HTC P6500 Pic - General Topics

Got my hands on the new P6500 yesterday and thought i should share a pic.
The quality aint all that since i used my s710...
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Have you tried scanning a barcode?
Have you tried the fingerprint reader?
What is the (outside) size of the phone?

yea i tried the fingerprint scanner. worked ok. a bit anoying when you dont really need it. this far i think its an average PDA with a good camera and the sec level on max. its a fat mofo ... size like the tytn II ... but then this one doesnt have a kbd. No gps, though some software was included.
could actually try to give a proper report on this one just for you guys.
Post me what ever you want to know.
ill update on monday.

Me too have one and this is what I have to say :
-The screen is not bright but antiglare and hence looks clear in sunlight
-Works very good with 1GB Internal Movinanad,1GB SD and 2GB SD in respective slots.
-I had issues with Wi Fi, but I guess SK tools optimised registry an now is solved.
-Apps installed, Opera,Battery Status, NetFront 3.3, Resco Suite, Destinator, Skype,HTC Album.Palringo,TCPMP
-Bootloader can be accessed by Power+OK button and it is same as that of Kaiser, may b POF will help later with CID unlocking though mine is CID unlocked
SEDN100 MFG
SPL-0.71.1000
CPLD-6
-Will post some ROM dumping results here tomorrow.
-Hard Reset can b done by preseeing tow soft keys and Soft reset
-What I hv observed is the memory leak is relatively lower than other HTC handsets.After I close the appas with the given task manager, the % of memory gets back to the original figure ..that of 35%, which is nearly same as when device soft resets and boots.
-Of course a ROM is needed, to make finger print scanner work better.
sensorama said:
yea i tried the fingerprint scanner. worked ok. a bit anoying when you dont really need it. this far i think its an average PDA with a good camera and the sec level on max. its a fat mofo ... size like the tytn II ... but then this one doesnt have a kbd. No gps, though some software was included.
could actually try to give a proper report on this one just for you guys.
Post me what ever you want to know.
ill update on monday.
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Hi, guys, I'm really interested with P6500.
@sensorama and hdubli
how much you pay for it and where you purchase it? I haven't found it in online stores anywhere.
Spec wise, did anyone know the difference between Sirius and Sedna? Because in the pdadb.net, their specs and design are very identical.
Oh, and, did it have extended battery like they say it would have?
About GPS, it does have onboard GPS according to europe.htc.com. What you mean "there is no GPS"? Not activated, no GPS software?

XA-R01 said:
Hi, guys, I'm really interested with P6500.
@sensorama and hdubli
how much you pay for it and where you purchase it? I haven't found it in online stores anywhere.
Spec wise, did anyone know the difference between Sirius and Sedna? Because in the pdadb.net, their specs and design are very identical.
Oh, and, did it have extended battery like they say it would have?
About GPS, it does have onboard GPS according to europe.htc.com. What you mean "there is no GPS"? Not activated, no GPS software?
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There you go. Funny stuff. Will check the GPS on monday.
Btw, got it for testing and eval.

Err... what you mean "funny stuff"? The pda?
Anyway, how would you rate it, 1 to 10?
I've been wanting for a new 3.5" or 4" screen PDA Phone. HP iPAQ 211 have 4" display, but it's not PDA Phone. And O2 XDA Flame, well, sone features that I need is missing and I read lots of negative reviews. So, my next logical solution is P6500 Sirius and P6550 Sedna.
If you could provide an in-depth review of P6500, that would be great.

XA-R01 said:
Err... what you mean "funny stuff"? The pda?
Anyway, how would you rate it, 1 to 10?
I've been wanting for a new 3.5" or 4" screen PDA Phone. HP iPAQ 211 have 4" display, but it's not PDA Phone. And O2 XDA Flame, well, sone features that I need is missing and I read lots of negative reviews. So, my next logical solution is P6500 Sirius and P6550 Sedna.
If you could provide an in-depth review of P6500, that would be great.
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I find it Strange, odd and funny that i didnt notice the GPS. Capish?!
Anywhooo. Ill see what i can do.

GPS works great..tested vito navigator and Destinator 6.11

Does it actually have 256MBs of RAM?!

Holy buttercakes!
This thing is unbelievable! It has everything I ever wanted I think. Does it have an IR port? I was thinking that would be good for a universal remote, but if not no big deal cause one could add that through a sdio slot, right? I would love to test one of these things.....

@sensorama and hdubli
Hi, this is a list of questions that I want to ask you regarding HTC P6500.
1. Maximum video recording resolution and framerate?
For comparison, my HTC P3600 can record video up to 352x288 15fps 384kbps (fps and bitrate info from QuickTime Player).
2. SDHC and high-speed USB 2.0 support?
4. Audio and video playback quality?
For comparison, TyTN II have good audio playback quality and bad video playback performance.
5. Camera and flash quality? Autofocus and Macro mode support?
6. Battery life performance? Overall build quality?
Thanks for the answer.
@cseserv
www.htc.com wrote this:
2D barcode and business card reader applications come from third-party developers and are not pre-installed on the device.

Hi,
Answers to yr questions.I will also try to publish a mini review,
1.Camera has auto focus capabilities so Worldcard Mobile and Quick mark work
2.SDHC support is there, but am not sure USB 2, but the data transfer seems to b faster than kaiser via async and comparable to that with athena
3. Video resolution 320*240 MP4 , fram rate is 5-6,with a facility of autofocus and flash.
4.Battery life is good if not used wi fi and build seems robust

hmm... i guess people in xda-developers not interested enough with the P6500 compared to Touch Slide and Touch Cruise.
@hdubli & sensorama
guys, where's the review you promised?

Dual Charging?
Hi guys,
I have an odd question, but I need an answer, specially from one who knows about electronics behaviour. Ok, here is my case:
I'm in a hurry, have to recharge my device fast. Charging using the charger are more faster than using USB-to-PC cable. But while I'm charging, I also need to access my files. Unfortunately, the device only have 1 USB port. What to do? I bought a HTC Y-Cable that provides me with 2 USB port. Now the question is, if I connect my charger to USB Port #1 and my USB-to-PC cable to USB Port #2, does that mean I'm double charging? And if I am double charging, does that mean the charging duration will be shortened (faster charging)?

105×56×14 мм - ???

Hi guys,
I found HTC P6500 for sale online at mobileplanet.com. They offers 2 version, unlocked and ESP (for US$75 less). Does anybody here know what is ESP version? And what is the difference between ESP and unlocked version?

http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/677810_-p6500-htc.html
If i'm wont change OS GER or WWE in RUS, its realy?

Qualcomm Processor owners you are about to become very popular!
Gentlemen i'm not sure if you're aware but your device is using the same Qualcomm processor and chipset as the HTC Polaris (Touch Cruise) and right now the Sedna is the subject of discussion in the Polaris forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359991&page=33 (look to the bottom of the page).
I am a Polaris owner and am one of the many people who were short-changed by HTC when they crippled our devices by not including Qualcomm Graphics drivers for them.
We have been waiting for HTC to give us some drivers but the prospects looked grim until your device was released vastly outperforming our devices, what i'm getting at is we think your device has the drivers that ours lack and some clever boffins on this site are desperate to get their hands on a dumped Sedna ROM to extract the drivers and see if they can be made to work on our devices.
If one of you were willing to provide a dumped ROM i'm sure the Polaris victims would make it worth your while.
And if not i'm sure there are some people over on the Polaris forum are very interested to talk to you, I guess we are your nearest relatives on the HTC family tree.
Come home son we need your Kidneys!

I've heard its got the 3D drivers ca you try playing a video of a resolution > 320*240and greater than 20fps and see if theres any lag?

Related

Anyone try the Eten Glofiish X500

Has anyone tried the OS on the Glofiish X500.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5793.html
Actually I got this one, and have a few other qteks/ipaqs laying around too.
The screen used is the best screen I've seen in about 7 years of pda using.
Contrast is way higher and sharp, colours are rich.
The display has some colourbleeding though, if you switch from a dark screen to a light screen like the blue today screen you see a vague impression of some of the black parts of the previous screen.
I don't find it annoying at all, I hardly noticed it after a few days using.
It has an internal radio, but you got to use the headset in order to listen to it, the antenna is build into is.
This antenna isn't real sensitive, and the radio signal doesn't get pick up to well except if you use like 80% of it's length.
The device itself has realy been taken care of, aluminium details, rubber back, it a has a touch of quality to it.
You get a leather case with it which is brilliant, though I miss a beltclip on it.
You get many software on it, the best is the phone filter, which you let block certain phone numbers.
You get a battery bar too which is in the programm bar on top, at least they thought of it! But it lacks something like x-button, would have completed it.
Then you got image maker, which makes me think of paint from windows 3.11, no clue why it's there but oh well, did I say you can remove any of these single software pieces? what you don't use you can simply delete to free space So much for the extended roms of other phones of other brands.
Then there's a simple multimedia browser which let's you browse through directories and show pictures and sounds, not to bad either.
Plus there's some image wizard to add borders to pictures etc.
Then there's some mms software, which is pretty nice.
I already mentioned the call filter didn't I?
Then there are 4 profiles called "scenarios" software, it's nice but not real good, but at leat it let's you turn off the sound for a meeting.
Then there's some skype receivers switch which intergartes skype into the software, which is nice, and skype is installed too (which is 5mb and since I don't have a need for it I de-installed as first!)
Then there's some speed dial which is actually pretty nice, big buttons with name + number in it, actually use it a lot while driving.
Then there's some voice commander, though it's funny I never really used it.
The 2 mpx camera in it isn't to bad, one of the better I've seen in pocket pc's, but still it has a long way to go to be able to come close to nokia's (I'm jealous at the lenses they use in it! I really am)
The software for this camera is real good, nice big buttons for the functions and on teh case you got nice buttons to zoom, at exactly the right place.
Fron the back you can't tell if it's a pda or a camera actually!
All by all E-ten has by far the best quality I've ever seen in a pda, and the price is quite right too!
Here in the Netherlands it's only 30 euro more expensive than a htc 3300 which has about the same specs.
I wouldn't have a hard choise if I had ever to choose again between brands, E-ten is THE brand of choise for me.
Just to bad there's no E-ten x50 subforum here, really miss it.
If people want I could try to see if I can get into the extended rom and get all of these nice apps for you people.
Hi. iruja, I would like to try the eten call filtering and also the location sms sounds interesting.
How stable is the eten?
I was told the GPS is horribly slow to get a fix, can you confirm this?
I'll see if I can get into the extended rom later on.
In fact the e-ten is really stable, much more stable and more responsive than my overclocked wizard.
The gps gets turned on as soon as you start tomtom or igo, and I get a fix within 5 sec(!), being outside.
Inside the home it takes some longer, and the signal will drop from time to time to under 3 sattelites, but why would you want to navigate inside your own house anyway? (granted, maybe if you own a caste )
The gps is really sensitive and has no lag, my qtek with an external sirf III gps had a lag of about 30 meters, on my screen I would be before the turn while I was actually passed it, no such thing with the x500, could be because of the faster cpu I don't know, but both gps use the same chipset.
The only place I could think of you would get a bad signal would be around flats and high buildings, but even within Rotterdam I had no problems navigating.
In short, the gps works flawlessly for me, but can't speak for everyone.
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The wizard solutions for unlocking the extended rom won't work on the x500, I'll try other stuff later today, maybe someone has a idea?
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I switched to Tytn after my X500 was repaired two times due to a faulty GPS chip. The motherboard was
replaced both times. It is a nice PDA, but has reliability and ergonomics issues. I' d suggest that you wait for X800 or X500+ , as they may be better thought out VGA devices.
I have also read that Eten will definitely be upgrading their phones to WM6 and will be providing new rom to existing users. Ya it would be great if their was a Eten subforum.
http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=8WBW0PBC
this should be the extended rom with call filter and other stuff in it
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pthomson said:
I have also read that Eten will definitely be upgrading their phones to WM6 and will be providing new rom to existing users. Ya it would be great if their was a Eten subforum.
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the x500 will be re-released as the x500+ soon and although identical in size it will have a VGA screen as well as WM6.
Hi iruja, just downloaded the ext.rom thank you.
I am trying some of the cabs now on my orbit, so hopefully I won't have to reset it too many times.
So far I've tried:
locationSMS, this seamed to work but when I got a GPS fix and hit send it hung for about 2 minutes and then notified me that my message could not be sent. So maybe I need a fix for that.
ScreenKB which I thought might be call screening, but that refused to install at all.
GPS Viewer which looks good and works well on the orbit.
Screen keyboard is a onscreen keyboard 2/3rd the size of the screen which allows you to quickly tap and send sms, quite nice.
Maybe some people can make an all device version of it? like o2 plus?
Have you tried message ease it looks really interesting. I will try it once I get my X500 in a week.
Well I'm just tapping with my fingers and I'm pretty fast with it, I like it better than the other thumb pads around I've seen/used so far.
Just bought one here's a pic.
Next check this will be my new device!! Like the specs, hope hardware issues wont hinder my ownership. I have wanted this device for a month, reading, rereading revues.. Hoping. Then I see pthomson's animated gif. Priceless, and here I sit speechless. Any one know the BEST price in USA?
I found
Item #: X500+
Price: $574.99
Any site better pm me plz
PS there is a forum @ eten for there device.
scarry post for me from yesterday
"Should add the memory leak problem...
Huge problem for me...
Philippe"
Any one else have memory leak issue? Just looking at the animated gif, that looks like a nice LOAD test device.
I have found a little memory loss but not bad at all. I purchased mine on ebay I have seen it sell for under 500.00.

Toshiba G900 is now available!

http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=146074
Handset Only Price: £409.95 (348.89 exc.)
Availability: 1,108 In Stock Now
If you order this product before 4pm today, UK customers could expect delivery Saturday morning (if the delivery address is a residential post code).
Discounts available for orders of 5 units or more - call +44 (0)161 868 0868
Go buy one! And give us hands on review
Hi
Mine was dispatched today and should be with me tomorrow, however the post office are on strike and while they are trying to ensure Special Deliveries happen as normal I may not get it tomorrow! Boo the post office.
The Toshiba website has been update for the launch http://www.toshiba-europe.com/mobile/
The manual is there as well and states it has 128MByte ROM and 128MByte of RAM, a screen shot I've seen shows 112 available which point's towards 128 RAM, yet lots of other places states it is 64 for both including Toshiba's page on the net! Guess I'll find out tomorrow.
I'll post back with some pictures etc if I get it tomorrow.
Regards
Phil
Philip..let us know how you get on when it arrives. Am thinking about getting one of these to replace my Universal. Cheers
It is a Great device.... and if he got a AGPS builtin there is not so much difference between the Kaiser
Hi Phil,
I am interested in the screen, the 800x480 WVGA. Please if you can make screenshots, how good is it ...
I meant, can you really set to 800x480 pixel? For example, if you use font with size 10x10 pixel, you will get 80x48 characters. While on QVGA 320x240, you will get 32x24 characters. So, I am wondering if the 800x480 indeed will give you "more displayed" information.
PS: Maybe you need http://www.jaml.com/MvRTrueVGA/ , I am not sure.
It is really nice device, I like the large screen / keyboard combination
Hi
It doesn't look like it will arrive today due to the post office strike, so either Monday or Tuesday now After waiting all this time it's very annoying that a post office strike delays it even more.
Regards
Phil
It is time to make the G900 wiki?
Kaiser is 192 grams, this G900 is 196 grams. Insane, they just keep getting heavier and heavier.
Not as great as I hoped
Managed to buy the G900 from Inkino in London for 430 on Saturday when they managed to get hold of it. Was dirt excited and even more so when I held it in my hand to find it more or less the same size as my existing (but dying) Vario II! No exact measurements, but G900 will fit into the Vario II supplied belt pouch comfortably.
There's two major niggles. Firstly is the single frequency coverage of G900 (2100) compared to the 3 offered by Vario II. Hopefully not too much of a big deal but already I'm noticing how areas where I usually get full 3G coverage is now showing single bar etc. Though I have to admit this fluctuates quite a bit even on the spot. I have a feeling the aerial of the G900 is very weak.
Here's the biggest niggle: the screen doesn't appear to be transreflective so under even bright sunshine, you can forget about using it. This is sooo disappointing, I thought all screens are transreflective these days on pocket pcs??!?
Bar the niggles, it is seriously more responsive... Notes ink are instantaenous compared to the unusable lag on the Vario II and Calligrapher also performs beautifully. Not to mention that stunning killer 800x480 screen... there's also a lot of bloatware involving that finger print scanner. Camera software seems to be Toshiba's own version which I think is less customisable than Vario II (Was using WM6 ROM on Vario II).
Anyway, it's ok for me at the moment which is bad having waited for nearly 4 months or something? That screen is driving me mad...
I have a HTC TyTN and under the sunshine it is impossible to see anythings...
At the end who win TyTN vs. G900?
Hi, PhilipL, so you finally got your phone..sorry about the niggles
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, now would you be nice enough to look into some of the specs and also do some tests for us? here's a bunch of questions,
what is the CPU frequency? 416 or 520 mhz?
does the camera have Auto Focus function?
How does TCPMP or CorePlayer work in WVGA?
Any signs of a graphics accelerator?
Could you run some tests with SPB Benchmark?(+)
..Many Thanks in advance!
Hi Guys,
New here.
I should be getting a g900 tommorow (if all goes well), so I will drop a quick review here when is in hand.
I have a Mio701 at the mo, and combine that with a Nokia N800 for web stuff, so I will have to see how it stands up.
More later
dajtw said:
Managed to buy the G900 from Inkino in London for
Anyway, it's ok for me at the moment which is bad having waited for nearly 4 months or something? That screen is driving me mad...
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How lucky you are.
what are the software provided with the G900?
thanks
BrigateGB said:
I have a HTC TyTN and under the sunshine it is impossible to see anythings...
At the end who win TyTN vs. G900?
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Trust me, your Tytn screen in sunshine would kill the G900. My vario II is dodgy in sunshine but you can position it in a way to still see relatively clearly the screen. There is no position the G900 can be in to show you it's screen in bright sunlight. :'(
i get mine tomrorow too...
better come before i go golfing... anyone know what screen protector to get????
Mine's on order too. Strange the lack of reviews around for this phone.
I like the usb host function. This may be a dumb question (newbie alert), but anyone have a view on whether this phone would work with a portable hard drive (if separately powered)?
Hi
Hi, PhilipL, so you finally got your phone..sorry about the niggles, now would you be nice enough to look into some of the specs and also do some tests for us? here's a bunch of questions,
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Due to post office strike I didn't get it at the weekend, due on tomorrow now as was only collected today.
Shame to hear it's not a transreflective screen, as while they may not be brilliant in bright sunlight at least you can see the screen. Maybe with the very high resolution being transreflective didn't help much as each pixel is tiny to get light in to reflect back out again?
Regards
Phil
Hi
There's two major niggles. Firstly is the single frequency coverage of G900 (2100) compared to the 3 offered by Vario II
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I think in Europe only 2100 is used for UMTS so the lack of the other two would not effect the signal strength as far as I can tell.
It may just be a reporting issue with the single bar on 3G if it works okay that is
Keep us up to date with how you get on with it.
Regards
Phil
X_Farhad said:
Hi, PhilipL, so you finally got your phone..sorry about the niggles
, now would you be nice enough to look into some of the specs and also do some tests for us? here's a bunch of questions,
what is the CPU frequency? 416 or 520 mhz?
does the camera have Auto Focus function?
How does TCPMP or CorePlayer work in WVGA?
Any signs of a graphics accelerator?
Could you run some tests with SPB Benchmark?(+)
..Many Thanks in advance!
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Can tell you some stuff... cpu frequency is 520, camera software isn't as good as Vario II cause it's Toshiba's own software and it does not have autofocus nor macro (which Vario II has)!
Coreplayer if made to go full screen seems to end up showing the video in-between 2 black bars, like watching 4:3 on a 16:9 screen. Mind you, I've not core player playing properly either.
Not sure about gfx accelerator but initial impressions are that it may have since a lotta gfx functions seems faster.. the techie owners can correct me on that...
Not had chance to do spb test yet; haven't even set it up properly... I think the screen display in sunlight just dampened my spirits on the thing..

What does HTC have against a 3.5" VGA touchscreen with hardware video acceleration ?

What does HTC have against a 3.5" VGA touchscreen with hardware video acceleration ?
Aren't you tired of their tiny 2.8" QVGA screens with software video acceleration ?, how many years will they keep coming up with it and we'll keep buying it like hotcakes ?
Most of us would kill for a phone with the exact features that I've written in the subject line (on top of the current features of the Kaiser/Cruise) that runs Windows Mobile, yet HTC fails to deliver it.
Why ?
I mean, there is a huge market eagerly waiting for such phone (at *any* price), the technology is here for more than a year, so what's keeping them from making it ?
The Xperia is not the answer, since it's not a 3.5" screen, and according to current understanding it does not have hardware video acceleration (again!).
If any device that carries the name "Tytn" or "Touch" automatically gets a tiny 2.8" QVGA screen with software video acceleration, maybe it's time to ditch these names and come up with new family names for products that fit the technology state that we're in, and not the state that we were at 2005 !!!
so far, we already have the 3.5" VGA screen from the Universal...I would pay 700 € for a touch cruise with the screen of the universal!!!!
How can I use a touch screen if the icons are even difficult to select by stylus???
If only someone would have made bootcamp drivers for the new 3G iPhone, so it could run WM... I would have ditched HTC in a heartbeat.
and add a micoSD card to iphone too
Noam23 said:
If only someone would have made bootcamp drivers for the new 3G iPhone, so it could run WM... I would have ditched HTC in a heartbeat.
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Note that the iPhone will also receive Java support. The iPhone 2G (!) chipset itself, as I've already elaborated on it, has 3D HW acceleration; with a MIDlet manager supporting it, the platform can become a decent gaming platform.
"and according to current understanding it does not have hardware video acceleration (again!)."
as of yet it's only speculation what the final software platform of the Xperia will bring
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and according to current understanding it does not have hardware video acceleration (again!).
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Not necessarily - have you read my devoted article?
go on ebay and buy an x51v. Sorry, it's not a phone !
Wow, someone really hates htc.. 3 threads of htc bashing...
Aren't you tired of their tiny 2.8" QVGA screens with software video acceleration ?,
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not really no... i think its a good size for a wmphone. i had the wizard -> universal and i much prefered the design of the wizard so i upgraded imo from the universal -> hermes.
these are pda phones, not a portable entertainment center.
sure it would be cool to have a better video support, and 3.5" screen would probably be cool too, but way too big after you factor in the actual size of the device.
people want smaller phones and they probably don't see a huge demand for larger screens.. honestly, im happy with the touch screen size.. i wouldn't want it any bigger as the device would have to be twice as big.
not to mention bigger power consumption, etc..
what they need to do is make better batteries.. with the technology these days we should be able to go days without a charge..
they can send spacecrafts to the other side of the universe and have it orbit another world but they can't make better batteries.
anyway, i can go on and on....
"they can send spacecrafts to the other side of the universe"
no they cant they can barely send them to the other side of the solar system
"sure it would be cool to have a better video support, and 3.5" screen would probably be cool too, but way too big after you factor in the actual size of the device."
thats about the size of the iphone plenty of people want that for now anyway
"what they need to do is make better batteries"
agree'd not just for phones but laptops too
Here you go: HTC's new phone with a VGA screen codenamed Raphael:
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Raphael features a full QWERTY deal and is destined to replace the Mogul. The paperwork's pretty blurry, but it appears that this Windows Mobile device will feature WiFi, 3 megapixel cameras, and -- get this -- VGA displays. Goodness! The Raphael is currently lined up to be the first out of the gate, hitting the streets in September.
Its going to be launched under Sprint
Do a search on the flame. Thats everything that you have been asking for.
The Raphael still have the tiny 2.8" screen (why ???), and we don't know if it has hardware video acceleration.
The O2 XDA Flame is a wonderful device, and I considered it before purchasing the Kaiser, but it does not have GPS. The O2 XDA Flame with GPS (maybe minus several grams) would have been a wonderful device.
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The Raphael still have the tiny 2.8" screen (why ???), and we don't know if it has hardware video acceleration.
The O2 XDA Flame is a wonderful device, and I considered it before purchasing the Kaiser, but it does not have GPS. The O2 XDA Flame with GPS (maybe minus several grams) would have been a wonderful device.
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Perhaps he has meant the HTC Omni ;-)
if I could have a 3.5 vga screen id be one happy camper.
Too bad diamond and raphael will have 2.8.
Oh well, maybe next year
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Aren't you tired of their tiny 2.8" QVGA screens with software video acceleration ?, how many years will they keep coming up with it and we'll keep buying it like hotcakes ?
Most of us would kill for a phone with the exact features that I've written in the subject line (on top of the current features of the Kaiser/Cruise) that runs Windows Mobile, yet HTC fails to deliver it.
Why ?
I mean, there is a huge market eagerly waiting for such phone (at *any* price), the technology is here for more than a year, so what's keeping them from making it ?
The Xperia is not the answer, since it's not a 3.5" screen, and according to current understanding it does not have hardware video acceleration (again!).
If any device that carries the name "Tytn" or "Touch" automatically gets a tiny 2.8" QVGA screen with software video acceleration, maybe it's time to ditch these names and come up with new family names for products that fit the technology state that we're in, and not the state that we were at 2005 !!!
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If sources are right then, your request for a large screen may just be answered by HTC with not an 3.5 but a 4inch, that right 4 inch, screen in the HTC Omni.
http://mobilitysite.com/2007/07/htc-omni-details-leaked/
But as people mentioned earlier in this thread, it's going to be big, and i'm not sure that's a good thing.

Anyone recommend a VGA replacement for my TyTN II??

Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone has had much experience trying to replace a TyTN II. I've been really please with it, but I don't really use the keyboard and would really love a VGA screen.
I've looked at the Eten X650 and X800 but the reviews are a bit mixed to say the least and I'm just not sure!
So has anyone made the switch from an HTC device to an Eten or i-mate etc successfully or any other similar phone? And found them to be useable?!?!
Any suggestions on a new model would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advanced,
Gadget.
You could look at the Touch Diamond. If you want a keyboard wait for the Touch Pro.
gadgetdude, similar situation here. Except I'm moving from a standard tytn to an I-mate 9502 and I need the keyboard. This is only day 2 in the switch for me, but I can say it's different. One big thing I miss is the lack of the great HTC apps like the home plugin, audio manager, and task manager. That hurts. Also, I gotta say, while the VGA is good for browsing and makes the fonts look great, it's kinda of a waste on a 2.8" screen.
This phone is a little quirky compared to the tytn, but it has some good points. I'll probably be using it until the X1 comes out. Good luck.
Now with all the VGA devices coming out, I would have thought someone would have converted the original HTC home to fit VGA. I know there is currently a version out there that works but it makes every so damn small. Imagine how the original HTC would look in VGA if it fit to the screen lke the QVGA version does.
More info...
Thanks dudes for all you're input.
Still not sure tho - the Touch Pro looks rather cool! And I guess it'll have proper VGA versions of the HTC software?!
Has anyone got any opinions on the 'joystick' control on the Eten X800 or X650 though? I'm still not convinced whether it'll be a real pain or not!
Cheers dudes!
Have you looked at the tosh g900?
This actually has the highest res screen on any windows mobile device (to my knowledge) at 800x480. Its gorgeous for browsing and looking at pictures/photo's etc. It can be a bit slow when rotating orientation but thats the only time.
The original firmware was VERY buggy and so it built up a reputation according to this - bear in mind though, it was brand new and early adoption should expect issues. This reputation is now unfounded imho. Since firmware 3.01 and above, its rock solid and I never have to reboot mine.
This is what I do on mine without any issues/crashes:
Today screen extra's -
HTC X-Button,
SPB Weather,
SPB Backup,
Rhinocode Launch Pro,
Corner-A PDA Status
Other apps installed and working -
Saman SMSDeliveryReceiptFix
Micromega MSS Converter
ZoomSMS
YouTube Player
OneNote (although, this wont pull notes FROM the PC but will push TOO the pc)
MS Voicecommand
Google Maps
Route66 (sadly, the only Satnav i've found to work correctly with its high res screen)
Oh something else this phone did first, afaik, was to have a USB hub in it! You wont believe how handy it is to plug in USB storage devices (right up to external 3.5" disks!) at work to move stuff around.
The fingerprint security/program launcher is excellent - wish more phones had it! I also use the phone constantly on 3g/hsdpa as a modem for my pc and browse the web loads. I've had to buy a 3000mamp battery which makes the phone a bit bulky but to be fair, i don't think there are many people who are as heavy users as me. I also have configured a mail2web push email and a couple of pop 3 accounts.
BUT I am getting rid for two reasons:
No built in GPS
camera is w*&k
I am waiting for the Samsung I900 Omnia which is released any day now here in England.
Samsung http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=samsung+i900&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
Tosh http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=tosh+g900&meta=
I had the eten M800 and the joystick was ok. It made it abit larger when in your pocket. Personally I like the joystick on the imate 8502. This joystick is the best I've used yet buty personally I like the 5-way pad over any joystick.
If screen resolution is a top priority, then take a look at Sony Xperia X1, it does have a physical keyboard but has a WVGA screen, thats 800 by 480. It's designed by HTC and marketed by Sony Ericsson, so best of both worlds.
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If screen resolution is a top priority, then take a look at Sony Xperia X1, it does have a physical keyboard but has a WVGA screen, thats 800 by 480. It's designed by HTC and marketed by Sony Ericsson, so best of both worlds.
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and also not out until end of this year/early next year(?) .... continualy delayed product. By the time it comes out its going to be old. Compared to the G900 it offers very little extra and the G900 was out almost a year ago (and so has had all the bugs ironed out of it, something a brand new product will not be able to claim), specialy a Windows Mobile device.
you can also wait for the futur Toshiba G920 or G910
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but i thought there is a bounty for whoever to unlock the video processor within the tytn ii or tilt that is not being used at all...if someone is able to show us how to make use of that wouldnt that improve the resolution plus 3d games?
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... unlock the video processor within the tytn ii or tilt that is not being used at all......
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Sadly thats the case with a lot of phones. A great many smartphones out there have this issue. For example, my G900 has the Nvidia chipset in it but it aint used properly, and with an 800x480 screen, it would make a massive diference.
Why, oh why do they not give them drivers?
its not just phone company i remember the psp was like that as well...originally was a faster processor but they blocked it...off topic...anyways i seen a video of someone tapping into the graphic chip on the tytn ii maybe there is still hope...
Thanks for all the input on this.
In the end after much soul searching (well, phone searching, anyway!) I decided to go for the new Touch Diamond. Seems to fit what I'm after the most.
It's arriving tomorrow and I can't wait!!
Gadgetdude,
You have PM
WB

Shall we get the Raphael?

Checking in!
Just to share a thought. Looking back more than a year ago, I had to spend some good effort hunting for the TyTN 1 (Got the first available variant model Taiwan CHT9000). This year alot of decent phones came out, making decisions much harder to make. I guess it is good news...
The Raphael would be a dream keyboarded WM 6.1 micro SD device but since I currently own the HTC Diamond and Apple iPhone 3G. I have to double think before getting this. May be I will have the Diamond sold and get the Raphael.
The iPhone lacks AD2P Bluetooth which is a serious draw back. The battery is non swappable, no memory card (not really a big deal cos the itunes sync is much more reliable than Active Sync ).
Feel free to share your thoughts!
Wow, you really are a "PPC-Warrior" with all those devices :O.
drivers?
Shall we get the Raphael?
Mmm that depends of the performance of the gpu,
or presence of a graphic driver!
Does anybody has information about this issue?
Does it take SDHC or just regular microSD?
takes SDHC up to 32GB
I had a dream...
What about the famous HTC Dream. its been long roumered to be out before year ends. Would it be worth waiting for I wonder.
I have so been waiting for this device to hit the shelves. HTC should have had this thing available 2 weeks ago or at least made some noise about it. Imagine if people knew about this!!
Apple sold 1 million Iphones here in Australia in the first 3 days and you cant even type on the damn thing without having to constantly correct yourself if you have fingers bigger than what my 5 yr old has and the GPS cant speak directions, no messenger and list of draw backs goes on.
I'm just hanging for this thing to arrive.
Will the Raphael have the same diamond back as the ,uh, Diamond? I read somewhere that the diamond doesn't lay flat on the table. I also read somewhere that there will be an optional flat back. Any thoughts?
The T-mobile branded Raphael has a flat backcover...
I can't really think of any reason not to buy a Raphael. This looks like the perfect device for current standards. And I don't think it has any serious flaw, which kept me from buying other devices (like the video issue on Tytn II for example).
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
The only thing that's putting me off is the screen size. 2.8 inches really isn't very big, especially when you're used to the Universal and its wonderful 3.7 inch VGA screen.
The xperia 3 inch screen isn't much bigger than the touch pro, plus I prefer the touch pro styling. I also wonder if the xperia's WVGA screen will cause software compatability problems?
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The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
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1. maybe software problems with that screen solution
2. no video out
3. probably no (or not a lot) support by the chefs and professionals in this community for that hardware...
4. no release date avaliable
Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
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I have read the keyboard is awful. Unless they improve it before releasing, which is highly unlikely because that would change the design, I wouldn't buy it, afterall the main reason for me to choose Pro instead of Diamond is the keyboard, which is considered excellent by some people who had a chance to use it.
thanks, your arguments make enough sense to reconsider my liking. I wish the Diamond Pro would have a 3' screen ;-)
I heard that X-Peria is going to be released only in oct end , so thats quite some time whereas Raphael is scheduled to be launched on aug 5th i guess.
I am eying on the Raphael.
Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
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the physical screen size of the X1 is only 0.2" than the Raphael...
A good reason not to go the X1 is the wonderful Xda-developers forum
Another is that it's a bit delay
Personally the perfect phone for me would be a Diamond with micro-sd card support and a 3.5" screen with VGA but I sold my prophet and I can't no longer wait for the perfect phone. So, the best for now is the Raphael...
P.S. - Samsung Omnia is also a no go for me cause it doesn't have a stylus...
Actually the omnia has a stylus which looks like lipsick lol, there's nowhere on the handset to store it thought.. picture below.
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Sunlight readable?
I am pretty sure I want to get the Touch Pro over the Xperia X1 apart from one thing. The reviews of the Xperia say it's screen is readable under direct sunlight. People I know with the Diamond say it is not.
I've spent the last year with the Tosh G900. It also has the 800x480 like the Xperia but it can't be seen outside. I was thinking that all these small screen high res phones were unreadable in sunlight. Maybe there is a problem with transflective displays at this pixel density?
The Touch Pro has a lot of advantages over the X1, 5 rows of keys, TV out and 640x480 screen (this is better I now know after living with the 800x480 for year and finding loads of apps that wont work). But I like to use TomTom while cycling so sunlight readable would be quite a bonus...
This phone so nearly does everything that I've been waiting so many years for, apart from decent camera with optical zoom and OLED screen. Guess I'll have to wait a few more years before I'm completely happy!
actually the diamond is the first pda/phone i have that the light sensor really works, if there is too much sun he will increase the display light, for me it is quite readable ( better than x7500 for example )

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