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Is it me or the Wing seems kinda gay?

Its all soft and what not....I sold mine off last week and went and got a Vodaphone VPA Compact 3...this is quite sturdy which can withstand my abuse....So what phone do you guys think is good...lookingwise and stregnth wise????

Doh!
First off, this forum is populated (mostly - I hope) by sensible adults.
Your use of the word 'Gay' in an obviously detrimental way would probably not be so welcome. It certainly isn't from me.
I know, lots of stupid kids and even dumb adults use it in that way but, you are grown up enough to know that you want a windows mobile device and not an 'Iphone' or some other hyped rubbish.
I would reccomend you utilise your maturity when thinking of ways to show your disaproval. Honestly, it should generally make you more popular to *sensible* people.
Back to the topic:
I think that the best devices are probably:
HTC Athena (If you want a Big power House - GPS-VGA-Ati Video Card-Huge screen)
HTC Kaiser (If you want a small power House - GPS - Fast Processor)
HTC Touch (smallest PPC I have ever seen) (Popular with Ladies/if u only want to use phone/Pim functions and value battery life)
Dell Axim X51V (If you want the best Graphically Accelerated device available)

Gay, gay, gay... Quit being so PC.
Kaiser or Hermes both are loaded and from what I understand, durable.

both my Vario II (Hermes) and Touch (Elf) are thoroughly heterosexual mobile devices.
the Touch seems to be seen by some as a "ladyphone", but i've dropped mine several times and it's hardly got a scratch on it. except for when my girlfriend decided to cover it with sand on the beach in Cyprus.
still, i made her swim two miles to get me a beer and some ice cream.

gay?
well, i'm no fan of being PC by any means, but i'll say it looks like a girly phone. buttons look stupid and i hate the blue hue, so i got my girl a black herald instead and think it looks much better.
so, not "gay" but stupid. the SC430, Celica, certain Nokias are also girly looking, but still look good. no such luck for the Wing, especially when compared to all of american carriers' htc offerings. and yes, the MDA is the second ugliest of them all as well

yarod_g14 said:
First off, this forum is populated (mostly - I hope) by sensible adults.
Back to the topic:
I think that the best devices are probably:
HTC Athena (If you want a Big power House - GPS-VGA-Ati Video Card-Huge screen)
HTC Kaiser (If you want a small power House - GPS - Fast Processor)
HTC Touch (smallest PPC I have ever seen) (Popular with Ladies/if u only want to use phone/Pim functions and value battery life)
Dell Axim X51V (If you want the best Graphically Accelerated device available)
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I've got a Dell Axim and know it is sturdy and a lovely pda but it is not a phone and i am selling mine now just because I've got too many toys (can one have too many toys? My hubby thinks so)...and I was after another toy, so it's got to go...so sorry to let it go (no smilies here for very sad!)
I've bought it to try linux but could never get a decent distro for it as I am a very beginner on using linux. Also I've fancied wowing people with connecting it to a lcd projector for presentations without a computer!
I am planning to get an Ubiquio 503 because of the form factor but I've heard it's got ROM issues.

The "blue hue" is a rubber like material that makes it hold on to the surface of your car's dashboard, etc. It's actually quite useful. Black would have been better, but they wanted to be different. At least they didn't use their signature pink...
EDIT: The Wing also feels a good deal sturdier than the MDA it replaced.

So true
ivanmmj said:
The "blue hue" is a rubber like material that makes it hold on to the surface of your car's dashboard, etc. It's actually quite useful. Black would have been better, but they wanted to be different. At least they didn't use their signature pink...
EDIT: The Wing also feels a good deal sturdier than the MDA it replaced.
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Thats would have suked! lol

Sorry
yarod_g14 said:
First off, this forum is populated (mostly - I hope) by sensible adults.
Your use of the word 'Gay' in an obviously detrimental way would probably not be so welcome. It certainly isn't from me.
I know, lots of stupid kids and even dumb adults use it in that way but, you are grown up enough to know that you want a windows mobile device and not an 'Iphone' or some other hyped rubbish.
I would reccomend you utilise your maturity when thinking of ways to show your disaproval. Honestly, it should generally make you more popular to *sensible* people.
Back to the topic:
I think that the best devices are probably:
HTC Athena (If you want a Big power House - GPS-VGA-Ati Video Card-Huge screen)
HTC Kaiser (If you want a small power House - GPS - Fast Processor)
HTC Touch (smallest PPC I have ever seen) (Popular with Ladies/if u only want to use phone/Pim functions and value battery life)
Dell Axim X51V (If you want the best Graphically Accelerated device available)
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I didnt know you were a homosexual! Sorry for using that term!

yarod_g14 said:
First off, this forum is populated (mostly - I hope) by sensible adults.
Your use of the word 'Gay' in an obviously detrimental way would probably not be so welcome. It certainly isn't from me.
I know, lots of stupid kids and even dumb adults use it in that way but, you are grown up enough to know that you want a windows mobile device and not an 'Iphone' or some other hyped rubbish.
I would reccomend you utilise your maturity when thinking of ways to show your disaproval. Honestly, it should generally make you more popular to *sensible* people.
Back to the topic:
I think that the best devices are probably:
HTC Athena (If you want a Big power House - GPS-VGA-Ati Video Card-Huge screen)
HTC Kaiser (If you want a small power House - GPS - Fast Processor)
HTC Touch (smallest PPC I have ever seen) (Popular with Ladies/if u only want to use phone/Pim functions and value battery life)
Dell Axim X51V (If you want the best Graphically Accelerated device available)
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I completely agree with you in this matter, but honestly people in this world need to stop being so "sensitive". The problem with this world is that there are too many ******* and whine and complain about anything that is offensive to them. Some people just need to learn to man up and take a blow to the stomach rather than whining after someone used a deragatory term.

I am perfectly happy with the WING... which I bought to replace my MDA which sucked. I'd love to get a Kaiser next, but I'm perfectly happy with my WING and I don't think its "gay" by any means.... I'm sure the people over in the herald forum would agree.

duprade said:
I am perfectly happy with the WING... which I bought to replace my MDA which sucked. I'd love to get a Kaiser next, but I'm perfectly happy with my WING and I don't think its "gay" by any means.... I'm sure the people over in the herald forum would agree.
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....Agreed

If having a wing is gay, then consider me a FLAMING HOMOSEXUAL. Because I effin love my wing.
Im waiting for 3rd party companies to start making some REPLACEABLE plastic for the phone, like perhaps a black "soft gay" back piece instead of the blue.

I guess once you go black "soft gay" you don't go back. I'm looking forward to new "soft gay" parts for my gay Wing.
TylerC161 said:
If having a wing is gay, then consider me a FLAMING HOMOSEXUAL. Because I effin love my wing.
Im waiting for 3rd party companies to start making some REPLACEABLE plastic for the phone, like perhaps a black "soft gay" back piece instead of the blue.
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duprade said:
I guess once you go black "soft gay" you don't go back. I'm looking forward to new "soft gay" parts for my gay Wing.
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Im gay with excitement; no doubt.

LOL!
Its because of where I live and where I work, with Law. I consider use of these sorts of terms as bad as it gets. Its not about being politically correct, its about knowing different types of people and actually caring about the language I use because I know what I say will affect different people in different ways.
I remember one of my mates would call everything cheap or anyone who was tight a 'Jew' or 'jewish'.
I just dont think its nice or necesary. It shows that you are ignorant in regards to the different ways in which people think. Its nothing to do with being politically correct.
Anyway, thats your problem not mine regardless if you like men or ladies.....or Wings
My girlfriend agrees with me.
So does my other Jewish mate.
Everyone has to grow up at some point. This is offensive to me. If it was a racial slur I am sure people would not tolerate it.

Lolol
This actually reminds me of the sorts of posts that you get on the www.qj.net quick comment box's. Hundreds and thousands of kids all screaming your PS3 is PWned, your 360 is Gay.....
God damn it pisses me off!
Gets up my nose when I see it in my fav community.

Dr J said:
still, i made her swim two miles to get me a beer and some ice cream.
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Er how did she carry them back to you?

Okay, what shoudl this thread title be?
I see that the first poster caused offence by using the word "gay" but I wonder what other word he could have used to articulate what he meant. I am pretty sure he wasn't trying to offend the gay community in his post. He's just seen that this device looks a bit, well, erm, - what are you supposed to say without causing offence?
Effeminate? Camp?
I'd be interested in what words should be used in this context!

Gajet said:
Er how did she carry them back to you?
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no idea, she never made it back.
nobody scratches my screen and gets away with it

The "Fuze"?

This may be old news to some, but didn't see anyone talking about it...
AT&T Fuze

I heard the word "Fusion" mentioned before in this forum, but more important is the tip it may be released sooner rather than later. I purchased the UK version already and I don't even know if it will work with 3G. I guess it pays to be patient

So does anyone know what att has crippled besides the front camera this time? FM radio still there?

its not old news it just came out like today. supposedly out by september but i cant find confirmation of that
and the guy who bought an att one said he cant find FM radio but that could be just software blocked and no front camera
everything else should be there

I'm so waiting for the Fuze. With contact, the price is soo much better. I'm going to say that everyone is crazy in my eyes that spends $1000 on a phone. Do you guys seriously earn $200k+ a year? Or just have worthless cash lying around?

well kraize, it's kind of like women who spend so much at shopping. except we only do it once a year. do you think we're crazy now?

auriken said:
well kraize, it's kind of like women who spend so much at shopping. except we only do it once a year. do you think we're crazy now?
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Yes. Because women are crazy. We're sane.

Kraize92 said:
I'm so waiting for the Fuze. With contact, the price is soo much better. I'm going to say that everyone is crazy in my eyes that spends $1000 on a phone. Do you guys seriously earn $200k+ a year? Or just have worthless cash lying around?
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Well this is fairly simple at least in my case. What i would do is buy the HTC Touch Pro and buy the fuze and then unlock it and sell it for the price of the touch pro or close to it and then you got the HTC version basically for the price of the fuze. :-D
Most people who are going to want this probably already used up the whole contract discount to get the At&t tilt so they aren't up for a upgrade for another year so either way they are paying an arm and a leg for a new phone. I think 1000 dollars for a camera, video player, internet device, mp3 player is a steal!!! That doesn't even include all the other random crap you can do with ur phone... Like compile C/C++ code :-D

A steal??? Seriously? I can pay $550/$650. $1k is just too much. I could do soo much more with those $300. Build a computer, buy something useful, etc... You could buy it and sell it for the price of a regular touch pro but that wouldn't work. No front camera, ptt button, a bit different/crippled somehow. I would probably sell my tilt for $350 and shell out $200. 200 doesn't seem like much to me vs the $1k/500% more that people are paying to get a Touch Pro.

A steal??? Seriously? I can pay $550/$650. $1k is just too much. I could do soo much more with those $300. Build a computer, buy something useful, etc... You could buy it and sell it for the price of a regular touch pro but that wouldn't work. No front camera, ptt button, a bit different/crippled somehow. I would probably sell my tilt for $350 and shell out $200. 200 doesn't seem like much to me vs the $1k/500% more that people are paying to get a Touch Pro.

I don't know who is paying 1k for the touch pro. I can buy one right now for 840. I can definitely see myself selling the fuze for around 7 or 8 hundred without a problem and i would still have my kaiser to sell if chose to, which i won't. And you can build a computer for 1k but then ur paying 1k for somethign that will suck and will not be as portable either. I guess my point is ur buying like 8 devices in one. Seems like a great deal to me. I use my kaiser to its full capability so i can see the use of these great phones. And playing with all these new devices landed me a job with Apple :-D
Yea i know i'm gonna work for apple but i will never own an iphone lol.

wshader said:
So does anyone know what att has crippled besides the front camera this time? FM radio still there?
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FM radio is not there, nor is the G-sensor calibration tool (can be downloaded). There is a push to talk button on the left side.

Bxsteez said:
I don't know who is paying 1k for the touch pro. I can buy one right now for 840. I can definitely see myself selling the fuze for around 7 or 8 hundred without a problem and i would still have my kaiser to sell if chose to, which i won't. And you can build a computer for 1k but then ur paying 1k for somethign that will suck and will not be as portable either. I guess my point is ur buying like 8 devices in one. Seems like a great deal to me. I use my kaiser to its full capability so i can see the use of these great phones. And playing with all these new devices landed me a job with Apple :-D
Yea i know i'm gonna work for apple but i will never own an iphone lol.
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$550/$650 still better than $840.

That is true it is better but then you are stuck with these limitations. But lets be perfectly honest no one only buys things they need. And its far from a useless buy if you use it regularly as more than a phone. Of course if you buy the HTC version and never use FM Radio and never use the front facing camera that you should just wait and hope that the fuze is sold for less than 800. I think its a cool device and would pay 1k without a problem and if i then think its a waste can always sell it.

Bxsteez said:
That is true it is better but then you are stuck with these limitations. But lets be perfectly honest no one only buys things they need. And its far from a useless buy if you use it regularly as more than a phone. Of course if you buy the HTC version and never use FM Radio and never use the front facing camera that you should just wait and hope that the fuze is sold for less than 800. I think its a cool device and would pay 1k without a problem and if i then think its a waste can always sell it.
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True true. AT&T has yet to implant video calling and I use FM radio so that should be cool if I can activate it in the Fuze. I could use the front camera as a mirror The fuze IS going to be sold for less than $800. I know this for a fact. AT&T phones /w contract are NEVER over $600. I think the max I saw a phone for was when the Tilt first came out for $500? Or was it $550? Well I guess from your point of view $1k is worth it, but from a 15 year old kid's point of view $1k is a lot of money. I only buy things I need I use my tilt for a lot of things. I didn't just buy it thinking, "Omgawd it's so kool I want it." But I guess I'm just one of the select few that were raised right I kid. I bet some people make/saved/got enough to pay for the Touch Pro.

Well i would have to say you are using need very loosely. I don't think u needed a tilt to sustain life. Its something u wanted. You could've bought a razor so i think ur using need very loosely. I dunno about the fuze being less than 600 without contract which is how i would assume most people who bought the tilt will be buying it.

Everyone has different needs. I need to do work. I need to use it's calendar. I need my music to live my life I use most of the tilt's features. I use office mobile to do my homework most of the time where a laptop is not accessible. I use music when I'm not so calm and might <sarcasm> kill somoene </sarcasm> I use wi-fi to talk to my friends ocassionally and help others with stuff as I do tech support as a job. I use the calendar to keep me in check since I'm so busy to remember everything. I use the touchscreen to write notes and keep them safe. I think you're wrong. Everyone that is here right now that has 200+ posts...needs a phone to sustain life. I'll bet you there is not one person here that can live without a phone with pda features. I was actually thinking that I'd sell my Tilt now and use a razr that is lying around in my house, but I know I can't live without the touchscreen and all the features that keep me in check so I won't. At least not until I have my hands on another pda phone.

Kraize92 said:
I use office mobile to do my homework most of the time where a laptop is not accessible.
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Are you serious dude? Wow...a hard working kid for sure

anandoc said:
Are you serious dude? Wow...a hard working kid for sure
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Rofl not really hardworking. More like lazy and forgetful. I did a major essay twice in school that same day it was due. Put a bt keyboard out, started to type, emailed it to myself, opened in library, edited, printed, turned in 2 hours later. And believe it or not, I got a well 95% ish on those two essays.

I guess that is the idea. U have to know the difference between what you feel and what is real. You don't need a phone to live. U want one to live the way u want. There was plenty of life before the microchip was even made lol.. don't get me wrong i don't ever wanna go without my hi tech computer in my hands whenever i want it but that is not a necessity for life.
Hw on ur phone hmmmm must not be doing much math hw on there. hehe...
i use to do some C programming on my phone when i was in college and yea it was for the same reason lazy and forgetful lol

FREE! (at last)

Today I sold my ****C Touch Cruise and returned to an humble Nokia (blasphemy!).
Suddenly, I'm receiveing ALL the calls, NO drops, NO reboots, NO freezes, NO hassles at all.
I'd wish to thank ****C very much for having wasted my money (lot of).
I will never buy an ****C device again, nor their OEM-based products.
Just my (wasted) 300 euros....
a.e.

bye bye~ have good time with nokia!!

Adios amigos.

What can I say? Great!

yes, bye bye see you

Good luck
If you'd just pick good rom everything would work great
HTC its great technology but not for simple users, guess it was too complicated for you
And of cousre theres not even comparison between nokias and htc - nokia just simple phone and htc is little computer
Nokia has almost no problems but also it has 1/10 features of HTC
Have fun
"receiveing ALL the calls, NO drops, NO reboots, NO freezes, NO hassles at all"
and you forgot - no features AT ALL

When configured properly a HTC would be good. It just doesn't run great out of the box. Nokia has great mobiles too. It really depends on what you want, the risk you're willing to take with problem solving, and your tolerance on lots of reboots. I personally just can't handle how HTC rushes billions of different phone models out right after I buy my phone... Ah well, that's just how the world goes.

I don't know what you guys are talking about. It seems pretty clear that his issues were not with "tweaking the phone". Most non-oem ROMS have a few kinks or bugs, however a stock phone works just fine. His phone should have run perfectly out of the box.
He clearly had a defective unit...

angelearth said:
Today I sold my ****C Touch Cruise and returned to an humble Nokia (blasphemy!).
Suddenly, I'm receiveing ALL the calls, NO drops, NO reboots, NO freezes, NO hassles at all.
I'd wish to thank ****C very much for having wasted my money (lot of).
I will never buy an ****C device again, nor their OEM-based products.
Just my (wasted) 300 euros....
a.e.
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Poor you... ****C scared the ****C out of you! Not for the weak hearted I guess.

An out-of-the-box HTC as flaws and kinks?!?!Are you guys crazy???
It would be the HTC suicide to launch devices with problems out-of-the-box.
I already had 1 Qtek and 2 HTC(using Polaris) and never had problems with them,unless i cause the problem with tweaks and customization.
Its because of idiots like this guy companies like HTC are affraid to release all the technology,most users cant understand and start whinning that it sucks.
Ear say is still the biggest publicity tool,and companies cant afford many of these idiots complaining.

ZED_pt said:
An out-of-the-box HTC as flaws and kinks?!?!Are you guys crazy???
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Oh, I might be crazy... but my first Polaris had defective BT and WiFi... out-of-the-box!
But I have requested replacement and got it. The rest is history...
And BTW, like all computers with Windows, Polaris needs reset from time to time too...
Nokia does not... but Nokia's are not computers IMHO...

that was a defect it happens with everything made in serial construction...thats why we have warranty...but is not a norm

bnm7bnm said:
If you'd just pick good rom everything would work great
HTC its great technology but not for simple users, guess it was too complicated for you
And of cousre theres not even comparison between nokias and htc - nokia just simple phone and htc is little computer
Nokia has almost no problems but also it has 1/10 features of HTC
Have fun
"receiveing ALL the calls, NO drops, NO reboots, NO freezes, NO hassles at all"
and you forgot - no features AT ALL
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i definitely agree
i definitely agree

angelearth said:
Today I sold my ****C Touch Cruise and returned to an humble Nokia (blasphemy!).
Suddenly, I'm receiveing ALL the calls, NO drops, NO reboots, NO freezes, NO hassles at all.
I'd wish to thank ****C very much for having wasted my money (lot of).
I will never buy an ****C device again, nor their OEM-based products.
Just my (wasted) 300 euros....
a.e.
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Enjoy ur symbian ****... I'm going for Android...

HTC is for pro's.. that's all.. who's not able to use it.. use nokia..

you why it is NOKIA??? Because of NO Kia....
that NO is simple for me...
enjoy ****Bian for ****brains.... (sorry for my words)

Wise mcmike_cz
Hey mcmike_cz, i make mine your words!

i need help disabeling my sprint mogul... heres why...

ok so i went to a sprint store...
he told me, that if i manage to mess my phone up beyond repair,
internally, it will be replaced by the Touch Pro...
he said it cant be water damage, and it cant be fixable by installing a rom.
and it cant be cosmetic damage such as a screen, or volume wheel.
it has to be unable to make and receve calls or txt messages.
i dont know what to do... but i want a new phone, and i know somone knows how to fry this phone... without throwing it at a wall.
that doesent work. already tried that. hada pay 50 bux for the insurance for a replacement...
it still has to be able to turn on, and look good, but not work yah dig?
and i wouldnt concider this any type of criminal act, just a smart way around a loophole?
i mean the sprint guy knows whats up! but he didnt know how i can make it so it doesent make and recieve calls or messages... Anyone got a groovie idea>?

Pay for the upgrade or wait for it to legitimately break.
Dishonesty is not appreciated here.

I hate seeing these kinds of posts. Man - Just save up your pennies like the rest of us and buy one when you have enough money.

wow.
concidering the dude at the sprint store TOLD me i should do it... i would definatly not concider it dishonest.
iv you dont like it, you need not reply.
iv had sprint for 8 years and iv only had 2 phones.
UNFORTUNATLY, i only get 75 bux off a new phone. which leaves a new T.P in the area of 500 somthin.
so i asked for ideas, on how to mess with my phones acceptance of the cellular network...
not stupid ass whiney remarks about dishonesty.
join the ****ing marines.

I can't see the problem. If sprint are willing to replace your phone after frying it, it's their issue. you can fry your phone up.. any way you like. short circuit it... throw it in a glass.. or whatever.
It isn't illegal to ruin your phone. it's your business and your business only. what happens afterwards.. are the concequenes.

I need as much help on this question as possible.

Hi guys.
Currently i walk around with a G1 in my hands. It's rooted with the latest jf version. I've had this phone since it came out and i like. Now here is where things are getting tricky. Two months ago, i received a promotion at work. I am now the administrative assistant at my company. I know people say that is just a glorified secretary but definitely not the case here. I run projects for my boss analyzing the amount of business we bring in and which one of our competitors is taking away our business. i tend to us Microsoft outlook daily alon with word, excel and powerpoint. (me and access can't get along). My sweet,sweet g1 is not up to snuff. It's a cool phone, but for what i'm doing, it lacks the software and syncability i need. (prove me wrong on this one if you can).
So, to all at xda, i'd like you to point me in the right direction for a true business phone. The is no limitation on provider, at most 300 dollars (before rebate and with a new customer 2 year plan with a provider other then T-mobile). I have to be able to edit and view Microsoft documents. A good amount of internal memory or an expandable slot. A physical keyboard. I need a proverbial work horse who when i say jump, ask me how high. Now any suggestions don't necessarily have to be out now. if there is a great phone coming out within 2 months (like the touch pro 2), i can wait. But i can't wait past august 15th. guys, i really need your help with this one. I just don't have time to go around and test so many phone. I like to run a potential phone through it's paces for 4 days before i decide on keeping it(love t-mobile for letting me do that. one week i tested the slide, blackberry curve, pearl, wing and dash) So guys please, help me out. Thanks
sidenote- why do phone company's want to make a cell phone so much like a laptop, Why not make a small laptop that can make phone calls. most professionals today carry briefcases and bags and push come to shove, they can use bluetooth.

rickyteddyb said:
Hi guys.
Currently i walk around with a G1 in my hands. It's rooted with the latest jf version. I've had this phone since it came out and i like. Now here is where things are getting tricky. Two months ago, i received a promotion at work. I am now the administrative assistant at my company. I know people say that is just a glorified secretary but definitely not the case here. I run projects for my boss analyzing the amount of business we bring in and which one of our competitors is taking away our business. i tend to us Microsoft outlook daily alon with word, excel and powerpoint. (me and access can't get along). My sweet,sweet g1 is not up to snuff. It's a cool phone, but for what i'm doing, it lacks the software and syncability i need. (prove me wrong on this one if you can).
So, to all at xda, i'd like you to point me in the right direction for a true business phone. The is no limitation on provider, at most 300 dollars (before rebate and with a new customer 2 year plan with a provider other then T-mobile). I have to be able to edit and view Microsoft documents. A good amount of internal memory or an expandable slot. A physical keyboard. I need a proverbial work horse who when i say jump, ask me how high. Now any suggestions don't necessarily have to be out now. if there is a great phone coming out within 2 months (like the touch pro 2), i can wait. But i can't wait past august 15th. guys, i really need your help with this one. I just don't have time to go around and test so many phone. I like to run a potential phone through it's paces for 4 days before i decide on keeping it(love t-mobile for letting me do that. one week i tested the slide, blackberry curve, pearl, wing and dash) So guys please, help me out. Thanks
sidenote- why do phone company's want to make a cell phone so much like a laptop, Why not make a small laptop that can make phone calls. most professionals today carry briefcases and bags and push come to shove, they can use bluetooth.
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Take a look at the HTC x7510
Dirk

thanks
thank dirlan. If i could find that for 350, i'd be very happy. But the 899 price tag i see floating around is just killing me.

rickyteddyb said:
thank dirlan. If i could find that for 350, i'd be very happy. But the 899 price tag i see floating around is just killing me.
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Very sad you live in the US In Europe , the boss would be the one that pays for it ...
Dirk

would go for the touch pro, very comfortable phone with its 5 row keyboard imo and not very expensive, or wait for the touch pro 2. The main problem with the tp2 is that its very big. big and expensive. Besides the winmo phones, the only other option would be a blackberry, like the curve. Since you already tested it, you got to decide yourself which platform is the one of your choice ;-) blackberries are usually easier to get along with but by far not as powerful as the winmo devices But blackberries run muuuch longer on battery power, if thats necessary to you.
Sidenote: To get a nice office suite for blackberries, theres no way around but to pay for one. Only readers are included. Thats an advantage with winmo ;-)
I had a Blackberry Curve and Flip, and have now switched to a Touch Pro and Touch HD. Battery life is good enough, but not nearly as comfortable as with the bbs. But I really love the devices in terms of expandability, thats why I would never trade them back in - but thats not a reasonable factor if you havent got time to mod and tune your device