Update: 04/22/08
This is a release for the ROM and the porting kitchen. It does not port XIP's, yet, just SYS folders, but it does what it needs to do. I haven't tested it in more than just one port, though. The one I did test came out perfect, though.
The ROM has 63.XXmb FREE storage and 31.XXmb free with SD RAM.
To flash it you MUST have a HardSPL'ed Herald or Wing and a microSD card. Just place the HERAIMG.nbh into the SD card's root directory. Do NOT rename it to anything else. Then hold the camera button down while you turn on the device and then press the volume down slider when it asks you to. Wait until it says it's done. I haven't tried to run any activesync other than to an exchange server so tell me if that isn't working.
I'll be done with finals this week and then I can finally work on the other kitchen.
I'll upload it when I come back from school.
Update #2: 04/14/08
Just added a screenshot. Mind you, this is WITH SD card AND after I installed my "troubleshooting" tools.
Update: 04/14/08
60mb of FREE storage space.
32mb RAM with no SD
30MB RAM with SD
No compression (I'll probably released a UPX'd version, as well...)
Fixed all bugs found so far except for two. Maybe you guys can help me figure them out... the sad part, I've fixed these same two bugs countless times in my other ROMs, but I just can't remember how I did it. lol
1. Comm Manager: It doesn't matter what comm manager I place in there, it still boots up the built in comm manager. (The one that Tmobile has anyways.)
2. The Vibrate button. I have all the files and I have it setup so that it vibrates when you hold down the comm button, BUT it keeps trying to open VoiceCMD even though I deleted all visible entries for it...
Update: 04/03/08
Ok guys. Here's some info on my current projects.
1. Just2Clean is almost done. I just have to fix some bugs. The OEM is from an unreleased Wing ROM, the SYS I ported over using... well keep reading.
2. My phone currently is running currently has 62.38mb total of storage... and I was able to shrink the extrom and use that ROM space for storage. Granted, you need to have HardSPL and a memory card for this to work, but it's awesome. This ROM is also so small and stripped that it's the fastest ROM I've ever used and I don't even have any tweaks on it, yet.
3. Kitchen 1: PPCBuildOS: Unfortunately, I haven't had time to work on porting it, but after I get Just2Clean fixed, I'll be working on it. AWESOME kitchen. The creator is so willing to help, too. Made me a developer of the Atlas section (Herald compatible so no worries for those Herald users.)
4. EasyPortKitchen. So far, I've got it porting SYS folders just fine. I haven't been able to setup XIP porting, but that's because I still don't understand the process behind it. If someone wants to explain it to me, I'll be able to finish this kitchen. So far, Just2Clean had its SYS folder ported in this way.
EDIT: 5: I plan to release the ROM with language packs for the kitchen. Then you can just check on the language you want the ROM to be in while building the ROM.
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Ok, change of plans.... I'm currently working with the makers of PPCBuildOS to make an Atlas/Herald version of their kitchen. It's currently being developed with JustClean, but it will eventually be released with my Just2Clean. (That'll be the new name.) That kitchen is AWESOME, btw. ^_^ Makes my kitchen look like a pitiful script kiddy toy.
Just2Clean will be a WM6.1 stripped down better than JustClean was, more modulized and with its OEM based on an unreleased ROM.
I'll keep you guys posted but I'm not sure of how much I can talk about now that I'm helping develop the Atlas/Herald side of it...
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A few things that I've been thinking about on my "off" time... basically, the time that I'm just unbusy enough to have my own personal thoughts outside of work or school related ones. lol
All these ROMs would be compatible with my kitchen.
1. SuperClean - A ROM built with lots of compression and minimal programs. The point of this is to be the "bigstorage rom" where you can't even flash it normally because it doesn't meet the size requirements of the RUU/SPL.
2. JustClean2 - Based on an unreleased OEM from an unreleased ROM that I made before I switched to WM6.1. It's based on a Wing ROM... but it has potentials. It just feels faster and it seems to take less space than the current Herald base I'm using. Not to mention that some people are having issues with Herald based ROMs and some bluetooth enabled items.
3. OldClean/NewClean - SuperClean and JustClean2 may have both WM6.0 and WM6.1 versions... I find that, although WM6.0 is slower, it also takes up less space (and therefore can net more storage space) and some people don't seem to like a lot of the WM6.1 features.
What do you guys think? Which would you like to see first? If any? Any better ideas? (And no, no ideas about which programs should be in it, you already have my kitchen for that.) Oh, and the kitchen would become modular, the JustClean1 ROM would be released seperate from the Kitchen.
I'm itching for a ROM as quick as my old WM6.0 ROM, but I haven't had as much luck getting the Herald ROM to run as quickly.
BTW, has anyone ever used my old CleanROM with the Herald keyboard driver? Did you ever have any issues with it?
I vote for a newer WM6.1 built than the "old" 19xxx - there were newer ones outside before bepes kitchen ROM but thy had ActiveSync problems...
Maybe now there are new builts.
OR if not i vote for WM7...hahaha
ALLL the "clean" crap doesn´t make sence to me... why to have a clean rom and then install all by cab.
I ONLY cooked a rom because i was sick of installing all cabs
lol
Good to see ur back to cooking roms
Well i Love the functions of WM6.1 so just about and clean 6.1 rom you cook will be great
so i'd guess from ur descriptions that'd be SuperClean...
Edit: I also use the Office suit a lot but i can add that by a cab, since i know most clean roms dont have it since it takes quite a bit of space
papamopps said:
I vote for a newer WM6.1 built than the "old" 19xxx - there were newer ones outside before bepes kitchen ROM but thy had ActiveSync problems...
Maybe now there are new builts.
OR if not i vote for WM7...hahaha
ALLL the "clean" crap doesn´t make sence to me... why to have a clean rom and then install all by cab.
I ONLY cooked a rom because i was sick of installing all cabs
lol
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These ROMs are meant to be used with my kitchen. That way they can add what they want and what they want only. Some people just don't use any programs and want the available storage space for other reasons. (Like photos.)
The SuperClean would attempt to create a lot more free space in the ROM. (For example, I have 54.93mb total (I've got a few files saved so I'm not sure how much I had free at first) currently in the ROM I'm currently using and it's no where near optimized and it's one of my fattest unreleased "SuperClean" ROM's that I have ever made.
Imagine being able to get 60mb free WITH all the apps that you use. It would be awesome.
Well at the moment i have a 4GB Memory Card, but reguardless i preffer to use cean roms as they tend to be faster and have more program memory available.
Especially since i use Point UI and dont rly care about today plugins
I vote for just a 6.1 Rom w/ good tweaks (and ready to go for tmo usa) and no extra programs.
BTW, has anyone ever used my old CleanROM with the Herald keyboard driver? Did you ever have any issues with it?
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Yes I have, and no issues at all.
BTW, has anyone ever used my old CleanROM with the Herald keyboard driver? Did you ever have any issues with it?
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I did, but there were some serious issues (I can't remember which though). I had reporeted them in CleanROM thread for sure.
BTW, when are you going release final of your oven? I need to fix several small issues in my custom ROM, but I'm too lazy to do so with current version
GiZZy said:
Well at the moment i have a 4GB Memory Card, but reguardless i preffer to use cean roms as they tend to be faster and have more program memory available.
Especially since i use Point UI and dont rly care about today plugins
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And THAT is the problem ... even with 63MB program storage... we will NEVER get more than 32MB free RAM (memory)
to get more storage for apps or even cach is not the problem. BUT getting more RAM is not possible.
But as a clean rom for cooking - OK
but then:
- no skinning
- default looking
- only left what is needed for running system (phone, base apps)
and than we can cook....
thx
AND why don´t we have this OS "System 5.2.19202 (build 19202.1.0.0)"????
the kaiser people have it..
papamopps said:
And THAT is the problem ... even with 63MB program storage... we will NEVER get more than 32MB free RAM (memory)
to get more storage for apps or even cach is not the problem. BUT getting more RAM is not possible.
But as a clean rom for cooking - OK
but then:
- no skinning
- default looking
- only left what is needed for running system (phone, base apps)
and than we can cook....
thx
AND why don´t we have this OS "System 5.2.19202 (build 19202.1.0.0)"????
the kaiser people have it..
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I took a look and found out the kaiser guys have 5.2.19716. How do I extract the OS from their roms? I gotta have that build!
Must... Cook... Rom...
papamopps said:
And THAT is the problem ... even with 63MB program storage... we will NEVER get more than 32MB free RAM (memory)
to get more storage for apps or even cach is not the problem. BUT getting more RAM is not possible.
But as a clean rom for cooking - OK
but then:
- no skinning
- default looking
- only left what is needed for running system (phone, base apps)
and than we can cook....
thx
AND why don´t we have this OS "System 5.2.19202 (build 19202.1.0.0)"????
the kaiser people have it..
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I'm currently learning how to port properly for that specific reason. 19202.1.0.0.
As far as the skinning goes, the final should have the option to have no skin. I'll work on that. The base should have a few things disabled. I'm also working on that. As far as RAM goes, I've gotten up to 38mb free before, but it was missing a lot of items... I could always just modulize the whole ROM and let people choose EVERYTHING down to if they want bluetooth support or not. This can net some pretty nice amounts of free memory. It's just more work for me.
I am also thinking of modulizing the MUI's in the ROM, effectively allowing people to just download language packs. Doubleclick on the file, wait until it does its thing and then you have a French ROM, or a German ROM, or whatever...
It's not that I can't do it, it's that it takes time.... time I don't have.
ivanmmj said:
What do you guys think? Which would you like to see first? If any? Any better ideas? (And no, no ideas about which programs should be in it, you already have my kitchen for that.) Oh, and the kitchen would become modular, the JustClean1 ROM would be released seperate from the Kitchen.
I'm itching for a ROM as quick as my old WM6.0 ROM, but I haven't had as much luck getting the Herald ROM to run as quickly.
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It seems to me that the 6.1 ROM is a bit faster when doing some things (like opening the windows folder using total commander) is involved - but I think the 6.0 can be tweaked to be just as fast? I would be very excited to try either your SuperClean or JustClean2 as long as the ROM is based on Wing.
I used your CleanROM for quite a while with NO problems but on a Wing.
Update on the first post.
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Ok, change of plans.... I'm currently working with the makers of PPCBuildOS to make an Atlas/Herald version of their kitchen. It's currently being developed with JustClean, but it will eventually be released with my Just2Clean. (That'll be the new name.) That kitchen is AWESOME, btw. ^_^ Makes my kitchen look like a pitiful script kiddy toy.
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yay new kitchen!
wow, can't wait to try the superclean (superfast???) rom
Let us script kiddies get our toys!
Updates on the first page!
So it will come with the same kitchen like JustClean?
62 megs...sounds cool. I hope it will be possible to stuff the rom with office etc. and flash it as usual.
Not with the same kitchen. With a new GUI kitchen that the guys at PPCkitchen.org have made for other phones. I'm just helping them port it to the Herald/Atlas.
The EasyPortKitchen is something you would use to port a ROM.
You can install anything you want on it. All my ROMs are always minimal and allow you to install whatever you want on them.
You can install anything you want on it. All my ROMs are always minimal and allow you to install whatever you want on them.
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That's the best of your releases. Just a clean package so everyone can add what he needs, noone has to have stuff on their phone that they don't like. It's simply a Good Thing (tm).
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Hi all,
Yet another Poll,
Please vote in order to help us set some priorities and focus on the next Roms.
Vanilla : -- Speaks for itself -- Basic OS
Business : -- Vanilla with Productivity Tools/Apps/Utils (M$Voice Command, Pim Backup, Full Office, Cambirdge BT Stack,Tray Launch to mention a few)
Full Flavour : -- Whatever we can cram into the Rom that benefits your average user.
Vanilla With Cabs : -- Cab files on extended Rom to install Apps at will.
Please feel to post any apps utils (Freeware/ShareWare only) that you would like included or feel would be useful to the rest of the community.
Cheers,
Regards,
Beast
+1 for Vanilla & Cabs - Since thats what the Extended ROM is for anyway...
Also, this allows you to easily customise\uninstall what you don't need
I vote either for vanilla. having the extended rom free for the most important document has become important for me.. business may be interesting too if not too much filled up
TehPenguin said:
+1 for Vanilla & Cabs - Since thats what the Extended ROM is for anyway...
Also, this allows you to easily customise\uninstall what you don't need
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I couldn't agree more!
An extended ROM with all the cabs present in the business version (including VC final version ) would allow any newbie to customize is won ROM.
Just open the extended ROM and select the wanted cabs.
If you provide the cabs and an extended ROM it would be even better!!
+1 For Full Flavour
The more space you can use on the ROM the better. Vanillas just waste ROM space since the only way you can put anything on the ROM is by flashing. I'll just take out anything on startup that I don't need.
best option for every one: Vanilla + CABs.
i, for example, cannot stand having voice command installed.
other ppl wouldn't like msn live installed. etc etc...
the debate is endless - everyone likes something else to be installed or uninstalled.
this is why vanilla + cabs would do the best job satisfying everyone.
storage space would be compermised though. but thats the sacrifice we have to make.
More storage more storage
OK,
So far the majority seem to prefer Vanilla and cab version, yet we also want to keep extended rom.
What if we go for exteneded Rom, unhidden, writeable and renamed to storage, then you can install any apps in there you wish.
We could make the cabs available (with an auto-install option too if you wish) and they install from your SD Cards.
This way it may keep the majority happy you get an extra 10mb storage to play with (rather than having the cabs in it) and anything you want auto-installed after 1st boot you simply copy to say "Install" Dir on your SD Cards.
There's another option to mull over guys!
Cheers,
Beast
that's the idea!! after reading davince's post I realized he was right and I wasn't...but your idea looks like unbeatable!
beast0898 said:
OK,
So far the majority seem to prefer Vanilla and cab version, yet we also want to keep extended rom.
What if we go for exteneded Rom, unhidden, writeable and renamed to storage, then you can install any apps in there you wish.
We could make the cabs available (with an auto-install option too if you wish) and they install from your SD Cards.
This way it may keep the majority happy you get an extra 10mb storage to play with (rather than having the cabs in it) and anything you want auto-installed after 1st boot you simply copy to say "Install" Dir on your SD Cards.
There's another option to mull over guys!
Cheers,
Beast
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You guys are great!!
Is getting hard to wait for such a wonderful ROM!!!
Vanilla + cabs. But when I say Vanilla, I don't mean removing things such as Windows Live - which is part of WM6!
possibly use the method i pioneered? you cook in as many programs as you can (full flavour) BUT you leave out the registry and shortcuts for them, and stick those in cabs. the result is a vannilla + cabs rom that has much more free storage. also (you probably know this) try to use initflashfiles as little as possible as it copies them from rom to storage memory, where ever possible (almost always) leave things in the windows dir and change the shortcuts + reg to match that.
just my 2p
Midget_1990 said:
possibly use the method i pioneered?
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no offence or anything of course, but helmi did it before you
jasonkruys said:
Vanilla + cabs. But when I say Vanilla, I don't mean removing things such as Windows Live - which is part of WM6!
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I agree, all the apps that normally come with WM6 (namely Windows Live & MS Office) should definitely be included in ROM 100% - then we can call that "vanilla" (anything else would just not be "WM6"). And possibly a better Bluetooth stack, as technically that would just be a "bugfix".
shlomki said:
no offence or anything of course, but helmi did it before you
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non taken, im sure he did, I just hadnt seen it done before
Midget_1990 said:
possibly use the method i pioneered? you cook in as many programs as you can (full flavour) BUT you leave out the registry and shortcuts for them, and stick those in cabs. the result is a vannilla + cabs rom that has much more free storage. also (you probably know this) try to use initflashfiles as little as possible as it copies them from rom to storage memory, where ever possible (almost always) leave things in the windows dir and change the shortcuts + reg to match that.
just my 2p
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This would be perfect.
I really want vanilla, I dont even want windows live, messenger or voice dial.....a very clean Rom. Please if you could just put one like that up for down load as well as what ever else, that would be great.
Cheers
guinevere
guinevere said:
I really want vanilla, I dont even want windows live, messenger or voice dial.....a very clean Rom. Please if you could just put one like that up for down load as well as what ever else, that would be great.
Cheers
guinevere
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Hi,
So it looks like, some people want Vanilla and some want Vanilla without the "essence" LoL.........
We'll see what we can do.
Almost there with VC so Roms shouldn't be too far off now.
Keep y'all posted.
Maybe we'll just release another kitchen update more automated than the last ones, I'm toying with an "AutoBuild" option on the kitchen to throw out pre-configured Roms based on a tick box GUI. Basically fire up the kitchen make your selection, click go, have a coffee, Rom built and flashed.
L8rs,
Beast
Peoples wishes
Hi all,
Leo and I are going to re-design the kitchen (rather than cooking a load of Roms)
I'll update the Kitchen (with bug fixes included) and add a front end that will allow you all to choose what flavour you want and have a one click build and flash process. Toying with the idea of also having a custom build that allows you to choose which oems to install as well as adding oems for commonly used apps such as SPB Phone, SPB Today, CorePlayer etc with the option to enter your serial numbers before cooking or build with demo version installed (but this requires a lot more work to incorporate so we'll see how it goes)
Items fixed so far wifi wpa
fully-functional phone (quick responding keys) The response was slow and Talk button doesn't always work.
Ringtones on SD Card.
New Email account creation
Thanks again to Leo for his help with all of this.
Cheers,
Beast
hi, just to let you know i will be back, thanks to pug i've brought the its i needed to fix my Universal, however i also have my new athena so i wont have enough time to maintain a whole rom release but, if you guys doing the kitchen have anything you want doing i could help with that
beast0898 said:
Hi all,
Leo and I are going to re-design the kitchen (rather than cooking a load of Roms)
I'll update the Kitchen (with bug fixes included) and add a front end that will allow you all to choose what flavour you want and have a one click build and flash process. Toying with the idea of also having a custom build that allows you to choose which oems to install as well as adding oems for commonly used apps such as SPB Phone, SPB Today, CorePlayer etc with the option to enter your serial numbers before cooking or build with demo version installed (but this requires a lot more work to incorporate so we'll see how it goes)
Items fixed so far wifi wpa
fully-functional phone (quick responding keys) The response was slow and Talk button doesn't always work.
Ringtones on SD Card.
New Email account creation
Thanks again to Leo for his help with all of this.
Cheers,
Beast
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wpa-tkip fixed??
way to go!
i wonder, what did the trick?
some how we gotta make a native WM6 for our wizards im running vista so its hard for me to operate a kitchen...
we can see which runs best!
IronMan19 said:
some how we gotta make a native WM6 for our wizards im running vista so its hard for me to operate a kitchen...
we can see which runs best!
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Almost all the latest version wm6 custom builds have a separate "Vanilla Rom" for kitchens and cooking. It's not possible to have original official Microsoft Wm6 Base Rom for download.The Base Roms available are all ported from official Roms of carrier's and vendors.
Besides, either install WinXP or partition and 'Dual Boot' WinXP on the same PC and HD.
how can i get these roms?
how can i get these roms i mean to fit into the wizard help me make one plz
See my signature.
I'm running it on T-Mobile, but its generic - not built specifically for that carrier, and should work on any CID-unlocked Wizard.
Its fast, stable, and works.
Would you be willing to give a few details?
This sounds interesting. Would you be willing to give a few essential details: what app's are built-in, the amount of memory left, OS version?...
Thanks, man.
Genesis3 said:
See my signature.
I'm running it on T-Mobile, but its generic - not built specifically for that carrier, and should work on any CID-unlocked Wizard.
Its fast, stable, and works.
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Sure... base is 5.2.1933; I'm running Radio 2.25.11, but that is NOT in the ROM.
Builtin:
Standard games
Esmertec Java
Adobe Reader
Camera
Comm Manager (10 button)
Internet Sharing AND DUN
Standard WM6 VOIP
SmartSkey
Other standard utilities (e.g. Windows Media, etc)
Advanced Config 1.0 (0.9 blows up with enhanced comm managers)
Windows CE Update (never seen anything yet, but the tool is there)
Enhanced WM6 Task Manager
Total Commander
OXios CloseApps/Hibernate
ClearTemp
Enhanced Contact Manager
MMS
Its a fairly vanilla ROM.
I have a lot of stuff I load from CABs as well, including HTC Home, BatteryTool, VoiceCommand, TomTom6, etc.
There's almost no storage memory used in the base load; I've got some stuff in use now as I have a bunch of CAB-loaded (and PC-loaded) stuff.
The only "bugs" I am aware of is that I've got issues with the MMS tool (configuring it - if I load the T-Mo CAB for MMS it works but that screws up connections when on sync) and during a call "directory info" isn't on the call status screen. The latter I'm not certain of the cause of, but I'm looking for a fix for that.
The really cool change I've noted is that it is 100% reliable at "ringing through" calls while data is being run. Not just with GPRS up, but with actual data transfers underway. I can be watching ORB'd TV and if someone calls the phone rings - every time. This has never, never worked before on any of the other ROMs I've used.
In addition the battery life is amazing. I've never left the phone with WiFi enabled unless in active use because it used to EAT battery power. With this ROM consumption is easily 30% better than with the others I've run. Not sure why the huge difference, but it is major - I used to run the battery basically flat in an hour watching ORB over EDGE, now I get nearly double that without a sweat. Its a BIG difference.
I'm on T-Mobile; YMMV.
I've played with a LOT of the different builds on here and all have been incredibly frustrating to one degree or another. This is the first WM6 load I've had on my Wizard that I actually LIKE.
I can build with other apps "builtin" but in general there's not THAT much that I want that's not in there or that I don't have as a CAB on my storage card, so loading from a CAB is pretty quick and painless anyway, since its only done once.
its a munn tho i dont want pplz looking at the app data saying mun
Thank you
Thank you. This sounds great - I'm going to try it. Have been running an NTS ROM for a long time now (similar idea), perhaps it's time to try a new one...
Genesis3 said:
Sure... base is 5.2.1933; I'm running Radio 2.25.11, but that is NOT in the ROM.
(details follow)
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Cool, i like your description for this ROM, i JUST flashed my first wizard for the first time up to the recommended T-mobile 2.26 and was looking for something to replace it, wm6 preferred, but stable, fast, and not bloated. I will be trying this out, for wizard G3's right?
got it running, runs pretty good. two problems:
Pocket office is broken.
I can't get the task thing where I supposedly hold down the X to exit a program completely to work, what gives?
I'll look at office.... I have a second copy of that package - let me see what's up with that.
The "Hold X" thing is BS. Smarskey is in this load; hold the right soft key ("Contacts" at the top screen, but anywhere) to close a program instead of minimizing it. That's what I've used since WM5 and I VASTLY prefer it to the other hacks.
Let me play with this some and I'll post something here.
I have the Office problem and the "no call detail during a call" problems resolved; working to verify that all the other packages don't interact badly with the fixes and then will post here with a new load.
It may take me a day or two to go through all my regression testing.
OK, it appears to be fixed up. New load available on my Signature and I've started a thread for it.
There are a few more tools in this one.
I just want to note that I ended up having to flash to TNT 1933 during thanksgiving week (was in D.C. as well on vaca) because i found the ROM to be really unstable. Had to do a lot of soft resets, hard reset once, nowhere near as much as this TNT rom, but the TNT isn't perfect either.
I did like the ROM, but the stability wasn't there for me for somereason. Right now i'm having an issue with not getting voicemail notifications :/
I used Genesis3's baserom and made it my own with the proper props to him in my thread. he fixed the 1933 build and i just added ****
zabardast_1 said:
Almost all the latest version wm6 custom builds have a separate "Vanilla Rom" for kitchens and cooking. It's not possible to have original official Microsoft Wm6 Base Rom for download.The Base Roms available are all ported from official Roms of carrier's and vendors.
Besides, either install WinXP or partition and 'Dual Boot' WinXP on the same PC and HD.
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Balderdash! See here for the MS base ROM for the Wizard. This was apparently a late development ROM used on the Wizard for development purposes (internally called "Dogfood"). You'll have to extract it in HyperCore Kitchen. It's definitely the only MS base ROM ever made for the Wizard. I've made some minor changes to make it a bit more usable in base form, but everything else is the same.
i've deleted this, because there is another thread which give you full informations and include this thread, check: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388666
please admin delete this thread
great share its right much appreciated here
rocking! thanx! I might just use this thing afterall. one question: is the size of the nb0 the same as the original 5.1 for the wizard? I found that using the 57mb nbo didn't allow me to have as much room, while not increasing storage space. I believe the original nb0 is 58.+ mb. which allows for almost 2mb more for things like live and MSVC.
Thanx for porting and posting the kitchen. if I use it for the next one the creds will for sure be yours.
Thansk a lot!
You rock Itsright!
Finally what we were expecting from your hands!
Thanks for sharing your [email protected]!
Now, let's play!
Take care!
Awesome.
Once I get to play with and test this I will consider posting my "latest and greatest"
its right said:
hi guys,
many of users asked me before to release my kitchen, then i said i will release for own using not for public, so i decided to remove all my stuff (to save my work) and share what i did for xip ported (especially) and driver modules are relocated all of these at the best ways (no hacking at all).
you will find xip folder in ROM, all of these are useless, what ever you change will not effect , so just play with OEM and SYS.
if all happy with this thing, i will continue porting and sharing.
Download: http://rapidshare.com/files/110524485/19209_Kitchen_wizard.rar
please if you want to use, give some credits.
enjoy.
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It's Right,
Great Job!!
Now this definitely deserves a sticky guys! I will try your newest rom out and then I will look into using this for my own special brand.
Thank you so much,
Damn!
This thing is FREAKING HUGE!
I had a whole bunch of stuff that I got into the 19199 port I've been using as a base, but I got in IMMEDIATE trouble with this one as soon as I started cooking.
The 64MB wall is made out of granite, and you just can't get beyond it. Well, I've got a problem trying to stay under it now.
What accounts for these huge changes? Were the '199 version's components compressed or something where this one is not?
I don't know why the difference is so large, but it is......
Ok, I'll update that comment - There has to be some sort of duplication of files and space consumed in this one.
I stripped damn near everything I usually stick in the ROM - I mean everything - and I still wound up with a file that was too big and wouldn't flash!
I even went so far as to go back and "squeeze" things that hadn't been squeezed in the base ROM in an attempt to make it fit, and still no-go.
To give you an idea of what's in there that fails, I literally have the Kaiser Comm MAnager, a little BT utility (about 20kb), Total Commander, MMS, 1 Calc and a couple of other small apps in the ROM. It builds far too big and won't flash.
If this is the base that you're using for the TNT series there's no way in hell you could possibly get that set of apps in there unless there's just a huge amount of cruft being left in the kitchen.
Would love to work with it but can't with this as a base.... almost nothing will fit
what is the nb0 size? I use a 19209=with what used to be 57mb then used a 59mb from Faria's kitchen... i kept getting the imfg error if I added too much stuff, so I got rid of WML to make room for stuff. You can also upx the entertainmet (games) and you can change the graphics in photoshop so they take up less space.
I also had errors when I was screwing around with some reg settings... so maybe that could be an issue with some packages.
try to add one package at a time to see which package is screwing things up..
I haven't downloaded it yet. ;aybe when I get home.
I'm in a middle of flashing my first real tentative...
I was playing around and after adding my stuff, I got 61MB which is really big
I do not know about duplication but with a OS near to 60mb, maybe it's coming with most stuff inside!
I'm now trying with much less apps. Just what I consider essential. Let's see...
I also tried to dump and then repack a new NB but didn't have luck...
still on the road....
cheers
Can anybody post a mirror for this kitchen? Rapidshare being gay today.....
so I downloaded it, and have to say I don't have much use for it. maybe backup sys files in case I screw something up. the NB0 is 57mb which meand you can not cram much stuff in it. it will build, but not flash well. I would recomend using the original nb0 or Faria's 318 which is about 2 mb bigger.
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so I downloaded it, and have to say I don't have much use for it. maybe backup sys files in case I screw something up. the NB0 is 57mb which meand you can not cram much stuff in it. it will build, but not flash well. I would recomend using the original nb0 or Faria's 318 which is about 2 mb bigger.
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amm... i think the tools chefs are using are not suitable for the nb file.
amm... i will think again to release the whole kitchen i used, the nb file i edited to give the advantages of bepe tools for porting xip and locating modules without any action by the chef, just copy and past then cook with no worries about locating and porting.
if i decided to release that, i need some time to give a good guide for the chefs .
Wise man....
By doing this way, chances to have good final results increases!
Take your time!
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amm... i think the tools chefs are using are not suitable for the nb file.
amm... i will think again to release the whole kitchen i used, the nb file i edited to give the advantages of bepe tools for porting xip and locating modules without any action by the chef, just copy and past then cook with no worries about locating and porting.
if i decided to release that, i need some time to give a good guide for the chefs .
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i will open new thread to give all details with the kitchen i'm using, but i need some time .
hi... i want a clean WM6.1 Rom for my G3 device please....
Good luck in your search travel!
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hi... i want a clean WM6.1 Rom for my G3 device please....
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So search for vanilla flavored Roms There are many... just SEARCH!!!
Are you sure about that? The only bare-bones recent WM6.1 ROM build I see is j.vd.spank's "WM 6.1 CE OS.19588 from Diamond", and that one has a few issues that were never fixed.
It might be nice to see a truly clean 20273 ROM.
It is too much vanillas please!!!!
TNT 20273 vanilla
yes that 19588!
AMP is 6.1 too...
Search people search....
But... tell me... honestly... Is there any Coocked ROM that is Perfect!????
That comment maybe starts fire on this web men!!! but I dont think so... just words...
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TNT 20273 vanilla
yes that 19588!
AMP is 6.1 too...
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TNT is new but even the vanilla version is far from "clean". AMP is older and no cleaner. No ROM is perfect, of course, but I really think evoluzionne's request is valid... and probably easily satisfied. Making a fully customized ROM must be more challenging (albeit more satisfying) than a naked version.
I used to be a believer in vanilla ROMs, but I have found that any ROM space that goes unused is just wasted. Cook your own ROM and pack it to the MAX to utilize all the space that's available. Tweak it as you find problems and recook.
The Wizard ROM holds about 80 megs (this total will decrease if you put compressed files in your ROM), but if you only cook 60 megs into it, you cannot reclaim that wasted 20 megs. You might as well use it.
I have been on a space saving crusade for the last 3 weeks and realized that my vanilla ROM was just a big waste of space. You can test it yourself by cooking a fully packed ROM, and a vanilla ROM, and check the free space for each after the first boot. (it usually says about 2 megs of storage RAM has been used. This is from initflashfiles copying files from ROM into RAM.)
During this time I also realized I could use the Extended_Rom to store some system files! I have put NetCF3.5, SqlCE3.5, and TCPMP on the Extended_Rom, and it's working great. This saves me 10 megs, my cooked ROM has over 80 APPs (before UC)! It's as fast and stable as any ROM I've tried.
-joemanb-
ahh that really what i want.. so i want a basic ROM of 6.1 so that i will able to cook it to match my own need....
(basically i often using office, email, music player, etc)
but i realize that i just cannot to just ask for it to anybody (search, search......)
wish me luck
cheers
evo
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I used to be a believer in vanilla ROMs, but I have found that any ROM space that goes unused is just wasted. Cook your own ROM and pack it to the MAX to utilize all the space that's available. Tweak it as you find problems and recook.
The Wizard ROM holds about 80 megs (this total will decrease if you put compressed files in your ROM), but if you only cook 60 megs into it, you cannot reclaim that wasted 20 megs. You might as well use it.
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That's a pretty good point. Clutter is bad regardless, and I strive for its elimination, but it is important to realize that unused ROM space doesn't translate into available storage space.
i want the litest rom 6.1 ever made.can any one suggest a best one without hanging problem
Why do yuo want the "lightest"? Don't believe that a light ROM will give more space elsewhere - unfortunately this is NOT the case! You can use any ROM and change things you don't like.
FHM's lite rom
FrauHottelMann has made a LITE rom for vox
Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3197454&postcount=1
Hopefully this is what you're looking for.
Grtz, FeareX
tobbbie i think its not correct .i dont want the windows live ,messenger etc.so it wil surely increase the memory.how can i delete these things from a normal rom.have a suggestion.
thanks
thank you fearx and i dont know whether its the one that i am seeking.i dont want any extra features just a working place with the basic needs.any idea
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thank you fearx and i dont know whether its the one that i am seeking.i dont want any extra features just a working place with the basic needs.any idea
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seems like u need to cook your own rom!
polamairan: I think, you don't know, what you want. FeareX already posted you a link to most recent and I think the best lite rom. Take it, or leave it. Or cook your own.
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tobbbie i think its not correct .i dont want the windows live ,messenger etc.so it wil surely increase the memory.how can i delete these things from a normal rom.have a suggestion.
thanks
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Oh well I am SURE it is correct. ROM is (roughly) like a fixed partition on the Hardisk of your PC - and programs you don't start are not eating your RAM. So while it may be true that some automatic start options are activating these extra programs, you can easlily (if you know how) disable this and any ROM (lite or not) is as good as the creator could make it. You can however not "delete" these programs from the ROM though. My initial hope was that a "lite" ROM would use a smaller partition of the "Harddisk", i.e. Flash ROM and allow the other part (the on-device Storage space) to grow instead - but this not the case :-(
Also the released "kitchen" for cooking ROMs to your need will always (to my experience) create (physically) equal sized ROMs, with just more or less programs bundled inside.
thank you dears for your nice advice.i am going to cook one for my needs.