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video playback ?

hi,
is video playback, especially divx, possible on cruise ?
...and working fine ? at wich resolution ?
i heard about playback issues on tytn II, and i want to know if it is the same with cruise.
regards,
laurent.

loorent said:
hi,
is video playback, especially divx, possible on cruise ?
...and working fine ? at wich resolution ?
i heard about playback issues on tytn II, and i want to know if it is the same with cruise.
regards,
laurent.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355172

i saw that, but...only one negative feedback !....meaning: r we sure there's a big issue on that ?

It's essentially the same platform as the Tytn II with a different form factor so there are more resaons to believe it will have the same video playback capabilities. The benchmarks look the same too. If it is better, that is good news because then the drivers can possibly be harvested from the Cruise.
My sugestion would be that if this is a key feature for you, wait a bit and see how it plays out for sure.

thx !
i will wait...or buy an iphone

Don't waste your money for the iPhone! The HTC Polaris can play ANY video without any issues using TCPMP 0.81.
Get it here: http://www.ppc-welt.de/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=25780&d=1199459090

I have tried both TCPMP and the newer CorePlayer on the TyTN II (same platform as Polaris) for playing downsized DivX and Xvid (320x240) and I must say it SUCKED. the playback was choppy, the sound had outages, the player was sluggish while in playback. It seems the Qualcomm chipset does not handle video playback well.

maati said:
Don't waste your money for the iPhone! The HTC Polaris can play ANY video without any issues using TCPMP 0.81.
Get it here: http://www.ppc-welt.de/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=25780&d=1199459090
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This can not possibly be true. It looks like you are deliberately trying to cause a debate. Why?

Well, I only know that my HTC Polaris play every video very well!
Believe it or not, but TCPMP 0.81 does not lag at all.

<lawyerspeak>
TO MAATI:
Sir, you are hereby requested and required to provide the community with proof that TCPMP 0.81 video play back does not lag and performs acceptably. A YouTube video will be acceptable.
</lawyerspeak>

[follow]
I hereby join the club of people who wants to see proof.
[/follow]

A youtube video?
How about just posting a video here and posting back the results from the 'benchmark' option in TCPMP.
I have two videos I use for testing / benchmarking this from another topic. Don't remember the topic and I'm not home right now, but if nobody comes up with one I will take them from my device and put them here.
I doubt the Polaris has the correct drivers, but if it does, ROM dump and we'll fix them up for the Kaiser in NO time (same idea we have with KS20, but KS20 drivers are not very compatible - the polaris drivers will probably work without hacks)

Please read the EDIT there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1786601&postcount=27
It only performs well below resolutions of 400xXXX. So there are NO drivers, unfortunately.

Well you can play VGA (640x480) sized videos on Polaris, see my post on the other thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1792982#post1792982

As promised, albeit a bit late, here are the two video files I have used for my own benchmarks. I have seen them used in other topics, as well as other sites.
My results, tested on Stock HTC (Dutch) TyTN II in TCPMP 0.72RC1
320x240
DDRAW: 63%
RAW: 195%
GDI: 108%
640x480
DDRAW: 24%
RAW: 75%
GDI: 62%
320x240: http://www.jongma.org/tmp/videotest320240.avi
640x480: http://www.jongma.org/tmp/videotest640480.avi
Yeah, 320x240 plays fine, but the point is that you shouldn't need to recode a 640x480 video. It should just play fine.

Chainfire said:
As promised, albeit a bit late, here are the two video files I have used for my own benchmarks. I have seen them used in other topics, as well as other sites.
My results, tested on Stock HTC (Dutch) TyTN II in TCPMP 0.72RC1
320x240
DDRAW: 63%
RAW: 195%
GDI: 108%
640x480
DDRAW: 24%
RAW: 75%
GDI: 62%
320x240: http://www.jongma.org/tmp/videotest320240.avi
640x480: http://www.jongma.org/tmp/videotest640480.avi
Yeah, 320x240 plays fine, but the point is that you shouldn't need to recode a 640x480 video. It should just play fine.
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the 640x480 video in your link with low quality and raw ,has 152% with tcpmp 0.81
also when i try other video format(.mpg)the results are disappointed.

Ah, very good, some "cracks" are here.
So what is the highest quality I can achieve with the Cruise? Due to the fact, that I'm really out of money for the next time (damn laptop crashed), the software used should be freeware. I don't mind in downsizing to 320x240, but I want to have a minimum speed of 25fps (some people use 15fps, but I don't like that). Which codec should I use, which bitrate, which program?

TCPMP 0.81
maati said:
Don't waste your money for the iPhone! The HTC Polaris can play ANY video without any issues using TCPMP 0.81.
Get it here: http://www.ppc-welt.de/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=25780&d=1199459090
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I have installed TCPMP 0.72RC1.
Is there any reason to update to 0.81?
Thanks,
Cédric

badaccent said:
I have tried both TCPMP and the newer CorePlayer on the TyTN II (same platform as Polaris) for playing downsized DivX and Xvid (320x240) and I must say it SUCKED. the playback was choppy, the sound had outages, the player was sluggish while in playback. It seems the Qualcomm chipset does not handle video playback well.
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My experience has been good so far with the TyTN II and Coreplayer Ver 1.1.1
I followed the method given by Mrvanx on his site to convert DVD's and shrink the file size.
Average for a DVD about 500mb.
The quality of the video is good with no skipping at all.
The sound I route through my HTC bluetooth headset and is IPod standard.
I used the same software on my TyTN.
I am using the loaded TyTN II OEM software.

I am little confused
I appreciate that the Kaiser and Polaris appear to have the same problems with video.
My confussions starts here;
Will the polaris or kaiser play video back at 320x240? And if this is the case are people just a little pi**ed off that they wont play back 640x480 videos. sorry if this is a dumb arse newbie type of question!
Cheers
Marc

divx player for touch pro

this is a very nice player which plays divx movies
http://labs.divx.com/system/files/private/DivXPlayer_PPC.zip

For people having problems to download this file: Try another browser instead of Internet Explorer.
I could download it with Firefox, but when I tried to download it at a friends place with IE, it failed.
So I tried it at home with IE, also problems.
Tried it again with Firefox: No problem

have no problem downloading it with IE7..
you should ditch firefox. its the most sucky browser there is.. go check Opera if you insist on having a better browser as this is the only one better then IE7.

da_jojo said:
have no problem downloading it with IE7..
you should ditch firefox. its the most sucky browser there is.. go check Opera if you insist on having a better browser as this is the only one better then IE7.
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I hope you're joking! IE7 is terrible. Firefox is vastly superior and can be customised nicely! Opera is great on the PC (Not a huge fan of it on the PPC though); If you want speed, Safari is what you need!
Regarding the Dixv player, there is a slightly newer version available HERE

neil_swann80 said:
I hope you're joking! IE7 is terrible. Firefox is vastly superior and can be customised nicely! Opera is great on the PC (Not a huge fan of it on the PPC though); If you want speed, Safari is what you need!
Regarding the Dixv player, there is a slightly newer version available HERE
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I just tried this out and was very surprised to note that it played a full size 700 mb movie as well as Coreplayer with "QTV Display". I was only expecting it to be as good as "directdraw" on coreplayer, slow and jittery.
Has anyone tried this program with the TV Out cable? I wonder if it would still have the blue flicker reported when using Coreplayer and TV Out.

P0ll0L0c0 said:
Has anyone tried this program with the TV Out cable? I wonder if it would still have the blue flicker reported when using Coreplayer and TV Out.
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My TV-Out cable arrives on Friday, so I'll let you know!

neil_swann80 said:
My TV-Out cable arrives on Friday, so I'll let you know!
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Great, I hope it works. Based on the reviews on Coreplayer and it's TV Out, I'd kind of lost hope on video performance for this phone.

I installed it and got a message that it is outdated and go to mobile.divx.com to get the updated player. The problem is that it requires a login and gives no option to "join". How can I get the updated player??

sndtubes said:
I installed it and got a message that it is outdated and go to mobile.divx.com to get the updated player. The problem is that it requires a login and gives no option to "join". How can I get the updated player??
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Try the latest one HERE

I have a TV-out cable, and I can confirm that the Divx player doesn't have any blue flicker like Coreplayer.

i dl'd the file and it said i installed the wrong file even though i installed the right cab file.

Thanks Guys,
I think the link should have been Here instead.
How long does it run for before it expires?
Cheers,
D.

Zaim2 said:
I have a TV-out cable, and I can confirm that the Divx player doesn't have any blue flicker like Coreplayer.
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Awesome. Can someone confirm the video quality over TV Out with this program? The two questions I have specifically are the following: Does the processor slow down any further when exporting via tv out - or does the tv out hardware take over? Also - when exporting to a widescreen tv, does the image stretch to the right aspect ratio, or does it only get wide making the image look fat?

Sorry P0ll0L0c0 unable to confirm TV Out performance as I don't have a cable, I can confirm that the app's not bad, it does however reset your backlight settings to 5 mins on battery and 10 mins on power but forgets to return them to original settings on exit.
Other than that, good work.
D.

got my pro and the tv-out cable today.
from what i can say is that the divx player sucks big time
coreplayer is the one to go for. but yes, i also have that blue flickering when using qtv. any fix for it already? still using the o2 stock rom if that matters.

TarKin said:
got my pro and the tv-out cable today.
from what i can say is that the divx player sucks big time
coreplayer is the one to go for. but yes, i also have that blue flickering when using qtv. any fix for it already? still using the o2 stock rom if that matters.
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I guess it must depend on the file. I've got a 700 mb copy of Hellboy that plays just as good on the divx player when compared to coreplayer using qtv. Since qtv doesn't work with tv out due to the blue flicker, the divx player has the advantage in my opinion.
I'm now tempted to buy a tv out cable to see how good output will be - but I think they're overpriced right now.

The Divx player stutters with every avi file I've tried on my device. Core player on QTV setting is by far the best (although you get the blue flicker on TV-Out). It's not too bad on the Direct Draw setting when using TV-Out, watchable.
Hopefully the next release of Core Player will solve this issue.

Guys I just chimed in on this thread. I just got my 8gig card and now I want to try out a movie on my phone. I have the latest version of TCPMP installed on my phone. Should I go with the Coreplayer you guys have been talking about on this thread? Also I don't understand what you guys were talking about in using the tv out input etc... I am switching from a Palm Treo to the Pro and I am trying to use this phone for all it's worth. Please help me. Thanks!!!!

mmotown said:
Guys I just chimed in on this thread. I just got my 8gig card and now I want to try out a movie on my phone. I have the latest version of TCPMP installed on my phone. Should I go with the Coreplayer you guys have been talking about on this thread? Also I don't understand what you guys were talking about in using the tv out input etc... I am switching from a Palm Treo to the Pro and I am trying to use this phone for all it's worth. Please help me. Thanks!!!!
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seems like u can either use coreplayer or the divx player on our devices. There is just a conflict weather it works with our phones TV/out. (Our phones can output video to a TV with a special cable)
im interested in this. Installing the divx player now to test some 700mb movies.

brooksthepro said:
seems like u can either use coreplayer or the divx player on our devices. There is just a conflict weather it works with our phones TV/out. (Our phones can output video to a TV with a special cable)
im interested in this. Installing the divx player now to test some 700mb movies.
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So I should uninstall TCPMP and install coreplayer or divx?

Question for a Fuze/Rapheal user about vid playback

I did some digging on this subject, couldn't really find a definite answer on the subject. I currently own a tilt, and am considering purchasing a fuze, since with the announcement of the tilt 2, they are dropping in price. But my concern is power! You might know, that the Tilt has some video driver issues, as in can't play h.264/mp4's too well, i.e. any video podcasts i download. I'm also hoping to get emulators running smoothly with sound, but thats not too important. So my question is this, is this issue resolved on the Fuze? I noticed a thread stickied discussing touch pro performance, but nothing really says "it's fixed". Saw a few posts saying the drivers are still crap though. Thanks for any help! (and sorry if it's already posted, and i just couldn't find it)

Fixed - no!
Watchable - yes, depending on the files you're starting with of course.
Being VGA (tilt is qvga) everything on the screen looks much better and coreplayer does make most things play quite well.

Basically I have found that you can play any format video on this device very smoothly, AS LONG as it doesnt use the dolby AC3 Codec for audio as coreplayer wont play this and you need to revert to the older, non hardware supporting TCMP. Luckily this means about 5% of my media

im hsving problems with the coreplayer key

HTC Album/full screen player plays .mp4's pretty well. Unfortunately, it has a sucky UI (rather, it doesn't have an interface).

you can use newer version of full screen player and htc album which have better interface controls. i would still spring for core player. plays my divx videos perfectly, full visual framerate and matching audio. much better than divxplayer.

Thanks for the replies you guys! So, just to clarify, if I bought a fuze, and downloaded any random video podcast, which is usually mp4, 640x480, I wouldn't be disappointed?

Best Video Converter for HD2 :)

Hello All,
I have spent almost the whole of today looking for a good video converter for the HD2
I have sum new RMVB and MKV Movies and would love too convert them in 800x400 but cant seem too find a good converter!
Can you please help me with whats working for each off you!
Much Appreciated

format factory rocks

The free and amazing mp4forHD.
You can find it on this forum, it's made for HTC HD but it also has a profile the HD2

MeGui - nothing beats it!

Toss3,
but for getting best results in MeGUI advanced experience is needed.
Could you do us the favour and post your most important settings for
best results on HD2 here? Would appreciate it
Best regards, Olioaglio

wow...thanks for the replies guys!!
i found mp4hd and used it too convert the simpsons movie and rambo 4
the quality of conversion is great but the sound and video is out of sync by a little and not much!
should i be looking at any specific settings to get the best out of mp4hd???
thanks again and i will try the other recommendations and get bk too u guys
cheers

I use my custom profile in WinMEnc, which offsets the audio so it plays in sync on the device

Olioaglio said:
Toss3,
but for getting best results in MeGUI advanced experience is needed.
Could you do us the favour and post your most important settings for
best results on HD2 here? Would appreciate it
Best regards, Olioaglio
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Search for p-krill's posts. I'm using the same settings he posted in this thread.

TMPGEnc.XPress converter looks so good but its taking me 5 hrs plus too convert a 2hr movie
the quality looks immaculate with the settings provided
am trying formfactory now so let you know how it goes but it seems alot quicker and has alot of functions aswell

Have a look at the HTC HD Touch Video Converter, get also really nice results. And you can use Subtitles too.

TMPGEnc.XPress

There have been really quite a lot of threads on this subject before: original poster, you might like try to searching the forum before posting a question to see if it has been asked before.
A couple of examples of earlier threads: here, here and here.
Sadly, such threads never seem come to any useful conclusions. This is partly because everyone piles in and automatically recommends whichever app they use, without stating why they recommend it, or what benefits it has over any other app, or what parameters they recommend using with it. It's also because I don't think ever completely nailed down the optimum encoding parameters. This thread got some way towards that goal, but I don't think we ever came to any firm conclusions.
If you are not sure what you are doing then I recommend MP4ForHD, which you can download here. The results are perhaps not quite optimal, but they're pretty good, and it's fairly idiot proof. Use the default HD2 profile, to begin with.
I would steer clear of the Touch HD "Video Encoding GUI" as its settings are too conservative for the HD2; it trades off video quality for ease of processing in a way that is necessary on a Touch HD but not on an HD2.
If you are more of an expert then I suggest MediaCoder.

To elaborate on my settings.
Install WinMEnc
Add my profile to the profile folder.
Load WinMenc, add you files, select my profile from the dropdown list, check 'fit to width' on the 'Video' tab, and encode.
Play the mp4 in HTC Album.
Example video
I've batch encoded Dexter season 4 720p with the above settings, and it looks amazing.

Shasarak said:
There have been really quite a lot of threads on this subject before: original poster, you might like try to searching the forum before posting a question to see if it has been asked before.
A couple of examples of earlier threads: here, here and here.
Sadly, such threads never seem come to any useful conclusions. This is partly because everyone piles in and automatically recommends whichever app they use, without stating why they recommend it, or what benefits it has over any other app, or what parameters they recommend using with it. It's also because I don't think ever completely nailed down the optimum encoding parameters. This thread got some way towards that goal, but I don't think we ever came to any firm conclusions.
If you are not sure what you are doing then I recommend MP4ForHD, which you can download here. The results are perhaps not quite optimal, but they're pretty good, and it's fairly idiot proof. Use the default HD2 profile, to begin with.
I would steer clear of the Touch HD "Video Encoding GUI" as its settings are too conservative for the HD2; it trades off video quality for ease of processing in a way that is necessary on a Touch HD but not on an HD2.
If you are more of an expert then I suggest MediaCoder.
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Simply because everyone has their own standards of what is good/good enough/who cares? There isn't a single encoding method that is the "best", per se.
For me, I have ended my quest for encoding specs, and I've already listed the software and parameters I've used. I'm sure someone out there will disagree, saying that other parameters would make it better in terms of size/quality, with or without CUDA (and the list goes on and on), and kudos to them. Personally I'm more than happy with my encodes, I'm glad that kr00t0n finds it useful too.

kr00t0n said:
To elaborate on my settings.
Install WinMEnc
Add my profile to the profile folder.
Load WinMenc, add you files, select my profile from the dropdown list, check 'fit to width' on the 'Video' tab, and encode.
Play the mp4 in HTC Album.
Example video
I've batch encoded Dexter season 4 720p with the above settings, and it looks amazing.
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Recently I'm having troubles with this profile for encoding mkvs (mostly music videos)...They tend to crash a little into the encoding. You have this problem?
However if I encode them into avi with similar encoding specs, it works. It looks like encoding h264 into h264 causes a problem for mkvs, at least for me.

madmarf said:
Have a look at the HTC HD Touch Video Converter, get also really nice results. And you can use Subtitles too.
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use this

I use Winavi MP4 converter.. easy fast nice ;-)

Hi,
i downloaded HTC touch HD video converter 1.21 version.
and converted a 2.5GB 720p mkv movie to 800x480 900kbps 160kb audio.
i am interested in mainly converting mkv to hd2 format.
i have a duo 2 core 8400 processor and it took me like 4 hrs.
i read somewhere that on HD2 keeping the video bitrate above 700kbps doesnt make a difference and just ends up using more battery while playback.
is that true??
what should be the best settings i should keep in order to get good results?
also is there any other way to convert in a shorter time than this??
will keeping a lower video bitrate decrease the total time??
i know many of you will say trial and error is the best way, but i am asking to get a head start as 4+hrs to convert one movie is alot of time.
anyways thanks for answering guys

i am curious too about the questions geronemo has, maybe some would like to share their experiences here?

I use badaboom it use your Nvidia GPU wich is much faster If you want the right settings for it ask me. 30 minutes video is 6 minutes converting video.

Is it possible to encode a DVD for the HD2 that doesn’t have “lip sync” issues??

I would be really, really greatfull if anybody could point me in the direction of any video/audio encoder software for a pc that I will convert a DVD to MP4 that will play on the HD2 with out BLOODY LIP SYNC issues??? (I don’t mind paying for it if it works)
I am beginning to wonder if it is possible to play any MP4 material on the HD2 with out the video/audio sync being out.
I used to own a HD1 and used protection’s great free app for this and the results were very good. Video was a little bit jerky but the lip sync was spot on
The audio is about a second behind when I play those files on the HD2???????, (When playing them on a PC sync is also spot on, so the video is not artificially delayed for the purposes of being in sync for the HD1)
I have tried Videora HTC Converter; trial version of DVD Catalyst 3, Handbrake, and Mp4ForHD and no matter how I set them up the lip sync is always out???
The main reason I upgraded to a HD2 was because of the large screen and fast processor for playing back video but it is worse that the HD1 due to lip sync. (also the video is still not any where near as smooth as the iphone and it has a 1GHz processor!!!!)
I am beginning to get very disappointed in the HD2 and any help would be much appreciated.
(P.S, this is using stock rom and various Cooked roms and the results as the same)
Thanks
Jason

Try this. After encoding there is an ability to synchronisize picture and sound. Most time this toll isn´t needed, because the rips are in high quality. Use the archos7 settings for the rip. And set volume to +2, otherwize it´s much to loud. Brightness has the best results with +6, the sound quality at 7% and the picture at 80%, because more quality let the file grow to more than 1 GB. For Playback use the Leo TCPMP, it´s the best player for these rips.

Neo XL said:
Try this. After encoding there is an ability to synchronisize picture and sound. Most time this toll isn´t needed, because the rips are in high quality. Use the archos7 settings for the rip. And set volume to +2, otherwize it´s much to loud. Brightness has the best results with +6, the sound quality at 7% and the picture at 80%, because more quality let the file grow to more than 1 GB. For Playback use the Leo TCPMP, it´s the best player for these rips.
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Cheers for reply Neo XL, will give it a go

I had the same problem, but got good results from: mp4forHD. There is an update/add-on for the HD2 which gives good picture and sound. Easy to use and all the settings are there for you.
Plays back perfectly in the standard HD2 video player.
Search this forum for the link....

this is the answer to your request
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649798
enjoy!

I use Handbrake 0.9.4,
Settings : MP4 , i dont use H.264,
Use FFmpeg, bitrate : 1500Kbps for anime, 2000Kbps for movie/songs.
Plays flawlessly on HD2.
converted 1080p, 720p, DVD, Youtube HD Vids, all to mp4 and plays well on HD2. no problem.

Thanks for all the answers, I have tried them all and I find that the lip sync is still out?
On mp4forHD, I used the HD2 profile and the sync was still way out.
I found that Handbrake 0.9.4, was the best using MP4, instead of H.264 but it is still not perfect.
I am playing the material using both WMP and HTC player. What I am doing wrong?
The HD2 is a bit if a disappointment to me in the video play back department considering its spec it promised so much.
I already used protections Video encoding GUI for my HD1 and don’t recall any lip sync issues on that device.

hi all,
3/4 of synchronization problems come from encoding when it is done with a variable rate codec VBR, for greater compatibility, it is recommended to use a fixed rate compression call CBR when encoding audio

Ok, but what I don’t understand is why files that are perfectly in sync when played on a pc and on the HD1 are out of sync when played on the HD2???
It’s as if the only way to get them in sync is to artificially delay the video when encoding...
I could sort of understand it more if it was the other way round as video generally takes longer to process than audio, but why should the audio be around 0.5 to 1 second delayed??? Don’t make sense to me.
Another thing I have noticed is that videos plays a lot smother when using WMP than using the HTC player, which is a shame as the HTC player is nicer to use in my opinion. The disappointing thing is I really didn’t expect any juddering of video on the HD2 after using the HD1 considering that it has a 1ghz processor which is FOUR times fast than the HD1, and I certainly wasn’t expecting this annoying lip sync issue.
People I know with iphones just laugh when I show them the never 100% smooth and, at best, slightly out of sync video performance on the HD2. The only thing they are jealous of is the bigger screen, which rumours say the next iphone will address.
Oh well, I suppose you have to put it down to the HD2’s main handicap, Windows Mobile. Hope version WM7 is better (if we can even use it on our HD2’s) sorry rambling onto a completely new subject now.

Never really had any massive problems with Handbrake. Ripped Top Gun and it was perfectly in sync for the entire movie.

If anyone here thinks the movies aren't desynced, look again. You might have just missed it the first time because the effect is subtle.
CBR, ABR, VBR, 3 different AAC codecs, 2 different MP3 codecs, even tried encoding the video differently. Every single time the sync was perfect on every device, computer, etc EXCEPT THE HD2.
There MUST be a way to fix this-- what's happening is that the audio is delayed slightly. To account for this, I'm currently purposefully encoding the audio at about 1/5 of a second in so that it accounts for the ~200-250ms desync (which is present in every video...including the stock ROM's Transformers movies!). This works but the file can't be played on any other system or computer of course because the file will be off by that 1/5 or 1/4 second.
Tried stock and 4 other ROMs. All exactly the same. I tried not to keep a single setting in common--fresh hard reset, etc. It's always there, and people have been complaining about it. Some people just don't notice 1/5 or 1/4 second delays. XD Or you think it's normal for the mouths to move a bit before the talking can be heard.
Surely a setting? Maybe it's something BSB tweaks can address? Somebody must know _something_, and the whole community would like to know what it is and how to fix our $450-700 de-synced movie players (HD2).

i use imTOO ultimate video converter. converted Spiderman, great quality and great sound. 10/10. file size was about 1.2gb. around the same size of transformers that it came with. but it looks the same

curiousGeorge said:
If anyone here thinks the movies aren't desynced, look again. You might have just missed it the first time because the effect is subtle.
CBR, ABR, VBR, 3 different AAC codecs, 2 different MP3 codecs, even tried encoding the video differently. Every single time the sync was perfect on every device, computer, etc EXCEPT THE HD2.
There MUST be a way to fix this-- what's happening is that the audio is delayed slightly. To account for this, I'm currently purposefully encoding the audio at about 1/5 of a second in so that it accounts for the ~200-250ms desync (which is present in every video...including the stock ROM's Transformers movies!). This works but the file can't be played on any other system or computer of course because the file will be off by that 1/5 or 1/4 second.
Tried stock and 4 other ROMs. All exactly the same. I tried not to keep a single setting in common--fresh hard reset, etc. It's always there, and people have been complaining about it. Some people just don't notice 1/5 or 1/4 second delays. XD Or you think it's normal for the mouths to move a bit before the talking can be heard.
Surely a setting? Maybe it's something BSB tweaks can address? Somebody must know _something_, and the whole community would like to know what it is and how to fix our $450-700 de-synced movie players (HD2).
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What programs can you use that will create an audio delay?

Hi,
I have found audio sync (amongst other) issues with all the free products noted on XDA that i've tried. Another issue I also noticed was the complicated configuration recommendations from people. Whilst helpful, it was fruitless as all the output was still desynced (and some products couldn't even output 800x480). I downloaded a demo of SPB Mobile DVD and with a couple of clicks I can convert stored video files and DVD's with perfect sync to quality 800x480 xvid or WMV ro watch on either media player or the HTC player. I also found that the DivX Player provides options for audio sync so if you want to use one of the free products which doesn't sync you can align the audio when you watch it on your HD2.

cMMY69 said:
Hi,
I have found audio sync (amongst other) issues with all the free products noted on XDA that i've tried. Another issue I also noticed was the complicated configuration recommendations from people. Whilst helpful, it was fruitless as all the output was still desynced (and some products couldn't even output 800x480). I downloaded a demo of SPB Mobile DVD and with a couple of clicks I can convert stored video files and DVD's with perfect sync to quality 800x480 xvid or WMV ro watch on either media player or the HTC player. I also found that the DivX Player provides options for audio sync so if you want to use one of the free products which doesn't sync you can align the audio when you watch it on your HD2.
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Sorry, but it's not a software issue at all. The only way "SPB Mobile DVD" or any other conversion program can produce files which play without the audio delay is if these programs ruin the video by delaying in the opposite direction. Yes, there are programs that you can use to introduce a negative delay--ffdshow will do it if you can get directshow to use it. Avisynth has a delayaudio(float) function which accepts negative values.
But none of these workarounds solves the problem of why all audio is delayed on the HD2. Not just videos--Games, etc all have the problem. Coreplayer is a software decoder you can use to set a manual delay decoder-side... but this means you can't use the powersaving video acceleration of the device, and the files don't play back properly (skipped frames, reduced colors, no HE-AAC support, aliasing).

I have tried just about every bit software and settings on this forum and I am unable to get any decent quality in sync results.
Thought I would try SPB Mobile DVD, don’t what I am doing wrong, but I can’t seem to get it to convert from a DVD. It gets al the way to the last screen then just “freezes” and doesn’t start converting. Have tried with a number of DVD’s.
It starts converting ok when I pick a single file to convert, (it for some reason will only let you select one file and not multiple DVD files from this option??) but I don’t want to do that, I want to convert a DVD.
Any Ideas?????

That confirms it. This is not a software issue. The HD2 has an audio/video bug that HTC needs to fix: a 250ms audio delay.

curiousGeorge said:
That confirms it. This is not a software issue. The HD2 has an audio/video bug that HTC needs to fix: a 250ms audio delay.
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Sorry curiousGeorge what confirms it?
I too believe that the HD2 is at fault here as everything I encode via about 15 different pieces of software I have tried play back with perfect sync on the PC and out of sync on the HD2
THIS REALLY IS DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!!!
The only saving hope I have of the HD2 video play back capabilities is a clip I downloaded from post 14 of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628092&page=2
It plays back perfectly in sync and perfectly smooth and the quality is amazing.
I would just LOVE to know how this was encoded and if it is possible to get anything near this from a DVD.
(I tried the program and settings mentioned on the thread and all I got was a load of MPEG4 files that looked rubbish and were out of sync)
With regard to SPB Mobile DVD, I finally got this to work on my pc but the resulting file does not play back with any sound???!!! So I don’t know if it has sync issues or not. It is also CRAP video quality and juggers all over the place.
I am really getting pi**ed off with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DVD Encode
I've found there is no need to encode Dvds specifically for the hd2. I've downloaded films from the net and copied them straight to the sd card. Played them through coreplayer and they play perfectly. Divx play with great quality.

jab1972 said:
Sorry curiousGeorge what confirms it?
I too believe that the HD2 is at fault here as everything I encode via about 15 different pieces of software I have tried play back with perfect sync on the PC and out of sync on the HD2
THIS REALLY IS DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!!!
The only saving hope I have of the HD2 video play back capabilities is a clip I downloaded from post 14 of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628092&page=2
It plays back perfectly in sync and perfectly smooth and the quality is amazing.
I would just LOVE to know how this was encoded and if it is possible to get anything near this from a DVD.
(I tried the program and settings mentioned on the thread and all I got was a load of MPEG4 files that looked rubbish and were out of sync)
With regard to SPB Mobile DVD, I finally got this to work on my pc but the resulting file does not play back with any sound???!!! So I don’t know if it has sync issues or not. It is also CRAP video quality and juggers all over the place.
I am really getting pi**ed off with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Because that video was encoded with a audio delayed added. It's a system flaw of the HD2 to play normal in synced video with a slight audio delay. Not really that audible to those who ain't looking for it, but it's there. And unless HTC does something to solve it, posting it in every thread out there isn't gonna change anything but sound irritating.
Do you know how to use the DVD encoding portion of winmenc? That could account for your wrong outputs. Or are the dvds CSS protected? Only non-protected dvds can be decoded direct. If not, you should use an app like DVDShrink to extract and decode those dvds to your pc, then use those source files in winmenc. Those will encode fine.