First, I am newly signed up to XDA Developers and this is a great resource. You guys/gals really know your stuff, awesome learning from you.
On topic.
I picked up a Cingular 2125 and have been playing with it. I upgraded to the i-mate sp5 2.0.8.0 rom.
I noticed on the original 2125 1.0.9.0 (?) rom when the keys were locked and the screen / display timed out, moving the joystick didn't light up the screen. Now on the i-mate rom, the joystick does light up the screen, this causes excessive battery drain.
I played with the iPhone ROM (2.0.11.0) and it also doesn't light up the screen on joystick movement.
I did the WM6 beta romm (not the PEE version yet) and it does light up the screen.
I am coming from the 3125 (Star100) and am used to much longer battery life, I am thinking that the screen being lit up all the time is eating the batteries, has this been discussed and resolved already by you guys?
I am wondering which ROM I should settle on for the combination of best features. I am thinking about going to the PEE WM6 rom, but am wondering about this feature and will read the PEE WM6 thread in full before making up my mind.
Thanks in advance.
Brett
Edit - 20070914
- 1.0.9.0 - Original Cingular 2125 Rom - Joystick doesn't light up screen, no automatic time synchronization.
- Andot WM6 PEE version and it lights up the screen , has automatic time synchronization.
- Phil WM6 Beta version and it lights up the screen , no automatic time synchronization.
- imate SP5 2.0.8.0 and it lights up the screen , no automatic time synchronization.
- iPhone ROM (2.0.11.0) - Chinese - Joystick doesn't light up screen, has automatic time synchronization.
- HTC 2.0.13.0 2125 Rom - and it lights up the screen , no automatic time synchronization.
- Vista Rom SPV C600 2.0.14.0 - Chinese - Joystick lights up the screen - has automatic time synchronization.
Me too
I have the same problem. I am running Andot's latest on my 2125 and with the old (1.0.9.0) ROM I could run for days.
I notice it most when I use the holster that came with the phone. If I use the holster, the battery will be down to 30% by the end of the day. If I carry the phone in my pocket it will only be down to 80% at the end of the day.
I turned on the screensaver feature in Automatic Keylock to keep the backlight from turning on. It helps a bit, but the battery still runs down pretty fast since the LCD is still on without the backlight.
This is the only real problem that I have had, aside from some intermittent network problems.
hmm, so 1.09 and the iPhone rom both don't light up off of the Joystick and the iPhone ROM has automatic time synchronization, does the PEE edition have automatic time synch?
ttt with edit updates, in case anyone is interested.
So I'm having trouble with my work exchange server synch with that iPhone rom. Must be something in the registry.
Any other ROMs have those features?
fyi, I updated to the T-Mobile 1.0.14.0 ROM and it doesn't light up the display when the keys are locked when the joystick is moved.
I am running this one until I find something better. It works well for my needs. I'm hoping we can get a WM6 ROM with this feature.
Found a link to it via google.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1035146&page=1&pp=15&highlight=htc+sda+rom
Fahtrim said:
- Andot WM6 PEE version and it lights up the screen , no automatic time synchronization.
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It HAS automatic time synchronization. before updating to this ROM, everytime when I had to pull out the battery the time reset. Now, the time is automatically synched with operator's date&time.
Have you flashed Radio 4.1.13.28_02.61.01 ?
and about the light up on joystick press.. maybe there is some settings in registry? if you have time, you can dump the roms and compare the registry of them.. and see..
DSF said:
It HAS automatic time synchronization. before updating to this ROM, everytime when I had to pull out the battery the time reset. Now, the time is automatically synched with operator's date&time.
Have you flashed Radio 4.1.13.28_02.61.01 ?
and about the light up on joystick press.. maybe there is some settings in registry? if you have time, you can dump the roms and compare the registry of them.. and see..
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I'm embarassed to say that I don't know how to dump the ROMs and compare the registries. I'd be willing to do it, if someone can shoot me a link on how this is done.
we are offtopic, aren't we?
for rom dumping you need typho5.exe & tadzio's ImgfsTools
read more here
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read here how to convert registry HV to RGU .
compare the default.rgu & user.rgu from both ROM with Compare It or Microsoft WinDiff or other text comparing program.
Good luck!
I've looked into it, can't download http://rapidshare.com/files/20560641/MolskiBiz_DevPack.exe from work, but I do have the PEE rom dumped.
I also looked at the PEE rom again, and the automatic time feature is on the Date & time page (Start --> Settings --> Clock & Alarm --> Date and Time --> Automatic Time/Time zone is there), sorry for the misinformation. I will update the above now.
I was able to export PEE & The t-mobile registry with PHM and compare. They are significantly different, not sure where to start............
I'd suggest searching for keys and values containing: lock, key, stick, time, light, back ...
I've searched the reg of my WM6 Beta as well as on the internet (incl. MS sources) and found "some" keys/values but yet I couldn't find anything that seemed fitting.
Pop5k said:
I'd suggest searching for keys and values containing: lock, key, stick, time, light, back ...
I've searched the reg of my WM6 Beta as well as on the internet (incl. MS sources) and found "some" keys/values but yet I couldn't find anything that seemed fitting.
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I've tried searching on various keywords and did the ones you tried above. I made changes to Display but it messed me up and I had to completely reflash. Different drivers in different ROMS??
As an update, since running the T-mobile rom, my battery life has been noticeably better.
Yesterday I wrote up a custom home screen using RJTime and Smartmonitor, purely for function, but even with the Smartmonitor running my battery life is still much better with the "no light up when keys locked when joystick pressed"
I have done some more searches and changes. No luck. A couple of the changes made so I had to reflash the device to get display back.
This rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331319
Does it better. Hitting the joystick while key-locked will turn on the screen but only for 7 seconds - no matter what timeouts the user set for non-locked operation.
However, the rom's far from "perfect english" with quite a few elements/texts being in chinese.
Pop5k said:
This rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331319
Does it better. Hitting the joystick while key-locked will turn on the screen but only for 7 seconds - no matter what timeouts the user set for non-locked operation.
However, the rom's far from "perfect english" with quite a few elements/texts being in chinese.
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I disagree on that being better. If you are bumping the joystick constantly while in your pocket or in a holster, it is continually lighting up the screen. That is a battery killer.
I guess no luck on this issue. I have pretty much not found anything.
With "better" I meant better having the screen light up for just 7 seconds than 30, 60 or whatever else your normal un-locked display timeout is.
Obviously "best" would be if the screen did not turn on at all upon joystick presses.
I'm currently using the "WM6 HTC Edition" you can find in this forum. It's clean english and works with the 7 sec timeout as well.
My battery life drastically increased since I've started using the 7 sec versions. So I guess (unless you're wearing realy tight pants) the joystick aint constantly getting pressed. It just get's pressed every now in a while. So it's obviously better to have the screen unwanted on for "a few times 7 sec's" rather than "a few times 60 sec's" druing the day. But as I said that's true "unless you're wearing realy tight pants".
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Well... It seems that all WM6 ROMs have an issue with automatic wake-ups when you have a PIN number set. Some WM5 ROMs had it, faria fixed it in his ROMs, but apparently he couldn't (or didn't) do this in WM6. This is one big show-stopper for me...
EDIT: This seems to be a bug in WM6. If you turn off the backlight off feature in Control Panel and Auto Time Zone, you can have PIN enabled and it won't turn on, otherwise it will.
herzzreh said:
Well... It seems that all WM6 ROMs have an issue with automatic wake-ups when you have a PIN number set. Some WM5 ROMs had it, faria fixed it in his ROMs, but apparently he couldn't (or didn't) do this in WM6. This is one big show-stopper for me...
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Explain a little more
Power up after what time ?
And are you positive that it's got something to do with the PIN and not something else like an exchange server(from what i remember)?
herzzreh said:
Well... It seems that all WM6 ROMs have an issue with automatic wake-ups when you have a PIN number set. Some WM5 ROMs had it, faria fixed it in his ROMs, but apparently he couldn't (or didn't) do this in WM6. This is one big show-stopper for me...
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I am using a pin, no wake-ups yet with Faria's WM6. Lucky me I guess.
--M
Found a solution...
anichillus said:
Explain a little more
Power up after what time ?
And are you positive that it's got something to do with the PIN and not something else like an exchange server(from what i remember)?
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After ripping my hair out and testing, yes, exchange is not to blame, but I found a solution...
It is the combination of having the PIN set and blacklight off feature set to ON in the Control Panel.
Without the pin set, but with backlight off enables it stays off.
If you disable the backlight off in control panel, you can safely enable the pin - it'll stay off.
Backlight off enabled, pin enabled - it turns on.
This seems to be a bug in WM6...
herzzreh said:
Well... It seems that all WM6 ROMs have an issue with automatic wake-ups when you have a PIN number set. Some WM5 ROMs had it, Faria fixed it in his ROMs, but apparently he couldn't (or didn't) do this in WM6. This is one big show-stopper for me...
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It happened to me as well, but only when connecting my phone via USB to my vista work PC while it's version of Activesync (windows mobile device center) was configured to accept USB connections. if I disable USB connections and use the PC only for charging the phone - it doesn't happen.
I think we need more than a few people to be having this problem to call it a legit "bug"...this is really random though.
This reminds me of one of those random baseball stats like some pitcher has under a 1.00 ERA when facing lefties in the month of August when the humidity is over 80% north of the mason dixon line on an even numbered day and playing in a dome...lol...I'm just bustin' your chops bro...no worries.
I'll test myself and let ya know.
j3d1n4s7y said:
I think we need more than a few people to be having this problem to call it a legit "bug"...this is really random though.
This reminds me of one of those random baseball stats like some pitcher has under a 1.00 ERA when facing lefties in the month of August when the humidity is over 80% north of the mason dixon line on an even numbered day and playing in a dome...lol...I'm just bustin' your chops bro...no worries.
I'll test myself and let ya know.
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I also confirm that this work. I had the same bug. So I disable the backlight off and it went way...
Here's my testing...
1. no PIN + no backlight timeout = no random power-ons
2. no PIN + backlight timeout = no random power-ons
3. PIN + no backlight timeout set = no random power-ons
4. PIN + backlight timeout set = random power-ons
Looks to me like it is the combination of having both a PIN and a backlight timout set. Didn't seem to make a difference on the amount of time the backlight timeout was set for, nor did it make a difference whether the PIN was simple or complex.
Thanx.
j3d1n4s7y said:
I think we need more than a few people to be having this problem to call it a legit "bug"...this is really random though.
This reminds me of one of those random baseball stats like some pitcher has under a 1.00 ERA when facing lefties in the month of August when the humidity is over 80% north of the mason dixon line on an even numbered day and playing in a dome...lol...I'm just bustin' your chops bro...no worries.
I'll test myself and let ya know.
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It was an issue under WM5 also... it is just that I haven't suffered under WM6... bonus for me
--M
I've never seen this fault/bug before on my device and ive used underground, orwells, mun, MB,two or three of faria's and probably a few more that i cant think off of the top of my head on a cid-locked G4.
me too
i hava the same issue...
PIN and turn off backlight enabled = random power-ups
it happends with undeground edition and the one i m using now: MB
don't know other roms....
isamts said:
Here's my testing...
1. no PIN + no backlight timeout = no random power-ons
2. no PIN + backlight timeout = no random power-ons
3. PIN + no backlight timeout set = no random power-ons
4. PIN + backlight timeout set = random power-ons
Looks to me like it is the combination of having both a PIN and a backlight timout set. Didn't seem to make a difference on the amount of time the backlight timeout was set for, nor did it make a difference whether the PIN was simple or complex.
Thanx.
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confirmed this... Qtek-labeled G3 WIZA200, IPL/SPL 2.26, "nottoosmart-vanilla-WM6" main ROM, radio 2.19.11, no overclocking and no installed software yet. Any lock timer + any backlight timer = random power-ons. Experiments with the device power-off setting under Settings->Power->Advanced show no effect.
Since the battery charging and level query on these devices are traditionally handled by the radio side of things, has anyone seen any correlation between this bug (and the various power drain issues) and different radio ROM versions? I was thinking about trying 2.25.11 Cingular or 2.61.xx because the reception on 2.19.xx is just awful, even when I'm in linde of sight of a known T-Mobile-US tower.
brtb said:
confirmed this... Qtek-labeled G3 WIZA200, IPL/SPL 2.26, "nottoosmart-vanilla-WM6" main ROM, radio 2.19.11, no overclocking and no installed software yet. Any lock timer + any backlight timer = random power-ons. Experiments with the device power-off setting under Settings->Power->Advanced show no effect.
Since the battery charging and level query on these devices are traditionally handled by the radio side of things, has anyone seen any correlation between this bug (and the various power drain issues) and different radio ROM versions? I was thinking about trying 2.25.11 Cingular or 2.61.xx because the reception on 2.19.xx is just awful, even when I'm in linde of sight of a known T-Mobile-US tower.
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Forgot to mention, mine is T-Mobile-labeled G3 WIZA200, IPL/SPL: 2.26, Faria's 'The Real Thing', Radio: 2.61.11, OCd to 260-boost to 273-low to 130.
Well someones got to be different!
I have not set a pin and still have random power ons.
any suggestions for this scenario?
thanks
Bhayani
Same Issue Here
I too was having random power-ons using NotTooSmart-Vanilla and Xplore 1.1 with a password set. Unchecking the "backlight turn off" seems to have fixed the random power-on problem.
Something else I have noticed that occurs as soon as I set up a password is when I press the power button to wake up the device the screen turns on, quickly turns blank, and then comes back on. While it is not a big deal, it is annoying and I hate that I have to wait a second or two each time it wakes.
I can confirm the issue + solution. I'm using Wizard Moblie 6 Business Edition RC1.
Same issue here + Solution confirmed.
Funny but this is not the first time this issue has been spoken about. It's been a known bug for some time. Maybe next rev will fix this.
Problem confirmed on my wizard with Faria WM6 ROM.
My solution: I lock the device, it then keeps switched off...
The combination of settings has been screwing me up. Another bug when fixing the problem, if you don't have "Turn on backlight when a button is pressed or the screen is tapped," when you turn off your device and turn on, then the backlight settings goes low. With all the proper settings correct, things worked fine.
My WM6 (Build17913) changes time and date
Suddenly time and date changes on my wizard. i culnt find and workaround for this so I will dump the rom and get the older (and stable) one.
Hi, everybody.
I've searched the forum for more then hour, but didn't find what I was looking for.
I', searching for an application which would force device to power off the screen after some period of time (for example 5 seconds), if it previously occasionaly powered on. It happens for example when Send/Recieve process starts automatically every 15 minutes. And this usually causes accidental pressings on touch screren (while in cover, case, pocket/else). The result is huge power consumption and less battery working time.
I've seen this feature in S2U, but i'm allready tired of all this "iPhonomania", and looking for a usual WM-looking application, wich would have similar functions.
I'm sure I'm not alone here in such an AntiIPHONic mood, and maybe you know and can reccomend any solution?
ATT 8525 WM6.1 Diamond 3.62.12.DVH
Sorry if bad english.
Hey!
Does any one have an idea?
dimakoff said:
Hi, everybody.
I've searched the forum for more then hour, but didn't find what I was looking for.
I', searching for an application which would force device to power off the screen after some period of time (for example 5 seconds), if it previously occasionaly powered on. It happens for example when Send/Recieve process starts automatically every 15 minutes. And this usually causes accidental pressings on touch screren (while in cover, case, pocket/else). The result is huge power consumption and less battery working time.
I've seen this feature in S2U, but i'm allready tired of all this "iPhonomania", and looking for a usual WM-looking application, wich would have similar functions.
I'm sure I'm not alone here in such an AntiIPHONic mood, and maybe you know and can reccomend any solution?
ATT 8525 WM6.1 Diamond 3.62.12.DVH
Sorry if bad english.
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Welcome to the forum
Actually your WM5 or 6 has an option on settings, power options where you can configure how may minutes to turn off your device, also you can block your screen, it´ts all included in WM
Good luck
Hi all, i am usin my custom ROM on my Kayser, but battery life sucks, i can use the pocket pc almost 5 o 6 hrs with no phone calls, screen not on all time and using just EDGE (3G off)... i have screen back light too much dark as possible, so any one got tricks to get more battery life? i was thinking on this:
-Underclock (what tool its free and work perferct on kaiser Wm 6.1)
-Micro SD low energy or off when is not used (i dont remeber if this exist)
-GBS Tweak disconecting unnecesary EDGE after X time, and radio search set to dont search at start radio (done, but i lke to get the correct REG entry for cook it as default on ROM)
-Make a direct link for do a real shutdown of the Kaiser, i mean complety power off like when u press 5 sec power button
-Change the radio (wich one?)
-Any other ideas are welcome!!!
Regards!
FOR THE RECORDS (MAKE TOPIC MORE USEFUL):
- GBS Tweak for any WnMo 6.1
http://www.gb-soft.cz/xdaii/product_gprs-umts_tweak_wm61_diamond.htm
- Make a shorcut for link for complety Power Off the device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424235
Underclock, never heard before, but most of us need speed and stable offcourse,
MicroSD, less energy consumption, nice idea, would wait and see it if it's gonna be,
GBS Tweak, ever used one in Hermes, it's great, i wish i had one for my Kaiser,
Direct link to shut down, Yes there is, use pShutoff app, we can choose to reboot, lock or shut down,
Radios, we need to try and comparing, and is there any radios comparison which describe which one had less energy consumption, had never seen before,
Other, maybe start doing just important thing to our device, rather than play it without any subject, use it properly.
GBS TWEAK Win MO 6.1 i got it from the oficial homepage, here http://www.gb-soft.cz/xdaii/product_gprs-umts_tweak_wm61_diamond.htm
i think sometime i read about low micro sd consumption but dont remember where (meaby in a tweak program), i got pShutof but dosnt Power off the Kaiser, just send it to stand by!!!
Regards!
UPDATE:
Found this one, here a link for complety Power Off http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424235
Appreciate much for the links, will try it soon
Hi all
I have made a small and simple program to control the backlight. I know it can be done in WM but I think that the way to do it is not the most simple one.
The program is written in C# and therefore require .NET Compact Framework 3.5 which can be downloaded here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2ZGV1DNJ
A picture of the program and the program itself is attached.
When the program is installed it can be found under Start --> All --> Backlight Contol.
Everyone is welcome to express theirs opinion about the program, cons, pluses etc.
Last I want to mention that installation is ones own responsibility.
Update 8-07-2009:
Version 1.1 released. Now with configuration of automatic light adjustment.
Thanks.. I will try it..
I prefer 3 tap, instead of 7-8 tap in standart settings procedure..
(Start-Settings-All Settings-System-Power-Backlight-Untick Auto Level-Set brightness level (At least)...
Can you provide standalone .exe file ?
Yes, of course I can
Here you go.
ULJ said:
Yes, of course I can
Here you go.
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Thanks..
Can you add "Disable Auto Backlight" options.. ?
If it is possible, this is great util for us. Especially, ebook readers like me..
Yes, I can. And that is actually a great idea I will add that function as soon as possible. Hopefully today
Version 1.1 released. Now with configuration of automatic light adjustment.
See post #1 for picture and download.
ULJ said:
Version 1.1 released. Now with configuration of automatic light adjustment.
See post #1 for picture and download.
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You are soo fast..
Now, this is a little but very very usefull app for diamond 2...
Thanks a lot ULJ..
I love this place
For me the best soft to do this function is the LumosWizard
samarain said:
For me the best soft to do this function is the LumosWizard
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Maybe But I just wanted simple and easy to use backlight control when I enter a cinema, when I am outside or when I want to save battery. Therefore the design with big buttons. Thats all
this would be a very helpful tool - unfortunately when i try to run it, i get the message "Unable to detect current backlight level." i am able to select/deselect the box for auto adjustment, but when i tap the up or down button nothing happens. i am on wm6.5 21892. any idea anyone?
framework
Is it absolutely necessary to instal .NET 3.5?
Your soft is another promising app I cannot test because I don't want .net update.
Why wouldn't you compile app with .net 2.0?
Regards.
One TAP Backligh Adjuster
My HTC had wm6.0 and i flashed it into 6.1. in wm6.0 there was an backlight adjustment that needed just one tap too adjust device backlight. i mean when you tap on it (one time), the application increase the light one level. for next tap increase another level and finally after you reach to maximum backlight the next tap, goes device to minimum light.
I search for it any one can help?
My HTC is P3470 and this application was on original ROM
Thanks for the soft BUT
Unable to detect the current backlight level....
P3600i with WM6.5 from PDA Viet
I need a soft that can turn off backlight without off screen, just dim the screen
because when I playing movie with wmp the light on the softkey and backlight on that make the battery running out quickly
Any advisor ?
coolpixs4 said:
Thanks for the soft BUT
Unable to detect the current backlight level....
P3600i with WM6.5 from PDA Viet
I need a soft that can turn off backlight without off screen, just dim the screen
because when I playing movie with wmp the light on the softkey and backlight on that make the battery running out quickly
Any advisor ?
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use PowerOptions, with the power options, your device screen off will completely turn off the screen while WIFI, bluetooth, music etc. will still run.
WM6.5 28236.5.3.3 Simplified Chinese Version
6M PP
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12M PP
http://www.dbank.com/download.action?t=40&k=MzUzMTMwMDk=&pcode=LCwzNDMzNiwzNDMzNg==&rnd=4
http://disk.in189.com/viewfile.php?file_id=619&file_key=TAUzSQ4d
Enjoy and use at your own risk.
do u have the WWE edition?
Thanks for posting these! 很多！ I located the 三星 SIP for full screen and didn't know about 百度 until loading these up.
My experience with both 6MPP and 12MPP shows that they eat battery at an alarming rate. I couldn't find a cause. This is with the Phone and Wifi turned off but BT turned on (as I btdun through my flip phone).
The 三星全屏手写 SIP also seems to disable the touch screen input between power-off (sleep) mode at times, which when coupled with the power drain make these images a tad too unpredictable. I was able to reproduce the problem on my kitchen build after installing the SIP.
The 12MPP seems to have a large memory footprint, and I haven't figured out why or if that's the reason why there are two different images.
Did you make these yourself?