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Doessomeone know a website where we can check mobile phones 2D performances benchmarks ? I know that for 3D www.glbenchmark.com is perfect but I'd like to compare phones on 2D (And potentially other stuff)
If someone knows some sites with a good database that woud be great
Thanks
Anyone ? It seems really hard to find
You may want to have a look at this page.
It offers benchmarking using openvg technology
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511363
babijoee said:
You may want to have a look at this page.
It offers benchmarking using openvg technology
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511363
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Thanks, the original site I mentionned gives also benchmarks for 3D performance
I was rtaer interetsed in 2D performance (Since for everyday life that's what counts...)
I would like to know if anyone has tried any type of gaming with your windows 7 machine via remote desktop on home network?
I was thinking about something like bauldurs gate, Diablo, or heck....even WoW possibly.
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I don't think you'll get too good of a result with that; especially over Wi-Fi. Networks speeds just aren't fast enough to transfer >30 fps (which you need for a smooth gaming experience ). They might just be playable if you turn the resolution way down but then you're going to lose a heck of a lot of quality.
Not what you might consider gaming, but I've played around with Flight Sim X across the network using Splashtop, and it was pretty flyable. (Well, apart from the fact I don't have a bluetooth joystick, and don't know that Splashtop would support it even if I did.)
this is only an idea, i get bored and start thinking about weird but cool things mixed toguether maybe you guys can make similar things that you would love to have, just download your favorite stuff mix them on photoshop, try them itll be fun
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That would be crazy.
It would be awesome to have that, but hacks for the 3DS are more likely(non atm)
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3ds and ds. Have pointless processors. Might get a donut from running on them but not ics.
Trade it in and get something the Samsung galaxy media thing.
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This would be any better than the cheapest of android phones.
iammodo said:
3ds and ds. Have pointless processors. Might get a donut from running on them but not ics.
Trade it in and get something the Samsung galaxy media thing.
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heinzdembowski said:
This would be any better than the cheapest of android phones.
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I feel it important to point out (despite having exactly the opposite feelings myself) that quite a lot of hardware huggers and geeks have an extremely strong emotional attachment to 'Nintardo' and all its 'cute products'. The emotional attachment is often so strong that it blinds, obscures and ultimately completely overrides normal levels of good sense and intelligence.
That would be cool to have, but once icons get to the top screen it would be near impossible to move them off it since its not touch sensitive.
Guru Zeb said:
I feel it important to point out (despite having exactly the opposite feelings myself) that quite a lot of hardware huggers and geeks have an extremely strong emotional attachment to 'Nintardo' and all its 'cute products'. The emotional attachment is often so strong that it blinds, obscures and ultimately completely overrides normal levels of good sense and intelligence.
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I don't get how zenonia 4 can be free but Zelda on 3ds is over £20.
I have Mario mushroom tattoos but haven't had a Nintendo since then n64 and gameboy advance.
Weak hardware and tired games.
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Wow just looked the dsi has a 133mhz processor. It can't run any form of android. No wonder the games as so weak.
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iammodo said:
Wow just looked the dsi has a 133mhz processor. It can't run any form of android. No wonder the games as so weak.
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The games on my 3DS run far smoother than my Nexus overclocked to 1.2ghz AND its the best glasses free 3D on a portable device
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Holy **** a bunch of people bashing proper console games while promoting rubbish mobile games?
Alrighty my impression of you guys have degraded. Seriously.
Why does zenonia 4 cost nothing while Zelda cost money? Quality of the game, of course. Zenonia is so horrible only anyone who have no taste in games would find it attractive, as with most casual mobile phone gamers because they simply haven't touched anything that's of good enough quality to set a decent benchmark of what's good and what's crap.
Processors does not determine the quality of the game and there's no denying it, DS and 3ds probably can't get android running but the games made for those consoles are far more entertaining then mobile games. I have no idea how Zelda is a "tired game" while zenonia is not.
Android 4.2 on my Tamagochi would be fun
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PVTD said:
Android 4.2 on my Tamagochi would be fun
16x16 b/w and 2 bottons FTW!
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This guys gets it
Buhahahahahahahahaha
I agree with you to an extent but mobile gaming has progressed a lot over the past couple of years. The lack of hardware controls still doesn't sit well with me, though. I need physical buttons for games like platformers.
blackchides said:
I agree with you to an extent but mobile gaming has progressed a lot over the past couple of years. The lack of hardware controls still doesn't sit well with me, though. I need physical buttons for games like platformers.
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Yeah i completely agree, in fact IMHO Touch controls completely suck and are holding back smartphone gaming. For more of my whining about the inadequacies of touch controls
ht*tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1491481
For THE BEST solution to serious gaming on Android look no further than here:
ht*tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179929
IMHO non of this prevents Nintardos products being jokes, suitable only for small children with overly protective parents .... lol ( my twins have DS's they are 6, already Mia prefers playing some games on my HTC Desire Z)
I agree
Ratix0 said:
Holy **** a bunch of people bashing proper console games while promoting rubbish mobile games?
Alrighty my impression of you guys have degraded. Seriously.
Why does zenonia 4 cost nothing while Zelda cost money? Quality of the game, of course. Zenonia is so horrible only anyone who have no taste in games would find it attractive, as with most casual mobile phone gamers because they simply haven't touched anything that's of good enough quality to set a decent benchmark of what's good and what's crap.
Processors does not determine the quality of the game and there's no denying it, DS and 3ds probably can't get android running but the games made for those consoles are far more entertaining then mobile games. I have no idea how Zelda is a "tired game" while zenonia is not.
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+1 on your comment I could not have said it better myself
Super bump I'm probably gonna get suspended or warned or something...
But I wanted to let you all know...
CyanogenMod 7 idled using 63mb of ram on my Samsung Galaxy Exhibit...
The 3DS has 128mb...
It also has a dual core and a pretty beefy GPU... So?
Maybe some SDCard ram? Can that be done on Android? 128mb of SD card ram... That's all we need...
Now let's say this could be run with the help of a flashcart...
Like the http://eng.supercard.sc/manual/dstwo/
Supercard DSTwo... It has I think.. 64mb of ram?It also has an integrated CPU.
Wouldn't that make the 3DS a tripple core of some sort? Wouldn't that help?
I think so.
The 3DS could probably run Android in the future.. I don't see it so farfetched.
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this is only an idea, i get bored and start thinking about weird but cool things mixed toguethe
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its almost possible, everything on the 3ds has been dumped except for the bootrom. if the bootrom is dumped, we can put everything we want on a 3ds and it will run fine! (if the cpu, ram and other stuff like that are good enough)
edit: the bootrom has been dumped, BUT its not public.:crying::crying::crying:
Yo it's a NEW YEAR FOR ADVANCEMENTS
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its almost possible, everything on the 3ds has been dumped except for the bootrom. if the bootrom is dumped, we can put everything we want on a 3ds and it will run fine! (if the cpu, ram and other stuff like that are good enough)
edit: the bootrom has been dumped, BUT its not public.:crying::crying::crying:
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I'm just now reading over this forum you seem to be the closest one to actually work with on the 3DS. I have my bootrom dumped with boot9strap installed. I'm down with making a cfw that's equivelent to 3DS software and also has android apis or programming. It will be a challenge however considering the fact that you have minimal ram to work with and very low processing speed.
The 3DS sfw is very light but if you were to making it lighter and add a couple of software enhancements to it (Make it your own) you could potentially lessen the amount of ram the home screen takes up. The 3DS sfw makes it so the the home screen is always active in the backgroud, if I could cut that bit of ram free then the potential for running newer software would be greater. Also in a cfw there the potential that you can partition a proportionally larger SD card with virtual ram and speed up the processing a little more.
If you have anything that can help please reply to my post so I can remember this forum for the future. Hope my post helped:laugh:.
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I'm just now reading over this forum you seem to be the closest one to actually work with on the 3DS. I have my bootrom dumped with boot9strap installed. I'm down with making a cfw that's equivelent to 3DS software and also has android apis or programming. It will be a challenge however considering the fact that you have minimal ram to work with and very low processing speed.
The 3DS sfw is very light but if you were to making it lighter and add a couple of software enhancements to it (Make it your own) you could potentially lessen the amount of ram the home screen takes up. The 3DS sfw makes it so the the home screen is always active in the backgroud, if I could cut that bit of ram free then the potential for running newer software would be greater. Also in a cfw there the potential that you can partition a proportionally larger SD card with virtual ram and speed up the processing a little more.
If you have anything that can help please reply to my post so I can remember this forum for the future. Hope my post helped:laugh:.
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Any progress?
I've talked him down to $260.... Is it worth it?
http://memphis.craigslist.org/sys/3553988017.html
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What u going to be using it for?
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For regular general use I think that's a good deal, my mother in-law just got a Dell laptop pretty much same specs it pretty nice and she paid almost double for what you will be paying
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I was going to buy it for slight gaming & android
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For 250 yea the specs are average Intel 3000 is standard. The i3 is bad for what you want to do with it, and 6GB is plenty For Just general things. Gaming Wise? Don't expect 60FPS On in Intel i3. But yes worth it
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I was going to buy it for slight gaming & android
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For gaming get a desktop.
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make sure software's not warez. get discs. make sure its not just activated by keygen or crack
What do you mean by slight gaming? I can't do more than "slight gaming" on my i5 + Intel HD 3000 laptop, but I think of slight gaming as NBA 2k13 at medium settings
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What do you mean by slight gaming? I can't do more than "slight gaming" on my i5 + Intel HD 3000 laptop, but I think of slight gaming as NBA 2k13 at medium settings
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I was thinking emulators like psp... I got the Beast Station 3 for real gaming
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I was thinking emulators like psp... I got the Beast Station 3 for real gaming
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They have emulators for psp now? I know that for a PS2 emulator you need a computer with amazing specs. Need for Speed Most Wanted won't run in the emulator without significant lag on my laptop
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Dell is a good brand
i3 is a bit slow, it's OK for daily use such as word processing
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They have emulators for psp now? I know that for a PS2 emulator you need a computer with amazing specs. Need for Speed Most Wanted won't run in the emulator without significant lag on my laptop
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I have the psp emulator on my cell. Its in a very beta stage... Yet its worth a try. N64 runs great on my phone. Heavy games like perfect dark won't fully work yet tho
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I didn't look at the specifics, but a decent i3 should be fine for ought gaming - it's fine even for decent gaming if paired with a good GPU. The Intel 3000 is crap, though. I would check out how what you want to run performs on that.
I mean, I had a mobile GPU a bit an that, and it struggled to play many games (I could play WoW fine, but not GW2 or Skyrim) . If light is very, very light - perhaps you can get by.
I will throw in that both I and two other people I know have had very bad luck with the 14R - and they don't seem to be uncommon issues. The build quality is pretty crazy and things like to go wrong.
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I didn't look at the specifics, but a decent i3 should be fine for ought gaming - it's fine even for decent gaming if paired with a good GPU. The Intel 3000 is crap, though. I would check out how what you want to run performs on that.
I mean, I had a mobile GPU a bit an that, and it struggled to play many games (I could play WoW fine, but not GW2 or Skyrim) . If light is very, very light - perhaps you can get by.
I will throw in that both I and two other people I know have had very bad luck with the 14R - and they don't seem to be uncommon issues. The build quality is pretty crazy and things like to go wrong.
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I'm not expecting to play Skyrim or games like that tho. I wanted to get into android development & run emulators like n64, psp, etc on the side. I also was going to build a new mugen game
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What do you guys think of this one? Keep in mind... I'm not tryna run games like BF3 etc.
http://memphis.craigslist.org/sys/3507998566.html
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I've talked him down to $260.... Is it worth it?
http://memphis.craigslist.org/sys/3553988017.html
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XDA Developers is for mobile devices not laptops
brianmillar9 said:
XDA Developers is for mobile devices not laptops
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Dude... We all know what this site is for. If you read my posts... I want a decent laptop to start my own android development projects. Now, do you have any positive input on said choices sir?
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Dude... We all know what this site is for. If you read my posts... I want a decent laptop to start my own android development projects. Now, do you have any positive input on said choices sir?
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Well I'm just saying and the admins come down pretty hard on me whenever I post something that's even slightly of topic... Ok so my real advice, any computer is fine for android devin it doesn't require high performance. I'm on a Core i5 Chip and 6GB ram now and I see no difference in performance for devin (obviously I do for videos and games and stuff) than I did when I was devin on a Pentium chip and 4gb. Android emulator is not really affected by your laptop speed, it still runs slow as hell on fast machines and its always gonna be clunky. I recommend installing a Linux distro for devin when you get your machine.
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Well I'm just saying and the admins come down pretty hard on me whenever I post something that's even slightly of topic... Ok so my real advice, any computer is fine for android devin it doesn't require high performance. I'm on a Core i5 Chip and 6GB ram now and I see no difference in performance for devin (obviously I do for videos and games and stuff) than I did when I was devin on a Pentium chip and 4gb. Android emulator is not really affected by your laptop speed, it still runs slow as hell on fast machines and its always gonna be clunky. I recommend installing a Linux distro for devin when you get your machine.
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The topic of this thread is clearly for opinions on laptops. I respect your input, but I'm being hopeful that a dev will chime in
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I am curios to know if streaming over the internet is possible. I think the speed would be too slow to use.
chevyowner said:
I am curios to know if streaming over the internet is possible. I think the speed would be too slow to use.
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they have shown it possible using nvidia grid, however currently it won't be possible using the shields built in streaming apps/tech. thats LAN only. i believe they want the message out there tho that it can do it should they allow it, so to speak.
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they have shown it possible using nvidia grid, however currently it won't be possible using the shields built in streaming apps/tech. thats LAN only. i believe they want the message out there tho that it can do it should they allow it, so to speak.
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Also, keep in mind that NVIDIA GRID servers would be located on dedicated high-speed networks with very high uplink bandwidth. Most consumer internet access have capped upload speeds which are far below the download speed. For instance, 15Mbps download likely has 1.5Mbps upload. So for you to watch Netflix on SuperHD quality, the expected bandwidth requirement is 6Mbps. You could easily stream 2 HD movies over the same 15Mbps internet connection. But if you were to server it to someone else, you'd be 4x too slow. These games are streaming high quality game video, not some over-compressed artifact-laden mess. So while I'm sure there are ways around the LAN requirement, realize the bandwidth requirement of your uplink.
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Also, keep in mind that NVIDIA GRID servers would be located on dedicated high-speed networks with very high uplink bandwidth. Most consumer internet access have capped upload speeds which are far below the download speed. For instance, 15Mbps download likely has 1.5Mbps upload. So for you to watch Netflix on SuperHD quality, the expected bandwidth requirement is 6Mbps. You could easily stream 2 HD movies over the same 15Mbps internet connection. But if you were to server it to someone else, you'd be 4x too slow. These games are streaming high quality game video, not some over-compressed artifact-laden mess. So while I'm sure there are ways around the LAN requirement, realize the bandwidth requirement of your uplink.
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if only we all had google fiber.
glitchhawk said:
if only we all had google fiber.
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Google fiber is seriously making me want to move to Provo.
chevyowner said:
I am curios to know if streaming over the internet is possible. I think the speed would be too slow to use.
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TESTED. SPLASHTOP 2 does support controller, (a few tweaks) and as long as I play games in "Windowed" for games that are not Splashtop stream supported. I can play over internet connection. I HAVE TESTED THIS with Crysis 2 in windowed mode at changing settings to 720. THIS IS 3rd party system not optimized like the Shield streaming and Nvidia Grid is. It works better if you are on the same provider, and have at the capability of a 4meg upload on both sides. best if you have like a 25/4. I have tried it over 4G LTE, it works but not great. So it is possible, but because you are pinging though remote server before you get to your PC, ping is higher than 200ms, most of the time closer to 250ms. that is tested on Charter Communications 30/4 with ping test at 20ms or lower. I am a senior tech with them and understanding the WWW infrastructure, server based streaming is still going to be far more viable. but as a test experiment, remote desktop streaming through splashtop in windowed mode does work... a bit laggy, but possible.
Based on the relationship Nvidia is building with Steam, and their Grid technology, it would not surprise me if we see very soon Steam offering a streaming over the internet service.
You would probably have to setup a VPN and connect to that at the moment
Was wondering the same thing too ... we have the NBN in Australia and it is 100Mbs down and 30Mbs up ... so think it could cope with it
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You would probably have to setup a VPN and connect to that at the moment
Was wondering the same thing too ... we have the NBN in Australia and it is 100Mbs down and 30Mbs up ... so think it could cope with it
Kris
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Someone has already done it in another thread... There's a guide on setting up VPN now for SHIELD.
Is that on the Nvidia site then? I've been searching xda...
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Is that on the Nvidia site then? I've been searching xda...
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No it is on XDA Under Nvidia Shield > Shield General > [GUIDE] How to setup VPN for game streaming
here is a link
I plan on using openvpn when i get around to it.
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https://forums.geforce.com/default/...connect-your-shield-to-vpn-for-remote-gaming/