Why is cooked rom "FASTER" - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De

newb question .. why would a "clean" rom, smaller rom, be any "faster" than the stock HTC Kaiser rom ?
I mean ACTUALLY, benchmark-able, FASTER. Aren't you just making more storage room ?
Thanks,
DLD

RacerX10 said:
newb question .. why would a "clean" rom, smaller rom, be any "faster" than the stock HTC Kaiser rom ?
I mean ACTUALLY, benchmark-able, FASTER. Aren't you just making more storage room ?
Thanks,
DLD
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Because, for one thing, all the stupid microsoft registry ****ups have been removed. It just like have powerup XP or something running on your desktop. Microsoft Software can always be improved. That's a known fact

Maarten_0031 said:
Because, for one thing, all the stupid microsoft registry ****ups have been removed. It just like have powerup XP or something running on your desktop. Microsoft Software can always be improved. That's a known fact
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Can you give me an example of these "****ups" ?
Thanks,
DLD

Well it's a little of both, actually. The storage advantage in ROM permits you to have more space for apps (a la kitchen or custom roms.) The other advantage being that any apps that run in the background or autostart with the device will no longer be present, freeing up more RAM for active applications.
Hope this helps.
MJB

plus the wm6 kernel has been updated, of course.

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Which flavour would you prefer?

Hi all,
Yet another Poll,
Please vote in order to help us set some priorities and focus on the next Roms.
Vanilla : -- Speaks for itself -- Basic OS
Business : -- Vanilla with Productivity Tools/Apps/Utils (M$Voice Command, Pim Backup, Full Office, Cambirdge BT Stack,Tray Launch to mention a few)
Full Flavour : -- Whatever we can cram into the Rom that benefits your average user.
Vanilla With Cabs : -- Cab files on extended Rom to install Apps at will.
Please feel to post any apps utils (Freeware/ShareWare only) that you would like included or feel would be useful to the rest of the community.
Cheers,
Regards,
Beast
+1 for Vanilla & Cabs - Since thats what the Extended ROM is for anyway...
Also, this allows you to easily customise\uninstall what you don't need
I vote either for vanilla. having the extended rom free for the most important document has become important for me.. business may be interesting too if not too much filled up
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+1 for Vanilla & Cabs - Since thats what the Extended ROM is for anyway...
Also, this allows you to easily customise\uninstall what you don't need
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I couldn't agree more!
An extended ROM with all the cabs present in the business version (including VC final version ) would allow any newbie to customize is won ROM.
Just open the extended ROM and select the wanted cabs.
If you provide the cabs and an extended ROM it would be even better!!
+1 For Full Flavour
The more space you can use on the ROM the better. Vanillas just waste ROM space since the only way you can put anything on the ROM is by flashing. I'll just take out anything on startup that I don't need.
best option for every one: Vanilla + CABs.
i, for example, cannot stand having voice command installed.
other ppl wouldn't like msn live installed. etc etc...
the debate is endless - everyone likes something else to be installed or uninstalled.
this is why vanilla + cabs would do the best job satisfying everyone.
storage space would be compermised though. but thats the sacrifice we have to make.
More storage more storage
OK,
So far the majority seem to prefer Vanilla and cab version, yet we also want to keep extended rom.
What if we go for exteneded Rom, unhidden, writeable and renamed to storage, then you can install any apps in there you wish.
We could make the cabs available (with an auto-install option too if you wish) and they install from your SD Cards.
This way it may keep the majority happy you get an extra 10mb storage to play with (rather than having the cabs in it) and anything you want auto-installed after 1st boot you simply copy to say "Install" Dir on your SD Cards.
There's another option to mull over guys!
Cheers,
Beast
that's the idea!! after reading davince's post I realized he was right and I wasn't...but your idea looks like unbeatable!
beast0898 said:
OK,
So far the majority seem to prefer Vanilla and cab version, yet we also want to keep extended rom.
What if we go for exteneded Rom, unhidden, writeable and renamed to storage, then you can install any apps in there you wish.
We could make the cabs available (with an auto-install option too if you wish) and they install from your SD Cards.
This way it may keep the majority happy you get an extra 10mb storage to play with (rather than having the cabs in it) and anything you want auto-installed after 1st boot you simply copy to say "Install" Dir on your SD Cards.
There's another option to mull over guys!
Cheers,
Beast
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You guys are great!!
Is getting hard to wait for such a wonderful ROM!!!
Vanilla + cabs. But when I say Vanilla, I don't mean removing things such as Windows Live - which is part of WM6!
possibly use the method i pioneered? you cook in as many programs as you can (full flavour) BUT you leave out the registry and shortcuts for them, and stick those in cabs. the result is a vannilla + cabs rom that has much more free storage. also (you probably know this) try to use initflashfiles as little as possible as it copies them from rom to storage memory, where ever possible (almost always) leave things in the windows dir and change the shortcuts + reg to match that.
just my 2p
Midget_1990 said:
possibly use the method i pioneered?
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no offence or anything of course, but helmi did it before you
jasonkruys said:
Vanilla + cabs. But when I say Vanilla, I don't mean removing things such as Windows Live - which is part of WM6!
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I agree, all the apps that normally come with WM6 (namely Windows Live & MS Office) should definitely be included in ROM 100% - then we can call that "vanilla" (anything else would just not be "WM6"). And possibly a better Bluetooth stack, as technically that would just be a "bugfix".
shlomki said:
no offence or anything of course, but helmi did it before you
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non taken, im sure he did, I just hadnt seen it done before
Midget_1990 said:
possibly use the method i pioneered? you cook in as many programs as you can (full flavour) BUT you leave out the registry and shortcuts for them, and stick those in cabs. the result is a vannilla + cabs rom that has much more free storage. also (you probably know this) try to use initflashfiles as little as possible as it copies them from rom to storage memory, where ever possible (almost always) leave things in the windows dir and change the shortcuts + reg to match that.
just my 2p
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This would be perfect.
I really want vanilla, I dont even want windows live, messenger or voice dial.....a very clean Rom. Please if you could just put one like that up for down load as well as what ever else, that would be great.
Cheers
guinevere
guinevere said:
I really want vanilla, I dont even want windows live, messenger or voice dial.....a very clean Rom. Please if you could just put one like that up for down load as well as what ever else, that would be great.
Cheers
guinevere
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Hi,
So it looks like, some people want Vanilla and some want Vanilla without the "essence" LoL.........
We'll see what we can do.
Almost there with VC so Roms shouldn't be too far off now.
Keep y'all posted.
Maybe we'll just release another kitchen update more automated than the last ones, I'm toying with an "AutoBuild" option on the kitchen to throw out pre-configured Roms based on a tick box GUI. Basically fire up the kitchen make your selection, click go, have a coffee, Rom built and flashed.
L8rs,
Beast
Peoples wishes
Hi all,
Leo and I are going to re-design the kitchen (rather than cooking a load of Roms)
I'll update the Kitchen (with bug fixes included) and add a front end that will allow you all to choose what flavour you want and have a one click build and flash process. Toying with the idea of also having a custom build that allows you to choose which oems to install as well as adding oems for commonly used apps such as SPB Phone, SPB Today, CorePlayer etc with the option to enter your serial numbers before cooking or build with demo version installed (but this requires a lot more work to incorporate so we'll see how it goes)
Items fixed so far wifi wpa
fully-functional phone (quick responding keys) The response was slow and Talk button doesn't always work.
Ringtones on SD Card.
New Email account creation
Thanks again to Leo for his help with all of this.
Cheers,
Beast
hi, just to let you know i will be back, thanks to pug i've brought the its i needed to fix my Universal, however i also have my new athena so i wont have enough time to maintain a whole rom release but, if you guys doing the kitchen have anything you want doing i could help with that
beast0898 said:
Hi all,
Leo and I are going to re-design the kitchen (rather than cooking a load of Roms)
I'll update the Kitchen (with bug fixes included) and add a front end that will allow you all to choose what flavour you want and have a one click build and flash process. Toying with the idea of also having a custom build that allows you to choose which oems to install as well as adding oems for commonly used apps such as SPB Phone, SPB Today, CorePlayer etc with the option to enter your serial numbers before cooking or build with demo version installed (but this requires a lot more work to incorporate so we'll see how it goes)
Items fixed so far wifi wpa
fully-functional phone (quick responding keys) The response was slow and Talk button doesn't always work.
Ringtones on SD Card.
New Email account creation
Thanks again to Leo for his help with all of this.
Cheers,
Beast
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wpa-tkip fixed??
way to go!
i wonder, what did the trick?

Fastest Kaiser Cooked ROM in the world?!

Hi everyone,
Done a search that yielded inconclusive results. My question is:
What is the fastest kaiser cooked rom made so far, based on user comparisons and most importantly benchmarking?​
Please state it as clearly as possible e.g.
1. ROM1
Benchmark results xxx.xxx
I feel that... comments...
2. ROM2
Benchmark results xxx.xxx
I feel that... not as fast as ROM1 because... comments...
Thank you very much for the input, I hope this will be very informative for kaiser owners who are thinking of flashing a rom but don't know which one to choose since there are so many!
I am actually running Dutty's v1.1 dualtouch rom, the latest one, and still experienced the occasional 30 second freeze which was frustrating.
Gerald
Dutty's SupaLite Rom at http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Lite+Roms/
Sorry no benchmaks... not yet anyway.
Its Custel 2.1
Its custel 2.1 non touch version.
Dutty Dual Touch 1.1
pagepool change to 24mb.
no benchmark.
speed is acceptable, as compare with most of the cooked rom
but definitely much much slower than my artemis
How do you change the pagepool?
jbmorales said:
How do you change the pagepool?
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See my signature for the pagepool changer. Very easy to use. Open the program. Click on the ROM you want to change the pagepool on and select the page pool you want to change it to. You must do this before you flash.
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See my signature for the pagepool changer. Very easy to use. Open the program. Click on the ROM you want to change the pagepool on and select the page pool you want to change it to. You must do this before you flash.
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Crap! So this means after I change my pool I have to reflash whatever ROM I currently have/want on my phone?
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Crap! So this means after I change my pool I have to reflash whatever ROM I currently have/want on my phone?
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affirmative
Quentin- said:
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Thank you.
Quentin- said:
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Sorry for the thread-jack but it does pertain to performance.
If I do the following:
1.) Make a backup using sprite backup (Dutty's 7b for example)
2.) Flash the same rom with a changed page pool (again, Dutty's 7b)
3.) Restore my backup
Does that in effect nullify the changed page pool? Or is the page pool buried deep enough that restoring from a sprite backup will not change it?
Thanks
-Brett.
We all in search of a fastest and max. features and most stable ROM.
I have chasing these ROMs myself for last few months.
Something I experienced quite surprised me and I would rather have people starting thinking of discuss their experience about it.
I have an old AdamExec which I didn't think was that fast so I bought a Touch. Touch felt a little faster but as soon as I load it with applications found out it has very little storage memory. Flash with a custom BigStorage ROM, speed never be the same ... not there.
Then saw a Sprint Phone which was quite fast, so as soon as AT&T got its Tilt, I bought that too. I flash the Tilt continuously for past two months. I didn't find the speed was that fantastic, it is acceptable, but not quite what I want.
Going back to AtomExec, it was on WM5, slow, flashed with a WM6 ROM cooked by Chartreux. Wow, it was suddenly came alive, faster than my Tilt. No waiting of half to 2 secs or 3 secs for every screen. It is always like instantaneous to half second. You can alway try Start -> Setting -> System right after the machine reboot you can sense the speed. Open up Windows directory is another good test. I don't care about bench numbers. I really had no complain on the speed of the AtomExec then but the machine freezes more than I expected with that ROM, besides the Bluetooth and Camera still had some problems. Also as soon as I installed more softwares, it starts to slow down.
Avoiding some applications probably will help lot more than keep searching for faster ROM. I believe getting a clean ROM first, install all the applications under its Program Files directory instead of Windows directory. There are almost 3,000 files, big and small in Windows directory, way more than that of Windows XP system. The HTC home itself contribute to tons of little files no wonder people said it was one of the apps that makes the machine slow. The EndKey also produces a tones of small files. I also suspect the Battery Status also has some effect on the performance.
My point is some applications may take a lot of resource and/or continuously running in the background and eating up the performance of the machine. Avoiding resource hogging semi-useful applications maybe a better move that trying to splitting hair with each good customer ROMs.
Okay I get it. Thanks for the information jychan28!
so basically lite roms + lesser programs = best performance.
zzoinks said:
Sorry for the thread-jack but it does pertain to performance.
If I do the following:
1.) Make a backup using sprite backup (Dutty's 7b for example)
2.) Flash the same rom with a changed page pool (again, Dutty's 7b)
3.) Restore my backup
Does that in effect nullify the changed page pool? Or is the page pool buried deep enough that restoring from a sprite backup will not change it?
Thanks
-Brett.
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This would not affect page pool...things you can restore from a backup never touch ROM files/settings.
Insane benchmarks!!! Someone else please test?
I was amazed when I saw jpope's benchmark posted in my ROM thread. Compare it against cashn's thread with his benchmark results and you'll be amazed as I was.
I'd perform the tests myself, but I've noticed that people tend to place less credibilty when the ROM chef publishes them.
So is anyone else willing to test & publish the results on my ROM to confirm these insane benchmarks???
Thanks in advance
it looks like the difference came from the file index.
maybe the storage card was different?
cpu and graphic indexes are very similar to other benchmarks
jbmorales said:
How do you change the pagepool?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390471&highlight=page+pool

[PreRelease BigStorage] Just2Clean and Two New Kitchen [Updated:04.22.08]

Update: 04/22/08
This is a release for the ROM and the porting kitchen. It does not port XIP's, yet, just SYS folders, but it does what it needs to do. I haven't tested it in more than just one port, though. The one I did test came out perfect, though.
The ROM has 63.XXmb FREE storage and 31.XXmb free with SD RAM.
To flash it you MUST have a HardSPL'ed Herald or Wing and a microSD card. Just place the HERAIMG.nbh into the SD card's root directory. Do NOT rename it to anything else. Then hold the camera button down while you turn on the device and then press the volume down slider when it asks you to. Wait until it says it's done. I haven't tried to run any activesync other than to an exchange server so tell me if that isn't working.
I'll be done with finals this week and then I can finally work on the other kitchen.
I'll upload it when I come back from school.
Update #2: 04/14/08
Just added a screenshot. Mind you, this is WITH SD card AND after I installed my "troubleshooting" tools.
Update: 04/14/08
60mb of FREE storage space.
32mb RAM with no SD
30MB RAM with SD
No compression (I'll probably released a UPX'd version, as well...)
Fixed all bugs found so far except for two. Maybe you guys can help me figure them out... the sad part, I've fixed these same two bugs countless times in my other ROMs, but I just can't remember how I did it. lol
1. Comm Manager: It doesn't matter what comm manager I place in there, it still boots up the built in comm manager. (The one that Tmobile has anyways.)
2. The Vibrate button. I have all the files and I have it setup so that it vibrates when you hold down the comm button, BUT it keeps trying to open VoiceCMD even though I deleted all visible entries for it...
Update: 04/03/08
Ok guys. Here's some info on my current projects.
1. Just2Clean is almost done. I just have to fix some bugs. The OEM is from an unreleased Wing ROM, the SYS I ported over using... well keep reading.
2. My phone currently is running currently has 62.38mb total of storage... and I was able to shrink the extrom and use that ROM space for storage. Granted, you need to have HardSPL and a memory card for this to work, but it's awesome. This ROM is also so small and stripped that it's the fastest ROM I've ever used and I don't even have any tweaks on it, yet.
3. Kitchen 1: PPCBuildOS: Unfortunately, I haven't had time to work on porting it, but after I get Just2Clean fixed, I'll be working on it. AWESOME kitchen. The creator is so willing to help, too. Made me a developer of the Atlas section (Herald compatible so no worries for those Herald users.)
4. EasyPortKitchen. So far, I've got it porting SYS folders just fine. I haven't been able to setup XIP porting, but that's because I still don't understand the process behind it. If someone wants to explain it to me, I'll be able to finish this kitchen. So far, Just2Clean had its SYS folder ported in this way.
EDIT: 5: I plan to release the ROM with language packs for the kitchen. Then you can just check on the language you want the ROM to be in while building the ROM.
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Ok, change of plans.... I'm currently working with the makers of PPCBuildOS to make an Atlas/Herald version of their kitchen. It's currently being developed with JustClean, but it will eventually be released with my Just2Clean. (That'll be the new name.) That kitchen is AWESOME, btw. ^_^ Makes my kitchen look like a pitiful script kiddy toy.
Just2Clean will be a WM6.1 stripped down better than JustClean was, more modulized and with its OEM based on an unreleased ROM.
I'll keep you guys posted but I'm not sure of how much I can talk about now that I'm helping develop the Atlas/Herald side of it...
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A few things that I've been thinking about on my "off" time... basically, the time that I'm just unbusy enough to have my own personal thoughts outside of work or school related ones. lol
All these ROMs would be compatible with my kitchen.
1. SuperClean - A ROM built with lots of compression and minimal programs. The point of this is to be the "bigstorage rom" where you can't even flash it normally because it doesn't meet the size requirements of the RUU/SPL.
2. JustClean2 - Based on an unreleased OEM from an unreleased ROM that I made before I switched to WM6.1. It's based on a Wing ROM... but it has potentials. It just feels faster and it seems to take less space than the current Herald base I'm using. Not to mention that some people are having issues with Herald based ROMs and some bluetooth enabled items.
3. OldClean/NewClean - SuperClean and JustClean2 may have both WM6.0 and WM6.1 versions... I find that, although WM6.0 is slower, it also takes up less space (and therefore can net more storage space) and some people don't seem to like a lot of the WM6.1 features.
What do you guys think? Which would you like to see first? If any? Any better ideas? (And no, no ideas about which programs should be in it, you already have my kitchen for that.) Oh, and the kitchen would become modular, the JustClean1 ROM would be released seperate from the Kitchen.
I'm itching for a ROM as quick as my old WM6.0 ROM, but I haven't had as much luck getting the Herald ROM to run as quickly.
BTW, has anyone ever used my old CleanROM with the Herald keyboard driver? Did you ever have any issues with it?
I vote for a newer WM6.1 built than the "old" 19xxx - there were newer ones outside before bepes kitchen ROM but thy had ActiveSync problems...
Maybe now there are new builts.
OR if not i vote for WM7...hahaha
ALLL the "clean" crap doesn´t make sence to me... why to have a clean rom and then install all by cab.
I ONLY cooked a rom because i was sick of installing all cabs
lol
Good to see ur back to cooking roms
Well i Love the functions of WM6.1 so just about and clean 6.1 rom you cook will be great
so i'd guess from ur descriptions that'd be SuperClean...
Edit: I also use the Office suit a lot but i can add that by a cab, since i know most clean roms dont have it since it takes quite a bit of space
papamopps said:
I vote for a newer WM6.1 built than the "old" 19xxx - there were newer ones outside before bepes kitchen ROM but thy had ActiveSync problems...
Maybe now there are new builts.
OR if not i vote for WM7...hahaha
ALLL the "clean" crap doesn´t make sence to me... why to have a clean rom and then install all by cab.
I ONLY cooked a rom because i was sick of installing all cabs
lol
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These ROMs are meant to be used with my kitchen. That way they can add what they want and what they want only. Some people just don't use any programs and want the available storage space for other reasons. (Like photos.)
The SuperClean would attempt to create a lot more free space in the ROM. (For example, I have 54.93mb total (I've got a few files saved so I'm not sure how much I had free at first) currently in the ROM I'm currently using and it's no where near optimized and it's one of my fattest unreleased "SuperClean" ROM's that I have ever made.
Imagine being able to get 60mb free WITH all the apps that you use. It would be awesome.
Well at the moment i have a 4GB Memory Card, but reguardless i preffer to use cean roms as they tend to be faster and have more program memory available.
Especially since i use Point UI and dont rly care about today plugins
I vote for just a 6.1 Rom w/ good tweaks (and ready to go for tmo usa) and no extra programs.
BTW, has anyone ever used my old CleanROM with the Herald keyboard driver? Did you ever have any issues with it?
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Yes I have, and no issues at all.
BTW, has anyone ever used my old CleanROM with the Herald keyboard driver? Did you ever have any issues with it?
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I did, but there were some serious issues (I can't remember which though). I had reporeted them in CleanROM thread for sure.
BTW, when are you going release final of your oven? I need to fix several small issues in my custom ROM, but I'm too lazy to do so with current version
GiZZy said:
Well at the moment i have a 4GB Memory Card, but reguardless i preffer to use cean roms as they tend to be faster and have more program memory available.
Especially since i use Point UI and dont rly care about today plugins
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And THAT is the problem ... even with 63MB program storage... we will NEVER get more than 32MB free RAM (memory)
to get more storage for apps or even cach is not the problem. BUT getting more RAM is not possible.
But as a clean rom for cooking - OK
but then:
- no skinning
- default looking
- only left what is needed for running system (phone, base apps)
and than we can cook....
thx
AND why don´t we have this OS "System 5.2.19202 (build 19202.1.0.0)"????
the kaiser people have it..
papamopps said:
And THAT is the problem ... even with 63MB program storage... we will NEVER get more than 32MB free RAM (memory)
to get more storage for apps or even cach is not the problem. BUT getting more RAM is not possible.
But as a clean rom for cooking - OK
but then:
- no skinning
- default looking
- only left what is needed for running system (phone, base apps)
and than we can cook....
thx
AND why don´t we have this OS "System 5.2.19202 (build 19202.1.0.0)"????
the kaiser people have it..
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I took a look and found out the kaiser guys have 5.2.19716. How do I extract the OS from their roms? I gotta have that build!
Must... Cook... Rom...
papamopps said:
And THAT is the problem ... even with 63MB program storage... we will NEVER get more than 32MB free RAM (memory)
to get more storage for apps or even cach is not the problem. BUT getting more RAM is not possible.
But as a clean rom for cooking - OK
but then:
- no skinning
- default looking
- only left what is needed for running system (phone, base apps)
and than we can cook....
thx
AND why don´t we have this OS "System 5.2.19202 (build 19202.1.0.0)"????
the kaiser people have it..
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I'm currently learning how to port properly for that specific reason. 19202.1.0.0.
As far as the skinning goes, the final should have the option to have no skin. I'll work on that. The base should have a few things disabled. I'm also working on that. As far as RAM goes, I've gotten up to 38mb free before, but it was missing a lot of items... I could always just modulize the whole ROM and let people choose EVERYTHING down to if they want bluetooth support or not. This can net some pretty nice amounts of free memory. It's just more work for me.
I am also thinking of modulizing the MUI's in the ROM, effectively allowing people to just download language packs. Doubleclick on the file, wait until it does its thing and then you have a French ROM, or a German ROM, or whatever...
It's not that I can't do it, it's that it takes time.... time I don't have.
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What do you guys think? Which would you like to see first? If any? Any better ideas? (And no, no ideas about which programs should be in it, you already have my kitchen for that.) Oh, and the kitchen would become modular, the JustClean1 ROM would be released seperate from the Kitchen.
I'm itching for a ROM as quick as my old WM6.0 ROM, but I haven't had as much luck getting the Herald ROM to run as quickly.
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It seems to me that the 6.1 ROM is a bit faster when doing some things (like opening the windows folder using total commander) is involved - but I think the 6.0 can be tweaked to be just as fast? I would be very excited to try either your SuperClean or JustClean2 as long as the ROM is based on Wing.
I used your CleanROM for quite a while with NO problems but on a Wing.
Update on the first post.
ivanmmj said:
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Ok, change of plans.... I'm currently working with the makers of PPCBuildOS to make an Atlas/Herald version of their kitchen. It's currently being developed with JustClean, but it will eventually be released with my Just2Clean. (That'll be the new name.) That kitchen is AWESOME, btw. ^_^ Makes my kitchen look like a pitiful script kiddy toy.
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yay new kitchen!
wow, can't wait to try the superclean (superfast???) rom
Let us script kiddies get our toys!
Updates on the first page!
So it will come with the same kitchen like JustClean?
62 megs...sounds cool. I hope it will be possible to stuff the rom with office etc. and flash it as usual.
Not with the same kitchen. With a new GUI kitchen that the guys at PPCkitchen.org have made for other phones. I'm just helping them port it to the Herald/Atlas.
The EasyPortKitchen is something you would use to port a ROM.
You can install anything you want on it. All my ROMs are always minimal and allow you to install whatever you want on them.
You can install anything you want on it. All my ROMs are always minimal and allow you to install whatever you want on them.
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That's the best of your releases. Just a clean package so everyone can add what he needs, noone has to have stuff on their phone that they don't like. It's simply a Good Thing (tm).

*** Custom ROM for you ***

I decided to build some custom ROM based on your interest and taste.
I'll consider the flavor if I have a "number of requests" for the same and offcourse it should be manageable .
Cheers
thanx Tomal, it should be great,
i need a rom with empty installation,
example.
No softwares installed in it just WM6.1 with drivers
I need the Diamond DialPad like PDAVIET'sROM. Other, fast and a big FD
Thanks
tomal said:
I decided to build some custom ROM based on your interest and taste.
I'll consider the flavor if I have a "number of requests" for the same and offcourse it should be manageable .
Cheers
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Thanks a lot Tomal! as always doing the best for all of us!
My request would be a ROM including this:
HTC home without freezing and wheather update working
WM7 theme
Advance config
The best speed as possible!!!
Messenger latest version without windows live
Office mobile
Some finger friendly keyboard
Opera the newest
A nice comm manager
TCPM
The minimal quantity of programs to run well (No games, search, help,
And I think this is not possible but you are the magician: A way to have 850mhz band to connect to 3G (As in Mexico is the band used for 3G)
Thanks a lot!
Cheers
Wow Tomal, that's very considerate of you. I'm sure you're now going to get as many flavours as there are replies!!
I love your v8.0 ROM. I think the only thing I add to your ROM is PocketCM (which I believe can't be added because of updating etc) and GPRS programs (Route66 etc).
However if I go into settings/system/about, I notice the memory differs (the ROM memory, not the free stuff). Why is that? Is is possible to make a ROM with more Memory?
tuecan said:
I need the Diamond DialPad like PDAVIET'sROM. Other, fast and a big FD
Thanks
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with the last rom....
Cool!
After loading your roms I usually add:
TouchFlo_v1.4.1 + FTouchFloConfig_v0.9 -> without any graphics, i use this to enable finger scroling in all windows apps, like file explorer, comboboxs, lists etc
BatteryStatusExt.1.05 -> i only select the second row (Indicators) to see in the home screen and in windows bar the cpu usage, to know if the universal is working or not , i would like an app that only puts in the windows bar the cpu usage and the ram available (Wasn't that good to have one of our light indicators flashing when our cpu reaches 100%? almost like our PCs with the disk light? This is possible, one program that set the SD card like a usb disk used the lights to show activity...)
PJC_HTCHome -> it's working 100% (including weather) just missing the media player...
SRS_WOWHD_ARM -> tweak universal sound rock/classic etc
I'm happy with the new Windows Media Player in 8.0
I'm not happy with the contact manager, Not finger friendly...
I'm not happy with image viewer... zoom and other iphone capabilities
Happy with TCPMP, Total Comander, WKTask Manager, RegistryEditor, Pocket RAR, Messenger, Adobe Reader, Comm Manager, Advanced Config, Performance, SD Settings, USB to PC, Office, Battery indicator in the top of the screen
WTF do we need Time Sync... doesn't ActiveSync does that??
I often install QuickMenu_en_2.7 but this should be a simpler program
JAVA!!!!
OPERA!!!!
Tweaker for the velocity vs memory problem -> app that sets the pda to work how we need when we need with a simple reboot - is this possible?? (Tweak those memory eating things that makes wm faster, way to choose if we now(via reboot) want more velocity or more ram...)
Video Call (One idea, since we can't have VC in wm6 why not use a rom from wm5 and add the latest things? I know some things come with windows, but we could have a wm5 rom up to date)
One thing I would ask too is a counter of the kbs that we use in gprs/umts, we have a time counter but we are not paying by time but by kbs... (and better better was a way to filter msn traffic since here in Portugal we have free messenger 8) )
I'm happy with the black theme, but yes it would be good to be able to change
All and all I would like a Rom with the least things in RAM but with all the minimum features installed or in cabs (installed if there are tweaks fot them)
The most important thing for me is to use the pda with fingers and without precision so i can use it while walking, riding the train etc
If i remember other thing i'll tell
French Rom plz
Hello Tomal,
First, thanx for your great ROMs
I think we are a lot wait ing for someone cooking a French WM6.1 ROM.
I hope it will be a reality one day ...
And Portuguese... Portugal Portuguese.. Never existed for universal :'(
mohsinrizwan said:
thanx Tomal, it should be great,
i need a rom with empty installation,
example.
No softwares installed in it just WM6.1 with drivers
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I agree.. sorta.
a more vanilla ish rom with nothing except things like tie sync sd settings advanced config arcsoft mms..
that way people can add the things that they want after.. the things I listed are usually needed to set up the device. actully just mms and sd settings are really needed since cabs for everything else exist.. and arcsoft doesn't really like to be installed after the fact.
mohsinrizwan said:
thanx Tomal, it should be great,
i need a rom with empty installation,
example.
No softwares installed in it just WM6.1 with drivers
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Me too, fresh vanilla rom will be great with the latest core
I also go for the fresh vanilla ROM witht he latest core.
I need mms function,thanks
I like the idea and your rom releases, maybe you could improve 7.7 and make 7.8 Its a very good rom already, maybe just need some more enhancements posted at the 7.7 thread.
I want vanilla ROM with the latest Core.
tomal v8 with mms!!!! please
pkfloyd said:
tomal v8 with mms!!!! please
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pkfloyd u can use Tomal V8 with MMS just install Arcsoft MMS 4.2
download arcsoft 4.2 from here
first install 1_install_cert.cab and then 2_dattad_ArcsoftMMS_v4.2.8.1.cab
Download Link:
http://ukstreet.co.uk/arcsoft/1_install_cert.cab
http://ukstreet.co.uk/arcsoft/2_dattad_ArcsoftMMS_v4.2.8.1.rar
I think it should continue its work with the vc in wm6.x for uni. You do would realize the dream of many.
Thank you.
Clean of any osftware rom :with flashdik , max mem, stable.
Only add SMS,BT,SDHC, cam softwares
And multilanguage if possible
I would be happy with 7.7 minus MyMobiler, WkTask Manager, Bubble Breaker, PIE, WMP and other similarly useless bits and pieces that take space. So yep, 7.7 or 7.8 in vanilla would do me fine. Got everything else in .CABs anyway - Opera, Conduits Player, TouchFlo, All Black .tsk, Diamond apps and now testing SKYPE that works for 8.0 on 7.7.
And, of course, Video Call is on my Christmas wishlist....
Thank You so much, Tomal, love your ROMs. (We need kiss emoticon!)

litest rom?

i want the litest rom 6.1 ever made.can any one suggest a best one without hanging problem
Why do yuo want the "lightest"? Don't believe that a light ROM will give more space elsewhere - unfortunately this is NOT the case! You can use any ROM and change things you don't like.
FHM's lite rom
FrauHottelMann has made a LITE rom for vox
Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3197454&postcount=1
Hopefully this is what you're looking for.
Grtz, FeareX
tobbbie i think its not correct .i dont want the windows live ,messenger etc.so it wil surely increase the memory.how can i delete these things from a normal rom.have a suggestion.
thanks
thank you fearx and i dont know whether its the one that i am seeking.i dont want any extra features just a working place with the basic needs.any idea
polamairan said:
thank you fearx and i dont know whether its the one that i am seeking.i dont want any extra features just a working place with the basic needs.any idea
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seems like u need to cook your own rom!
polamairan: I think, you don't know, what you want. FeareX already posted you a link to most recent and I think the best lite rom. Take it, or leave it. Or cook your own.
polamairan said:
tobbbie i think its not correct .i dont want the windows live ,messenger etc.so it wil surely increase the memory.how can i delete these things from a normal rom.have a suggestion.
thanks
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Oh well I am SURE it is correct. ROM is (roughly) like a fixed partition on the Hardisk of your PC - and programs you don't start are not eating your RAM. So while it may be true that some automatic start options are activating these extra programs, you can easlily (if you know how) disable this and any ROM (lite or not) is as good as the creator could make it. You can however not "delete" these programs from the ROM though. My initial hope was that a "lite" ROM would use a smaller partition of the "Harddisk", i.e. Flash ROM and allow the other part (the on-device Storage space) to grow instead - but this not the case :-(
Also the released "kitchen" for cooking ROMs to your need will always (to my experience) create (physically) equal sized ROMs, with just more or less programs bundled inside.
thank you dears for your nice advice.i am going to cook one for my needs.

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