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Best IM client that doesn't use SMS/text mesages?

Hi there.
I don't have a texting plan, but would like to be able to sign on AIM and IM my friends.
However, I am worried that if the wi-fi gets cut off, the message will be sent as a text message and I would be charged.
Do you guys know any clients that do use only data?
Thank you!

bozeefus said:
Hi there.
I don't have a texting plan, but would like to be able to sign on AIM and IM my friends.
However, I am worried that if the wi-fi gets cut off, the message will be sent as a text message and I would be charged.
Do you guys know any clients that do use only data?
Thank you!
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AFAIK, the only IM clinet that uses SMS is OZ. All the others use data. For me, Jivetalk gets my vote followed by Slick.

kareem9nba said:
AFAIK, the only IM clinet that uses SMS is OZ. All the others use data. For me, Jivetalk gets my vote followed my Slick.
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ah interesting.
and since u are a moderator, i am sure you are right
i took a look at jivetalk and the interface looks really nice. also, windows mobile version is free will be installing it now!

can sprint tell when i wireless teather?

Simple question I just want to make sure I don't get extra charges for teathering to my laptop every once in a while when the laptop would be easier.

not unless you call them and tell them

ukn0wnscaa said:
Simple question I just want to make sure I don't get extra charges for teathering to my laptop every once in a while when the laptop would be easier.
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of course they can. the real question is do they really care?! i remember a thread with one person touting something like 50GB of use in a single month...

so they really wont care if I use my phone as a wireless hot spot for temporary usage for like email or playing online with my PSP or something...awesome. Thanks

Negrito said:
of course they can. the real question is do they really care?! i remember a thread with one person touting something like 50GB of use in a single month...
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They can probably tell when your usage jumps up like that, but thats it.
50gbs? Thats nothing, I average 2~3 sometimes 5 gbs a day, and I try to take it easy when I tether

Vrekk said:
They can probably tell when your usage jumps up like that, but thats it.
50gbs? Thats nothing, I average 2~3 sometimes 5 gbs a day, and I try to take it easy when I tether
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Sometimes I use over 15GB/mo. just on my phone. They probably don't care. I read that with WiMax they're not even going to have a bandwidth limit, so you can download and tether to your heart's content. I'm definitely looking forward to that.

Lol, I'm pretty sure 50GB was the guy who was considered the lightweight. I'm almost positive I read a guy using over 100GB, and Sprint didn't do anything. That kind of stuff just makes me laugh.

Nodata said:
Sometimes I use over 15GB/mo. just on my phone. They probably don't care. I read that with WiMax they're not even going to have a bandwidth limit, so you can download and tether to your heart's content. I'm definitely looking forward to that.
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I cant wait for the SuperSonic! I live in Vegas and already have WiMax through Clear. Can't wait for that shlt on my phone!

I thought sprint had a 5GB limit stated in their terms and conditions.

Negrito said:
I cant wait for the SuperSonic! I live in Vegas and already have WiMax through Clear. Can't wait for that shlt on my phone!
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You're lucky you get WiMax already.... I don't live in a city, so regular 3g for me..... They also can't tell if you tether UNLESS you use built-in MNS.

akijikan said:
I thought sprint had a 5GB limit stated in their terms and conditions.
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Yeah here's an article on the 5gb limit

HeroMeng said:
You're lucky you get WiMax already.... I don't live in a city, so regular 3g for me..... They also can't tell if you tether UNLESS you use built-in MNS.
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MNS?
akijikan said:
I thought sprint had a 5GB limit stated in their terms and conditions.
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Data Cards. Not phones.

Negrito said:
MNS?
Data Cards. Not phones.
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MNS is Mobile Network Sharing. Internet Sharing on fresh 2.0.
They can tell if you tether with that. On wireless tether, it just looks like normal data usage.

HeroMeng said:
MNS is Mobile Network Sharing. Internet Sharing on fresh 2.0.
They can tell if you tether with that. On wireless tether, it just looks like normal data usage.
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How can they tell? Not trying to be a smartass, just curiuos.

HeroMeng said:
MNS is Mobile Network Sharing. Internet Sharing on fresh 2.0.
They can tell if you tether with that. On wireless tether, it just looks like normal data usage.
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Ahhh, i knew that. Im not quite sober though, so i couldnt think of what MNS stood for. lol.

I have used my Hero Tethered to my Laptop *thus giving it internet access.
then through the LAN port on the laptop supply internet access to my 360 which I use to play MW2
I used 15GB in 1 night sprint never said anything.

RPerry435 said:
I have used my Hero Tethered to my Laptop *thus giving it internet access.
then through the LAN port on the laptop supply internet access to my 360 which I use to play MW2
I used 15GB in 1 night sprint never said anything.
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I literally just finished doing this. Some lag, but my I just moved here and my internet hasn't been installed yet.

I need a rollover cable to get my PS3 bridged in.

churraman said:
How can they tell? Not trying to be a smartass, just curiuos.
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I believe it signals your carrier or goes through a different set of ports. Either way, I tried this on a 1.5 rom and my phone wouldn't connect to EVDOs for an hour. Scary.

ldleblanc said:
I literally just finished doing this. Some lag, but my I just moved here and my internet hasn't been installed yet.
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I just did this. No lag on halo for me. NHL had some lag. It is awesome.

Modified IM app

I have been testing different IM apps, but all of them have some issue that makes them less than Ideal.
In actuality, the old stock IM app from the G1 always worked best for me. It was reliable, didn't disconnect constantly, and didn't seem to kill the battery as fast.
Is there anything like that, or a mod'ed version that will work on the Nexus?
I've searched for and apk, and asked over in the general section, with no luck.

Enomther's rom comes with it.
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Ebuddy.
Works great.

amd_203 said:
Enomther's rom comes with it.
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I will see if I can pull it out of the ROM and install... I'm still stock ATM, I may root soon though.
Henchman said:
Ebuddy.
Works great.
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It works well, but I can not change the notifications; and the sound is based on the media volume for some reason. Plus it can not use the proper names for yahoo contacts.

Well I pulled the IM apk from the ROM and it installed fine, but it will not sign on. It force closes when you try to sign on, though still remains running on the screen, and you can interact with the program.
Guess it would need Mod'ed to work on non-root, or maybe pushed to the system partition. Can't push with locked bootloader, so would need it to be Mod'ed.
Any devs out there know if this app needs to be in the system partition?

Henchman said:
Ebuddy.
Works great.
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The last time I tried it my battery life was dropping like crazy.

paulk_ said:
The last time I tried it my battery life was dropping like crazy.
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Another reason I want the stock IM app. It uses sms to work, so after the initial login, there is no or next to no data use; being that sms is a push type service, it does not need to poll for new IMs.
I posted this in the dev section for a reason, but they moved it... ah well. Maybe a dev will pop in here and give it a shot.

i did an im.apk search here and found the original and have been running it for a while now.messenger doesnt always want to sign in but yahoo works fine

superg81 said:
i did an im.apk search here and found the original and have been running it for a while now.messenger doesnt always want to sign in but yahoo works fine
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Were at? I need lol

Marine6680 said:
Another reason I want the stock IM app. It uses sms to work, so after the initial login, there is no or next to no data use; being that sms is a push type service, it does not need to poll for new IMs.
I posted this in the dev section for a reason, but they moved it... ah well. Maybe a dev will pop in here and give it a shot.
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since it is based on SMS, you must be charged for SMS by your telco right?

faizalmzain said:
since it is based on SMS, you must be charged for SMS by your telco right?
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Yes, but I have an unlimited plan, so I can send as many as I want.
And SMS are the biggest money makers for these companies. A recent study showed that the cost to actually send an SMS is zero. The only costs the companies have is the cost of setting up the software needed to operate the SMS functions in their systems and the cost of some servers and storage needed to hold the data as it is being sent to users (like if you send a SMS to someone without signal, they must store the info until it can be sent, and its only a few kb) I think the costs of the setup was recouped within a few months and now its pretty much all profit. Sly dogs they are (some places charge $0.25 per SMS out of plan)
Sorry had to rant...

Ouch. Thought I'd be able to use this wonderful sounding app that you've been talking about but I don't have an unlimited sms plan lol.

SMS tends to be my main form of communication on the phone, so I got the unlimited plan. The tmobile everything plus plans are not that bad price wise; more so when you don't get unlimited airtime as well. I don't need a lot of airtime because the people I talk to most just use SMS.

I'm thinking the new radio in 2.2 is not letting the IM app work properly.

[REQ] Videotron Illico

Videotron just released their 3G network in Quebec and it appears as if they'll have an Illico app that goes with their smartphones.
If anyone gets the N1 from them, PLEASE rip the app.
Thanks!

are you sure videotron are offering the N1?
Or did you mean if anyone is going to use their N1 on Videotron's network?

h_zee13 said:
are you sure videotron are offering the N1?
Or did you mean if anyone is going to use their N1 on Videotron's network?
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Check the website! Their network launched today and they have the N1.

yeah i just checked it....the plans aren't that good in my opinion

h_zee13 said:
yeah i just checked it....the plans aren't that good in my opinion
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unl incoming and outgoing calls and txt plus 50mb(few mail i guess) for 39.95$ with and nexus one for 99$ not that good!!!??? i would like to know whats your definition of good...

d.brown said:
unl incoming and outgoing calls and txt plus 50mb(few mail i guess) for 39.95$ with and nexus one for 99$ not that good!!!??? i would like to know whats your definition of good...
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That also depends on how many services you have with them. It's that price if you have all 3 services, $42.50 if you have 2 services and so on.
Still waiting for someone to rip this!

+1
have unlocked N1 on videotron's network. would love to be able to access my illico box from the phone.

the_canuck said:
+1
have unlocked N1 on videotron's network. would love to be able to access my illico box from the phone.
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Boutiquemobile.videotron.com
Download on the right. You have to give your cell number for a text message to download it.
Enjoy!

Wow, jealous in Toronto.
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rickytenzer said:
Boutiquemobile.videotron.com
Download on the right. You have to give your cell number for a text message to download it.
Enjoy!
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thanks. pretty disappointed that this doesn't run on wifi. probably for authentication issues, but there are easy ways to get around that.

the_canuck said:
thanks. pretty disappointed that this doesn't run on wifi. probably for authentication issues, but there are easy ways to get around that.
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Any chance you can rip the .apk for me?

rickytenzer said:
Videotron just released their 3G network in Quebec and it appears as if they'll have an Illico app that goes with their smartphones.
If anyone gets the N1 from them, PLEASE rip the app.
Thanks!
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I doubt they will allow access from outside their own network to use it.
If you need to access to your ilico or any other source on your system use a slingbox.
you can get one for under 300$ and listen to any tv show on the road (if you have a good data plan) their app is great as well! and no monthly fee..
P.s. if you check future shop they are way too expensive...

rickytenzer said:
Any chance you can rip the .apk for me?
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i've got the apk, but i'm not sure if they embed the account info in each apk.

Upload it an we'll find out!

I know I'm bumping a very old thread, but thought I might help.

don`t work on a none videotron network

We have to use their ****ty network if we want to use this android app. What is this dumb company. If you have telus or bell you just load the app on the market and use it...

Why is video so compressed in MMS?

I'm coming from IOS and I didn't expect this to be a problem at all. Whenever I send or recieve a video is so compressed that you can barley see what's going on. I don't hear much about this. Are android users pretending this isn't an issue?

10pmStalker said:
I'm coming from IOS and I didn't expect this to be a problem at all. Whenever I send or recieve a video is so compressed that you can barley see what's going on. I don't hear much about this. Are android users pretending this isn't an issue?
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Although iMessage handles SMS for iPhones (that's why you can still get texts from people without iPhones), iMessage doesn't use MMS (well, it can, but between iMessage clients, it doesn't). It uses your cellular data or wifi. MMS is different, and has limitations. It has nothing to do with Android.
You're perfectly free to use a different messenger service on Android that doesn't have MMS limitations, but of course the receiving party also has to use that app.

There's no fix to this with being rooted?

10pmStalker said:
There's no fix to this with being rooted?
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Completely unrelated. Use a different messaging app or just email the video.

Planterz said:
Completely unrelated. Use a different messaging app or just email the video.
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Do you know of another messaging app that won't downgrade the video?

10pmStalker said:
Do you know of another messaging app that won't downgrade the video?
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Take your pick of any of them. The issue with doing it with mms is that carriers put limits on them. Like ATT has a 600kb limit, I think T-mobile has like 1 mb. You could use things like whatsapp or others.

zelendel said:
Take your pick of any of them. The issue with doing it with mms is that carriers put limits on them. Like ATT has a 600kb limit, I think T-mobile has like 1 mb. You could use things like whatsapp or others.
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I don't know anyone that dosent use straight up carrier texting or imessage. I'm guessing we will never see good quality video transfer over carrier?

10pmStalker said:
I don't know anyone that dosent use straight up carrier texting or imessage. I'm guessing we will never see good quality video transfer over carrier?
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Most likely not. I am the same way and now no longer send video over mms. Many people are slowly moving over to things like whatsapp

Most Android users simply don't use MMS. Who would they, when apps like Whatsapp offer a free alternative?
Mind you, Whatsapp also downscales images and videos.
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ShadowLea said:
Most Android users simply don't use MMS. Who would they, when apps like Whatsapp offer a free alternative?
Mind you, Whatsapp also downscales images and videos.
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Because in the US we get unlimited messaging and limited data. Data plans in the states are limited so its cheaper to use mms then it is for apps like whatsapp. Not o mention with facebook buying whats app many avoid it now.

zelendel said:
Because in the US we get unlimited messaging and limited data. Data plans in the states are limited so its cheaper to use mms then it is for apps like whatsapp. Not o mention with facebook buying whats app many avoid it now.
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We get unlimited messaging, too. But MMS services here require data to send and retrieve. We don't have unlimited data either. 10GB is the largest plan, and it costs about 70 euro a month.
There hasn't actually been that much of a decline in Whatsapp users. There was at first, but most went back to Whatsapp due to the lack of decent, large alternatives and the fact that 80% doesn't bother with privacy when it requires effort.
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ShadowLea said:
We get unlimited messaging, too. But MMS services here require data to send and retrieve. We don't have unlimited data either. 10GB is the largest plan, and it costs about 70 euro a month.
There hasn't actually been that much of a decline in Whatsapp users. There was at first, but most went back to Whatsapp due to the lack of decent, large alternatives and the fact that 80% doesn't bother with privacy when it requires effort.
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It uses data here to but it's included in the SMS package. The average data plan on non contract devices here is like 2gb before they throttle you. Then data becomes almost unusable. You can get bigger limits with contracts but then you pay a stupid amount.