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Hi guys,
hopefully will be returning my I-Mate 9502 soon, and the only device I can imagine replacing it with is a Pro.
Are video drivers present? I read a few threads, but can't find a solid answer. Can the Pro at least play VGA video at full framerate? Can it do this through TV-out? I want to be able to play a divX video from my PC without having to convert.
Also, are there any other horiffic bugs/problems that I should know about that will stop me doing basic things?
Cheers,
Mike

I would also like to know answer for that question before purchasing touch pro. I learned from the mistake of buying kaiser without getting familiar to it's bugs before buying it.
Please someone run gxmark on your touch pro and tell me what score do you get! download gxmark here
edit. with kaiser i scored somewhere around 1550. So hopefully its at least that with touch pro.. and much better.
And please, someone with touch pro, run coreplayer benchmark and any D3D benchmark apps and keep us posted. Those numbers would tell us a lot how the device is managing. This would benefit all the users who are considering to swap their kaiser to TP.

Touchscreen Bug
Yes. I am also looking forward to touch pro. Only one thing interests me and hasn't been completely answered even in diamond forum: can anyone test if THE TOUCHSCREEN BUG from devices like tytn II still exist when playing a game that requires continuous stylus on screen (skyforce reloaded for ex, or call of duty 2). i saw some videos on youtube with a guy playing an emulator on the diamond and it was flawless. If that is the case, then I'm clear to buy this puppy.

rakdoll said:
I would also like to know answer for that question before purchasing touch pro. I learned from the mistake of buying kaiser without getting familiar to it's bugs before buying it.
Please someone run gxmark on your touch pro and tell me what score do you get! download gxmark here
edit. with kaiser i scored somewhere around 1550. So hopefully its at least that with touch pro.. and much better.
And please, someone with touch pro, run coreplayer benchmark and any D3D benchmark apps and keep us posted. Those numbers would tell us a lot how the device is managing. This would benefit all the users who are considering to swap their kaiser to TP.
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I couldn't get gxmark to work, just got a plain white screen. I'll try something else later and test the video playing if nobody else does but I'm just having dinner right now

@ukdj78
If its not an issue can you try out this http://www.glbenchmark.com/GLBenchmark_Community_Full_1_02_WM5_CM.cab , you will need to register at www.glbenchmark.com to view the results. Can you post them here please?
Can you also try running this video as well
http://www.glbenchmark.com/videos/GLBenchmarkPro_High.wmv
Thanks.

Video playing is flawless using Coreplayer, and using the TV-Out cable has absolutely no effect on performance.
I'm not a big believer in benchmarks, but out of interest I ran benchmarks Coreplayer using DirectDraw, GDI, Raw FrameBuffer and QTV Display, just to see whether "QTV display" is still much better - it isn't - they all come out at roughly 140%. So there isn't the same sort of difference that I got when using "QTV Display" on the Kaiser, but the improvement isn't needed anyway (on the Kaiser the same videos would always return benchmarks under 100% unless I used the "QTV Display").
I've tried seven different 700Mb Xvid .avi movies, and they've all work perfectly. No page tearing or stuttering using CorePlayer. Haven't tried TCPMP, but I'm sure it'd work just as well.

aksd said:
@ukdj78
If its not an issue can you try out this http://www.glbenchmark.com/GLBenchmark_Community_Full_1_02_WM5_CM.cab , you will need to register at www.glbenchmark.com to view the results. Can you post them here please?
Can you also try running this video as well
http://www.glbenchmark.com/videos/GLBenchmarkPro_High.wmv
Thanks.
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Just ran the test, but I have no idea whether the results are any good. They're attached though...

Just tried a selection of video files from my PC in Windows Media Player on the Touch Pro and here are my findings (Video file info determined with GSpot v2.7):
.WMV file: 640x480 29.96fps 1257kps Audio: 44100Hz stereo 64Kps:
It didn't cope too well with it to be honest, sound was ok but the video only appeared to have about half the framerate of what it should be.
.AVI file: DivX 5/6 Codec 640x480 29.97fps 3164kps Audio: PCM 48000Hz 1536kps
Didn't play the video at all - got sound only (probably no video codec on device)
.AVI file: XVid Codex 720x438 29.97fps 1991kps Audio: MP3 44100Hz 128kps
Didn't play video or sound - came up with the message "Windows Media Player cannot play the file."
.MP4 file: 640x480 24fps 1601kps Audio: MP4 48000Hz Unknown kps
Played perfectly - Very smooth and not noticeably different from performance on my PC
.MPG files: Touch Pro does not recognise this format, wanted to try a PAL DVD quality MPEG 2 file
Looks like MP4 is the way to go for video files then

@sub69
Thanks mate. Its not great, almost identical to the Diamond in 3D performance, maybe the Diamond is a wee bit superior.
Any luck playing the video?
Thanks once again .
@ukdj
Try COrePlayer(which is 20USD) or TPCMP, supports a lot more codecs.

I'll try TCPMP then, used that a lot on my Vario II to play flv files but I originally didn't bother to install it on the touch pro cos I knew it could handle flv files since it had a youtube player built in!

aksd said:
@sub69
Thanks mate. Its not great, almost identical to the Diamond in 3D performance, maybe the Diamond is a wee bit superior.
Any luck playing the video?
Thanks once again .
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I should declare that I had a few things minimised in the background (ActiveSync, Calendar, Messaging, File Explorer) and push mail was running, so it wasn't exactly a scientific test and I'm sure I could get marginally better results if I could be bothered!
We would expect it to be pretty much identical to the Diamond anyway, wouldn't we?
Video is very jerky if you just try to play it in CorePlayer, but if you run a CorePlayer benchmark on it, it's as smooth as you like. Odd. Much better in WMP, but still jerky.

@sub69 I'm having a little issue with text message notifications, could you do me a quick favour and try this on your touch pro: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418089 If you want me to send you a text message to try it out Private message me with your mobile number and I'll send the word "test" to you!

The processor scores maybe higher although I doubt having minimized apps would have affected the 3D benchmarks. Since a lot of folks have mentioned that TF3D is smoother on the Pro than on the Diamond wondered if it was some changes to the 3D acceleration or better s/w optimisation of TF3D.
Did you try to play the video using QTv? Any benchmark values for the video from Coreplayer? btw, that video plays on the Kaiser at about 9-10fps.
Thanks again .

(just wanted to say this) You guys are the best! So much needed info about this, keep on going!

aksd said:
@ukdj
Try COrePlayer(which is 20USD) or TPCMP, supports a lot more codecs.
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Don't really wanna pay $20 for testing purposes, sorry and TCPMP doesn't work either - another of the many programs I've found which don't seem to like VGA screens I'm using version 0.72RC1 is there a newer one which might work or is this the latest?
EDIT: just found another cab file for TCPMP on the Athena forum which has a different file name to mine, will give that a try!
2nd EDIT lol: No, that was no good either - it wouldn't even install!

You could try the TCPMP which was rebuilt using VS2008 (its in the dev and hacking forum i think)??
gimme a sec i'll get the URL...
EDIT: Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
youve probably already tried it but if not, do
EDIT 2: Im getting my Touch Pro soon after i get back from vacation (a week or so) so i will encode some vids into VGA and see how they perform, ive found coreplayer to be great so far with my Hermes so will have a straight comparison using the same files benchmarked both in QVGA and VGA versions on both devices.
Might be worth stating what kinda of formats people are using aswell (XVid/DivX, H261 etc....)

Try the one in this post, this is working on the diamond so high probability it will work on the touch pro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2061081&postcount=1
Cab at the bottom.

mrvanx said:
You could try the TCPMP which was rebuilt using VS2008 (its in the dev and hacking forum i think)??
gimme a sec i'll get the URL...
EDIT: Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
youve probably already tried it but if not, do
EDIT 2: Im getting my Touch Pro soon after i get back from vacation (a week or so) so i will encode some vids into VGA and see how they perform, ive found coreplayer to be great so far with my Hermes so will have a straight comparison using the same files benchmarked both in QVGA and VGA versions on both devices.
Might be worth stating what kinda of formats people are using aswell (XVid/DivX, H261 etc....)
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Thanks,
I found changing the "Normal buffer size" to about 8000 kb improves video playback dramatically of an XVid file. This video was designed for the Tilt however with a 320x240 video size. I'll have to wait and see how it plays something at 640x480.

aksd said:
The processor scores maybe higher although I doubt having minimized apps would have affected the 3D benchmarks. Since a lot of folks have mentioned that TF3D is smoother on the Pro than on the Diamond wondered if it was some changes to the 3D acceleration or better s/w optimisation of TF3D.
Did you try to play the video using QTv? Any benchmark values for the video from Coreplayer? btw, that video plays on the Kaiser at about 9-10fps.
Thanks again .
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I guess that the smoother TF3D on the Raphael will be because it's a later build (later than any I ever saw in my Diamond ROM's, anyway).
Didn't get a percentage value for that video...I guess that because of the filetype, CorePlayer "benchmarks" it differently? CorePlayer just told me the bitrate and properties of that high-def file when I ran it's benchmark to the end. Again, QTV, DirectDraw, RawFrameBuffer, and GDI all looked pretty much identical to my untrained eye, but this time I didn't have percentage values to confirm that...

Can i play a 700MB 640x480 X-Vid (or wmv,...) file on a touch pro with coreplayer smoothly? or even a 2x700MB movie? (-->means double bitrate)
Sorry if the question is stupid, but i always read no concrete answer. (means YES or NO)
greetings
empi

Question for a Fuze/Rapheal user about vid playback

I did some digging on this subject, couldn't really find a definite answer on the subject. I currently own a tilt, and am considering purchasing a fuze, since with the announcement of the tilt 2, they are dropping in price. But my concern is power! You might know, that the Tilt has some video driver issues, as in can't play h.264/mp4's too well, i.e. any video podcasts i download. I'm also hoping to get emulators running smoothly with sound, but thats not too important. So my question is this, is this issue resolved on the Fuze? I noticed a thread stickied discussing touch pro performance, but nothing really says "it's fixed". Saw a few posts saying the drivers are still crap though. Thanks for any help! (and sorry if it's already posted, and i just couldn't find it)

Fixed - no!
Watchable - yes, depending on the files you're starting with of course.
Being VGA (tilt is qvga) everything on the screen looks much better and coreplayer does make most things play quite well.

Basically I have found that you can play any format video on this device very smoothly, AS LONG as it doesnt use the dolby AC3 Codec for audio as coreplayer wont play this and you need to revert to the older, non hardware supporting TCMP. Luckily this means about 5% of my media

im hsving problems with the coreplayer key

HTC Album/full screen player plays .mp4's pretty well. Unfortunately, it has a sucky UI (rather, it doesn't have an interface).

you can use newer version of full screen player and htc album which have better interface controls. i would still spring for core player. plays my divx videos perfectly, full visual framerate and matching audio. much better than divxplayer.

Thanks for the replies you guys! So, just to clarify, if I bought a fuze, and downloaded any random video podcast, which is usually mp4, 640x480, I wouldn't be disappointed?

[ReQ][APP] Core Player

Divx Mobile player sucks.... and tcp player doesnt show videos correctly. ( .avi ) mostly....
and is core player a free player ? or something u have to buy

cellgm said:
Divx Mobile player sucks.... and tcp player doesnt show videos correctly. ( .avi ) mostly....
and is core player a free player ? or something u have to buy
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endeed you have to buy it. It's not that expensive, but really efficient

CorePlayer costs $30.

What bugs me is that there is a Snapdragon accelerated version on the TG01, why the heck can't I have the option to buy that one? Apparently there is an update on the way, so I guess as a paid up customer I'll get the upgrade free,but still...

NZtechfreak said:
What bugs me is that there is a Snapdragon accelerated version on the TG01, why the heck can't I have the option to buy that one? Apparently there is an update on the way, so I guess as a paid up customer I'll get the upgrade free,but still...
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wuts wrong with Tcp and the 1.66 roms? the video shows weirdly.
divx mobile cant load frames fast enough for a family guy eposiode.

core player works great on htc hd2
looks great on htc hd2 small and full screen movie
if you have problem with coreplayer and you have sound but no picture set in tools,preferences,select pages,video output set on directdraw and problem its gone now you have picture and sound
have fun...

Headset used with Coreplayer
Hello ... is there any way to set the headset included with the HD2 to function with Coreplayer ? I mean, to use the move forward and move back key of the headset to go next and previous songs ...

cellgm said:
wuts wrong with Tcp and the 1.66 roms? the video shows weirdly.
divx mobile cant load frames fast enough for a family guy eposiode.
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coreplayer works fine for me on 1.66
just played an ep of scrubs

Yep, even though its not hardware accelerated it works fine for me also, occasionally choppy for a few secs here and there, thats what I think could be better with the accelerated version.

Sorry noob here. Which version of coreplayer should I get for HD2? I don't want to end up paying for the incorrect version.

thesatch22 said:
endeed you have to buy it. It's not that expensive, but really efficient
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LOL...not that expensive? 30$ is way too expensive...
just take TCPMP...doesn't look as nice but does basicly the same FOR FREE

NZtechfreak said:
What bugs me is that there is a Snapdragon accelerated version on the TG01, why the heck can't I have the option to buy that one? Apparently there is an update on the way, so I guess as a paid up customer I'll get the upgrade free,but still...
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To use hardware acceleration requires use of Qualcomm intellectual property, which Qualcomm guards jealously. The writers of CorePlayer have not purchased the rights to use this IP. Toshiba have; they hired the CorePlayer guys to make them a special version of Coreplayer for the TG01. If the CorePlayer guys were to distribute that they would get sued by Qualcomm, and possibly also by Toshiba.

alejo1575 said:
Hello ... is there any way to set the headset included with the HD2 to function with Coreplayer ? I mean, to use the move forward and move back key of the headset to go next and previous songs ...
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Well I don't know whether you mean this, but I couldn't control Coreplayer through my Bluetooth headset. If so, just go to tools, settings, go to WMP UI plugins and tick all three options.
Hope that helps

Is it possible to encode a DVD for the HD2 that doesn’t have “lip sync” issues??

I would be really, really greatfull if anybody could point me in the direction of any video/audio encoder software for a pc that I will convert a DVD to MP4 that will play on the HD2 with out BLOODY LIP SYNC issues??? (I don’t mind paying for it if it works)
I am beginning to wonder if it is possible to play any MP4 material on the HD2 with out the video/audio sync being out.
I used to own a HD1 and used protection’s great free app for this and the results were very good. Video was a little bit jerky but the lip sync was spot on
The audio is about a second behind when I play those files on the HD2???????, (When playing them on a PC sync is also spot on, so the video is not artificially delayed for the purposes of being in sync for the HD1)
I have tried Videora HTC Converter; trial version of DVD Catalyst 3, Handbrake, and Mp4ForHD and no matter how I set them up the lip sync is always out???
The main reason I upgraded to a HD2 was because of the large screen and fast processor for playing back video but it is worse that the HD1 due to lip sync. (also the video is still not any where near as smooth as the iphone and it has a 1GHz processor!!!!)
I am beginning to get very disappointed in the HD2 and any help would be much appreciated.
(P.S, this is using stock rom and various Cooked roms and the results as the same)
Thanks
Jason

Try this. After encoding there is an ability to synchronisize picture and sound. Most time this toll isn´t needed, because the rips are in high quality. Use the archos7 settings for the rip. And set volume to +2, otherwize it´s much to loud. Brightness has the best results with +6, the sound quality at 7% and the picture at 80%, because more quality let the file grow to more than 1 GB. For Playback use the Leo TCPMP, it´s the best player for these rips.

Neo XL said:
Try this. After encoding there is an ability to synchronisize picture and sound. Most time this toll isn´t needed, because the rips are in high quality. Use the archos7 settings for the rip. And set volume to +2, otherwize it´s much to loud. Brightness has the best results with +6, the sound quality at 7% and the picture at 80%, because more quality let the file grow to more than 1 GB. For Playback use the Leo TCPMP, it´s the best player for these rips.
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Cheers for reply Neo XL, will give it a go

I had the same problem, but got good results from: mp4forHD. There is an update/add-on for the HD2 which gives good picture and sound. Easy to use and all the settings are there for you.
Plays back perfectly in the standard HD2 video player.
Search this forum for the link....

this is the answer to your request
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649798
enjoy!

I use Handbrake 0.9.4,
Settings : MP4 , i dont use H.264,
Use FFmpeg, bitrate : 1500Kbps for anime, 2000Kbps for movie/songs.
Plays flawlessly on HD2.
converted 1080p, 720p, DVD, Youtube HD Vids, all to mp4 and plays well on HD2. no problem.

Thanks for all the answers, I have tried them all and I find that the lip sync is still out?
On mp4forHD, I used the HD2 profile and the sync was still way out.
I found that Handbrake 0.9.4, was the best using MP4, instead of H.264 but it is still not perfect.
I am playing the material using both WMP and HTC player. What I am doing wrong?
The HD2 is a bit if a disappointment to me in the video play back department considering its spec it promised so much.
I already used protections Video encoding GUI for my HD1 and don’t recall any lip sync issues on that device.

hi all,
3/4 of synchronization problems come from encoding when it is done with a variable rate codec VBR, for greater compatibility, it is recommended to use a fixed rate compression call CBR when encoding audio

Ok, but what I don’t understand is why files that are perfectly in sync when played on a pc and on the HD1 are out of sync when played on the HD2???
It’s as if the only way to get them in sync is to artificially delay the video when encoding...
I could sort of understand it more if it was the other way round as video generally takes longer to process than audio, but why should the audio be around 0.5 to 1 second delayed??? Don’t make sense to me.
Another thing I have noticed is that videos plays a lot smother when using WMP than using the HTC player, which is a shame as the HTC player is nicer to use in my opinion. The disappointing thing is I really didn’t expect any juddering of video on the HD2 after using the HD1 considering that it has a 1ghz processor which is FOUR times fast than the HD1, and I certainly wasn’t expecting this annoying lip sync issue.
People I know with iphones just laugh when I show them the never 100% smooth and, at best, slightly out of sync video performance on the HD2. The only thing they are jealous of is the bigger screen, which rumours say the next iphone will address.
Oh well, I suppose you have to put it down to the HD2’s main handicap, Windows Mobile. Hope version WM7 is better (if we can even use it on our HD2’s) sorry rambling onto a completely new subject now.

Never really had any massive problems with Handbrake. Ripped Top Gun and it was perfectly in sync for the entire movie.

If anyone here thinks the movies aren't desynced, look again. You might have just missed it the first time because the effect is subtle.
CBR, ABR, VBR, 3 different AAC codecs, 2 different MP3 codecs, even tried encoding the video differently. Every single time the sync was perfect on every device, computer, etc EXCEPT THE HD2.
There MUST be a way to fix this-- what's happening is that the audio is delayed slightly. To account for this, I'm currently purposefully encoding the audio at about 1/5 of a second in so that it accounts for the ~200-250ms desync (which is present in every video...including the stock ROM's Transformers movies!). This works but the file can't be played on any other system or computer of course because the file will be off by that 1/5 or 1/4 second.
Tried stock and 4 other ROMs. All exactly the same. I tried not to keep a single setting in common--fresh hard reset, etc. It's always there, and people have been complaining about it. Some people just don't notice 1/5 or 1/4 second delays. XD Or you think it's normal for the mouths to move a bit before the talking can be heard.
Surely a setting? Maybe it's something BSB tweaks can address? Somebody must know _something_, and the whole community would like to know what it is and how to fix our $450-700 de-synced movie players (HD2).

i use imTOO ultimate video converter. converted Spiderman, great quality and great sound. 10/10. file size was about 1.2gb. around the same size of transformers that it came with. but it looks the same

curiousGeorge said:
If anyone here thinks the movies aren't desynced, look again. You might have just missed it the first time because the effect is subtle.
CBR, ABR, VBR, 3 different AAC codecs, 2 different MP3 codecs, even tried encoding the video differently. Every single time the sync was perfect on every device, computer, etc EXCEPT THE HD2.
There MUST be a way to fix this-- what's happening is that the audio is delayed slightly. To account for this, I'm currently purposefully encoding the audio at about 1/5 of a second in so that it accounts for the ~200-250ms desync (which is present in every video...including the stock ROM's Transformers movies!). This works but the file can't be played on any other system or computer of course because the file will be off by that 1/5 or 1/4 second.
Tried stock and 4 other ROMs. All exactly the same. I tried not to keep a single setting in common--fresh hard reset, etc. It's always there, and people have been complaining about it. Some people just don't notice 1/5 or 1/4 second delays. XD Or you think it's normal for the mouths to move a bit before the talking can be heard.
Surely a setting? Maybe it's something BSB tweaks can address? Somebody must know _something_, and the whole community would like to know what it is and how to fix our $450-700 de-synced movie players (HD2).
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What programs can you use that will create an audio delay?

Hi,
I have found audio sync (amongst other) issues with all the free products noted on XDA that i've tried. Another issue I also noticed was the complicated configuration recommendations from people. Whilst helpful, it was fruitless as all the output was still desynced (and some products couldn't even output 800x480). I downloaded a demo of SPB Mobile DVD and with a couple of clicks I can convert stored video files and DVD's with perfect sync to quality 800x480 xvid or WMV ro watch on either media player or the HTC player. I also found that the DivX Player provides options for audio sync so if you want to use one of the free products which doesn't sync you can align the audio when you watch it on your HD2.

cMMY69 said:
Hi,
I have found audio sync (amongst other) issues with all the free products noted on XDA that i've tried. Another issue I also noticed was the complicated configuration recommendations from people. Whilst helpful, it was fruitless as all the output was still desynced (and some products couldn't even output 800x480). I downloaded a demo of SPB Mobile DVD and with a couple of clicks I can convert stored video files and DVD's with perfect sync to quality 800x480 xvid or WMV ro watch on either media player or the HTC player. I also found that the DivX Player provides options for audio sync so if you want to use one of the free products which doesn't sync you can align the audio when you watch it on your HD2.
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Sorry, but it's not a software issue at all. The only way "SPB Mobile DVD" or any other conversion program can produce files which play without the audio delay is if these programs ruin the video by delaying in the opposite direction. Yes, there are programs that you can use to introduce a negative delay--ffdshow will do it if you can get directshow to use it. Avisynth has a delayaudio(float) function which accepts negative values.
But none of these workarounds solves the problem of why all audio is delayed on the HD2. Not just videos--Games, etc all have the problem. Coreplayer is a software decoder you can use to set a manual delay decoder-side... but this means you can't use the powersaving video acceleration of the device, and the files don't play back properly (skipped frames, reduced colors, no HE-AAC support, aliasing).

I have tried just about every bit software and settings on this forum and I am unable to get any decent quality in sync results.
Thought I would try SPB Mobile DVD, don’t what I am doing wrong, but I can’t seem to get it to convert from a DVD. It gets al the way to the last screen then just “freezes” and doesn’t start converting. Have tried with a number of DVD’s.
It starts converting ok when I pick a single file to convert, (it for some reason will only let you select one file and not multiple DVD files from this option??) but I don’t want to do that, I want to convert a DVD.
Any Ideas?????

That confirms it. This is not a software issue. The HD2 has an audio/video bug that HTC needs to fix: a 250ms audio delay.

curiousGeorge said:
That confirms it. This is not a software issue. The HD2 has an audio/video bug that HTC needs to fix: a 250ms audio delay.
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Sorry curiousGeorge what confirms it?
I too believe that the HD2 is at fault here as everything I encode via about 15 different pieces of software I have tried play back with perfect sync on the PC and out of sync on the HD2
THIS REALLY IS DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!!!
The only saving hope I have of the HD2 video play back capabilities is a clip I downloaded from post 14 of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628092&page=2
It plays back perfectly in sync and perfectly smooth and the quality is amazing.
I would just LOVE to know how this was encoded and if it is possible to get anything near this from a DVD.
(I tried the program and settings mentioned on the thread and all I got was a load of MPEG4 files that looked rubbish and were out of sync)
With regard to SPB Mobile DVD, I finally got this to work on my pc but the resulting file does not play back with any sound???!!! So I don’t know if it has sync issues or not. It is also CRAP video quality and juggers all over the place.
I am really getting pi**ed off with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DVD Encode
I've found there is no need to encode Dvds specifically for the hd2. I've downloaded films from the net and copied them straight to the sd card. Played them through coreplayer and they play perfectly. Divx play with great quality.

jab1972 said:
Sorry curiousGeorge what confirms it?
I too believe that the HD2 is at fault here as everything I encode via about 15 different pieces of software I have tried play back with perfect sync on the PC and out of sync on the HD2
THIS REALLY IS DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!!!
The only saving hope I have of the HD2 video play back capabilities is a clip I downloaded from post 14 of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628092&page=2
It plays back perfectly in sync and perfectly smooth and the quality is amazing.
I would just LOVE to know how this was encoded and if it is possible to get anything near this from a DVD.
(I tried the program and settings mentioned on the thread and all I got was a load of MPEG4 files that looked rubbish and were out of sync)
With regard to SPB Mobile DVD, I finally got this to work on my pc but the resulting file does not play back with any sound???!!! So I don’t know if it has sync issues or not. It is also CRAP video quality and juggers all over the place.
I am really getting pi**ed off with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Because that video was encoded with a audio delayed added. It's a system flaw of the HD2 to play normal in synced video with a slight audio delay. Not really that audible to those who ain't looking for it, but it's there. And unless HTC does something to solve it, posting it in every thread out there isn't gonna change anything but sound irritating.
Do you know how to use the DVD encoding portion of winmenc? That could account for your wrong outputs. Or are the dvds CSS protected? Only non-protected dvds can be decoded direct. If not, you should use an app like DVDShrink to extract and decode those dvds to your pc, then use those source files in winmenc. Those will encode fine.

Excellent DVD Video Encoding GUI for the HD2

this is a GREAT piece of software, discovered this a while ago
while I was using the Blackstone (HTC Touch HD).
1. using this :
http://www.magicdvdripper.com/index.htm
rip your desired DVD, rip it to a wmv format
2. then using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
convert the file. (wvga and everything else use default settings)
place it in your sd card (in say for example a folder named "Films")
just simply open it using file explorer = now
TOTAL HAPPINESS
all credits to its creators

Not quite total happiness. Pay special attention to the video and mouths and such. If you're on a TMOUS phone, you should see 250ms of desync. Might want to mention we should introduce a negative delay of 250ms.
Seriously, someone has to have a fix for this glaring problem of the HD2!

curiousGeorge said:
Not quite total happiness. Pay special attention to the video and mouths and such. If you're on a TMOUS phone, you should see 250ms of desync. Might want to mention we should introduce a negative delay of 250ms.
Seriously, someone has to have a fix for this glaring problem of the HD2!
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Hi, I found that SPB Mobile DVD ripped video without any apparent audio sync issues. The product isn't free though (just a free demo).

Why would anyone encode to a proprietary format like WMV? At least do H.264/MP4 which will provide with much better quality and smaller size. And there are plenty of free encoders on the net.

cMMY69 said:
Hi, I found that SPB Mobile DVD ripped video without any apparent audio sync issues. The product isn't free though (just a free demo).
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I don't think it's possible to avoid the 250ms skew with a general purpose encoding program. I don't think it's encoder-side at all--the TMOUS HD2 produces this audio skew (lip sync problem) on ALL audio it plays, from games to the stock Transformers videos.
I suggest you reexamine your video and see if you can't spot it--it's subtle, and you might not have seen it there before. I'm sure it's not a settings issue for me--if all programs, games, and videos (every video I put on here, some of which I didn't convert, some of which I play with Coreplayer, etc) all have the issue...and accross multiple ROMs, and other TMOUS customers have the same, it's a problem with the HD2. I suspect drivers.

what about mp4forhd?
it converts your dvd's directly from dvd to mp4...
DN41

DN41 said:
what about mp4forhd?
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Thanks for pointing out, m8. Will definitely try this app.
Olioaglio

DN41 said:
what about mp4forhd?
it converts your dvd's directly from dvd to mp4...
DN41
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I doubt any "converter" can fix the problem with our HD2's. All audio on the HD2 is 250ms delayed.