the vga res :S
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being that it's vga it could also mean that if it have a working driver it's hardcoded to the vga res :S
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We'll see about that... but until this community gets it's hands on the ROM, we'll see what has Android to offer
Watch this video and submit your comments as to the fluidity of the OS.
Typical of HTC, init?
http://techdigest.tv/2008/05/shiny_video_rev_169.html
When she was actually demoing it, there seemed to be a certain lag when she scrolled whith her finger... Could it be that the diamond also suffers from the "TouchScreen Bug"?
According to Engaget it seems that Diamond has Video acceleration. If it's already implemented by that device, surely it will be available for Touch Cruise soon
chipset is not the same!
ovidiaconescu said:
According to Engaget it seems that Diamond has Video acceleration. If it's already implemented by that device, surely it will be available for Touch Cruise soon
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While I do admire their efforts on the Diamond, I feel that the HTC product development process is just way to rushed. In the end they end up coming out with half assed devices. It seems like they make a new model every 2 months these days e.g. Touch, Touch Dual, Touch Cruise, P3470, Sedena, etc. So its no wonder they can't get any one model right.
They really need to take some notes of what Apple has been doing with the iPhone. New products have had more storage space, and they've been focusing on software updates for their current users. This way prospective buyers are happy and current owners are kept happy. HTC on the other hand delivers maybe one update to a device full of bugs its entire product lifetime in the form of an AKU. That's quite pathetic customer service esp. for devices that are nowhere near perfect from the get go.
I would buy a Diamond, or a WM7 phone, but HTC needs to start doing a better job respecting its current customers - seriously, the Kaiser ppl have been waiting practically a year now for some sort of update, and we Polaris ppl have been waiting nearly 6months. Until HTC does something about product support, my Touch Cruise and my HTC loyalty will hold me over just until the next generation iPhone comes along and the Apple SDK/Apple store has apps coming along.
I agree, they are releasing devices way too fast. They really should invest time in releasing a device that has quality design with well thought out hardware, something that can last for awhile and then release software updates to it. The iPhone comparisons though are not very accurate, since apple designed the hardware and the software and ATT has nothing to do with it (mostly). (as opposed to att needing to come out with their own ROMs for the tilt). But I see your point, where is the official WM6.1 release for example for HTC branded devices? End of March promised for some fix, it's now May and nothing, only an announcement for a new phone. Shame...
I really hate to admit it, but Apple does a good job whith their device/update probram, hell even M$ comes out with updates on a regular basis for its OS...
HTC should learn something from them... the sleek design, and user friendly interface may win the looks prize, but nothing else if it's unuseable and the support sucks...
Some people have more qualifications for PDAs then most of the personel at HTC from simple tech support, to development... and this is an open community (maybe that's why HTC tech support sucks, because we're here to sort out their mess)
Diamond pro:
WM 6.1
VGA
Diamond con:
battery capacity
no memory card slot
discutable GPS (real GPS or AGPS)
Just my opinnion, of course...
Diamond announced at O2 Germany
as I have just found out, O2 has already announced the HTC Diamond at their Online shop. At another site I found the rumor, that it will be available in June... we'll see.
http://shop2.o2online.de/nw/produkt...lesChannel=SHOP&articleId=617&categoryId=1120
Bodisson said:
Diamond pro:
WM 6.1
VGA
Diamond con:
battery capacity
no memory card slot
discutable GPS (real GPS or AGPS)
Just my opinnion, of course...
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An the biggest con only 528 Mhz for VGA.
This thing will be slow as hell.
Just look at the E-Ten GloFiish Series with a 500 Mhz cpu.
TDO
TDO said:
An the biggest con only 528 Mhz for VGA.
This thing will be slow as hell.
Just look at the E-Ten GloFiish Series with a 500 Mhz cpu.
TDO
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Ah but it makes full use of the graphics chip to handle that kind of thing.
RE
actually i think this device is pretty cool. since my tytnII ended up in the washmachine i really doubting of buying this device or another tytnII from the insuarrance money...
pros tytn:
-keyboard
-i have 2 accus by then, 2 chargers etc etc...
-memory card slot (though i got 4 gb and it seems enough)
pros diamond:
-size!!! what a beatifull size at all, lighter and thinner then a n95, iphone etc.
-vga screen
-improved chipset and 192mb ram
I just wait till the first real reviews come out and then i decide!
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Ah but it makes full use of the graphics chip to handle that kind of thing.
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It has drivers which use the videocontroller.
But this driver can only accelerate the "drawing" of the graphics and there only specific functions.
The main-cpu has still to handle 4 times the data in comparison to a qvga device.
TDO
Why wont u b getting the Touch Pro 2?
I put this in the general category because I wanted to here from all the non owners, users who are going to skip the TP2 as well as the owners who want to complain about the TP2.
I was excited about this phone but I hate to go with a device that does not have a navigation pad. I have issues daily where I tap the screen or drag the screen on my Fuze and do not get the desired result so then I make use of the dpad to do what I need to do with no further problem.
Is there a reason you are going to skip the TP2? Whats it missing for you or what have you chosen over the TP2?
the processor ! or lack of driver support there of.
Because i wanted to have a (relativley) decent camera. So I got the Acer M900 instead of which, i'm VERY happy with it.
(Oh in my experience, HTC's build quality is sh*t)
Acer does have a better camera and probably better drivers too. But when it comes o build quality I dis-agree with your fact. Acer phones usually have cheap plastic finish but HTC makes good casing almost in every phone model of theirs.. They're good at design or hire good designers IMHO.
You cannot disagree with my opinion or indeed my personal experience. You may indeed have a diferent opinion and experience but that does not mean that either of us are right or wrong.
An opinion is just that, a personal opinion.
An experience is fact but that does not mean you will suffer the same.
But, I do very much agree with your OPINION on the design, they are usualy well designed however, in my EXPERIENCE, they are built out of crap and made very poorly.
My biggest issue with the TP2 is the relatively slower processor and lack of a headphone jack. I know it's business phone and all, but still, when other touch screen phones are one-upping you in hardware...
The TD2 has the same issues, but it's cheaper, so the qualms are a bit easier to swallow. I'm gonna have to think carefully and wait and see how much AT&T charges for each.
better processor and wm 7 ... until then htc fuze for me.
I'll quote Anand here.
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The second part isn’t what Nokia should be doing on its $500+ smartphone, what is inexcusable is the fact that Nokia is not using ARM’s latest and greatest Cortex A8 on such an expensive phone. It’s the equivalent of Dell shipping a high end PC with a Core 2 Duo instead of a Core i7; after a certain price point, the i7 is just expected.
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Up until this morning, I was 100% committed to getting a HTC Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium).
This afternoon I had a play with the new Toshiba TG01.
Now I'm 50:50 on the TP2 or the TG01.
Quite a few reasons. The first is simply cost -- I don't have a cheap upgrade option currently, and it sure isn't worth the asking price without a carrier subsidy.
Lack of a 3.5mm jack is a big deal for me. While I always intend to keep a seperate PMP (I have a Zune 80 right now and might snag the HD later this year), I want my next phone to at least be a competent media player when I don't have my Zune with me. This is simply impossible without a standard headphone jack, because I won't carry an adapter with me.
The biggest reason is probably the impending release of WM7. I expect 7 to be a BIG upgrade over 6 and really a game changer for the whole WM world. I don't want to be stuck with "old" WM once 7 releases. And if 7 isn't as revolutionary as I expect/hope, I'll seriously consider jumping ship.
typo said:
... the impending release of WM7. ....
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Thanks mate, that made me cry
ZenithUK said:
Up until this morning, I was 100% committed to getting a HTC Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium).
This afternoon I had a play with the new Toshiba TG01.
Now I'm 50:50 on the TP2 or the TG01.
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It matter of decide what you prefer:
Better processor or a nice phisycal keyboard...
Personally I´ll take the keyboard
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Better processor or a...
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initialy i'd agree with you about keyboard v cpu however, you cannot compare processor Mhz across diferent manufacturers. The only test you can compare processors with (and actually indeed, entire devices) is with real world tests such as, opening a complex spreadsheet or running an emulator.
This is why all reviews run comparisons with user software running like Unreal Tournament for example or Call of Duty.
Numbers are an indicator, they are not the entire story.
Monty Burns said:
Because i wanted to have a (relativley) decent camera. So I got the Acer M900 instead of which, i'm VERY happy with it.
(Oh in my experience, HTC's build quality is sh*t)
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Thats pretty nice that the biometric pad doubles as a navigation dpad! Does that work well?
Do you have any issues with the 128 RAM? The videos i have seen show that the screen is slow and a little less responsive. Is this your experiance? Thanks
No, quite the oposite.... its very fast and nippy device, certainly the fastest i've ever owned. Yes the memory numbers are a little low however, as long as you close any apps you dont really need open your fine. I often run Igo and either the FM player or Win Media Player and don't have any issues.
Be warned though, its not a small device. Its not Universal big but, you could easily use it to defend yourself
edit: Oh yeah, and some people have already learn't to edit the partition table which If I understand this correctly, means we will be shortly getting cooked roms that change the storage ratio - could be wrong on this though.
After looking at TPII I can't WOW. Its just another pocketpc with hardly any novelty to offer, Tilt form factor is what gives it an extra look otherwise its no better than TP IMHO
Some reports say the m900 has a 2.5mm jack and some say 3.5, can u say which is true?
So is the screen responsive? Do u have to tap something more than once and does the screen somtimes fail to recognize a gesture? Sorry to ask again but i wasnt sure to which part of my post u were responding to. Im thinking of ordering the m900 in the next few days.
I cant justify to myself paying that sort of money for something that is not all that different to previous htc keyboard offerings. I dont have a problem with the processor its just I am so very bored of wm 6.whatever. If wm7 ever arrives then it will be a different story.
In the meantime I am going to give android and the Hero a go...
jamespaulritter said:
Some reports say the m900 has a 2.5mm jack and some say 3.5, can u say which is true?
So is the screen responsive? Do u have to tap something more than once and does the screen somtimes fail to recognize a gesture? Sorry to ask again but i wasnt sure to which part of my post u were responding to. Im thinking of ordering the m900 in the next few days.
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It has neither. Its a mini 5 pin usb so you need an adapter (£2 from ebay). The screen can be unresponsive at times but Acer are very aware of this and are working with us on www.4winmobile.com. We already know there is a new firmware released and are expecting it to appear on Acers website in the next week or two.
Rather than derail the thread further, it might be an idea to check out 4winmobile and go to the Acer/Eten area.
Thanks Monty