I have read the threads about determining if you have a G3 or G4, but mine doesn't seem to clearly fall into one or the other. It is a Qtek S200. I am guessing it's a G4 because of the four digits after the decimal point on the spl, but I'm confused by nothing after the 2.09 on the ipl. Anybody know for sure?
ipl 2.09
spl 2.09.0000
okay,i am not sure that you have been read the wiki?
Wow zeroed, thanks so much for your helpful response. If anyone out there is actually interested in helping me, I would appreciate it. As I said in my original post, I HAVE done research and found info on determining if you have a G3 or G4.
What I found is:
IPL/SPL: ending in .000 = G3 model
IPL/SPL: ending in .0001 = G4 model
Mine is:
ipl 2.09
spl 2.09.0000
Neither my ipl or spl ends in .000 or .0001, hence my confusion.
well your spl ends at .000 what model do you have then?
lol people are still getting confused ...maybe an extra line in the wiki will help. It now reads...
IPL/SPL: ending in .000 = G3 model
IPL/SPL: ending in .0000 = G3 model
IPL/SPL: ending in .0001 = G4 model
he is still confused believe me
I might be one of them...
I think we have reached a point that there is so much information in XDA, that we might as well close all threads! we dont need people writing anymore because it's already writen!
please try to help instead of making useless coments.
triplejay, you wrote:
IPL/SPL: ending in .000 = G3 model
IPL/SPL: ending in .0000 = G3 model
IPL/SPL: ending in .0001 = G4 model
but in the same forum and in others, I have seen:
this:
G3 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 1.XX or 2.XX or 2.XX.00X (only two zeros)
G4 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 2.XX.000X(three zeros)
Note, X is representing a number.
wich I think is a lot more logical...
So if you all can clear me out that would be great!
regards
RP
yes that does seem more logical. Like the original poster, my SPL ends in .0000, though. so...
G3 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 1.XX or 2.XX or 2.XX.00X (only two zeros)
G4 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 2.XX.000X(three zeros)
Note, X is representing a number.
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even though it makes sense, could be mis-interpreted...."x is representing a number, could that number be 0?"...confusion lol
zeroed said:
he is still confused believe me
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Ummm, no Zeroed, I am not still confused. Unlike you, triplejay and tropheuz actually gave me helpful information that answered my question.
well,greeting then,and btw the keyword is :
spl ending at 1 - G4 model
spl ending at 0 - G3 model
but i am sure even after this,there will be many others like you,which still will be "confused" lol
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Searching the forum for these words gives too many replies. So I would appreciate it if someone would explain what IPL and SPL exactly are. On my Prophet IPL = 2.10.001 and SPL = 2.15.001. Should they not be the same, and if yes, how can I upgrade IPL only (whatever it is).
Who will shed some light on this?
IPL = Initial Program Loader, this is the bootloader
SPL = System Programming Language (I Think), Not sure exactly what this does. Its has something to do with the Chip, in the Prophets case.
G3 chip ends in .000 or G4 ends in .001.
I have IPL 1.0 but my SPL is 2.15.000 (i.e I have a G3 chip)
I also know higher SPL's are a pain to unlock, you have to try and downgrade
Hope this helps, it's only what I can gather.
Regards
Austin
how does one downgrade or upgrade?
Guess, that SPL is something like hardware abstraction layer software, platform &chip dependent.
austin.tovey said:
IPL = Initial Program Loader, this is the bootloader
SPL = System Programming Language (I Think), Not sure exactly what this does. Its has something to do with the Chip, in the Prophets case.
G3 chip ends in .001 or G4 ends in .001.
I have IPL 1.0 but my SPL is 2.15.000 (i.e I have a G3 chip)
I also know higher SPL's are a pain to unlock, you have to try and downgrade
Hope this helps, it's only what I can gather.
Regards
Austin
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Austin, you are right, just one thing. The Chip G3 ends in 000 and the G4, ends in 001.
What's the risk of flashing a Prophet G4 with a G3 ROM, or a Prophet G3 with a G4 ROM?
Phoenix2000 said:
What's the risk of flashing a Prophet G4 with a G3 ROM, or a Prophet G3 with a G4 ROM?
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Your service centre may be kind enough to repair the phone under warranty if you manage to do this mistake. The phone will not start again if you flash it with the wrong IPL/SPL and without specialised equipment a main board replacement is the only solution to this.
(I did this myself and it took the service centre three weeks to fix it. I guess they struggled with their JTAG cables and then gave up and just replaced the board instead.)
The most of service centers does nothing but changing boards, display and other parts, and do some software loads via USB. Most of the services has no even JTAG equipment nor documentation on how to load the flash via JTAG.
What could be the differences between IPL/SPL versions?
Like I have IPL ánd SPL: 2.10.0001
While most people here on the board seem to have 2.15.0001
Also saw some ROM upgrades (the pdamobiz one for instance) which says it's for 2.15.0001. Although on their english forum it says 2.xx.0001, but not in the file
And while I'm at it (another sneak question ), I guess the pdamobiz rom (aku 2.3) upgrades the device to os: 2.15.13.27 right?
IPL = Initial Program Loader
SPL = Second Program Loader (System Programing Language does not make any sense)
IPL Trigger SPL and then SPL activate the OS
They do the Hardware check-around and hang up if something wrong happens.
check pic
check picture with DOC boot sequence
can someone help me to find IPL 2.15 for G3 prophet
I flashed my Dopod 818 Pro with lvsw's AKU2.3 & AKU2.3.1 and my SPL was changed to 2.20.0001 while IPL was kept 2.15.0001. I wanted to install the official Dopod AKU2.0 ROM back but it failed. I used ROMUpdateUtility.exe and it failed since initialization. If I used ROMUpdateUtility_No_VID.exe it failed at 95% which I believe the official .nbf file has some conflicts with SPL.
And I can't downgrade SPL back to 2.15.0001.
I saw some thread saying that there's no mean to downgrade G4 chip.
Does it mean I have to use AKU2.3 from now on?
Nut110 said:
I saw some thread saying that there's no mean to downgrade G4 chip.
Does it mean I have to use AKU2.3 from now on?
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No. Search this forum. There is a procedure for updating a G4 phone without touching the IPL/SPL areas. Be careful though! A mistake when attempting to upgrade your PDA may result in it being downgraded to a paper weight!
I have A Wing and I Dont see the IPL/SPL when I start it up, I downloaded the wizard service tool but It doesnt seem to work( "Warning!
A device was detected but one (or both) of RAPICommunications and Applications Policy isn'tenabled. Use first button for that purpose and try again") Ive Hard reseted it and enabled RAPI + unsigned APPS but it still wont work so Is there some other way to Get the IPL/SPL? Thanks.
never Mind I didnt enable the cab file within My wing Thnxs XDA Community ^_^
I was wondering how do I find out what IPL or SPL I have on my wing??
I have read the related topic about Prophet that it has G3 and G4 model. However, can someone tell me the difference of G3 and G4? Thanks!
Please read at XDA Wiki. There got information that you need. Thanks
The different betwen G3 and G4 is the used Disk On Chip IC. They have different Adressing Modes and use different True FFS Driver Settings. If you brick your Phone, the IPL doesnt found the right entry point to Jump in the SPL to Boot the Bootloader Mode or the OS. If i get a bricket or damage board i can search for JTAG Points to reflash a damage Device.
It has been some time since I have been here and was wondering.
For someone who lives in California. AT&T
OS 1933
using TNT Build 18533.0.7.0
What is the best
Radio Version
IPL Version
SPI Version
to use. With the lease amount of errors.
And should I upgrade to the new TNT version? What is the benefits?
Thank you.
Firstly, taht is IPL and SPL, don't get it wrong.
IPL and SPL is currently at 3.08, which should be best for WM6 and WM6.1 OS ROMs.
For Radio, just use the one that get best reception as soon as it is 2.xx.
IPL & SPLfor Wizard G4
Could you please help to get latest IPL /SPL for G4 device
there is no ipl spl for g4 as far as i have seen of course i haven't been in wiz section much but dont flash any ipl spl my opinion possible bricking
ph03n1x said:
there is no ipl spl for g4 as far as i have seen of course i haven't been in wiz section much but dont flash any ipl spl my opinion possible bricking
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i second that .. no ipl/spl for g4 device except for olip version from hard spl ..
the radio is a network dependent selection .. choose from the ones in the ftp
i used almost all of them and the only one that worked perfect for me was the 2.19 .. find it in my signature
also i advice to use tnt rom .. also found in my signature .. it's great !
finally .. please dont brick ur device with ipl/spl installation ... it will brick it!
Hi guys.
I have this iMate Kjam (Not mine). It was with a T Mobile Official ROM and has IPL/SPL at v2.26. I checked and there was no G4 sign anywhere. Someone had to remove the CID thing to this. I downloaded several WM6 ROMs but once the complete flashing and the device reboots, I'm still in the T-Mobile ROM. I down-flashed to the age-old Button Love WM5 base ROM and here is the ROM status:
IPL: 1.01
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 1.12.10
OS: 1.5.4.2
If I upgrade from this point with, let's say, TNT5.0, here is what happens:
IPL: 1.01
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 1.12.10
OS: 1.5.4.2
Same right? but all the graphics change when booting. There is the HTC logo when device is turned on and there is the TNT 5.0 "BOOM" title when OS is loading (with the IPL/SPL/GSM/Radio)
Can someone tell me what is going on? HardSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320) clearly tells me that device is NOT G4
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Hi guys.
I have this iMate Kjam (Not mine). It was with a T Mobile Official ROM and has IPL/SPL at v2.26. I checked and there was no G4 sign anywhere. Someone had to remove the CID thing to this. I downloaded several WM6 ROMs but once the complete flashing and the device reboots, I'm still in the T-Mobile ROM. I down-flashed to the age-old Button Love WM5 base ROM and here is the ROM status:
IPL: 1.01
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 1.12.10
OS: 1.5.4.2
If I upgrade from this point with, let's say, TNT5.0, here is what happens:
IPL: 1.01
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 1.12.10
OS: 1.5.4.2
Same right? but all the graphics change when booting. There is the HTC logo when device is turned on and there is the TNT 5.0 "BOOM" title when OS is loading (with the IPL/SPL/GSM/Radio)
Can someone tell me what is going on? HardSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320) clearly tells me that device is NOT G4
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Update:
I was able to install the official T-Mobile ROM onto Button Love ROM. Here is the screen statistics:
IPL: 2.26
SPL: 2.26
GSM: 02.25.11
OS: 2.26.10.2
If I try to upgrade to WM6 now, nothing will happen as I've already tried. After the flash process, it will still be official TMobile...
What should I do now? If I compare the properties of this Wizard with my own, I'm pretty sure this should be a G4 device.
Flash Buttons ROM again and do a CID unlock. That's it! Have fun!
I have a G3, but I had to flash Button twice so that the IPL/SPL matched, then I unlocked and reflashed 2.26 stock (again be sure that IPL/SPL match numbers), then from there I joined rom flashers anonymous!
akashastrega said:
I have a G3, but I had to flash Button twice so that the IPL/SPL matched, then I unlocked and reflashed 2.26 stock (again be sure that IPL/SPL match numbers), then from there I joined rom flashers anonymous!
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Trying the Button Love ROM the third time... the SPL just won't drop... whats going on?
Cyberdyne said:
Flash Buttons ROM again and do a CID unlock. That's it! Have fun!
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The only avaliable HardSPL tool doesn't recognize the device as G4... so how do I forced CID unlock? I tried SoftSPL... but at that time, my IPL and SPL were different...
Lets face the situation
IF you have
IPL 2.26 or 1.xx
SPL 2.26 or 2.XX
You have a G3 device - forget do not use Hard SPL or Soft SPL, these are ONLY FOR G4 DEVICES
Since you have a G3 Device you have 2 options
If you have IPL 1.xx and SPL 2.xx . use WST (Wizard Service Tools) to unlock your CID device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170
Note that only with IPL 1.xx you are hable to unlock your CID with WST
If you have IPL 2.xx and SPL 2.xx, than you must downgrade both to IPL/SPL 1.xx with an official ROM
Before you do something, install WST in you PC, and check the real situation of your device
Pisca said:
Lets face the situation
IF you have
IPL 2.26 or 1.xx
SPL 2.26 or 2.XX
You have a G3 device - forget do not use Hard SPL or Soft SPL, these are ONLY FOR G4 DEVICES
Since you have a G3 Device you have 2 options
If you have IPL 1.xx and SPL 2.xx . use WST (Wizard Service Tools) to unlock your CID device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170
Note that only with IPL 1.xx you are hable to unlock your CID with WST
If you have IPL 2.xx and SPL 2.xx, than you must downgrade both to IPL/SPL 1.xx with an official ROM
Before you do something, install WST in you PC, and check the real situation of your device
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Excellent.
If I'm on Button Love ROM, I have IPL v1.x ad SPL v2.x
Should I upgrade to WM6 from here?
If not, then I have to upgrade to Officia T-Mobile ROm. Then IPL/SPL = v2.26 but WM6 won't flash...
Ah ! c'mon guys
Give this guy a break.
Doomer D. Great
Go read and fully undrstand this guide to CID unlock your phone and upgrade.
BTW,its a G3 phone you got there,forget anything about G4,you are only concern shud be regarding G3 device.
Doomer D. Great
Go read and fully undrstand this guide to CID unlock your phone and upgrade.
BTW,its a G3 phone you got there,forget anything about G4,you are only concern shud be regarding G3 device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
zabardast_1 said:
Doomer D. Great
Go read and fully undrstand this guide to CID unlock your phone and upgrade.
BTW,its a G3 phone you got there,forget anything about G4,you are only concern shud be regarding G3 device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
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Actually, I followed what Pisca said about using WT and it worked... in Button Love, I finally CID unlocked and upgraded to Official TMobile. Then TNT5.0. All Well
Thank you very much!
Problem solved
Doomer D. Great said:
Excellent.
If I'm on Button Love ROM, I have IPL v1.x ad SPL v2.x
Should I upgrade to WM6 from here?
If not, then I have to upgrade to Officia T-Mobile ROm. Then IPL/SPL = v2.26 but WM6 won't flash...
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Ok, if you are on IPL 1.xx and SPL 2.xx, you can use WST-Wizard Service Tool 4.2.2 to CID unlock
Then you should load a carrier ROm T-Mobile to get IPL/SPL 2.xx
But allways read as mentioned in the previous post
Doomer D. Great said:
Actually, I followed what Pisca said about using WT and it worked... in Button Love, I finally CID unlocked and upgraded to Official TMobile. Then TNT5.0. All Well
Thank you very much!
Problem solved
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Great forget my last post
I am trying to CID unlock my phone in order to flash ROM on my HTC Wing (Tmobile).Current ROM version is OpentouchV7.6BP WWE and I want to flash WM6 on to it. My IPL reads 4.26.0002 and SPL reads 4.70.yang. The IPL is in G4 format but when I use WST_v4.2.2 (WizardServiceTool), it says that my phone is G3. I am confused as to whether my phone is G3 or G4.
I would be thankful for any help in this regard.
Welcome to forums
Have a deep read here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Herald
Hope it helps.
Good luck,