1st TEST:
This is the result about the speed between 4 ROMs: Helmi_C (Clean+Bigstorage), Sleuth V1.1, XDA-Live 1.1 and Dutty SupaLite Beta. All have been installed the same programs.
The benchmark has been done by SKTools with 3 Kaiser devices! I took the average benchmark.
For your information!
2nd TEST:
As promised, I have just tested 4 ROMs with Spb Benchmark. The result is very clear and detail (pic 2, 3, 4, 5). All ROMs have not been installed with any soft except Spb Benchmark and SOTI Pocket Controller.
3th TEST:
Pic 6 is the result of CUSTEL v1.0!
wow, thanks for the work! That's good stuff to know.
I'd have thought that Dutty's was the fastest, but doesnt look to be so. With those numbers I'd say you'll never "see" a difference though.
Nice job man. There a a ton of people always asking that question. This should be a sticky.
Later, Lew
Could you elaborate a bit on the meaning of the numbers
SPB Benchmark would give you a more in depth comparison.
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SPB Benchmark would give you a more in depth comparison.
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Thanks for your suggestion! I will try and report soon!
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This is the result about the speed between 4 ROMs: Helmi_C (Clean+Bigstorage), Sleuth V1.1, XDA-Live 1.1 and Dutty SupaLite Beta. All have been installed the same programs.
The benchmark has been done by SKTools with 3 Kaiser devices! I took the average benchmark.
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The numbers are within the statistic difference and I don't believe it is perceivable in real life operation. In other words, they are all about the same. But each ROM comes with different features. I hope the stability of each ROM are about the same. Stability is the most important factor. I have had machine hung on me during the most critical moment.
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The numbers are within the statistic difference and I don't believe it is perceivable in real life operation. In other words, they are all about the same. But each ROM comes with different features. I hope the stability of each ROM are about the same. Stability is the most important factor. I have had machine hung on me during the most critical moment.
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Agreed that those numbers could not show the real performance of each ROM. But I do not think that the stability is the same in those ROMs.
As per CUSTEL' suggestion, I am testing those ROMs with Spb Benchmark. The result seems to be different that the one from SKTools! We all can see the result tonight!
i'd have to say, when i was using kyphur's XDA LIVE, it was the snappiest among all, only it was designed for non video call device enabled
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i'd have to say, when i was using kyphur's XDA LIVE, it was the snappiest among all, only it was designed for non video call device enabled
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It was very difficult to say. I strolled around a phone store and saw a TyTN II and started playing with it. Wow, it was very fast and I was impressed. It was flashed with a CHS ROM. I offer to pay them to sell me a copy of the ROM. However, the machine hang a couple of times during my playing with it. Well that is without tons of other stuff installed and I really didn't think its stability is there yet. So much for my excitement, but it does show the machine can be fast if someone know what to tweak.
Thanks for this thread I realise I messed up somewhere in my performance tweaks.
Can someone do another tests on my Touchflo final Rom 2 which is uploading now and also my SupaLite beta 2 which I'm uploading a fixed version soon. I found out my Rom should be faster thank you guys for putting this tests out, enabling me to found out that I did something wrong in my performance tweaks and now the toucFlo Final rom which is uploading is much faster now even with more Program memory
i have try all roms for kaizer and i agree that helmi_c's roms are still the faster and better roms till now
i use the helmi_c clean rom and is far away the best!!
another very good rom is sleuth's 1.1!this rom is too very fast and stable and with all htc official stuff in
both,helmi_c and sleuth,are a step infront all the others at this moment
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Thanks for this thread I realise I messed up somewhere in my performance tweaks.
Cand now the toucFlo Final rom which is uploading is much faster now even with more Program memory
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we'll give it a shot dutty keep walking my friend
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we'll give it a shot dutty keep walking my friend
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thanks friend you will be in for a surprise The Final rom which is uploading now is much faster than my supaLite Rom, just fixing the SupaLite beta 2 now
I think SPEED is second to Stability.... I think a fair test should also have ROM stability measures. i.e. crashes, connectivity, call drops, program load, display and presentation, programs, battery Life, and reception.
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I think SPEED is second to Stability.... I think a fair test should also have ROM stability measures. i.e. crashes, connectivity, call drops, program load, display and presentation, programs, battery Life, and reception.
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TOTALLY AGRRE with that thats why I try to balance this with all my roms .
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I think SPEED is second to Stability.... I think a fair test should also have ROM stability measures. i.e. crashes, connectivity, call drops, program load, display and presentation, programs, battery Life, and reception.
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i agree with you my friend.the most wanted in cooking is both,stability and speed!! but those 2 are oposite to battery life
The best rom that worked for me is Rom Version 1.57.502.2 ,Pr version 22.45.88.07H i got it from one of these form, its very stable, very fast and it was cooked. so try finding this one and get it for tilt, its just remove all the junk leave you with lots of free space and you upload the sotware you want, bye. oh radio version 1.27.12.11
The 'famous' ROMs (Helmi_C Bigstorage, Dutty SupaLite Beta 1, Sleuth 1.1, XDA-Live 1.1) have been re-tested with Spb Benchmark.
The result can be seen at the 1st post!
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The 'famous' ROMs (Helmi_C Bigstorage, Dutty SupaLite Beta 1, Sleuth 1.1, XDA-Live 1.1) have been re-tested with Spb Benchmark.
The result can be seen at the 1st post!
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how about a test with CUSTEL v1.0?
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Hi all,
I'm wondering how many other people dislike the speed of the Kaiser. I've tried all the roms on here, and in my eyes it just doesn't seem to be as fast as it should be; the hardware is a big jump over the Wizard, and the Touch, and yet this sometimes feels like it's the same speed.
I tend to think my Hermes ran better than my Kaiser, albeit without the built in GPS.
Am I alone on this? Does anyone have any helpful tips (beyond running all the performance settings up in Advanced Config, or similar). I'm talking about freezing during use, missing keys when typing emails or messages, lagging in IE, and slowness switching apps.
you can increase the speed by upping the cache. I think the advanced editing app will allow you to do this. kaiser is fast...after tweaks.
My opinion, but my Tilt -- with a stock ROM -- blows the doors off my old TyTN -- even when it was completely tweaked out.
Of course YMMV...
with Dutty Hybrid rom no 4 it's fast.... I'm pretty pleased with the performance compared to any other rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342500
Faster than TyTN for sure. There's one more tweak I need to check out though....
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Faster than TyTN for sure. There's one more tweak I need to check out though....
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Would be nice if you could list your tweaks here. Thanks!
Oh yes, I am disappointed about its graphical speed, but we all know this is due to the fact that HTC didn't make any driver for the integrated 2d/3d accelerator.
For the rest, browsing the web and other uses, I think the speed is OK (but not exceptional) once you have used the tweak utility you can find here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333898
download the utility, run it on your Kaiser, and modify all the "cache" parameters.
coming from a wizard...this is super fast. Wait til we are able to change page pools.
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Faster than TyTN for sure. There's one more tweak I need to check out though....
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One more tweak?? You mean beyond your speedoptimizer cab? Do tell!
My Kaiser is definately faster than my 8525, no question.
Whats the best rom to use on my tilt to get the best battery life?
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Whats the best rom to use on my tilt to get the best battery life?
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In my opinion any ROM that has the build 19199.
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In my opinion any ROM that has the build 19199.
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In my opinion: not Rom, it's radio version which you use.
of all roms i have try in my kaiser the best one is this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379411
For me I am back for the 5th time to Sleuth V3 for baterry life
hi,
in terms of battery life, the best build is 19199, in my case with niki radio .1.58.16.27...
cheers
For me build 19199 - dutty's.
Radio also affects battery life greatly, but using the same radio with different roms in the last few days 19199 gives the best battery life.
But i have not tested with Dutty's new Hybrid rom launched last night - will be installing that later today.
Does that mean we should flash to old ROM from dutty's Build 19716 to get best battery life ?
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Does that mean we should flash to old ROM from dutty's Build 19716 to get best battery life ?
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Try it out a see what you think. I just know for me that ROM gave me the best battery life
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In my opinion: not Rom, it's radio version which you use.
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Yes, but the ROM also has a lot do with it.
I concur - 19199 gave me an IMPRESSIVE increase in battery life, to the point that I stopped downloading other ROMs...
i suggest: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368330
upgraded today...lifetime battery is the best that i've ever seen...(in R0 release, i mean )
This thread has just proven its self to be useless. There are way to many variables, such as rom, radio, location, apps running/installed for someone to give an answer. THis is just a personal preference question. Figure it out for yourself like everyone else has done.
I have a suggestion, flash away until you find one that fits your needs and for the love of GOD, quit making new threads that ask questions that everyone will give answers to based on personal preferences.
Why oh why?
P1Tater said:
This thread has just proven its self to be useless. There are way to many variables, such as rom, radio, location, apps running/installed for someone to give an answer. THis is just a personal preference question. Figure it out for yourself like everyone else has done.
I have a suggestion, flash away until you find one that fits your needs and for the love of GOD, quit making new threads that ask questions that everyone will give answers to based on personal preferences.
Why oh why?
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I think this thread is helpful for newbies like me...
I´m testing the battery lifetime with the help of a tool called BattBench.
First of all, I put the device into flight mode, turn all lights down an then I test rom by rom to see which has the best battery performance, independent from radio, apps etc. (no apps are installed).
I got the best result with Duttys Hybrid rom, right now I´m testing his updated version, if it has the same result as his previous one, I will test this rom by changing radio rom by radio rom.
Dutty's new Hybrid Rom has especially good battery life.
yesterday loaded 19199 Full. the navigation isnt smooth as 19716. is there anything I am missing ?
When I want to scroll thru contacts 19716. I can scroll using my finger itself but 19199 doesnt respond, need to tap every time. I really want to use 19199 but with out the touch sensitivity i think its really hard to take out the stylus everytime to tap.
Any idea how to make the touch screen more responsive ?
im using Crossbow Reloaded because i read that it was good in battery life which i need
but i also read that Core 2.0n is also good in battery life
WHAT IS THE BEST ROM FOR BATTERY LIFE????
Avoidt using GSM 3.xxx & above
Basically WM 6.1 has good battery life btw u can try these rom's having verygood battery life
TNT the .19XXXX series and .20XXX series by ITS RIGHT
AMP v2 by CHARACTER
xda2haseeb's wm 6.1 roms also has good battery life
Also you can enable power management by advanced config tool which improves battery life and some rom's comes with all the power management enabled by default.
Battery life depends on what ROM and applications you are running with it! Mostly it is user dependent, and location too! So just keep trying different ROM until you find the one it matches your needs.
I have Final Final Angel by RoryB/SVI
I just loaded Final Final Angel by SVI/RoryB. - OS (no IPL/SPL) and have radio rom 2.71.11
Is it a good one?
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I just loaded Final Final Angel by SVI/RoryB. - OS (no IPL/SPL) and have radio rom 2.71.11
Is it a good one?
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I have the same device and so far this RADIO has least missed calls and good battery life. I'm using WM 6.5
Good luck!
radichev said:
I have the same device and so far this RADIO has least missed calls and good battery life. I'm using WM 6.5
Good luck!
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Thanks for the info Radichev. Can you tell me if the OS that you are using is good and fast? So far the one I have 6.1 pro is fast and good.
im using the rom called FINAL FINAL ANGEL
its really good
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Thanks for the info Radichev. Can you tell me if the OS that you are using is good and fast? So far the one I have 6.1 pro is fast and good.
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It's fast but hasn't got much extras. However, it has around 30Mb free RAM so it's useful for web browsing and other "memory eaters". I recommend you to try Cracing or XDA2 roms, both good, on my device the Cracing was faster, but it also depends on the build. Try any of them, you can easily change it if you don't like it.
P.S. I've never tried WM 6.1 so I can't say anything about it. It may be better in some way but I don't know.
Good luck!
Hi Everyone
I have a P4350 and i want a fast and beautiful rom could you help me please?if be touch-flo it's very good ;
FASTER AND FASTER AND FASTER ROM PLEASE
Why not give my TribU2U Roms a try.
Why not give my TribU2U Roms a try.
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Thanks I download it ,it's very good but it's not very fast
The problem with all WM6.5 roms is that they run out of memory pretty soon. This restricts speed and ability to multitask.
I mean I have not used the new IE for browsing at all, coz I cant. And when I look at task manager - I only have Activesync, Outlook and Contact Manager open.
I know there are background processes and perhaps Phone is the worse culprit with memory leaks ... but the 6.1 ROMS run much better.
I used the FingerMe series, Tribu series, Simply Everything, Gardeners and this morning, reflashed to JustStable V4.
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The problem with all WM6.5 roms is that they run out of memory pretty soon. This restricts speed and ability to multitask.
I mean I have not used the new IE for browsing at all, coz I cant. And when I look at task manager - I only have Activesync, Outlook and Contact Manager open.
I know there are background processes and perhaps Phone is the worse culprit with memory leaks ... but the 6.1 ROMS run much better.
I used the FingerMe series, Tribu series, Simply Everything, Gardeners and this morning, reflashed to JustStable V4.
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Thanks Dear Peter , Could you please give me the best link of wm for p4350(your suggestion )???
True, we are doing the best we can with what we've got. If you're looking for a fast operating software then you have the wrong device. It's not whose OS you have on your device - but which device you have..
If you want fast you need a phone that has a larger bank of memory for programs, not so much storage ram. Then you can change the page-pool for that device to a higher level. You see my TribU2U ROMs are all using 3mb page-pool; it increases the program memory by 5mb. But the downside is it decreases the actual usage speed.
So like I said, if you're looking for speed, you're gonna need to use a different phone, because the Wing/Herald is a very limited in resources.
Especially if you're looking to use TouchFLO - The Wing/Herald devices were not meant for it - They were not even meant for WM6.5. So you're right in saying a WM6.1 ROM would be better for the device.
If you scroll down to the third post in my TribU2U thread you will see that I have made my ROM in all the COMs out there including WM6.1. And they have TouchFLO.
Remember one thing, when you are running more than one process in a Wing/Herald to disable TouchFLO in Settings/HOME >> Items screen. This will give you more memory and speed to work with.
Cheers,
Trib.
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True, we are doing the best we can with what we've got. If you're looking for a fast operating software then you have the wrong device. It's not whose OS you have on your device - but which device you have..
If you want fast you need a phone that has a larger bank of memory for programs, not so much storage ram. Then you can change the page-pool for that device to a higher level. You see my TribU2U ROMs are all using 3mb page-pool; it increases the program memory by 5mb. But the downside is it decreases the actual usage speed.
So like I said, if you're looking for speed, you're gonna need to use a different phone, because the Wing/Herald is a very limited in resources.
Especially if you're looking to use TouchFLO - The Wing/Herald devices were not meant for it - They were not even meant for WM6.5. So you're right in saying a WM6.1 ROM would be better for the device.
If you scroll down to the third post in my TribU2U thread you will see that I have made my ROM in all the COMs out there including WM6.1. And they have TouchFLO.
Remember one thing, when you are running more than one process in a Wing/Herald to disable TouchFLO in Settings/HOME >> Items screen. This will give you more memory and speed to work with.
Cheers,
Trib.
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Dear Trib Thank you very much indeed , yes my device is very old and as i last post your OS is pretty good , if I perturb you ; I apologize to you
Thanks
Tribulattifather said:
So like I said, if you're looking for speed, you're gonna need to use a different phone, because the Wing/Herald is a very limited in resources.
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Trib - most certainly agree with you here. Its not that any of the WM 6.5 are bad. In fact, they are awesome given that you cooks managed to get them running on 64MB Ram, its the RAM is the limiting factor.
WM6.5 is really pushing the Wings resources and again, its great that you have managed a decent stable ROM.
Pete
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Thanks Dear Peter , Could you please give me the best link of wm for p4350(your suggestion )???
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Try v4 from here http://thewingster.com/juststable.aspx
Most stable ROM in my opinion. Lots of Storage and RAM.
Overclock it wee bit and extremely fast too. Feels like a completely different phone
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Try v4 from here http://thewingster.com/juststable.aspx
Most stable ROM in my opinion. Lots of Storage and RAM.
Overclock it wee bit and extremely fast too. Feels like a completely different phone
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Dear Peter Thanks a lot...
I'm using Aserg's rom which is 6.1. I have spb shell on top which gives it a nice finger friendly feel. I have on average 15 megs of free program ram. It is really fast stable and responsive.
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I'm using Aserg's rom which is 6.1. I have spb shell on top which gives it a nice finger friendly feel. I have on average 15 megs of free program ram. It is really fast stable and responsive.
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Hi Exodusoffg - Aserg's has the most beautiful ROM in my opinion. Used it for the majority of the time on my wing. I used to flash opentouch and the other popular ROMS back then and continue to return back to Aserg's because for some reason, the speed and functionality just clicked.
I wish he had continued cooking for Wing/Herald.
Cleaning the forum. This is not development related. Thread closed.
I must of spent hr and hrs trying roms to find the easiest and fastest roms out there. But when you find one that flows nicely and without fc's. How to test which one is faster. I downloaded setcpu and tried to understand it. Now after flashing a rom, I set the phone the exact way for each rom. Exept hero roms( slow) and flashy. I dont need that , my option. I did some tests using setcpu. 10 tests at 528. 384 works great for battery saving(sleep,charging) w/10mb hack.
cyanogen 4.2.14.1 fast avg .... 6.60ms
fasttest 2.3 faster avg .... 6.50ms
fasttest 2.6 fastest avg .... 6.25ms
i'm using task killer,lock,weater wiget,battery widget,setcpu,htmtouch input all ignored. task killer avg 30m
mytouch 3g
I thing this a simple way to test these new rons on who is the fastest. My option.
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I think this a simple way to test these new ROMs to see which is the best, IMO.
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There are many changes you can do to get a lower or higher MS, hero roms usually have a lower MS than a donut ROM. So this isn't full proof.
Dwang 1.17.1: best 571 ms; worst 591 ms
There's no competition, this is the ROM you want if speed and stability is your thing. It's so good Dwang hasn't updated it for a while (there's nothing to improve IMHO).
P.S. this test is not 100% relevant, user experience is the ultimate test but that's hard to compare.
Its personal opinion. I personally love Super D. I stick more with his and Openeclair ROM's so yeah.
..personal opinion.
Open Eclair 1.2.2 is the fastest eclair ROM i've ever run... ever. It's as fast as CM! but it's not out to the general public yet, lol. but yeah just a heads up, grab it as soon as it's out!
Yeah OpenEclair is the best!!! for an Eclair rom