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Changing my Jasjar to what?

What device do you recommend?
I ve been using Jasjar since realesed. And I would like to move to a new one but don't know which one to choose. I was waiting for HTC Omni but no colse or near ralease date.
Please give me any idea of which device to chose that is similar in qualities especially the big screen.
Best Regards....

do you have any specific requirements. The HTC advantage seems a worthy replacement for the universal.

A device with 3.5" display that fit in pocket
Thank you for your quick respose.
Don't you think The HTC advantage is a bit big and bulky? Additionally 5" screen is too big. I think 3.5 " inch screens might fit nicely in my pocket.
If you were using HTC advantage device, please tell me your experince with it. And would it be easy to move from Universal with WM6.1 device to it.
I am looking for a device that 3.5" display with as much additional features as possible. Like GPS, FM, 5MP Camera, big RAM, and so on.
Best Regards
fzzyrn said:
do you have any specific requirements. The HTC advantage seems a worthy replacement for the universal.
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basicaly you are waiting for the Sony Xperia X1 (still made by HTC) to be released
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...eria-x1-qwerty-with-windows-mobile-and-hsupa/
im waiting for it too

Any other recomendations from todays devices?
Best Regards...
ice_coffee said:
basicaly you are waiting for the Sony Xperia X1 (still made by HTC) to be released
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...eria-x1-qwerty-with-windows-mobile-and-hsupa/
im waiting for it too
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Most of those requirements can be covered by the Kaiser, but the screen is less good.

I am realy currently considering Kaiser & other devices. But screen size is important to me. What about the processor speed? (Qualcomm® MSM 7200, 400MHz) compaired with Universal ( Intel Bulverde 520 MHz processor)!!!! I don't know which one is faster.
Additionally, any body know anything about HTC Omni when will it be released?
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Most of those requirements can be covered by the Kaiser, but the screen is less good.
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The kaiser is fast, and with the driver update suposedly arriving soon, it'll get better. I can't pass any judgements as I have only used a universal for a few minutes. There are no HTC devices (other than the uni) that have a VGA screen... (theres the athena and the shift but they are to big for pockets.)

fzzyrn said:
do you have any specific requirements. The HTC advantage seems a worthy replacement for the universal.
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Note that its keyboard is WAY worse than that of the Universal - even that of the new x7510 version.

l3v5y said:
The kaiser is fast, and with the driver update suposedly arriving soon, it'll get better. I can't pass any judgements as I have only used a universal for a few minutes. There are no HTC devices (other than the uni) that have a VGA screen... (theres the athena and the shift but they are to big for pockets.)
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And the Shift isn't really a WinMo device either - its WinMo module is only used to set up connections, nothing else.

I was using the Shift as an example of the maximum screen size on anything that uses Windows Mobile as an OS.
Some of the Toshiba devices have an 800*480 screen (the G900 for exampl) but I have no idea what they are like to use.

Any Other Device
Any Other Device that you recomend I can change to other than thos mentioned?
Best Regards

Make sure you read my MWC posts - I've posted (and will post - prolly today) quite much on the latest (W)VGA announcements.

Menneisyys said:
Make sure you read my MWC posts - I've posted (and will post - prolly today) quite much on the latest (W)VGA announcements.
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Thank you very much. That was enlighting and excelleant info. I visited the following link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1983172
any other links available.
These are the devices you recommended (S-E XPERIA X1, E-Ten V900, Gigabyte MS808)
But they will only be released in the second half of the year !!!!!!!!
What abou current devices equevelant or close to universal !!!!
Best Regards

Any new ideas about changing my Universal to a beter device !
Best Regards

New polaris, not that impressed (ex wizard)

Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.

Please read the already posted threads relating to your questions...
These questions have been asked and answered several times before, so please use the search tool.

Stu308 said:
Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.
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Believe me..it could be one of most impressif pocketphone's out there..but the only problem with this device is that HTC didn't do there homework that good and put this device to soon on the market.
But when the new firmware (with drivers) come's online it will be one of the finest pocketphone's out there at the moment.
The only think for us is to pray that HTC will make the firmware with the drivers, otherwise it will go into be books as a slow and bad preforming device 4-ever and HTC will loose a lot of trusty customers!
But like the other also said..it's being sad in a lot off topics now..so lets use the other threads for the complenning

i agree. i bought mine a week ago. the touch cruise and i am not that impress coming from a tmobile mda aka wizard. i still use my wizard. love it but cruise slow. internet is slow. features are wack. the only good thing is the radio but i dnt listen to radio and tomtom navigation. i live in nyc i use the subway so not that usefull to me. htc better come good or its apple for me.

dortyboy said:
htc better come good or its apple for me.
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This is exactly what I'm thinking...HTC really messed this wicked phone up....Gonna wait for the Xperia or Samsung i900.

You aren't getting drivers for it. You are getting a software patch that helps fix a few things like scrolling and some basic touch screen functionality, nothing to do with video.
unfortunately, if you want to watch movies you have to convert them yourself and spend the time doing it, then you can have some fun with high quality movies or shows.
i will think twice before I buy my next handset. I don't expect the most amazing device in the world, but I don't like to be mislead in advertising.

Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.

Can someone give me some links to help please? Thanks.

JNGold said:
Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.
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How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.

pistonripper said:
How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.
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we have 2 differents polaris , mine is the all time better pocketpc (I owned all the precedent)

Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????

pistonripper said:
How is your cruise setup?
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Mine is setup like everyone else. I have done all the performance hacks I know of (WM Cache, GlypheCache set to 64K, etc). I have over 25 applications installed.
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
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Coreplayer just released 1.2 which performs much better on the TC. Also, I have encoded many of my vids for PPC viewing since I have owned nothing but WM devices for many years now.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
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Disable the shutter sound, it helps.
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago.
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Welcome to the world of Windows Mobile. However, the inclusion of Touch Flo is probably the most unique WM experience offered by a WM device.
..(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
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Install the HTC Calculator.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
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Aside from the video driver issues (which BTW hasn't bothered me that much), what software do expect HTC to ship with the device? HTC has done a good job integrating TouchFlo and HTC today into WM. It sounds to me like your complaints software-wise are more directed to MS rather than HTC.

Stu308 said:
Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????
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Since both devices are the same performance and feature-wise your only decision is whether you require a physical keyboard on the Tytn II.

pistonripper said:
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
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I would suggest you installing Core Player 1.2.0

Thanks all...going to install Coreplayer 1.2.0....I did the tweaks, glyph and sound on the shutter..no effect really...maybe I've got a dud....warms up too in my hand....
Also if anyone is running the HTC home screen...which one is it ?...there so many to choose from...
Is there one specifically for the Polaris ?...I've seached and found many versions and variations.

but why does it seem as slow as my wizard? I thought the processor was supposed to be much faster? And the scrolling is finnicky to say the least.

i just downloaded coreplayer 1.3.0. whats so special about core player?

it's the player which supports most formats

I have the Orbit 2, and when I first tried using Internet Explorer I was very disappointed with the extremely slow and jerky scroll, if you could call it 'scroll'. Now that I have managed to install SPB Pocket Plus with the 'Smart Scroll' feature enabled, I'm now happy with that aspect. I haven’t tried video on it yet, but my thoughts now are that I do like the device, especially because of its form factor and looks. Before the Orbit 2 I had the SPV M3100 (Hermes), prior to this I had the SPV C500, and prior to that I had the original windows Smartphone, the Orange SPV.
For me, the Orbit is a step in the right direction, but I will be a little disappointed if video is unusable.

Overall I am happy with my Cruise (I have gotten a sim-free version). Apparently a number of people complain about speed, and I have noticed that this is also related to owners of Cruise who are on the O2 network. My guess is O2 loaded their version with useless software which reduces performance.
Regarding the video issue, I user Coreplayer 1.2 (coreplayer is a must), I encode my videos in QVGA resolution and they seem fine to me. True, you won't be able to take an existing DVD quality rip and expect Cruise to show it well, even in Coreplayer.
Performance-wise, Cruise could probably do a little better given its specs, but overall, I still think it is a very good and practival device.
Hopefully video issue will be addressed, I am not 100% confident it will be fully resolved though. Though the device works fine for me, it is quite upsetting to know that its hardware is not fully utilised...
As my closing statement have a look at the text below, from
gizmodo. com/gadgets/what.s-wrong-with-windows-mobile/whats-wrong-with-windows-mobile-and-how-wm7-and-wm8-are-going-to-fix-it-333536.php
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Microsoft is working to fix the whole WM platform. Here's how:
Even when using a super sluggish WinMo phone, it's less an example of a manufacturer not meeting the minimum requirements for RAM, ROM and CPU power, and more a problem of software which has not been optimized to run on it. This is often the service provider's fault. For example, two phones with the same 400MHz processor can be totally different depending on how much optimization the provider decides to do. When you're using a slow phone, blame the provider.
On the same token, the Windows Mobile OS team actually does set a minimum hardware requirement for the "core" features of the OS to make sure the user experience is a good one, but the minimum-requirement bar may be set too low. When companies add apps on top of the core, things start to wobble. Product manager Derek Snyder told me that Microsoft will raise the bar for minimum requirements to a level where phones can be loaded with more software without slowing down the most basic of tasks (e.g. sliding open the AT&T Tilt from portrait to landscape mode).
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which PDA phone should i buy?

Hy guys! long time no see ... i have a question 4 u guys ... i whant to buy a pda phone! can any of you guide me, or tell me please which pda phone is better? i like the htc tytn II, but should i wait for the Xperia X1? or could you recomend me something else? thank you

if you are rich guy then tytn is good . but if you want GPS to work on full efficency then i prefer artimes best phone i have ever used
why artimes is best for me
1.uses sirf gps best GPS quality
2.Lots of roms are there for artimes so you can keep on changing

stylus1828 said:
Hy guys! long time no see ... i have a question 4 u guys ... i whant to buy a pda phone! can any of you guide me, or tell me please which pda phone is better? i like the htc tytn II, but should i wait for the Xperia X1? or could you recomend me something else? thank you
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I would recommend HTC HD
But first check here so you can make your own slection based on what you really need form a PDA:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdachooser
Cheers,

Assuming money isnt a problem.
You need to know what you wanna do with the PDA.
1. Do you need GPS?
2. Do you play games?
3. Fast internet?
4. Do alot of typing?
5. Powerful Processor?
6. music and/or video?
7. Advance configuration like changing roms, cooking and major software tweaking?
If all the above is yes. Raphael is the overall best.
Touch HD got no D-pad so gaming is a little tedious. It also does not have a keyboard but has a superbly large screen.
Processor need not be powerful and need not type alot? got for Asus. P750 if u have the budget P320 if not.
Are you intending to learn to cook roms and develop software. Try HTC G1 android.
They're all my opinions only. As Orb3000 wrote "But first check here so you can make your own slection based on what you really need form a PDA:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdachooser"

thank you guys! artemis is HTC p3300?? how about samsung omnia i900? is it good? i like the design and the specs ... i like the HTC HD but the price is so high ... 700 euros ... that's a lot of money that i will never spend on a PDA phone! I had the LG KS20 in may this year and i was very, very disappointed!

stylus1828 said:
.. samsung omnia i900? ..
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So far there has only been one good response to your question (Serphinox). You need to identify what YOU want the phone to do and be specific. All you will get is blatent favourtism with the way your question is worded.
Blatent favourtism...... (and my honest, very experienced opinion)
I have owned serveral HTC phones and regreted each one eventually. I now have an Omnia with the HJ5 firmware (a must!) and its absolutley awesome. It kicks some serious HTC booty. I've had a Blue Angel, TyTN, TyTN 2 and currently still own a Touch Diamond (Of all my HTC phones, I've had at least 2 of each due to hardware failures/poor manufacturing). Which phone do I use everyday? The Omnia.... no contest. The Omnia does have a lower res screen than HTC devices but actually, this is well thought out. It allows for a longer battery life, its VERY fast at updating (even my TD with Swiftblade 7.5 don't stand a chance) and .... because its low res, its VERY finger friendly like the Iphone. Put simply, it works. I now have zero issues with it, something I have NEVER been able to say about ANY HTC phone i've used. It simply does its job, everytime, 100% of the time with no fuss. Note though: Because of the screen res, don't buy it if you want to play games as they are generaly written in the standard screen formats of which this is not. Btw, dont use Samsung Widgets, they are for Joe Punter, you want Samsung Today 2... its the daddy!
Oh, who else has 32gig storage in there phone? Currently I have some 2500+ songs and iGO8 with all the world maps ..... and still loads of storage free
You know, i've also owned a Tosh G900 which was FAR from "tosh" and again an excellent phone. I only wish more people realised there was more to life than HTC.
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edited my signature .. thank you for the great answer ! gonna get the omnia ... maybe dont know 4 sure but i believe it's a great deal. you say that the ress of the omnia screen is different from the other phones and i will not be able to play games ... now that's not GOOD
now i own a nokia e71 and i can change the ress of games and than install them into to my phone and they work ... is there a way that i could change the ress for the games that work on wm 6 devices??

stylus1828 said:
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.... you say that the ress of the omnia screen is different from the other phones and i will not be able to play games ... ...
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its not that you WONT be able to play games, its just that you need games that are coded to work with odd screen sizes - and this can be limiting. I think its fair to say that most games written now are for 480*640 (640*480) and this is not the Omnias screen size. That said, the Omnia does seem to be selling very well so I would hope more developers start creating there apps to scale mathmaticaly rather than fixed for a specific size.
Should you wish to use SPB Shell, you are also limited to the amount of custom skins available however, this will grow .... you could even create your own!
As for your games, I would think you will be ok. They should be on your PC in your activesync program. Once you create a new sync between the pc and your new device, you can then go into activesync's add programs section and select to install. Of course, if you have the individual .CAB files (which are also actually on your pc as well) then you can just drag these on to your new device and install.
edit: I cannot stress enough though, you need to update to the HJ5 rom if you buy it. Details can be found at i900.modaco.com.

I vote for the Touch Pro.

In my opinion HTC devices I own or owned (Universal, Tytn and Touch) are great devices, never had problems with them, so that makes me stick to HTC because their experience manufacturing WM powered devices, also the great support and the main reason because of this wonderfull site!!.
If you decide for the Omnia you will not have the support form this site has for HTC devices (I´m sure exist another sites for Omnia)
So once again I´ll recommend an HTC device absolutly
Just my personal opinion
Good luck on your decision!

orb3000 said:
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If you decide for the Omnia you will not have the support form this site has for HTC devices (I´m sure exist another sites for Omnia)
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Yes you do, search and see! Windows Mobile is Windows Mobile You can also get cooked roms also from various sites.
However, OP, you have not really said what your requirements are and you need to. Be specific and people can really recommend properly rather than our phones

Monty Burns said:
Yes you do, search and see! Windows Mobile is Windows Mobile You can also get cooked roms also from various sites.
However, OP, you have not really said what your requirements are and you need to. Be specific and people can really recommend properly rather than our phones
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hhmm ... this would be the important specs: big screen (minimum 2.8 inch), gps, bluetooth, wireless, 128 ram, 256 rom, 400 mhz procesor, 3.2 mp camera with autofocus, qwerty keypad !

Whats got two cylinders, does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds and holds the production record for top speed in its class?
OFFTOPIC! Monty is this your bike ???

yup. And I love it.

Monty Burns said:
yup. And I love it.
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nice bike hope you're not to crazy to go full speed with it anyway ... i'm gonna get the omnia i900 ... i think =))

stylus1828 said:
nice bike hope you're not to crazy to go full speed with it anyway ... i'm gonna get the omnia i900 ... i think =))
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as long as you upgrade to latest firmware (see i900.modaco.com) you won't regret it. I would recommend though you try and see if you can get an Omnia-T. As mentioned, same phone but has DVB-T and 800*480 screen - although this will decrease battery life a little.
Anyway, enjoy!

Monty Burns said:
as long as you upgrade to latest firmware (see i900.modaco.com) you won't regret it. I would recommend though you try and see if you can get an Omnia-T. As mentioned, same phone but has DVB-T and 800*480 screen - although this will decrease battery life a little.
Anyway, enjoy!
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Double resolution?????? DVB-T Support ???? BUT,
Omnia -T is for Korea??? if yes I dont know how i'm gonna get it!

Ebay is your friend (if you can stretch to a non-contract phone) or im sure it will be available in the UK/Europe soon

finally got my OMNIAAAAAA ! it's such a beautiful phone and smart 2 !

Monty Burns said:
I only wish more people realised there was more to life than HTC.
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I only wish more people realised there was more to life than a HTC forum.

THE BEST PDA IN 2008 (in your opinion)

as in the topic.. what was the best pda in 2008 for you?
i think its Xperia X1

kamilanglia17 said:
as in the topic.. what was the best pda in 2008 for you?
i think its Xperia X1
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Welcome to the forum!
My vote goes for HD

I agree with orb that it's HD for 2008!
bty, there are already many threads on this "best" subject...

all i see anywahere is alk about the HTC touch. never used one but i guess it has to be a great phone

I think it should be the HTC Touch Diamond, because it's internet memory of 4gb

kamilanglia17 said:
as in the topic.. what was the best pda in 2008 for you?
i think its Xperia X1
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why X1?
Fuze/raphael/HD does everything X1 does, minus the $1000 price tag and pkus better performance.
Fuze and G1 get my vote

......sneaks in....
iPhone?
.....runs VERY fast and very far away......

asbestos said:
......sneaks in....
iPhone?
.....runs VERY fast and very far away......
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LMAO.... if it was "best overrated toy of 2008"
if best pda means best specs, features, and style... touch pro all the way
but i vote for the Titan for the sole reason that its over a year old and has gone through it all and still up to date with current models. from locked to unlocked gps, crappy internet speeds to evdo rev-a upgrade, wm6.0 to wm6.1, from standard wm today to htc home to manila2d etc. etc.
unlike the iphone who needed to release a 2nd gen model just to get 3g speeds

TOUCH PRO! ...with an extended battery.

kamilanglia17 said:
as in the topic.. what was the best pda in 2008 for you?
i think its Xperia X1
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Hmmm, you should have added a vote with the most common devices listed!
However, 'BEST PDA' is really a personal opinion - it all depends what you use it for! There are certain criterias, so, if you ask me about the keyboard, I most likely would say: Tytn II. If you ask me about the performance and features, I would say: OMnia. If you ask me about the design, well, I can't help it: X1!!!

Samsung i780...

A701 rules
I'm still using the A701 and I think it's a good allround device.

Charevian said:
I think it should be the HTC Touch Diamond, because it's internet memory of 4gb
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By that criteria it should be the Nokia N97 since it has 32 GB of ROM.
Gundem said:
why X1?
Fuze/raphael/HD does everything X1 does, minus the $1000 price tag and pkus better performance.
Fuze and G1 get my vote
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The X1 has more RAM than any of the phones you listed and a higher resolution screen than all but the HD.

..and xperia looks way better than others, also got keybord and xpanels which are more useful than touchflo3d also better battery, and camera(pictures are looking better on screen on x1 than on others, only hd got more MPX) and LED

Touch Diamond.
Small and sexy with sharp display, only negative about the device is the poor battery.

thats why there is an comm-menager to switch on/off the data and wifi and bluetooth on this device?
and thats why u get an charger in your box with it

AND THE WINNER IS......
SONY ERICSSON XPERIA X1 [SEX1] !!!
(IMHO)
Why ?? Well, matter of choices really, I won't argue; just speak out my oppinions:
Sony has done a cool blend of high tech and art here. A real "convergence device". HTC is GREAT, but HTC+SONY=SYNERGY !!!
I've had the tytn, diamond, blackstone... none of them gathered what Sony put in here:
1- beutiful WVGA screen
2- handsome and sexy metal case
3- cool LEDs
4- "bunny-forever" big battery
5- biggest RAM in the market
6- hardware keyboard
7- Sony's "panels" interface with the neat Sony media panel
8- etc etc etc

LOL, I just don't see that this thread is going anywhere ... evry1 has a different opinion anyway, so, what is the point ???

Agree
Perhaps if all can vote here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362 (Only devices made by HTC and supported on this site)
We could get concrete results

I seen this topic before but i made this one because some people may put here pda's like Asus or something... i didnt meant only HTC devices and only made in 2008

i need to buy one HTC wich model is good?

wich HTC model is best at the moment, im confus wich one to buy.
HTC Tattoo ?
HTC Touch2?
HTC Touch Diamond2 ?
HTC Touch Diamond ?

Touch Pro 2 definitely!

orb3000 said:
Touch Pro 2 definitely!
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He has not mentioned "Touch Pro 2". Tattoo and Touch2 are identical except the Tattoo is an android device while Touch2 is a win-mo. Diamond is now old phone where as the rest three are newer devices. If you want win-mo then either Touch2 or Diamond2 will be your choices. Touch2 must be cheaper than Diamond2. The advantage of Diamond2 over Touch2 is the former one has higher resolution.

pkshr said:
He has not mentioned ....... has higher resolution.
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He didn't ask for that..
He asked this:
wich HTC model is best at the moment, im confus wich one to buy.
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So: The Touch Pro 2 is the best at the moment!
And if you wait some more time... HTC Leo

pkshr said:
He has not mentioned "Touch Pro 2". Tattoo and Touch2 are identical except the Tattoo is an android device while Touch2 is a win-mo. Diamond is now old phone where as the rest three are newer devices. If you want win-mo then either Touch2 or Diamond2 will be your choices. Touch2 must be cheaper than Diamond2. The advantage of Diamond2 over Touch2 is the former one has higher resolution.
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He wanted to know which is the best
So, for me TP2 is the best, even if it´s not included on it

orb3000 said:
He wanted to know which is the best
So, for me TP2 is the best, even if it´s not included on it
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Overloaded said:
He didn't ask for that..
He asked this:
So: The Touch Pro 2 is the best at the moment!
And if you wait some more time... HTC Leo
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Indeed TP2 is the best at the moment, I though OP gave four choices - so I corrected orb's view. Did n't want to argue with him or you - my bad sorry guys. Be cool.

what is the price now TP2 ?

Google is your friend!
That will depend on which country are you located

[email protected] S said:
wich HTC model is best at the moment, im confus wich one to buy.
HTC Tattoo ?
HTC Touch2?
HTC Touch Diamond2 ?
HTC Touch Diamond ?
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Wait and get the Leo when it comes out next month.

Touch Pro 2 is definitely best w/ WM & keyboard...check out the Rhodium section for the scoop.
If no keyboard, then wait for the Leo

galaxys said:
Touch Pro 2 is definitely best w/ WM & keyboard...check out the Rhodium section for the scoop.
If no keyboard, then wait for the Leo
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Couldn't have said it better myself. My personal choice would be Leo for sure .

Touch Pro 2. Its the BEST.

pkshr said:
He has not mentioned "Touch Pro 2". Tattoo and Touch2 are identical except the Tattoo is an android device while Touch2 is a win-mo. Diamond is now old phone where as the rest three are newer devices. If you want win-mo then either Touch2 or Diamond2 will be your choices. Touch2 must be cheaper than Diamond2. The advantage of Diamond2 over Touch2 is the former one has higher resolution.
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did i miss something? The Tattoo and Touch2 look diffrent to me. They may have identical hardware specs, but that doesnt make them identical (apart from the os). They have diffrent dimensions and a diffrent key layout and you can change the case of the Tattoo for an individual look.
And the "except" you mentioned is probably the biggest thing. I switched to an android phone and will never switch back (have no faith in winmo7).
@[email protected] S
So, if you only consider the phones you mentioned, i would go for the tattoo... (or any other android phone)

Diamond 2 of those 4 you listed for sure.