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Poll - Which phone should I get next? Atom, Mio, or another?

Ladies and Gents:
In approximately 20 days, Mrs Vijay555 is giving birth to Vijay555.1, God willing.
However, more importantly, my phone contract is also coming to an end at the same time, and thus my question to you, should you choose to accept it:
Which phone shall I get next?
I've got a Magician, which I love.
I've got a Universal, which I have a love/hate relationship with. But it's not used as a phone, and won't be.
I'm in a suit all day:
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and so this is a significant factor - small, not a pocket ripper.
The Wizard is unfortunately a bit frumpy for me, like Fat Monica in Friends:
- you know it's got some sexiness in it, but it's a bit too chunky, and it's Omap.
So really, Magician-ish size is pretty much my only criteria.
CPU speed (ARM/OMAP) I can live with, I'll twist it's arm and speed it up either way.
Keyboard would be nice, but not essential.
I want something that'll be available in T minus 20 days.
Which in my mind only really leaves the Atom and the Mio A701. Or perhaps "none of the above"?.
The Mio is a bit "vertically over-challenged", but it's ok. Also slightly plastic fantasic, no?
The Atom seems to be a strong contender.
What do you think? Thanks for listening!
V

i don't really recommend Mio at all, sure i have yet to see if the new one is better, but i've heard really crap reviews about the A700 (i'm seeing alot of 1-2month new ones out for sale 2nd hand too) and i have an A201 GPS model of my own which is in the car as a navigator. the A201 i have has caused me abit of trouble already and i've pratically given up on having it be anything besides a navigation unit for the car. so impressions so far aren't too good of the Mio brand as a whole.
i heard alot of problems with the Atom when it first came out too, but with new firmware updates i'm seeing better reviews and less problems. it does seem to be rather costly though, being almost six thousand hong kong dollars (we don't have many special contract deals with the Atom here) considering an extra 20% or so will get me a brand new Universal outright. price factor aside though it seems to match your needs, the suit, the power, and the size factor. like you say, a strong contender mate. i really don't have a better suggestion.

Ok, here's my two cents: For your Magician, I'd recommend an E-Ten M600. It's stylish (to me, anyways. I like black . But that's subjective) And it can do the job. For your choice of Universal replacement, I would suggest an Advance TC MAGIC. It's not HTC, but wait till you see.
http://www.advancetc.com/

It's pretty amazing that the company would show photos of the phone being held by someone with so much dirt under their fingernails and smudges on the screen. Also, the phone doesn't appear to be very compact; much beefier then the HTC Wizard I think.
--Jas

Like I said... a replacement for his Universal, not for his Magician. I recommended an M600 for that job.

Prophet - you know you want to!! 8)

Good point, forget li'l ol Prophet and Charmer. Cute and the form factor is identical. But I think the Atom has the edge over both in terms of size, and it has a flash.
What say you, TheBrit? Are you happy with it?
V

Ive had both prophet and atom..Much prefer the dopod ..I found the atom to be real buggy this was with the second rom though.. think theres been a few updates since

I went from magician to the Mio A701 and I am really pleased.
I like the fact that it does everything in one unit. Having GPS on it is great to have.
The main thing that took time to get used to was the differences between WM2003 to WM5.
Yes there are a few little niggles but nothing major. It's not noticably larger than the magician. And it comes with great extras in the box (car mount and car charger in particular). It's also noticably faster than the magician was (IMO).

Hi Vj!
After comparing features on www.gsmarena.com between ETEN, Mio, and various HTC devices, I finally settled on the Prophet (sold as imate jamin).
- size
- connectivity (WiFi g, EDGE)
- full size SD
- 2MP camera (not critical but a bonus non the less)
Have received it yet though so cant comment on performance. Will post opinion when it arrives.

After the latest official ROM upgrade of the Atom, you will not regret having it or any of its derivatives :lol:
After xda2, I have had K-jam and currently own both the Prophet and Atom :wink:

Thanks very much for your feedback thus far all.[b/]
Prophet has the advantage that it uses full size SD, which saves me buying another one. And as levenum indicates, it's got a good feature set.
Atom is sexy: victoradjei's post suggests it's working ok now.
flicka's recommendation on the Mio is strong - I'm swayed by a new "toy", ie a feature that'll let me do something new, and I have some ideas about some GPS plugins I want to write, so that'd be nice too.
Sigh, it's all still in the running! What to do, what to do!
V

Yes, getting a new toy can be a challenge when there are so many options. I debated my choice for couple of month, but in the end the availability and price 'helped' me make up my mind.
Here's a suggestion: Assign each quality of the device (design, size, communications, GPS etc.) a value in points. Then calculate the total value for devices you want to choose from and see who gets the highest score. I recommend doing it on paper and not in your head so you wont suddenly decide that full SD worth more than WiFi g instead of b.
Set your goals. Calculate. Go for the winner.
If you don't like it, remember - your contract is not for life, and by the time it expires, there will be a whole new generation of toys out there.

Until I bought the atom I had never seen malloc return NULL. Even after all the upgrades it still fails often at tasks like performing a system snapshot. Ringtones still get choppy at times and it turns itself on for no reason. There is something seriously wrong with the atom. They can hide it from average users but when you try programming on the thing it becomes obvious that it is not that good. Of course you could just code for every possible outcome but its just not an issue on other devices.

OdeeanRDeathshead: very intersting observations, and obviously very important. Difficult scenario either way: code to take into account the Atom's weaknesses, or lose Atom compatibility?
But Windows Mobile is peculiar enough already, having to code for sytem specific bugs is a pain either way My heart goes out to you!
V

vijay555 said:
Good point, forget li'l ol Prophet and Charmer. Cute and the form factor is identical. But I think the Atom has the edge over both in terms of size, and it has a flash.
What say you, TheBrit? Are you happy with it?
V
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Yeah...so far so good.

you're probably looking forward to the next new one by now, but, which did you get?
B

try the asus p525
i updated from xda2 mini that i loved and i still have it, to the asus p525.
2mpixl auto focus flash (one of the best camera for ppc on the market)
wifi,bluetooth 2,infra,normal keypad that is very useful ,i can use it as full speed card reader for my 4 gb mini sd .
b4 i bought the asus i was going for atom, but i saw that asus has the full package that i need .
consider that the atom is the same size or bit smaller then the sda2 mini.
and the asus p525 is 1 cm longer and 2 mm thicker.
PPC-DOC

Artemis (aka the orbit) isn't in the running?

Anyone try the Eten Glofiish X500

Has anyone tried the OS on the Glofiish X500.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5793.html

Actually I got this one, and have a few other qteks/ipaqs laying around too.
The screen used is the best screen I've seen in about 7 years of pda using.
Contrast is way higher and sharp, colours are rich.
The display has some colourbleeding though, if you switch from a dark screen to a light screen like the blue today screen you see a vague impression of some of the black parts of the previous screen.
I don't find it annoying at all, I hardly noticed it after a few days using.
It has an internal radio, but you got to use the headset in order to listen to it, the antenna is build into is.
This antenna isn't real sensitive, and the radio signal doesn't get pick up to well except if you use like 80% of it's length.
The device itself has realy been taken care of, aluminium details, rubber back, it a has a touch of quality to it.
You get a leather case with it which is brilliant, though I miss a beltclip on it.
You get many software on it, the best is the phone filter, which you let block certain phone numbers.
You get a battery bar too which is in the programm bar on top, at least they thought of it! But it lacks something like x-button, would have completed it.
Then you got image maker, which makes me think of paint from windows 3.11, no clue why it's there but oh well, did I say you can remove any of these single software pieces? what you don't use you can simply delete to free space So much for the extended roms of other phones of other brands.
Then there's a simple multimedia browser which let's you browse through directories and show pictures and sounds, not to bad either.
Plus there's some image wizard to add borders to pictures etc.
Then there's some mms software, which is pretty nice.
I already mentioned the call filter didn't I?
Then there are 4 profiles called "scenarios" software, it's nice but not real good, but at leat it let's you turn off the sound for a meeting.
Then there's some skype receivers switch which intergartes skype into the software, which is nice, and skype is installed too (which is 5mb and since I don't have a need for it I de-installed as first!)
Then there's some speed dial which is actually pretty nice, big buttons with name + number in it, actually use it a lot while driving.
Then there's some voice commander, though it's funny I never really used it.
The 2 mpx camera in it isn't to bad, one of the better I've seen in pocket pc's, but still it has a long way to go to be able to come close to nokia's (I'm jealous at the lenses they use in it! I really am)
The software for this camera is real good, nice big buttons for the functions and on teh case you got nice buttons to zoom, at exactly the right place.
Fron the back you can't tell if it's a pda or a camera actually!
All by all E-ten has by far the best quality I've ever seen in a pda, and the price is quite right too!
Here in the Netherlands it's only 30 euro more expensive than a htc 3300 which has about the same specs.
I wouldn't have a hard choise if I had ever to choose again between brands, E-ten is THE brand of choise for me.
Just to bad there's no E-ten x50 subforum here, really miss it.
If people want I could try to see if I can get into the extended rom and get all of these nice apps for you people.

Hi. iruja, I would like to try the eten call filtering and also the location sms sounds interesting.
How stable is the eten?
I was told the GPS is horribly slow to get a fix, can you confirm this?

I'll see if I can get into the extended rom later on.
In fact the e-ten is really stable, much more stable and more responsive than my overclocked wizard.
The gps gets turned on as soon as you start tomtom or igo, and I get a fix within 5 sec(!), being outside.
Inside the home it takes some longer, and the signal will drop from time to time to under 3 sattelites, but why would you want to navigate inside your own house anyway? (granted, maybe if you own a caste )
The gps is really sensitive and has no lag, my qtek with an external sirf III gps had a lag of about 30 meters, on my screen I would be before the turn while I was actually passed it, no such thing with the x500, could be because of the faster cpu I don't know, but both gps use the same chipset.
The only place I could think of you would get a bad signal would be around flats and high buildings, but even within Rotterdam I had no problems navigating.
In short, the gps works flawlessly for me, but can't speak for everyone.
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The wizard solutions for unlocking the extended rom won't work on the x500, I'll try other stuff later today, maybe someone has a idea?
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I switched to Tytn after my X500 was repaired two times due to a faulty GPS chip. The motherboard was
replaced both times. It is a nice PDA, but has reliability and ergonomics issues. I' d suggest that you wait for X800 or X500+ , as they may be better thought out VGA devices.

I have also read that Eten will definitely be upgrading their phones to WM6 and will be providing new rom to existing users. Ya it would be great if their was a Eten subforum.

http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=8WBW0PBC
this should be the extended rom with call filter and other stuff in it
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pthomson said:
I have also read that Eten will definitely be upgrading their phones to WM6 and will be providing new rom to existing users. Ya it would be great if their was a Eten subforum.
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the x500 will be re-released as the x500+ soon and although identical in size it will have a VGA screen as well as WM6.

Hi iruja, just downloaded the ext.rom thank you.
I am trying some of the cabs now on my orbit, so hopefully I won't have to reset it too many times.
So far I've tried:
locationSMS, this seamed to work but when I got a GPS fix and hit send it hung for about 2 minutes and then notified me that my message could not be sent. So maybe I need a fix for that.
ScreenKB which I thought might be call screening, but that refused to install at all.
GPS Viewer which looks good and works well on the orbit.

Screen keyboard is a onscreen keyboard 2/3rd the size of the screen which allows you to quickly tap and send sms, quite nice.
Maybe some people can make an all device version of it? like o2 plus?

Have you tried message ease it looks really interesting. I will try it once I get my X500 in a week.

Well I'm just tapping with my fingers and I'm pretty fast with it, I like it better than the other thumb pads around I've seen/used so far.

Just bought one here's a pic.

Next check this will be my new device!! Like the specs, hope hardware issues wont hinder my ownership. I have wanted this device for a month, reading, rereading revues.. Hoping. Then I see pthomson's animated gif. Priceless, and here I sit speechless. Any one know the BEST price in USA?
I found
Item #: X500+
Price: $574.99
Any site better pm me plz
PS there is a forum @ eten for there device.
scarry post for me from yesterday
"Should add the memory leak problem...
Huge problem for me...
Philippe"
Any one else have memory leak issue? Just looking at the animated gif, that looks like a nice LOAD test device.

I have found a little memory loss but not bad at all. I purchased mine on ebay I have seen it sell for under 500.00.

Anyone recommend a VGA replacement for my TyTN II??

Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone has had much experience trying to replace a TyTN II. I've been really please with it, but I don't really use the keyboard and would really love a VGA screen.
I've looked at the Eten X650 and X800 but the reviews are a bit mixed to say the least and I'm just not sure!
So has anyone made the switch from an HTC device to an Eten or i-mate etc successfully or any other similar phone? And found them to be useable?!?!
Any suggestions on a new model would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advanced,
Gadget.

You could look at the Touch Diamond. If you want a keyboard wait for the Touch Pro.

gadgetdude, similar situation here. Except I'm moving from a standard tytn to an I-mate 9502 and I need the keyboard. This is only day 2 in the switch for me, but I can say it's different. One big thing I miss is the lack of the great HTC apps like the home plugin, audio manager, and task manager. That hurts. Also, I gotta say, while the VGA is good for browsing and makes the fonts look great, it's kinda of a waste on a 2.8" screen.
This phone is a little quirky compared to the tytn, but it has some good points. I'll probably be using it until the X1 comes out. Good luck.

Now with all the VGA devices coming out, I would have thought someone would have converted the original HTC home to fit VGA. I know there is currently a version out there that works but it makes every so damn small. Imagine how the original HTC would look in VGA if it fit to the screen lke the QVGA version does.

More info...
Thanks dudes for all you're input.
Still not sure tho - the Touch Pro looks rather cool! And I guess it'll have proper VGA versions of the HTC software?!
Has anyone got any opinions on the 'joystick' control on the Eten X800 or X650 though? I'm still not convinced whether it'll be a real pain or not!
Cheers dudes!

Have you looked at the tosh g900?
This actually has the highest res screen on any windows mobile device (to my knowledge) at 800x480. Its gorgeous for browsing and looking at pictures/photo's etc. It can be a bit slow when rotating orientation but thats the only time.
The original firmware was VERY buggy and so it built up a reputation according to this - bear in mind though, it was brand new and early adoption should expect issues. This reputation is now unfounded imho. Since firmware 3.01 and above, its rock solid and I never have to reboot mine.
This is what I do on mine without any issues/crashes:
Today screen extra's -
HTC X-Button,
SPB Weather,
SPB Backup,
Rhinocode Launch Pro,
Corner-A PDA Status
Other apps installed and working -
Saman SMSDeliveryReceiptFix
Micromega MSS Converter
ZoomSMS
YouTube Player
OneNote (although, this wont pull notes FROM the PC but will push TOO the pc)
MS Voicecommand
Google Maps
Route66 (sadly, the only Satnav i've found to work correctly with its high res screen)
Oh something else this phone did first, afaik, was to have a USB hub in it! You wont believe how handy it is to plug in USB storage devices (right up to external 3.5" disks!) at work to move stuff around.
The fingerprint security/program launcher is excellent - wish more phones had it! I also use the phone constantly on 3g/hsdpa as a modem for my pc and browse the web loads. I've had to buy a 3000mamp battery which makes the phone a bit bulky but to be fair, i don't think there are many people who are as heavy users as me. I also have configured a mail2web push email and a couple of pop 3 accounts.
BUT I am getting rid for two reasons:
No built in GPS
camera is w*&k
I am waiting for the Samsung I900 Omnia which is released any day now here in England.
Samsung http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=samsung+i900&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
Tosh http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=tosh+g900&meta=

I had the eten M800 and the joystick was ok. It made it abit larger when in your pocket. Personally I like the joystick on the imate 8502. This joystick is the best I've used yet buty personally I like the 5-way pad over any joystick.

If screen resolution is a top priority, then take a look at Sony Xperia X1, it does have a physical keyboard but has a WVGA screen, thats 800 by 480. It's designed by HTC and marketed by Sony Ericsson, so best of both worlds.

[email protected] said:
If screen resolution is a top priority, then take a look at Sony Xperia X1, it does have a physical keyboard but has a WVGA screen, thats 800 by 480. It's designed by HTC and marketed by Sony Ericsson, so best of both worlds.
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and also not out until end of this year/early next year(?) .... continualy delayed product. By the time it comes out its going to be old. Compared to the G900 it offers very little extra and the G900 was out almost a year ago (and so has had all the bugs ironed out of it, something a brand new product will not be able to claim), specialy a Windows Mobile device.

you can also wait for the futur Toshiba G920 or G910
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but i thought there is a bounty for whoever to unlock the video processor within the tytn ii or tilt that is not being used at all...if someone is able to show us how to make use of that wouldnt that improve the resolution plus 3d games?

jtoyz2 said:
... unlock the video processor within the tytn ii or tilt that is not being used at all......
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Sadly thats the case with a lot of phones. A great many smartphones out there have this issue. For example, my G900 has the Nvidia chipset in it but it aint used properly, and with an 800x480 screen, it would make a massive diference.
Why, oh why do they not give them drivers?

its not just phone company i remember the psp was like that as well...originally was a faster processor but they blocked it...off topic...anyways i seen a video of someone tapping into the graphic chip on the tytn ii maybe there is still hope...

Thanks for all the input on this.
In the end after much soul searching (well, phone searching, anyway!) I decided to go for the new Touch Diamond. Seems to fit what I'm after the most.
It's arriving tomorrow and I can't wait!!

Gadgetdude,
You have PM
WB

Shall we get the Raphael?

Checking in!
Just to share a thought. Looking back more than a year ago, I had to spend some good effort hunting for the TyTN 1 (Got the first available variant model Taiwan CHT9000). This year alot of decent phones came out, making decisions much harder to make. I guess it is good news...
The Raphael would be a dream keyboarded WM 6.1 micro SD device but since I currently own the HTC Diamond and Apple iPhone 3G. I have to double think before getting this. May be I will have the Diamond sold and get the Raphael.
The iPhone lacks AD2P Bluetooth which is a serious draw back. The battery is non swappable, no memory card (not really a big deal cos the itunes sync is much more reliable than Active Sync ).
Feel free to share your thoughts!

Wow, you really are a "PPC-Warrior" with all those devices :O.

drivers?
Shall we get the Raphael?
Mmm that depends of the performance of the gpu,
or presence of a graphic driver!
Does anybody has information about this issue?

Does it take SDHC or just regular microSD?

takes SDHC up to 32GB

I had a dream...
What about the famous HTC Dream. its been long roumered to be out before year ends. Would it be worth waiting for I wonder.

I have so been waiting for this device to hit the shelves. HTC should have had this thing available 2 weeks ago or at least made some noise about it. Imagine if people knew about this!!
Apple sold 1 million Iphones here in Australia in the first 3 days and you cant even type on the damn thing without having to constantly correct yourself if you have fingers bigger than what my 5 yr old has and the GPS cant speak directions, no messenger and list of draw backs goes on.
I'm just hanging for this thing to arrive.

Will the Raphael have the same diamond back as the ,uh, Diamond? I read somewhere that the diamond doesn't lay flat on the table. I also read somewhere that there will be an optional flat back. Any thoughts?

The T-mobile branded Raphael has a flat backcover...

I can't really think of any reason not to buy a Raphael. This looks like the perfect device for current standards. And I don't think it has any serious flaw, which kept me from buying other devices (like the video issue on Tytn II for example).

The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?

The only thing that's putting me off is the screen size. 2.8 inches really isn't very big, especially when you're used to the Universal and its wonderful 3.7 inch VGA screen.
The xperia 3 inch screen isn't much bigger than the touch pro, plus I prefer the touch pro styling. I also wonder if the xperia's WVGA screen will cause software compatability problems?

Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
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1. maybe software problems with that screen solution
2. no video out
3. probably no (or not a lot) support by the chefs and professionals in this community for that hardware...
4. no release date avaliable

Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
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I have read the keyboard is awful. Unless they improve it before releasing, which is highly unlikely because that would change the design, I wouldn't buy it, afterall the main reason for me to choose Pro instead of Diamond is the keyboard, which is considered excellent by some people who had a chance to use it.

thanks, your arguments make enough sense to reconsider my liking. I wish the Diamond Pro would have a 3' screen ;-)

I heard that X-Peria is going to be released only in oct end , so thats quite some time whereas Raphael is scheduled to be launched on aug 5th i guess.
I am eying on the Raphael.

Prerna said:
The Raphael looks indeed quite great to me, but I like the screen size of the Xperia. Would there be a reason not to go for the Xperia?
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the physical screen size of the X1 is only 0.2" than the Raphael...
A good reason not to go the X1 is the wonderful Xda-developers forum
Another is that it's a bit delay
Personally the perfect phone for me would be a Diamond with micro-sd card support and a 3.5" screen with VGA but I sold my prophet and I can't no longer wait for the perfect phone. So, the best for now is the Raphael...
P.S. - Samsung Omnia is also a no go for me cause it doesn't have a stylus...

Actually the omnia has a stylus which looks like lipsick lol, there's nowhere on the handset to store it thought.. picture below.
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Sunlight readable?
I am pretty sure I want to get the Touch Pro over the Xperia X1 apart from one thing. The reviews of the Xperia say it's screen is readable under direct sunlight. People I know with the Diamond say it is not.
I've spent the last year with the Tosh G900. It also has the 800x480 like the Xperia but it can't be seen outside. I was thinking that all these small screen high res phones were unreadable in sunlight. Maybe there is a problem with transflective displays at this pixel density?
The Touch Pro has a lot of advantages over the X1, 5 rows of keys, TV out and 640x480 screen (this is better I now know after living with the 800x480 for year and finding loads of apps that wont work). But I like to use TomTom while cycling so sunlight readable would be quite a bonus...
This phone so nearly does everything that I've been waiting so many years for, apart from decent camera with optical zoom and OLED screen. Guess I'll have to wait a few more years before I'm completely happy!

actually the diamond is the first pda/phone i have that the light sensor really works, if there is too much sun he will increase the display light, for me it is quite readable ( better than x7500 for example )

E-Ten Glofiish V900 hands on review available

E-Ten have kindly loaned me a Glofiish V900 review device which isn't due out just yet, and I thought other members may want to know more about it, please see my quick hands on review on our site 4winmobile.com here .
It comes with digital TV, FM tuner, FM transmitter, Sirf Star III GPS built in and much more.

Holy moly...
What hasn't it got... hmmm... nothing...
wicked, And I bet it's got a wicked price to match lol

Preview V900 Glofiish
Preview on LePocketPc.com in french
with many pictures in the gallery
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stevodude said:
Holy moly...
What hasn't it got... hmmm... nothing...
wicked, And I bet it's got a wicked price to match lol
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Prices have yet to be announced, but should be competitive as E-Ten devices usually are.

Excellent stuff boz also a great review!
This will be my next phone as soon as it comes out...
Can you please tell me how good the DAB radio is?
Any idea on a release date?
Thanks!

The dab radio is part of Freeview in the UK, so all the radio stations for your region should be available and in digital stereo. Don't forget it has an FM radio also.
EDIT:- Sorry the release date should be around the end of September-ish!

Many thanks for the reply boz!
How is the camera, is it any better then Kaiser?
I look forward to its release... time to put my Kaiser on sale.

The camera is FAR superior to the Kaisers, and even has a flash. Overall, it's a far superior device, and is much much faster; but it still has a few quirks that will need sorting before they ship it to market.
The GPS is WAY more sensitive than the Kaisers' too, and even got a lock when I was in a jet last week! 37,500 feet up, 499mph! The Kaiser couldn't get a lock. TomTom does odd stuff at that speed.

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The camera is FAR superior to the Kaisers, and even has a flash. Overall, it's a far superior device, and is much much faster; but it still has a few quirks that will need sorting before they ship it to market.
The GPS is WAY more sensitive than the Kaisers' too, and even got a lock when I was in a jet last week! 37,500 feet up, 499mph! The Kaiser couldn't get a lock. TomTom does odd stuff at that speed.
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Amazing! This is making me even more eager to get my hands on this device.
Any chance of capture shot?
Thanks for the answers.

Sure, here's one I took whilst doing about 20mph in a speed boat.
It took the image a LOT faster than the Kaiser does, and with no smearing at all. Probably about the best you can expect to get from a cameraphone, to be honest.
It's only slightly let down by not being able to control the compression ration of the resulting jpg files. A RAW file mode would be better.

FloatingFatMan,
That picture does look many times better then any I have ever taken with my Kaiser..
Also, the site below claims to have 32 V900's in stock for sale when we know it's not even released yet?
Do you think it's a scam?
Thanks
http://gadgetboxlimited.shopmania.biz/product.html?c=2616&p=37696

Very probably a scam, yes. I've mailed it to E-Ten just in case.
As for the camera, with the addition of the flash, it's way better than the Kaisers. It's still not perfect, and I've made a few suggestions for changes to the camera application; but it's better that what I get on my Kaiser (especially as mine has a fault and I get those 2 blue horizontal and vertical lines now ).
Once they work a few more kinks out of the review model, it'll be ready for prime time. It's a really nice phone, and remarkably light too, but don't expect it to be as amazing as something like the Omnia is.
I'm working on writing up a full review which I hope to have done soon. I've been pretty sick since getting back from vacation, my tonsils are the size of Polaris missiles right now and I'm running a fever too, but I'll finish it as soon as I can.

Thanks for that.
Can't wait for your review FloatingFatMan.
I'm not a big fan of Omnia and will never buy it. V900 offers features I really want and I also like the foam factor. I nearly brought Gigabyte T600 until this was unvailed.
I hope you get well soon!
P.S. are you in UK?

The camera is impressive I must say, I took this pic today when out riding, and it was taken on a cloudy day under trees in dappled light!
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WOW! That is impressive!!
Is there any place I can buy the V900 from at all??
This site is selling some but I have a feeling they are doggy, can anyone verify if they are authentic?
http://gadgetboxlimited.shopmania.bi...c=2616&p=37696
Regards!

Yes I have seen that site but it will be a scam, and as previously mentioned the info has been passed onto E-Ten who have confirmed that no V900's have yet been officially released.
I am afraid you will have to wait for it's release in around a month from now.

Thanks boz!
I guess I will have to make do with any reviews and pictures until its released.
btw, unless I am mistaken - Gigabyte t600 (Digital TV phone) it had a function to record from TV, does the V900 have a recording function too?
With your hands on experience so far - what would you say that you are less pleased with about the v900?
Thanks

Well, it has a tendency to grow pretty warm when charging.... That's something they're working on at the moment. The father flimsy battery cover just passes heat like it's not even there.

i see the thing has FM radio with RDS, does it support TMC?
gonna get the phone once it is out, no more missing my shows due to night classes, im gonna watch them in class!

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Well, it has a tendency to grow pretty warm when charging.... That's something they're working on at the moment. The father flimsy battery cover just passes heat like it's not even there.
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Better that than to trap it inside.