I have read the related topic about Prophet that it has G3 and G4 model. However, can someone tell me the difference of G3 and G4? Thanks!
Please read at XDA Wiki. There got information that you need. Thanks
The different betwen G3 and G4 is the used Disk On Chip IC. They have different Adressing Modes and use different True FFS Driver Settings. If you brick your Phone, the IPL doesnt found the right entry point to Jump in the SPL to Boot the Bootloader Mode or the OS. If i get a bricket or damage board i can search for JTAG Points to reflash a damage Device.
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Hi, I was testing and mixing some new and old ROM's but now I can not fix the IPL, I mean, I wanto to go back to 2.15.0000 - G3, or 2.15.0001 - G4, at these moment I have the 1.0. Now I'm totally lost, give me a hand to fix these problem who is going to make me crazy.
My device is CID unlock.
Hi, I am just curious, how did you CID unlock your prophet? Mine is a G4 device. I have tried a while, but could not find a solution to downgrade and CID unlock it.
Thanks.
coolfire74 said:
Hi, I am just curious, how did you CID unlock your prophet? Mine is a G4 device. I have tried a while, but could not find a solution to downgrade and CID unlock it.
Thanks.
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If you want to CID unlock your device, you must visit the Wiki, there you will find many tools that allow you to unlock your device. Here can you get more information abaout how, in only 10 steps: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades
In the Wiki place, can you leran more about your device.
I'm looking to reach the G4 chip but I can't. I tryed many, many times, but no way.
Hope that I can solution your curious.
Regards,
cidriver said:
If you want to CID unlock your device, you must visit the Wiki, there you will find many tools that allow you to unlock your device. Here can you get more information abaout how, in only 10 steps: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades
In the Wiki place, can you leran more about your device.
I'm looking to reach the G4 chip but I can't. I tryed many, many times, but no way.
Hope that I can solution your curious.
Regards,
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, I checked the Wiki, but there is no solution for G4.
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Hi, I was testing and mixing some new and old ROM's but now I can not fix the IPL, I mean, I wanto to go back to 2.15.0000 - G3, or 2.15.0001 - G4, at these moment I have the 1.0. Now I'm totally lost, give me a hand to fix these problem who is going to make me crazy.
My device is CID unlock.
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Your device is with the G3 there is no way you can get 2.15.0001 that is for device with G4 chip.
As for the IPL in version 1.0 it is fine, you do not need anything higher than version 1.0 to use any of the rom available for G3 chip. IPL will be upgraded if is available from any official rom. It does not enchance any function you get from using any rom available here.
Thank you very much, I'll try to upgrade to the new AKU3.2 and then let me tell you my impresions.
Once again, thank you!
I have a G4 device with WM6 PDAVIET which is the latest IPL i can get?
thanks!
Searching the forum for these words gives too many replies. So I would appreciate it if someone would explain what IPL and SPL exactly are. On my Prophet IPL = 2.10.001 and SPL = 2.15.001. Should they not be the same, and if yes, how can I upgrade IPL only (whatever it is).
Who will shed some light on this?
IPL = Initial Program Loader, this is the bootloader
SPL = System Programming Language (I Think), Not sure exactly what this does. Its has something to do with the Chip, in the Prophets case.
G3 chip ends in .000 or G4 ends in .001.
I have IPL 1.0 but my SPL is 2.15.000 (i.e I have a G3 chip)
I also know higher SPL's are a pain to unlock, you have to try and downgrade
Hope this helps, it's only what I can gather.
Regards
Austin
how does one downgrade or upgrade?
Guess, that SPL is something like hardware abstraction layer software, platform &chip dependent.
austin.tovey said:
IPL = Initial Program Loader, this is the bootloader
SPL = System Programming Language (I Think), Not sure exactly what this does. Its has something to do with the Chip, in the Prophets case.
G3 chip ends in .001 or G4 ends in .001.
I have IPL 1.0 but my SPL is 2.15.000 (i.e I have a G3 chip)
I also know higher SPL's are a pain to unlock, you have to try and downgrade
Hope this helps, it's only what I can gather.
Regards
Austin
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Austin, you are right, just one thing. The Chip G3 ends in 000 and the G4, ends in 001.
What's the risk of flashing a Prophet G4 with a G3 ROM, or a Prophet G3 with a G4 ROM?
Phoenix2000 said:
What's the risk of flashing a Prophet G4 with a G3 ROM, or a Prophet G3 with a G4 ROM?
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Your service centre may be kind enough to repair the phone under warranty if you manage to do this mistake. The phone will not start again if you flash it with the wrong IPL/SPL and without specialised equipment a main board replacement is the only solution to this.
(I did this myself and it took the service centre three weeks to fix it. I guess they struggled with their JTAG cables and then gave up and just replaced the board instead.)
The most of service centers does nothing but changing boards, display and other parts, and do some software loads via USB. Most of the services has no even JTAG equipment nor documentation on how to load the flash via JTAG.
What could be the differences between IPL/SPL versions?
Like I have IPL ánd SPL: 2.10.0001
While most people here on the board seem to have 2.15.0001
Also saw some ROM upgrades (the pdamobiz one for instance) which says it's for 2.15.0001. Although on their english forum it says 2.xx.0001, but not in the file
And while I'm at it (another sneak question ), I guess the pdamobiz rom (aku 2.3) upgrades the device to os: 2.15.13.27 right?
IPL = Initial Program Loader
SPL = Second Program Loader (System Programing Language does not make any sense)
IPL Trigger SPL and then SPL activate the OS
They do the Hardware check-around and hang up if something wrong happens.
check pic
check picture with DOC boot sequence
can someone help me to find IPL 2.15 for G3 prophet
I flashed my Dopod 818 Pro with lvsw's AKU2.3 & AKU2.3.1 and my SPL was changed to 2.20.0001 while IPL was kept 2.15.0001. I wanted to install the official Dopod AKU2.0 ROM back but it failed. I used ROMUpdateUtility.exe and it failed since initialization. If I used ROMUpdateUtility_No_VID.exe it failed at 95% which I believe the official .nbf file has some conflicts with SPL.
And I can't downgrade SPL back to 2.15.0001.
I saw some thread saying that there's no mean to downgrade G4 chip.
Does it mean I have to use AKU2.3 from now on?
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I saw some thread saying that there's no mean to downgrade G4 chip.
Does it mean I have to use AKU2.3 from now on?
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No. Search this forum. There is a procedure for updating a G4 phone without touching the IPL/SPL areas. Be careful though! A mistake when attempting to upgrade your PDA may result in it being downgraded to a paper weight!
I have A Wing and I Dont see the IPL/SPL when I start it up, I downloaded the wizard service tool but It doesnt seem to work( "Warning!
A device was detected but one (or both) of RAPICommunications and Applications Policy isn'tenabled. Use first button for that purpose and try again") Ive Hard reseted it and enabled RAPI + unsigned APPS but it still wont work so Is there some other way to Get the IPL/SPL? Thanks.
never Mind I didnt enable the cab file within My wing Thnxs XDA Community ^_^
I was wondering how do I find out what IPL or SPL I have on my wing??
can anybody port this to prophet ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
would be REALLY useful for the guys (like me) who applied ipl/spl 3.08 without reading the thread. + many, many other future occasions
The idea is that with this little thingy + the way to start a bricked prophet into boot loader (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=292667) would result in.......yes, you've guessed it....NO MORE BRICKED PROPHETS !!!!
also, is it possible to write the spl's (there seem to be two in each rom, *spl_1.nb, *spl_2.nb) directly with pdocwrite ? if so, what would the address offset be ?
I have a Qtek S200 G3 model.
A friend of mine was an idiot and flashed it with a G4 ROM.
Now all I see is the tri-color screen saying
IPL 2.10
SPL 2.20.0001
What can be done in order to restore this phone??
Please help??!!
Will no-one help??
RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID.exe try to find this file
Tried this, but the flashing failed.
noonas said:
I have a Qtek S200 G3 model.
A friend of mine was an idiot and flashed it with a G4 ROM.
Now all I see is the tri-color screen saying
IPL 2.10
SPL 2.20.0001
What can be done in order to restore this phone??
Please help??!!
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Probably you shouldn't have given it to your friend....There must be a fix somewhere.
I'd be asking your friend to find it. Good luck.
try this
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_recovery
It may not help with mixing the G3 and G4 up.....
I am afraid the phone is bricked, as i seem to remember from the time i had my Prophet, flashing with the wrong G type firmware cause an irrevirsible brickage as they are completley different chips on the actual device... someone had a "gold card" method they were researching but i dont think it really got anywhere!
mm the prohet is bricked im afraid. I have read many posts in the past in the prohet mobile 6 section, if you go through the posts and spend some time you will see the advice given to those unfortunate souls who did the same thing.....
Give them all a go, you have nothing to loose!
no problem
don't wory my frind i fixe my device and you can just try a rom with no VondorID they have 3 i fond in the forum the first don't work for me but the 2 work very well !!
don't wory don't wory don't wory
Is there any one able to read between the lines I need someone can seeing problem not reading surly there are too much faced the same problem and there a tons of trying.
Actually problem is that.. My JAMin is G3 chipset.. But.. truth to tell; I hardspl it with G4 flash to see what will happening..! Now;
IPL: 1.00
SPL: 2.G4.4PDA
( bootloader ) since 2 years ago and no more than and tons of trying and when I run a hardspl for G3 as usual 1- invalid tools / 2- when trying the original ROM it stopped at 80% and check the NBF / 3- when I run downgrade.bat I see the ( cmd ) dialog and it says would you like to try copy again when intlizing my dead JAMin I never gave up yet and useless no matter what I do. NOW; I am digging my JAMin grave..!
my JAMin is detect as G4 chipset.. but it is G3
correct me if im wrong.. you flashed your G3 device with something thats meant for a G4 device?
well if thats the case this is a problem for you since you flashed a wrong thingy in your device. its bricked somehow... and you need some JTAG PINS for you to be able to revive your phone...
im sure there are lots of topics that are made and youre not alone who has this problem... good thing there is a SEARCH button up there better check that out... coz i havent bricked my prophet yet
yea I did it you .....
try 2 do the same its easy just run hard spl G4 that's it man lol
Marek... can you help me please or someone in somewhere online
your in a tight situation dude... you bricked your device by flashing a G4 software on your device G3. remember that G3/G4 is a chipset and it will only run if you flash a correct software that is if your device is G3 you should have flashed a software for G3 devices only...
i cant help you with this coz reviving a dead device like in your situation is somehow difficult for me... what i would advice you to do is to bring this device to a qualified HTC technician that knows what to do...
thats why in this forum ROM developers always say "take note if your device is G3 or G4 or else you would brick your device"
do take it to a technician he knows what to do...
best of luck