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Unfortunately my friends, this is the end of an era
Most of our legendary developers (JWright, Midget, Leo, Beasty, Helmi) now have different devices, or looking at a new one anyway.
Hopefully our other developers and cookers can continue their work, but it is unlikely that we will see new ROMs and completely new builds of WM6 as we have seen in the past.
I would ask you that you always read the wiki first, and that you don't clog the threads asking developers to release new versions
funny ,,,, it means that i last developer who may do complete new build for uni
mo3ulla said:
funny ,,,, it means that i last developer who may do complete new build for uni
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I stand corrected
Nevertheless, we're running out of developers for the Universal...
Just got to wait for the Omni
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wait for the Omni
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omni is not replacement
+external screen
+-more 3g standarts ( for som countries + but for most part of world useless)
-+128 mb ram by default /// good .. but uni also may have it
-unstandart screen ... pixel doubling tecnology will not work ... it cause troubles in software compability with screen dependable apps
-processor mch slower than in old uni
-screen rotation mechanizm have more details ... his durability will much lower neither universal construction
-fullsize sd unsupported.. you may sat bye bye to 16 gb cards
mo3ulla said:
omni is not replacement
+external screen
+-more 3g standarts ( for som countries + but for most part of world useless)
-+128 mb ram by default /// good .. but uni also may have it
-unstandart screen ... pixel doubling tecnology will not work ... it cause troubles in software compability with screen dependable apps
-processor mch slower than in old uni
-screen rotation mechanizm have more details ... his durability will much lower neither universal construction
-fullsize sd unsupported.. you may sat bye bye to 16 gb cards
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Un-standard Screen:
There are a couple of other devices with this (so Microsoft must have a solution). But your right, there are a lot of poorly written applications out there.
Processor:
Although the clock speed is slower, it has a better version of the ARM commands (ARM V6 instead of the Uni's ARM V5TE). Also, it has a dedicated graphics processor (instead of the Uni's shared CPU\GPU)
Screen Rotation:
Haven't actually heard anything about the screen rotation (do you have a link?). But yes, if its more complex then its more likely to fail
SD Card:
Unfortunately I do have to agree with you on this. Micro-SD is available upto 12Gb (http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/sandisk-crams-12gb-onto-a-microsdhc-card/) it is *a lot* more expensive than standard SD
So, if the Omni is not a good replacement, and the Universal is growing old - (I can't believe I'm about to ask this question, I love my Uni!) what can we switch to??
I really hope Mo3ulla & Ranju will come up something good and stable and hopefully final (bugs free, welll almost...) ...
TehPenguin said:
Unfortunately my friends, this is the end of an era
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It is a sad day for all of us.
TehPenguin said:
Processor:
Although the clock speed is slower, it has a better version of the ARM commands (ARM V6 instead of the Uni's ARM V5TE). Also, it has a dedicated graphics processor (instead of the Uni's shared CPU\GPU)
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hihi .. in thispart not so easy as you think.. without software what will support this new features ... this features will be only on paper
1. windows mobile work based on v4 commands ....
2. you need program which will support this .. BUT PROGRAM WILL BE UNCOMPATIBLE WITH OLD PROCESSORS..... will software developer write such program ? if they may write in v4 which supports all processors ?
BTW.... uni not ARM V5.... UNI ARM V4
3 dedicated graphics processor - usless due limited front of work .... for what purposes you will use this graphic ?
games ?
hdtv films? (films bigger than 2gb)
external video out ?
for others purpuses shared xscale graphics more that enogh
mo3ulla said:
hihi .. in thispart not so easy as you think.. without software what will support this new features ... this features will be only on paper
1. windows mobile work based on v4 commands ....
2. you need program which will support this .. BUT PROGRAM WILL BE UNCOMPATIBLE WITH OLD PROCESSORS..... will software developer write such program ? if they may write in v4 which supports all processors ?
BTW.... uni not ARM V5.... UNI ARM V4
3 dedicated graphics processor - usless due limited front of work .... for what purposes you will use this graphic ?
games ?
hdtv films? (films bigger than 2gb)
external video out ?
for others purpuses shared xscale graphics more that enogh
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You are absolutely right, we are really not benifited from the v5...v6 ARM commands. Eventually I'm sure that the shared xscale graphics is more than enough (unless you're using your uni as a playstation).
Hi guys,
Just to let you know I'm still around with the Uni.
I have bought a Kaiser for the wife, and will be spending a bit of time over in the Kaiser forum, but have not given up on Rom Dev for the Uni, and have not found anything yet that makes me want to retire my Uni.
It will however be quite a while before I get round to a new Rom release.
Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
Ditto Beasty - I'm not jumping ship anytime soon.
The only weakness I can see with the Uni is the 64mb ram, and that can always be fixed.
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Hi guys,
Just to let you know I'm still around with the Uni.
I have bought a Kaiser for the wife, and will be spending a bit of time over in the Kaiser forum, but have not given up on Rom Dev for the Uni, and have not found anything yet that makes me want to retire my Uni.
It will however be quite a while before I get round to a new Rom release.
Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Your words were a beam of light through the clouds. In fact, uni is the best PDA till now any one could obtain it. I have had uni since its firts release at the end of 2005, but due to an accident i converted to many other PDAs, wizard, profit and Tytn. In a lucky day i found a person who repaired my Uni, I was too happy to return back to Uni enjoying all what i have lost with other PDAs, the big and high resolution screen, the full keyboard with dedicated 0-9 numbers keys, a tab and big buttons. with the angeled screen i can use the keyboard to dial numbers easly (in wm6 of course) i seldom use the touch screen now to dial, beleive me i have the sensation the I got freed again after a long time of constriction with other PDAs.
But unfortnately there is some cons with uni without them i"ll never think to convert away from uni for more couples of years:
- The problems in radio:
1- the hanging that may occur when dialling, where the screen is stuck on dialing but not actually dialing and u cannot end call. You can go away from phone and use PDA but u must soft reset to use phone again.
2- this occured only once with me, where many persons called me but the phone didn'r ring nor notify the call by any means, every thing is ok with the PDA, i can use it normally but the GSM module is not working at all.
3- The uni may hang with incoming calls, it will hang with the incoming call screen popup without notifyin me, and i discover it when come to use Uni.
- The deficient vedio call in wm6 (it is not so important, i don't use it for routine calls)
- The incompetability of VGA screen with many new enhancements from HTC for devices starting from touch series (HTC album, touchflo technology, HTC home,.....). But this is not so important also, as there is other sotware that colud compensate such as Spb pocket plus 4+.
I don't know much about Omni, but from ur opinions about it, i think it is not a huge jump from Uni, and there is no need to convert to it from lovely Uni.
Regards
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Hi guys,
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Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Well said Beasty! Thanks for uplifting 'downed' spirits!
Not only Mamaich, we also have The Darkforces Team just in case people had forgotten that most of the new ROM builds floating around came from them, remember the leaked ROM a few months back?
I think our Uni has some juice left even for WM6.1 & the latest enhancements available for her younger VGA sister Athena! The 128Mb RAM hack by Mamaich will prove it's worth in the long run.
As always, a new Uni era will arrive to replace the last one!
I still have a uni, soon to have 128mb of RAM and curently running WM 6.1.1
however my main device is now a nike so my roms/posts wil be less frequent
Midget_1990 said:
I still have a uni, soon to have 128mb of RAM and curently running WM 6.1.1
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WOW!! An Universal with 6.1.1 and 128Mb...
beast0898 said:
Hi guys,
Just to let you know I'm still around with the Uni.
I have bought a Kaiser for the wife, and will be spending a bit of time over in the Kaiser forum, but have not given up on Rom Dev for the Uni, and have not found anything yet that makes me want to retire my Uni.
It will however be quite a while before I get round to a new Rom release.
Don't forget we still have Mamaich around too, as long as we have the "god" the Uni will continue to improve and expand on it's capabilities, features and functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Guess I was being a bit gloomy because I haven't updated my ROM in a few months, and I heard a few of the developers were getting new devices.
So, I'm downloading ranju's new ROM, and I'll see how that goes...
- The incompetability of VGA screen with many new enhancements from HTC for devices starting from touch series (HTC album, touchflo technology, HTC home,.....). But this is not so important also, as there is other sotware that colud compensate such as Spb pocket plus 4+.
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Thats a good point.
If a lot of HTC's software doesn't work well with VGA devices, why would HTC release a WVGA device?? Guess that kinda makes the Omni look *very* doubtful...
Midget_1990 said:
running WM 6.1.1
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how many trial period remain ????? ( who in theme will understand what i mean)
Midget_1990 said:
I still have a uni, soon to have 128mb of RAM and curently running WM 6.1.1
however my main device is now a nike so my roms/posts wil be less frequent
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Forgive me if I unintentionally overlooked you Sir as one of the ROM builders!
There it goes fellow Uni owners, our own mod itself has WM6.1.1 ROM confirmed running in Uni. I'm curious when it's going to be made "public"
My girlfriend's the one using my Uni now, and believe it or not, she's using a WM5 ROM... you know why? Because we need video call.
Ever since last year, I've been very active here in the Universal thread, always hoping for a WM6 for Uni that fully supports video call... alas.. that day never came. Although there have been other improvements for the Uni.. but none of them really concerns me. I've already had a TyTN and now a Nike.. looks like my girlfriends Uni is going to get replaced with a Nike too (since this device is just too damn sexy ). The only thing I missed would be the VGA screen (although the great features of Opera Mini, full TouchFlo support, and almost complete apps compatibility for QVGA made me miss the VGA a lot less since VGA always gives me problems with app compatibility).
We have to face it. The Universal is still being used and modded until today (much like the PlayStation2), but it's era has already ended.
DaVince said:
My girlfriend's the one using my Uni now, and believe it or not, she's using a WM5 ROM... you know why? Because we need video call.
Ever since last year, I've been very active here in the Universal thread, always hoping for a WM6 for Uni that fully supports video call... alas.. that day never came. Although there have been other improvements for the Uni.. but none of them really concerns me. I've already had a TyTN and now a Nike.. looks like my girlfriends Uni is going to get replaced with a Nike too (since this device is just too damn sexy ). The only thing I missed would be the VGA screen (although the great features of Opera Mini, full TouchFlo support, and almost complete apps compatibility for QVGA made me miss the VGA a lot less since VGA always gives me problems with app compatibility).
We have to face it. The Universal is still being used and modded until today (much like the PlayStation2), but it's era has already ended.
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Hey Davince,
Long time since we've seen you around my friend......
I have to disagree with you my friend, as far as Business productivity tool, nothing on the market has come close to the Universal......... it is the only device with a decent sized screen for writing emails and working with documents and no other device has a keyboard as comprehensive or useable as the Uni's.
The Universal era has not ended, with the introduction of Mamaich's great patch to support 128 mb memory and SDHC cards, you will find it impossible to find another PDA on the market that matches for speed, functionality and storage capacity. The Kaiser and other devices that use mini SD's can only support 16GB cards........the Uni beats that too.
The Uni has been reborn, and is far from dead my friend!!
Cheers,
Beasty
Quick question: Is the Eten Glofiish M 800 a HTC rebrand or totally thier own.
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Quick question: Is the Eten Glofiish M 800 a HTC rebrand or totally thier own.
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Their own; see http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=878
However, I'd wait for the V900 instead if you definitely want to go for E-TEN See http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1080
Menneisyys said:
Their own; see http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=878
However, I'd wait for the V900 instead if you definitely want to go for E-TEN See http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1080
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'll pass on the V 900, I need my slide out keyboard. May wait if they announce a sliding keyboard version of the 900.
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
Forgot to mention that providing VGA resolution in qVGA size is Eten and no HTC has it!
Regards,
Carty..
Does Eten provide drivers optimized for hardware video acceleration? Seeing the limitations of recent HTC phones, and having in mind a VGA resolution requires 4x the processing power of QVGA, I would say that's a must.
And, do they offer ROM updates too? HTC gave free updates from WM 5 to WM 6 for many of their phones.
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They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Yeah well if HTC keeps treating its customers like crap maybe there will be support for Eten in here(crappy phones, crappy customer support, bad or wroong drivers)
M810
MercuryTyTN said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll pass on the V 900, I need my slide out keyboard. May wait if they announce a sliding keyboard version of the 900.
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if you really need a keyboard you might wanna wait for the Eten M810, the sucessor to the M800, it looks really good with good specs, from personnal experience, the devices are good quality and the roms have plenty of OEM customazation from Eten.
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PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Hi, I had from many years a HTC Himalaya and I loved it... but now I have bought an ETEN Glofiish M800... about the Customizable ROM here u can find a recently customized Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM for the Glofiish: http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=13538
Regards,
Cristian (aka tesKing)
i dont know for these new devices but for the x500/m700 ive read in many forums that eten devices with vga screens were "slow"
but ive tested none by myself
I have a TYTNII and bought the Eten M800 due to the VGA screen. The speed is more or less the same as for the HTC, i.e. slow but still useable. However you get VGA resolution in a very good quality screen. Apart form that, the M800 is almost inusable, it has touch sensitive buttons that make the everyday use a real PAIN. The WM6 is very unstable in this device probably due to the amount of (useless) applicattions that ETEN has preloaded. I found a workaround to the problem of the buttons:
1) Disable the touch buttons using the registry (leave "OK" and the Windows logo only)
2) Change the voice comnmander by the Cyberon Voice Speed dial
Then there is the problem of the paint....mine looks like 5 years old and has les than one month. Unfortunately I sold the TYTNII... too early.
I use the M800 and I am quite satisfied so far.
Sold my Touch Dual and apart from the weird touch buttons and the small RAM its a very nice device.
There are cooked roms available and you don't need to unlock anything. just put the ROM files on a FAT16 SD card, boot, hold a few buttons and 8 mins later its done.
GPSSlovakias WM 6.1 ROM for the M800 is stable and fast, much faster than the stock ROM.
i also disabled the buttons on the front. unfortunately they are not really usable.
the M810 is nice for sure, but only QVGA!
once you get used to a VGA screen you really cant go back anymore. the difference is huge. especially with apps that take full use of it, like the excellent Netfront 3.5 browser and PocketXpdf.
also it just looks that much cleaner. on TodayAgenda I can show much more info, the SPB Plus and Phone icons looks superb, etc...
IMHO its a great device but has a few shortcommings.
what i would love in the next eten:
128MB ram
flush screen
real front buttons
better keyboard
i would not say that the M800 is unusable. not for me, at least.
it was a great upgrade to my touch dual and as the dual has basically no hardware buttons, it doesnt make much difference that the M800 ones are unusable
btw, I used AE Button Plus for disabling the buttons as its more comfortable that way
the speed of the device is very good with the newest WM 6.1 ROM, really. and there is a new touch screen driver that resolves the 80% CPU bug when pressing the screen.
ROMs for ETEN M800
I agree that once you disable the buttons the device is just OK, specially the screen pays for the rest of the troubles (shared in part by HTC devices). However, I miss the nice send and end buttons of the TYTNII. Where do you get the cooked ROMs? Do you know if there is any available in spanish? I had to buy the WME version because apparently they don't market the device in Spain or any spanish speaking country or I haven't located any dealer selling a spanish version... Maybe it still does not exsist.
I've been able to enter in bootlader mode by pressing power+record+hw reset, then a terminal screen prompts for a USB loader and then for a SD card image file, however I haven't found any rom so far.
here:
WM 6.1 thread
but if you can wait, a new rom version will be upped, according to the thread starter.
I have the WWE version too, as they dont make them in German
no idea if there is a spanish rom.
of course good buttons would be nice, but i disabled the lower row and use the win, ok, left, right buttons and it works well that way.
btw if you click the record button twice, the touchbuttons get locked. if you click twice again, they get unlocked. maybe this is helpful for you
I see a lot of people complaining about the touch buttons but I am having a good experience with them. I found M800 really nice and usable.
Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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What program do you use to record calls?
Thank you
Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Hi,
Could you tell, please, what program do you use to record on both ways with an E-ten?
Thank you
hi there....
should i buy this fone for 250€ ?
i got an HTC Wizard for 3 years.
The m800 is the worst phone I ever had..
Bad paint, flimsy battery cover, 64MB RAM (too low for the VGA screen).
Even my ancient universal is faster (also with 64 MB) then the m800..
Glad to have a diamond now.
My advice: it's not worth the money.
For 250 you can probably buy yourself a second hand Diamond..
Hy guys! long time no see ... i have a question 4 u guys ... i whant to buy a pda phone! can any of you guide me, or tell me please which pda phone is better? i like the htc tytn II, but should i wait for the Xperia X1? or could you recomend me something else? thank you
if you are rich guy then tytn is good . but if you want GPS to work on full efficency then i prefer artimes best phone i have ever used
why artimes is best for me
1.uses sirf gps best GPS quality
2.Lots of roms are there for artimes so you can keep on changing
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Hy guys! long time no see ... i have a question 4 u guys ... i whant to buy a pda phone! can any of you guide me, or tell me please which pda phone is better? i like the htc tytn II, but should i wait for the Xperia X1? or could you recomend me something else? thank you
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I would recommend HTC HD
But first check here so you can make your own slection based on what you really need form a PDA:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdachooser
Cheers,
Assuming money isnt a problem.
You need to know what you wanna do with the PDA.
1. Do you need GPS?
2. Do you play games?
3. Fast internet?
4. Do alot of typing?
5. Powerful Processor?
6. music and/or video?
7. Advance configuration like changing roms, cooking and major software tweaking?
If all the above is yes. Raphael is the overall best.
Touch HD got no D-pad so gaming is a little tedious. It also does not have a keyboard but has a superbly large screen.
Processor need not be powerful and need not type alot? got for Asus. P750 if u have the budget P320 if not.
Are you intending to learn to cook roms and develop software. Try HTC G1 android.
They're all my opinions only. As Orb3000 wrote "But first check here so you can make your own slection based on what you really need form a PDA:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdachooser"
thank you guys! artemis is HTC p3300?? how about samsung omnia i900? is it good? i like the design and the specs ... i like the HTC HD but the price is so high ... 700 euros ... that's a lot of money that i will never spend on a PDA phone! I had the LG KS20 in may this year and i was very, very disappointed!
stylus1828 said:
.. samsung omnia i900? ..
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So far there has only been one good response to your question (Serphinox). You need to identify what YOU want the phone to do and be specific. All you will get is blatent favourtism with the way your question is worded.
Blatent favourtism...... (and my honest, very experienced opinion)
I have owned serveral HTC phones and regreted each one eventually. I now have an Omnia with the HJ5 firmware (a must!) and its absolutley awesome. It kicks some serious HTC booty. I've had a Blue Angel, TyTN, TyTN 2 and currently still own a Touch Diamond (Of all my HTC phones, I've had at least 2 of each due to hardware failures/poor manufacturing). Which phone do I use everyday? The Omnia.... no contest. The Omnia does have a lower res screen than HTC devices but actually, this is well thought out. It allows for a longer battery life, its VERY fast at updating (even my TD with Swiftblade 7.5 don't stand a chance) and .... because its low res, its VERY finger friendly like the Iphone. Put simply, it works. I now have zero issues with it, something I have NEVER been able to say about ANY HTC phone i've used. It simply does its job, everytime, 100% of the time with no fuss. Note though: Because of the screen res, don't buy it if you want to play games as they are generaly written in the standard screen formats of which this is not. Btw, dont use Samsung Widgets, they are for Joe Punter, you want Samsung Today 2... its the daddy!
Oh, who else has 32gig storage in there phone? Currently I have some 2500+ songs and iGO8 with all the world maps ..... and still loads of storage free
You know, i've also owned a Tosh G900 which was FAR from "tosh" and again an excellent phone. I only wish more people realised there was more to life than HTC.
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edited my signature .. thank you for the great answer ! gonna get the omnia ... maybe dont know 4 sure but i believe it's a great deal. you say that the ress of the omnia screen is different from the other phones and i will not be able to play games ... now that's not GOOD
now i own a nokia e71 and i can change the ress of games and than install them into to my phone and they work ... is there a way that i could change the ress for the games that work on wm 6 devices??
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.... you say that the ress of the omnia screen is different from the other phones and i will not be able to play games ... ...
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its not that you WONT be able to play games, its just that you need games that are coded to work with odd screen sizes - and this can be limiting. I think its fair to say that most games written now are for 480*640 (640*480) and this is not the Omnias screen size. That said, the Omnia does seem to be selling very well so I would hope more developers start creating there apps to scale mathmaticaly rather than fixed for a specific size.
Should you wish to use SPB Shell, you are also limited to the amount of custom skins available however, this will grow .... you could even create your own!
As for your games, I would think you will be ok. They should be on your PC in your activesync program. Once you create a new sync between the pc and your new device, you can then go into activesync's add programs section and select to install. Of course, if you have the individual .CAB files (which are also actually on your pc as well) then you can just drag these on to your new device and install.
edit: I cannot stress enough though, you need to update to the HJ5 rom if you buy it. Details can be found at i900.modaco.com.
I vote for the Touch Pro.
In my opinion HTC devices I own or owned (Universal, Tytn and Touch) are great devices, never had problems with them, so that makes me stick to HTC because their experience manufacturing WM powered devices, also the great support and the main reason because of this wonderfull site!!.
If you decide for the Omnia you will not have the support form this site has for HTC devices (I´m sure exist another sites for Omnia)
So once again I´ll recommend an HTC device absolutly
Just my personal opinion
Good luck on your decision!
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If you decide for the Omnia you will not have the support form this site has for HTC devices (I´m sure exist another sites for Omnia)
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Yes you do, search and see! Windows Mobile is Windows Mobile You can also get cooked roms also from various sites.
However, OP, you have not really said what your requirements are and you need to. Be specific and people can really recommend properly rather than our phones
Monty Burns said:
Yes you do, search and see! Windows Mobile is Windows Mobile You can also get cooked roms also from various sites.
However, OP, you have not really said what your requirements are and you need to. Be specific and people can really recommend properly rather than our phones
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hhmm ... this would be the important specs: big screen (minimum 2.8 inch), gps, bluetooth, wireless, 128 ram, 256 rom, 400 mhz procesor, 3.2 mp camera with autofocus, qwerty keypad !
Whats got two cylinders, does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds and holds the production record for top speed in its class?
OFFTOPIC! Monty is this your bike ???
yup. And I love it.
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yup. And I love it.
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nice bike hope you're not to crazy to go full speed with it anyway ... i'm gonna get the omnia i900 ... i think =))
stylus1828 said:
nice bike hope you're not to crazy to go full speed with it anyway ... i'm gonna get the omnia i900 ... i think =))
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as long as you upgrade to latest firmware (see i900.modaco.com) you won't regret it. I would recommend though you try and see if you can get an Omnia-T. As mentioned, same phone but has DVB-T and 800*480 screen - although this will decrease battery life a little.
Anyway, enjoy!
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as long as you upgrade to latest firmware (see i900.modaco.com) you won't regret it. I would recommend though you try and see if you can get an Omnia-T. As mentioned, same phone but has DVB-T and 800*480 screen - although this will decrease battery life a little.
Anyway, enjoy!
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Double resolution?????? DVB-T Support ???? BUT,
Omnia -T is for Korea??? if yes I dont know how i'm gonna get it!
Ebay is your friend (if you can stretch to a non-contract phone) or im sure it will be available in the UK/Europe soon
finally got my OMNIAAAAAA ! it's such a beautiful phone and smart 2 !
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I only wish more people realised there was more to life than HTC.
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I only wish more people realised there was more to life than a HTC forum.
as in the topic.. what was the best pda in 2008 for you?
i think its Xperia X1
kamilanglia17 said:
as in the topic.. what was the best pda in 2008 for you?
i think its Xperia X1
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Welcome to the forum!
My vote goes for HD
I agree with orb that it's HD for 2008!
bty, there are already many threads on this "best" subject...
all i see anywahere is alk about the HTC touch. never used one but i guess it has to be a great phone
I think it should be the HTC Touch Diamond, because it's internet memory of 4gb
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as in the topic.. what was the best pda in 2008 for you?
i think its Xperia X1
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why X1?
Fuze/raphael/HD does everything X1 does, minus the $1000 price tag and pkus better performance.
Fuze and G1 get my vote
......sneaks in....
iPhone?
.....runs VERY fast and very far away......
asbestos said:
......sneaks in....
iPhone?
.....runs VERY fast and very far away......
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LMAO.... if it was "best overrated toy of 2008"
if best pda means best specs, features, and style... touch pro all the way
but i vote for the Titan for the sole reason that its over a year old and has gone through it all and still up to date with current models. from locked to unlocked gps, crappy internet speeds to evdo rev-a upgrade, wm6.0 to wm6.1, from standard wm today to htc home to manila2d etc. etc.
unlike the iphone who needed to release a 2nd gen model just to get 3g speeds
TOUCH PRO! ...with an extended battery.
kamilanglia17 said:
as in the topic.. what was the best pda in 2008 for you?
i think its Xperia X1
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Hmmm, you should have added a vote with the most common devices listed!
However, 'BEST PDA' is really a personal opinion - it all depends what you use it for! There are certain criterias, so, if you ask me about the keyboard, I most likely would say: Tytn II. If you ask me about the performance and features, I would say: OMnia. If you ask me about the design, well, I can't help it: X1!!!
Samsung i780...
A701 rules
I'm still using the A701 and I think it's a good allround device.
Charevian said:
I think it should be the HTC Touch Diamond, because it's internet memory of 4gb
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By that criteria it should be the Nokia N97 since it has 32 GB of ROM.
Gundem said:
why X1?
Fuze/raphael/HD does everything X1 does, minus the $1000 price tag and pkus better performance.
Fuze and G1 get my vote
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The X1 has more RAM than any of the phones you listed and a higher resolution screen than all but the HD.
..and xperia looks way better than others, also got keybord and xpanels which are more useful than touchflo3d also better battery, and camera(pictures are looking better on screen on x1 than on others, only hd got more MPX) and LED
Touch Diamond.
Small and sexy with sharp display, only negative about the device is the poor battery.
thats why there is an comm-menager to switch on/off the data and wifi and bluetooth on this device?
and thats why u get an charger in your box with it
AND THE WINNER IS......
SONY ERICSSON XPERIA X1 [SEX1] !!!
(IMHO)
Why ?? Well, matter of choices really, I won't argue; just speak out my oppinions:
Sony has done a cool blend of high tech and art here. A real "convergence device". HTC is GREAT, but HTC+SONY=SYNERGY !!!
I've had the tytn, diamond, blackstone... none of them gathered what Sony put in here:
1- beutiful WVGA screen
2- handsome and sexy metal case
3- cool LEDs
4- "bunny-forever" big battery
5- biggest RAM in the market
6- hardware keyboard
7- Sony's "panels" interface with the neat Sony media panel
8- etc etc etc
LOL, I just don't see that this thread is going anywhere ... evry1 has a different opinion anyway, so, what is the point ???
Agree
Perhaps if all can vote here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362 (Only devices made by HTC and supported on this site)
We could get concrete results
I seen this topic before but i made this one because some people may put here pda's like Asus or something... i didnt meant only HTC devices and only made in 2008
Looking to buy a very good Windows mobile fone
Suggest me - xperia - HTD HD - Omnia?
I personally like Xperia
my preferences are
keyboard, big screen[resolution]
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so now I am confused between HTC HD and Xperia
Xperia plus points
[1] Panel interface
[2] its stylist
[3] Physical Keyboard
[4] Better talking time
[5] Cheaper price [I can get it much cheaper.. according to ebay auctions]
HTC HD plus points
[1] Bigger Screen
[2] 5MB camera [but no flash so no use for me though]
please write the reply why should i purchase phone of your choice.. you know...
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please write the reply why should i purchase phone of your choice.. you know...
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HD has no flash for camera and no keyboard.. any one can please explain my how HD is better than Xperia?
non of them have flash for camera but some do have a led for camera but that's in a different league then real flash a much lower leagure at that
xda hd is better if one want a thiner device and no keyboard and like touch 3d
I recently was in the same boat and had the same selections as you. I opted for the omnia, first one I recieved I bricked trying to flash the official uk rom update downloaded directly from samsung site. The 2nd (still going) I nearly bricked again trying the same rom flash and ended up flashing a custom rom to recover it. There are quite a few owners having problems flashing roms (official ones mainly) over at modaco.
Overall the phone is pretty much the same, speed wise, as my trinity. I was swung to it by the memory size.
The gps works fine now I've done a tweak (again from modaco) and overall its a bit better than my old trinity (camera knocks spots off htc one).
Its a bit of a pain not being able to "see" some of my favorite software properly due to the unconventional screen size.
If I had tried an experia I might before taking the plunge I might have made a different choice.
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non of them have flash for camera but some do have a led for camera but that's in a different league then real flash a much lower leagure at that
xda hd is better if one want a thiner device and no keyboard and like touch 3d
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xperia has flash mate
petest said:
I recently was in the same boat and had the same selections as you. I opted for the omnia, first one I recieved I bricked trying to flash the official uk rom update downloaded directly from samsung site. The 2nd (still going) I nearly bricked again trying the same rom flash and ended up flashing a custom rom to recover it. There are quite a few owners having problems flashing roms (official ones mainly) over at modaco.
Overall the phone is pretty much the same, speed wise, as my trinity. I was swung to it by the memory size.
The gps works fine now I've done a tweak (again from modaco) and overall its a bit better than my old trinity (camera knocks spots off htc one).
Its a bit of a pain not being able to "see" some of my favorite software properly due to the unconventional screen size.
If I had tried an experia I might before taking the plunge I might have made a different choice.
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Omnia has smaller screen.. so its not advisable for me at least i need 800px wide screen
is there something you tell me which make me to purchase Omnia?
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Omnia has smaller screen.. so its not advisable for me at least i need 800px wide screen
is there something you tell me which make me to purchase Omnia?
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Get the HD and then u have the best PPC and the support of this XDA Forum!
btw...there's many threads around here on your same topic.
galaxys said:
Get the HD and then u have the best PPC and the support of this XDA Forum!
btw...there's many threads around here on your same topic.
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xperia is also listed here.. so i think i will get support for that too?
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xperia is also listed here.. so i think i will get support for that too?
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SE Xperia is a great device, i have been using it much and got it couple of months ago.
being a developer my self helped me getting the max out of this great device.
i will really never replace it with anything else.
very reliable and trustworthy, good build quality and great design.
i say SE Xperia X1
good luck in your choice.
Well what is xperia missing that HD has without the keyboard?... and the answer is *drumb tap* g-sensor... well my opinion is that if you don't need g-senor but would like a hardwarekeyboard the go for xperia.. well i wanted both features of xperia and HD, well both of the have bigger screen than Raphael but Raphael was my final choice and i do not regret it any time .. well i suggest you to go throguh some youtube videos with unboxing and user experience and check some applications both have and so forth..
My 2 cents, just MHO:
XPERIA X1 beats any current device because:
1- Beautiful blend between hightech and artwork
2- Beautiful blend between SONY and HTC
3- Beautiful WVGA 800x640 Sony screen (bye bye HTC Raphael/Touch Pro)
4- Cool metal case in two colours (aurevoir HTC diamond)
5- Useful hardware keyboard (so long HTC Touch HD)
6- Windows Mobile inside a Sony !! LOTS of apps and tweaks available (ciao iPhone)
7- The biggest ammount of RAM currently available
8- Sony Panels interface plus the abitlity to add TouchFlo3D as another panel
9- microSD card slot up to 16GMB (and 32GB soon)
10- Long lasting big battery, bigger than many others
11- Small and comfortable form factor (not as thick as Tytn or Touch Pro)
12- Etc etc etc
You get a great Phone from Sony Ericsson, a portable office from Microsoft, a Walkman from Sony and worldwide connectivity (choose from X1a or X1i) from HTC-qualcomm
What else do you want ??
thx gtrab your post helped me lot
can you tell me.. really it support 16GB card? cool
when do you think 32gb will be available..
and if I purchase now.. these days.. this production is more stable? or should I wait more?
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thx gtrab your post helped me lot
can you tell me.. really it support 16GB card? cool
when do you think 32gb will be available..
and if I purchase now.. these days.. this production is more stable? or should I wait more?
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Dunno when, mid year maybe
Go for a 16GB one, you wont regret, they cost around $55 on ebay and they are worth every penny
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Dunno when, mid year maybe
Go for a 16GB one, you wont regret, they cost around $55 on ebay and they are worth every penny
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No mate I meant about Xperia itself.. it supports 16GB now right? What I am asking is.. when new version of Xeria comes which will support 32GB, Actully 16GB also more than I need but just asking.
Does Xperia has stable version now? I saw couple of sellers who sells Xperia within $700 on Ebay. Are they stable versions?
its very simple for me, do you want a device that won't hardware fail on you within a year or not? If you want it to last more than a year then don't buy HTC (which includes experia).
EVERY HTC device I have owned has been back for at least one warranty repair. These include a Blueangel, TyTN, TyTN2 and .... actually i lied, my Touch Diamond is now in a draw - broken.
edit: Sorry, should make it clear. My 16gig Omnia, with its extra 16gig card, is working like a dream with no signs of any hardware failures. HTC, awesome specs .... crap build quality. All of this ofc, is in my experience.
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my preferences are
keyboard, big screen[resolution]
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Then the Omnia is NOT the choice of phone for you as a; it doesn't have a keyboard and b;its a low res. Shame, really as the low res screen has two BIG advantages - 1 its fast as f*&k and 2 it uses far less battery.
Be sure if you are going to buy the XPeria to check out DEFECTS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447211
It seems, HTC made the same mistake with the Universal. I voted for the Xperia, because of the keyboard.
Oh my days ........ that is very shocking . (Well, actually, given who make it, no its not at all)
And the case for the prosecution rests your honor.
Buy HTC manufactured devices at your peril.......
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its very simple for me, do you want a device that won't hardware fail on you within a year or not? If you want it to last more than a year then don't buy HTC (which includes experia).
EVERY HTC device I have owned has been back for at least one warranty repair. These include a Blueangel, TyTN, TyTN2 and .... actually i lied, my Touch Diamond is now in a draw - broken.
edit: Sorry, should make it clear. My 16gig Omnia, with its extra 16gig card, is working like a dream with no signs of any hardware failures. HTC, awesome specs .... crap build quality. All of this ofc, is in my experience.
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so you are saying No HTC phone is good? No Windows mobile phone is good[most of Win mobos are by HTC!)? What I should do if I want a Win Mobo?