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does ipl/spl matter?

hey
does it matter which version of IPL/SPL you have?
i noticed a lot of roms asks for ipl/spl 2.xxx, mine appears to have upgraded itself to 3.08 while i was trying out my home brewed roms!
could anybody shed any help on this?
thanx

3.08 is perfectly fine...
Just that most roms were cooked b4 3.08 came out. I'd be worried only if you had a 1.x IPL/SPL...

well it seems to be occasion to ask:
- can i flash ipl/spl without need of flashing system(xplore in ex.) again,
- does it really matter: i am using 2.xx now, is 3.xx better one?
- should i go back to wizard love to flash ipl/spl?

nothin said:
well it seems to be occasion to ask:
- can i flash ipl/spl without need of flashing system(xplore in ex.) again,
- does it really matter: i am using 2.xx now, is 3.xx better one?
- should i go back to wizard love to flash ipl/spl?
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1. Yes, you can flash IPL/SPL without reflashing the OS. Just look for an IPL/SPL-only ROM. REMEMBER TO NOTE WHETHER YOU HAVE A G3 OR G4.
2. If you're on 2.xx, flashing to 3.xx isn't really necessary. I did it myself and I only notice ~10-20% faster in boot time. Otherwise, I don't really notice a difference. Some people may beg to differ though.
3. Don't quite understand what you're asking here... I've never used it myself but Wizard Love is generally used if you have boot problems... Whenever you flash a new ROM, it is highly recommended that you first flash to T-mo 2.26 or your latest carrier ROM first. Don't really know why, but from the experiences of many members here, your will encounter less problems with your new ROM.

thanks for reply...
ok, last question so far:
- are these "problems" battery related?
i have strange random issues with my power management, regardless of any method i am trying to use... it was ok, after hr is not... no clear pattern.... ;/

duke_stix said:
hey
does it matter which version of IPL/SPL you have?
i noticed a lot of roms asks for ipl/spl 2.xxx, mine appears to have upgraded itself to 3.08 while i was trying out my home brewed roms!
could anybody shed any help on this?
thanx
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the only difference i can notice on 3.xx over 2.xx is the boot time...it is incredibly faster on 3.xx...

nothin said:
thanks for reply...
ok, last question so far:
- are these "problems" battery related?
i have strange random issues with my power management, regardless of any method i am trying to use... it was ok, after hr is not... no clear pattern.... ;/
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What is considered OK? What is considered not? What are you experiencing exactly? More info plz...

before i changed my ipl/spl to 3.08..
i was running ipl @ 1.01 and spl @ 2.something.. (cant remember)
so it doesn't really matter... i could do everything i wanted...

you know, i cant find reason of power drain i am experiencing; its unclear for me completely.
everything was ok, i started to make some registry changes, and i went too far, did HR, and after setting everything again i charged battery to max and then i noticed 240-290 mA drain, cpu temp was 32-33 degrees ! softresets didnt help, so it may be some kind of internal counter, that do not reset, and machine thinks, that battery "is not" charged to max, despite showing 100%...and its discharging as mad...
now i am trying to discharge battery almost to the max and charge it again... i will see whats happen... everything was ok before HR, only tweak i used related to power was htc power management tweak... now, after HR it didnt help... i have 34 mA drain after turning machine on, but in few secs its 240-290 again... not 120, not 140, 240-290... with wifi, irda, and bt turned off..
also, machine is discharging when turned off, i mean fast power loss, noticeable faster, than usual...
i hope, that method with charging it to the max and charging again will help...
its so damn annoying..
machine was flashed with 100% battery charge, btw..
sorry for LQ english..

furian said:
before i changed my ipl/spl to 3.08..
i was running ipl @ 1.01 and spl @ 2.something.. (cant remember)
so it doesn't really matter... i could do everything i wanted...
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Numerous people have had a number of issues trying to run WM6 when the IPL or SPL was 1.xx. It DOES make a difference. The fact that it worked for you meant you were either lucky, or not seeing some of the issues (the entire rom wasn't broken, but certain features didn't work, or didn't work correctly). Go read the early WM6 threads and some of the major complaints on those roms were fixed when the phone was re-flashed so that the IPL and SPL were both 2.xx. The same issue tended to show up again when others had an IPL or SPL of 1.xx (so it was reproducible).

Radio Rom Poll

Hello guys.I thought that,it would be nice to have a poll,about radio roms.Please choose your Radio Rom,and tell if you had problems with the other ones...

2.69.21 is the best radio rom so far... 2.21.xx or lower was good... but anyting between 2.21.xx and 2.69.21 did not work fine on my Qtek S200 G3... with those roms, I got "phone not ready" problem

I didn't notice any differences beween radio roms
so I left 2.47 - the last radio shipped for prophet

the last Radio shipped 2.61
I';m using now 2.69 it it offical? please some one answer where did you get it
I had some broadcast problems in 2.69 but it was from the net work casue I go back to 2.61 and still have them
the problems I didn't recieve any messages from the channels
2.69 is good one as I'm recieving broadcast

Prophet Radio roms & battery leakage WM6 rom--TEST
7 Radio roms tested: 2.07, 2.19, 2.20, 2.30, 2.47, 2.61, & 2.69. (Device-Imate JAMin, G3)
WM6 roms used: PDAviet.v.4.0003, TrueNeytral.v.1.4 (Widcomm bluetooth stack+camera4), & TrueNeytral.v.1.4.MS (Microsoft Bluetooth stack, without camera4)
WM5 rom used: I-Mate last official WWE release.
Protocol: Same setup for every test. After each flash to new radio, ck to verify correct ver installed, 1 more soft reset, in comm manager verify speaker & phone the only ones turned on, others with X, no running phone or connection as shown by icon on top screen. Screen backlight set on 2nd mark from left. (lowest setting with light)
Used latest BatteryStatus Ext.v.1.04 beta3 release.
Results:
1. PDAviet- leakage remained about 87-92 mA for ALL radios.
2. TrueNeytral.v.1.4- leakage remained about 127-132 mA for ALL radios.
3. The above tests used the standard 1200 mAh battery (batteries used charged no less that 85%). Using High Capacity battery, 1800 mAh, all values were increased at least 50-70 mA, sometimes 120 mA or more! (Battery change protocol same for all, unit turned OFF by long press method. After battery switch, 2 soft resets before testing.)
4. Control- last Imate WM5 rom & radio ( Rom version 2.13.9.23, Radio version 02.20.21.) Leakage about 75-80 mA for ALL radios.
5. TrueNeytral.v.1.4.MS- leakage remained about 75-80 mA for ALL radios.
Conclusion/Comments:
Leakage is probably NOT related to radio roms. Largest contributing factors to leakage I could find were backlight setting & battery mAh used, when Prophet in normal resting state. (Of course, running certain progies will drain battery rapidly.)
The smallest mAh value battery drains (in resting state) I've experienced in PPC/Phone, come from the test WM6 roms of Custel for Hermes.
One trick by mUn rom developer, is to turn off phone, turn phone back on, in Comm Manager, AFTER each GPRS session. It seems to work with mUn WM6 roms for Trinity & the drain is indeed less. However, this does not work for the Prophet WM6 roms I've tried so far.
Finally, beware of the higher leak values produced by High Capacity batteries. In effect, you get longer use time between charges, but the battery drain is disproportional to stock batteries. If you find a HC battery with same leak values as stock, grab it!
The latest WM6 rom I'm testing: TrueNeytral.v.1.4.MS

That's cool! very nice information. You're doing like the myth-busters do on Discovery Ch! I thought radio was an important thing cencerning to batt life!
THANKS BRO

DeviLduck said:
7 Radio roms tested: 2.07, 2.19, 2.20, 2.30, 2.47, 2.61, & 2.67. (Device-Imate JAMin, G3)
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where did you get the 2.67, and why no answer me if 2.69 is offical

paradis_pal said:
where did you get the 2.67, and why no answer me if 2.69 is offical
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Sorry about that, paradis_pal, a typo on my part. I used the 2.69, downloaded from prophet wiki. Thanks for pointing that out.

I use it 2.69 too but where it from, is it official from another prophet ROM, or edited from other phones

paradis_pal said:
I use it 2.69 too but where it from, is it official from another prophet ROM, or edited from other phones
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Looks like an official radio rom contained in the German T-Mobile release for MDA Vario product. The 2.69 version we're using must be a radio rom extract of this.
Also, the 3.08 radio mentioned in xda forums is from a T-Mobile UK product rom. However, there are so many problems with the 3.08 install on G3 or G4, I'd strongly advise against messing with that one. In addition, the download package is contaminated with a worm/virus according to Avast.
It's very likely, that the 2.47 radio is the best & most stable, in an overall sense. Many people are having problems with the 2.69, but it's hard to know how many of those are using WM6.
Versions:
Rom-Version: 3.8.2.2
Rom-Date: 11/10/06
Radio-Version: 02.69.11
Protcol-Version: 4.1.13.30
OS 5.1.461 (Build 15671.3.3.0)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1206215

Question:Why all Roms have a size of 2.257KB and Radio Rom 2.61.21 is 2.671KB???

tonydeli7 said:
Question:Why all Roms have a size of 2.257KB and Radio Rom 2.61.21 is 2.671KB???
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That's your download problem I guess. 'Cos the radio rom is actually 2.19 MB to 2.20 MB

tonydeli7 said:
Question:Why all Roms have a size of 2.257KB and Radio Rom 2.61.21 is 2.671KB???
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the exact size of the nb radio rom is 2621440 bytes = 2.5 MB, a little more bytes in the NBF file usualy 2622464
the defferent size becasue of the compression that is all, look at the uncomressed size

so what's the shipped radio at this moment? is 2.61? right?

PagePool Changing Questions

I understand how to change the pagepool and have got the tool to do so, but just a quick question, in V2 theres the options for tenths and hundreds, whats this for?
In the Schaps thread its been discussed that 32mb is the best PP for his ROM so i was just wondering what these other options are for?
Thanks for your help.

Thats to change the page pool by .1 MB and .01 of a MB. So you could do 25.55 MB PP.

page pool
how can i get page pool for my htc kaiser TyTN II

BUMP THAT said:
Thats to change the page pool by .1 MB and .01 of a MB. So you could do 25.55 MB PP.
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Thanks mate.

NEED HELP ASAP:my uni drains its battery fast..PLEASE HELP ME!

my uni drains its battery fast..
the battery wont last a day..
but when i put the battery on different uni that battery last long..
im using:
-Luca's 23016.5.3.0 vanilla version rom
-radio 1.18
sorry guys but i really dont know what to do..
thanks in advance for those who are willing to help!

rosscruz08 said:
my uni drains its battery fast..
the battery wont last a day..
but when i put the battery on different uni that battery last long..
im using:
-Luca's 23016.5.3.0 vanilla version rom
-radio 1.18
sorry guys but i really dont know what to do..
thanks in advance for those who are willing to help!
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Which Radio and Rom use the other Uni??? Any other Installed Software differences??

all the same
Which Radio and Rom use the other Uni??? Any other Installed Software differences??
-they have same
RADIO=1.18
ROM=luca's vanilla 23016.5.3.0
same applications and programs installed..
in short identical UNI..

Same here some time ago.
Solution: My RSS-feed-reader tried to connect every 5-10 minutes. Even the Uni was closed. So the batts were empty in about 1 day.
Maybe you have a programm like mine...

Chosen_One said:
Same here some time ago.
Solution: My RSS-feed-reader tried to connect every 5-10 minutes. Even the Uni was closed. So the batts were empty in about 1 day.
Maybe you have a programm like mine...
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thanks for your help CHOSEN_ONE....but the programs i have on my two uni were all stock or i should say pre-installed software from luca's rom...and i think none on its programs or software are draining my battery fast..it so happen that only on that specific uni it drains fast...but the other it last more than a day..

experimental solution
1. ive downgraded my radio from 1.18 to 1.11
2. configured activesync option for server connection..ive switched the connection manually under the schedule option..
as a result it somehow slows down the draining time..but it is still under observation..i will just post here my findings as soon as i get some good results..
thanks for all those who helped me out so far..

rosscruz08 said:
Which Radio and Rom use the other Uni??? Any other Installed Software differences??
-they have same
RADIO=1.18
ROM=luca's vanilla 23016.5.3.0
same applications and programs installed..
in short identical UNI..
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Radio definitely one important point for Battery, second is the band wide 3G/GPRS. Setting your uni to 3G will sure use more power. The age of the hardware (screen, and others) may also effect your power consumtion.. I dont remembr but here in this forum is a tool to check power consumtion per mA..you may look in to that

Bulldog said:
Radio definitely one important point for Battery, second is the band wide 3G/GPRS. Setting your uni to 3G will sure use more power. The age of the hardware (screen, and others) may also effect your power consumtion.. I dont remembr but here in this forum is a tool to check power consumtion per mA..you may look in to that
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thanks for your help sir..
im using 1.11 radio instead of 1.18 (experimental solution)
im also using the GSM band not the 3G/UMTS (not using 3G eversince)
the hardware version of my uni thats draining fast is G4..
i also have a G3 and another G4 which works fine with 1.18 radio..
if i do have a time i will search for that consumption per mA thing...

my uni is now working fine..
hey guys...thanks for all of your help...
my uni is now working fine..
my little experiment works....
1. ive downgraded my radio from 1.18 to 1.11
2. configured activesync option for server connection..ive switched the connection manually under the schedule option..

1.15 Radio

Heyy Guys
I've been using 1.15 radio for about 2 months
and have had a lot of battary failire problme, where it just freezes and stalls
Have already tired DOC Flash and Re-Flash of Radio
What should i do?
I have also considered moving basck to the: 1.18 radio
Soz for bad english

as i remember Tomal him self still using radio 115. have you try with clean rom, disable titanium, running only one or two program at the same time? wm 65 eat alot ram, so if you want to keep it you should manage you free memory well. if not ... that will make you uni stop running and need to reset. make much reset can make down battery performance for a bad quality battery.

I've tired both 1.15 and 1.18 with Tomal's V12
And i found that 1.18 radio had a better battary consumption.
So i might Change back to 1.18 this weekend

For me the best radio is 1.15 too

have u had any problems with ur uni crashing/ freezing / shutting down
all very random

No problems at all, I'm now with VnInt's WM6.1 rom and it's perfect

well i like radio 1.18 and used it for quite a long time currently using radio 1.10 and it's allright with my service provider. well didn't had any problem with any radio (1.15, 1.18 and 1.10). May be issue some software and ram isuue...

OK,
well then i might try 1.10 then 1.18

Also you can try 1.09 which is the original one it came for O2 Exec
It worked great for some time.
In fact try to test them all
Good luck,

Well, Orb
i might hold you to that over the christmas hols staring with:
1.09 !
Ill try for 3 days each a give a report on each radio.
After loading
Tomals V12 WM6.5
SPB Keyboard V4
HTC Addicts CleanRAM
Windows Market
Windows Live (MSN)
Bing / Google Maps
After that ill give a report on each radio
OF Battary level, Speed, ect ect

I think radio 1.17 is better.