new HTC models for Q4 07 - General Topics

Today press conference from HTC
http://www.htc.com/press_room/03-press-071001_02.htm
Three new models:
**smartphone S730 (S710 with 3G) no mention to GPS
**PDA P6500: 3.5in Screen! (3G, GPS)
**UMPC Shift: big disapointment: no WM6 only full blown of resource , processor and battery HUNGRY MS_Vista (although it uses WM6 core for instant access to emails, calendar, SMS messages and contacts, without the need to fully boot up the device which helps conserve power and extend battery life)
What about Keyboard Touch? EDIT: SEE BELOW NOTE
What about 3G Artemis (HTC polaris)?
NOTE EDIT: Even not appearing on the press release, Touch DUAL (touch with KB) appears in HTC products page: NO WIFI, NO GPS, NO FM radio!!!!!!!!!
more: two versions of Touch Dual with either 16 key dialpad or 20 key QWERTY

now that nike lost it's wifi
HTC polaris is the best bet to get alot
featurewise without getting a huge! device
imho

No mention of "Omni" big disappointment
Regards

htc touch dual without wifi...
but there are 2 flyer:
this one (linked early, 13:00 GMT+1)
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/products/HTC_Touch_Dual_PF1_Eng_250907.pdf
with wifi
and this one
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/products/HTC_Touch_Dual_CH_EN_300907.pdf
currently linked in htc com/europe
without wifi
error? Mistake with disabled component? In this case would be interesting to flash this on with old touch rom with wifi support...

Htc dual touch...does not have radio or GPS either...

HTC touch
friends,
I have bought HTC touch phone.
want to load it with more facilities and softwares.
how do i do?
pls help me.
my mail id is [email protected]

check out these threads,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=372
you should get all the help you need there. But a word of advice, try and read a bit before you post - and people can tell if you haven't done your research when you post like this
ramanujam said:
friends,
I have bought HTC touch phone.
want to load it with more facilities and softwares.
how do i do?
pls help me.
my mail id is [email protected]
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and from what i've heard about the Touch Dual is that different carriers with enable/disable the wi-fi. Regardless i doubt the wi-fi chip will/can be taken out.

neptune said:
Regardless i doubt the wi-fi chip will/can be taken out.
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so, do you think that in EVERY touch dual will-be a wi-fi chip? I hope we can activate it...

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smallest 3g compatable pda

I use the exec,jasjar to surf and email while working away,
however due to my job role its unsutiable to carry around druing the day
can anyone please offer any advice for a pda that i can pop my tmob uk sim in and still get online via 3g
i cant find a small 3g comptable pda,is there such a device around at this time
thank you very much
Well shortly there will be the HTC TyTN, also called Vario II amongst other names. Look up Hermes in the wiki. There's a thread in this forum you may be interested in. Or just goodle for TyTN.
Thank you just done that,im amazed that due to the amount of smaller genral 3g phones(lg,nokia,motorola)
that we dont have more 3g enabled smaller units,like a compact with 3g.
I think there's deffo a market for a smaller device that has basic phone and net services (push mail,web browsing) and less of the other pda functions
altho the TyTN looks great i must say,wonder how it fares against say the exec
If you don't mind the symbian Os then there is the Motorola a1000.
jaceuk said:
I think there's deffo a market for a smaller device that has basic phone and net services (push mail,web browsing) and less of the other pda functions
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Try MTeoR then http://www.htceurope.com/products/mteor.php

New polaris, not that impressed (ex wizard)

Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.
Please read the already posted threads relating to your questions...
These questions have been asked and answered several times before, so please use the search tool.
Stu308 said:
Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.
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Believe me..it could be one of most impressif pocketphone's out there..but the only problem with this device is that HTC didn't do there homework that good and put this device to soon on the market.
But when the new firmware (with drivers) come's online it will be one of the finest pocketphone's out there at the moment.
The only think for us is to pray that HTC will make the firmware with the drivers, otherwise it will go into be books as a slow and bad preforming device 4-ever and HTC will loose a lot of trusty customers!
But like the other also said..it's being sad in a lot off topics now..so lets use the other threads for the complenning
i agree. i bought mine a week ago. the touch cruise and i am not that impress coming from a tmobile mda aka wizard. i still use my wizard. love it but cruise slow. internet is slow. features are wack. the only good thing is the radio but i dnt listen to radio and tomtom navigation. i live in nyc i use the subway so not that usefull to me. htc better come good or its apple for me.
dortyboy said:
htc better come good or its apple for me.
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This is exactly what I'm thinking...HTC really messed this wicked phone up....Gonna wait for the Xperia or Samsung i900.
You aren't getting drivers for it. You are getting a software patch that helps fix a few things like scrolling and some basic touch screen functionality, nothing to do with video.
unfortunately, if you want to watch movies you have to convert them yourself and spend the time doing it, then you can have some fun with high quality movies or shows.
i will think twice before I buy my next handset. I don't expect the most amazing device in the world, but I don't like to be mislead in advertising.
Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.
Can someone give me some links to help please? Thanks.
JNGold said:
Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.
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How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.
pistonripper said:
How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.
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we have 2 differents polaris , mine is the all time better pocketpc (I owned all the precedent)
Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????
pistonripper said:
How is your cruise setup?
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Mine is setup like everyone else. I have done all the performance hacks I know of (WM Cache, GlypheCache set to 64K, etc). I have over 25 applications installed.
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
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Coreplayer just released 1.2 which performs much better on the TC. Also, I have encoded many of my vids for PPC viewing since I have owned nothing but WM devices for many years now.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
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Disable the shutter sound, it helps.
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago.
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Welcome to the world of Windows Mobile. However, the inclusion of Touch Flo is probably the most unique WM experience offered by a WM device.
..(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
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Install the HTC Calculator.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
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Aside from the video driver issues (which BTW hasn't bothered me that much), what software do expect HTC to ship with the device? HTC has done a good job integrating TouchFlo and HTC today into WM. It sounds to me like your complaints software-wise are more directed to MS rather than HTC.
Stu308 said:
Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????
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Since both devices are the same performance and feature-wise your only decision is whether you require a physical keyboard on the Tytn II.
pistonripper said:
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
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.
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I would suggest you installing Core Player 1.2.0
Thanks all...going to install Coreplayer 1.2.0....I did the tweaks, glyph and sound on the shutter..no effect really...maybe I've got a dud....warms up too in my hand....
Also if anyone is running the HTC home screen...which one is it ?...there so many to choose from...
Is there one specifically for the Polaris ?...I've seached and found many versions and variations.
but why does it seem as slow as my wizard? I thought the processor was supposed to be much faster? And the scrolling is finnicky to say the least.
i just downloaded coreplayer 1.3.0. whats so special about core player?
it's the player which supports most formats
I have the Orbit 2, and when I first tried using Internet Explorer I was very disappointed with the extremely slow and jerky scroll, if you could call it 'scroll'. Now that I have managed to install SPB Pocket Plus with the 'Smart Scroll' feature enabled, I'm now happy with that aspect. I haven’t tried video on it yet, but my thoughts now are that I do like the device, especially because of its form factor and looks. Before the Orbit 2 I had the SPV M3100 (Hermes), prior to this I had the SPV C500, and prior to that I had the original windows Smartphone, the Orange SPV.
For me, the Orbit is a step in the right direction, but I will be a little disappointed if video is unusable.
Overall I am happy with my Cruise (I have gotten a sim-free version). Apparently a number of people complain about speed, and I have noticed that this is also related to owners of Cruise who are on the O2 network. My guess is O2 loaded their version with useless software which reduces performance.
Regarding the video issue, I user Coreplayer 1.2 (coreplayer is a must), I encode my videos in QVGA resolution and they seem fine to me. True, you won't be able to take an existing DVD quality rip and expect Cruise to show it well, even in Coreplayer.
Performance-wise, Cruise could probably do a little better given its specs, but overall, I still think it is a very good and practival device.
Hopefully video issue will be addressed, I am not 100% confident it will be fully resolved though. Though the device works fine for me, it is quite upsetting to know that its hardware is not fully utilised...
As my closing statement have a look at the text below, from
gizmodo. com/gadgets/what.s-wrong-with-windows-mobile/whats-wrong-with-windows-mobile-and-how-wm7-and-wm8-are-going-to-fix-it-333536.php
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Microsoft is working to fix the whole WM platform. Here's how:
Even when using a super sluggish WinMo phone, it's less an example of a manufacturer not meeting the minimum requirements for RAM, ROM and CPU power, and more a problem of software which has not been optimized to run on it. This is often the service provider's fault. For example, two phones with the same 400MHz processor can be totally different depending on how much optimization the provider decides to do. When you're using a slow phone, blame the provider.
On the same token, the Windows Mobile OS team actually does set a minimum hardware requirement for the "core" features of the OS to make sure the user experience is a good one, but the minimum-requirement bar may be set too low. When companies add apps on top of the core, things start to wobble. Product manager Derek Snyder told me that Microsoft will raise the bar for minimum requirements to a level where phones can be loaded with more software without slowing down the most basic of tasks (e.g. sliding open the AT&T Tilt from portrait to landscape mode).
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HTC HD2

Hello guys,
Unfortunatly 80% of internet tells HTC LEO (HTC HD2) will come out with android.
And 20% of internet tells it will come out with WMobile.
Unfortunately I think Wmobile is the truth. Bcuz preorders are showing an Wmobile interface on the pictures.
My question is, can we put android 1.5 or higher on these devices?
Peace
Fortunatly, it'll be WM
Hi, I don't know where you heard that HD2 will come out with Android but from the first beginning, it has always been clear that HD2 will be running WM.
Don't wanna troll, but I would say .... FORTUNATLY !!! Just to show people what a windows mobile 6.5 device with capacitive display and snapdragon processor can do !!
Thomas
The confusion may stem from....
the fact that the Snapdragon "platform" is going to be used for many devices, there are a few nice previews of 1ghz processor equipped Android phones out there.
http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/Acer+announces+first+Android+Snapdragon+phone/4133
If you ask me its all good, the more they sell, the lower the unit cost, maybe we will see cheaper WM / Android on Snapdragon in the not too distant.
Also, the 1.5Ghz Snapdragon appears to be in the pipeline too.... cant wait.
MS
Where
I really wasn`t joking guys, maybe I get other links than you in Netherlands.
But most sites still claim its android build.
Anyways, I aint got nothing against WMobile.
I just want to know if there are already people trying to port it.
Thanks in advance.
Peace
dizzydix said:
I really wasn`t joking guys, maybe I get other links than you in Netherlands.
But most sites still claim its android build.
Anyways, I aint got nothing against WMobile.
I just want to know if there are already people trying to port it.
Thanks in advance.
Peace
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http://www.htc.com/www/product/hd2/specification.html
definitly WinMo 6.5
But there are rumours about an android version called "HTC Dragon"
Here is the video from HTC HD2 launch event in Taiwan:
Peter Chou shows HTC HD2 advantages over iPhone
Enjoy
Htc hd2 - gps
Hi,
Does anyone know what kind of GPS the HTC HD2 has (gps-enabled processor with internal antena or gps-enabled processor with a-gps support) and if it is capable of running software applications like iGo, Navigon or TomTom?
Yes, it is pretty confusing, but correct me if I'm wrong:
1. When reading specs of a cell phone and says it has/supports "A-GPS", I assume that that phone has a gps-capable processor but locking onto satellites it is being done through the Internet connection (it probably connects to a site that will tell the phone the position of the satellites) and it does not have a dedicated "com" port and "baud" rate. The navigation applications are simple and cheap (mostly based on Google maps). A good example would be the iPhone that has A-GPS only. A dedicated navigation software such as iGo or Navigon (even Tomtom) would search for a "com" port and "baud" rate so it won't work with A-GPS-enabled phones.
2. When the specs. of a phone says Internal GPS or Dedicated GPS, I assume that that phone not only has a gps-enabled processor (like above) but also has an internal antena that will help the device to lock onto satellites without Internet support (a-gps). A dedicated navigation software (iGo, Navigon, Tomtom) will work on this device because it has a "com" port and "baude" rate required for those applications to run. So, if you are in the desert, you don't have cell phone signal but enough battery, the gps will guide you out of there. Shortly put, with GPS enabled phones (not A-GPS or Q-GPS, etc) you don't rely on Internet or network signal (signal triangulation) and you can run professional navigation softwares.
So, what kind of GPS the HTC HD2 has?
I have read that this replaces the Thoth 100 but PDADB.NET still shows the THOTH coming out this quarter. Is the THOTH still alive as a separate device?
The HD2 should have a real GPS chip. as in Internal Antenna. Will take a heck of a time to lock to the satellites, tough, 10 minutes at first run. That's why A-GPS is useful (Quick GPS).
Well Said. WM forever!
tlefeuvre said:
Hi, I don't know where you heard that HD2 will come out with Android but from the first beginning, it has always been clear that HD2 will be running WM.
Don't wanna troll, but I would say .... FORTUNATLY !!! Just to show people what a windows mobile 6.5 device with capacitive display and snapdragon processor can do !!
Thomas
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Well said Thomas! Also to all others, the best thing about any windows mobile is that you can always see and check what is happening in the background or what the CAB's contents are (meaning super customisable), Android, i-phone and many others are data collecting freaks who wanna know what populations are thinking and doing. In my opinion, windows mobile Os is number 1 and always will be (check whats on ya pc.lol) second is Symbian Os! I'm sure all other mobile Os's appart from windows mobile has developed themselves using Symbian ideas!!

Which HTC phone?

Seeking a HTC phone With,
- WM OS,
- 3G,
- Focused Camera plus Videocall Camera,
- Bigger Screen, Ram and Rom
- GPS,
- Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate,
- Wi-fi,
- BT,
preferably with,
- Radio
Would you tell me which one???
Many HTC phones out there have those specs... but if you have the money I would go for the HD2.
You can also wait for Q2 of 2010, there will be lots of nice new phones coming out.
Go for Rhodium or Leo!
unfortunatelly, none is relevant reply..
Ths anyway...
Device Database
sas_sas said:
unfortunatelly, none is relevant reply..
Ths anyway...
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Why not?
Maybe you can explain your question a bit better?
Why buy a phone at beginning of year?
Wait till Q2 or Q3 for a new device i think its stupid with all the new and faster things that might work on 4G instead of 3G.

What phone to chose?

Okey so I want an awsome phone with GPS, wifi, touch screen with a big screen, a new release, good OS, money is not a problem I will use it for SMS, IM (Skype), browsing internet, music, gaming and etc (CPU Snapdragon pls)
P.S. Sorry for my bad english, cheers
edruig said:
Okey so I want an awsome phone with GPS, wifi, touch screen with a big screen, a new release, good OS, money is not a problem I will use it for SMS, IM (Skype), browsing internet, music, gaming and etc (CPU Snapdragon pls)
P.S. Sorry for my bad english, cheers
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Ok, I did not check the CPU, but if money is no object, go to HTCs website and look at the details for these:
1) HTC Shift
2) HTC HD2
3) HTC Hero
4) HTC Touch Pro/2
5) HTC Touch Diamond 2
mmm.333 said:
Ok, I did not check the CPU, but if money is no object, go to HTCs website and look at the details for these:
1) HTC Shift
2) HTC HD2
3) HTC Hero
4) HTC Touch Pro/2
5) HTC Touch Diamond 2
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HTC Shift - too big..
HTC HD2 - it looks great, the size the shape and even the CPU
HTC Hero - don't like the design
HTC Touch Pro 2 -too slow
HTC Touch Diamond 2 - too slow and don't like the design..
What about Nexus one?
You can always use pdadb.net for help on choosing a device
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdachooser
Hardware keyboard needed?...
WM or Android?...
Size screen?...
For WM get the HD2!
I can vouch for the Nexus One. Google-supported, meaning lots of rom updates (hopefully), lots of great features out of the box, intuitive UI, speedy phone with the Snapdragon processor.
If you get one, try and protect the screen. It seems that the screen can get hairline scratches easily. Treat it like your child
orb3000 said:
You can always use pdadb.net for help on choosing a device
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdachooser
Hardware keyboard needed?...
WM or Android?...
Size screen?...
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Hardware keyboard needed? not really, i can use virtual keyboard
WM or Android? doesnt matter, but wich one is better and has more programs and games
Size screen? tbe bigger the better
No anserws, bump. :|
edruig said:
Size screen? tbe bigger the better
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Leo is your way
orb3000 said:
Leo is your way
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You mean HD2?

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