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I just finish to download the new radio version for our devices. I can not tell you my impressions about the new radio version, but you can download in Wiki, placed on a folder.
couple of questions on the Radio ROM
1. It looks like it is a G4 Radio ROM. Will it work on the G3 version? If not, where can I find the latest Radio ROM for the G3 version?
2. Does it enable Blackberry Connect support on the Prophet by any chance?
Thanks.
Isn't this the Radio ROM from the Wizard? There is a topic in the Prophet part of the forum that discusses this..
I thought the latest original Radio version for the Prophet was 2.30.21.
I also tried the 2.47.11 on my Prophet. Reception was better, but battery life was drammatic
Wizard, Tornado, Prophet, Oxygen, Artemis, Excalibur:
all these models are based on pretty much same platform.
Latest Radio ( GSM firmaware) for these devices that I am aware of is:
GSM 2.67.90
Just thought that I will let you this know.
Yes I noticed that the reception is much better but at cost of the battery duration. Let me still making more tests about these new Radio.
my radio rom is 2.19.21 how and and how I would get the newst stable?q
The cost is very expensive, at least for me. Just one night, without calls, or touch the Prophet full charge and in the morning the batery meter is almost 26 % less !!!!!!!! Guauuuuu! is to much, you don't think so?
Let me still testing.
Yeah, I already tried this radio rom on my S200 and it drains a lot of batt. I don't recommend it to anyone...
I revert to the other radio rom that is floating around here, but I think that also drains a little more that the official ones....
so which radio rom version we/I should use? And where can I download?
I foud something is not right. When I like to turn the device on, (right button) to make a call phone or make a consult or whatever, the device is dead, so I have to make a soft reset. That's pass me very often, so I decide to revert to other radio version, I mean, to 02.30.21.
My impression about this Radio Version:
Pros: Better signal in all aspect.
Contra: Battery duration, inestable.
So, end of my private testing.
ok. this is something that I would like to check:
The standby mode power consumption is 21mA which it doesn't meet the spec.(but if pressing the key lock into
standby mode, the power consumption is 2.1mA.)
please keep your keypad locked at all the time and see if that will improve battery life.
I wish that I could explain better
this should be valid for all devices with this radio. not only for wizard.
Thanks.
SecureGSM said:
ok. this is something that I would like to check:
The standby mode power consumption is 21mA which it doesn't meet the spec.(but if pressing the key lock into
standby mode, the power consumption is 2.1mA.)
please keep your keypad locked at all the time and see if that will improve battery life.
I wish that I could explain better
this should be valid for all devices with this radio. not only for wizard.
Thanks.
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Hello,
I use a prophet whith an older radio 02.30.11.
Do you mean that when you lock the keyboard from the today plugin, the consumption is less?
I tried it today for the whole day and now I have 80% from 100% this morning which is very good! Is it because of the locking?
edit: BTW, how did you measure your consumption?
I tested this radio ROM long time ago when it was first posted here. But I changed back to 02.30.21 after one day.
It was a terrible experience, the device automatically reset during conversations very often. One day, I had to reset the prophet for more than 10 times!!!!!
So, I went back to 02.30.21 right away. And I also warned others not to install this radio ROM in this forum, too. I can not believe you guys are still so brave to take the risk.
@andrew_sh
Do you mean that when you lock the keyboard from the today plugin, the consumption is less?
Yes, that is correct. this bug present in 02.47.xx radio and is fixed in later radios.
I tried it today for the whole day and now I have 80% from 100% this morning which is very good! Is it because of the locking?
Good! I have same result on all my test devices.
edit: BTW, how did you measure your consumption?
I have not meassured it myself. Information in bold is per ... technical documentation
SecureGSM said:
Wizard, Tornado, Prophet, Oxygen, Artemis, Excalibur:
all these models are based on pretty much same platform.
Latest Radio ( GSM firmaware) for these devices that I am aware of is:
GSM 2.67.90
Just thought that I will let you this know.
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What about the 2.67.90 rom?
Has anyone installed it on a prophet?
Any results?
@andere_sh
2.67.90 is fine on Excalibur, Oxygen and Artemis..Really. much better than 2.47.xx
SecureGSM said:
@andere_sh
2.67.90 is fine on Excalibur, Oxygen and Artemis..Really. much better than 2.47.xx
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Can it be downloaded from somewhere ?
Cheers
hrb
I'm back to radio version 2.30.21 and everything going like a charm, fantastic.
were can I download for my prophet 2.30.21?Mine is still running:
2.19.21
You can find that Radio ROM on the FTP Or use the search...
hey
does it matter which version of IPL/SPL you have?
i noticed a lot of roms asks for ipl/spl 2.xxx, mine appears to have upgraded itself to 3.08 while i was trying out my home brewed roms!
could anybody shed any help on this?
thanx
3.08 is perfectly fine...
Just that most roms were cooked b4 3.08 came out. I'd be worried only if you had a 1.x IPL/SPL...
well it seems to be occasion to ask:
- can i flash ipl/spl without need of flashing system(xplore in ex.) again,
- does it really matter: i am using 2.xx now, is 3.xx better one?
- should i go back to wizard love to flash ipl/spl?
nothin said:
well it seems to be occasion to ask:
- can i flash ipl/spl without need of flashing system(xplore in ex.) again,
- does it really matter: i am using 2.xx now, is 3.xx better one?
- should i go back to wizard love to flash ipl/spl?
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1. Yes, you can flash IPL/SPL without reflashing the OS. Just look for an IPL/SPL-only ROM. REMEMBER TO NOTE WHETHER YOU HAVE A G3 OR G4.
2. If you're on 2.xx, flashing to 3.xx isn't really necessary. I did it myself and I only notice ~10-20% faster in boot time. Otherwise, I don't really notice a difference. Some people may beg to differ though.
3. Don't quite understand what you're asking here... I've never used it myself but Wizard Love is generally used if you have boot problems... Whenever you flash a new ROM, it is highly recommended that you first flash to T-mo 2.26 or your latest carrier ROM first. Don't really know why, but from the experiences of many members here, your will encounter less problems with your new ROM.
thanks for reply...
ok, last question so far:
- are these "problems" battery related?
i have strange random issues with my power management, regardless of any method i am trying to use... it was ok, after hr is not... no clear pattern.... ;/
duke_stix said:
hey
does it matter which version of IPL/SPL you have?
i noticed a lot of roms asks for ipl/spl 2.xxx, mine appears to have upgraded itself to 3.08 while i was trying out my home brewed roms!
could anybody shed any help on this?
thanx
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the only difference i can notice on 3.xx over 2.xx is the boot time...it is incredibly faster on 3.xx...
nothin said:
thanks for reply...
ok, last question so far:
- are these "problems" battery related?
i have strange random issues with my power management, regardless of any method i am trying to use... it was ok, after hr is not... no clear pattern.... ;/
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What is considered OK? What is considered not? What are you experiencing exactly? More info plz...
before i changed my ipl/spl to 3.08..
i was running ipl @ 1.01 and spl @ 2.something.. (cant remember)
so it doesn't really matter... i could do everything i wanted...
you know, i cant find reason of power drain i am experiencing; its unclear for me completely.
everything was ok, i started to make some registry changes, and i went too far, did HR, and after setting everything again i charged battery to max and then i noticed 240-290 mA drain, cpu temp was 32-33 degrees ! softresets didnt help, so it may be some kind of internal counter, that do not reset, and machine thinks, that battery "is not" charged to max, despite showing 100%...and its discharging as mad...
now i am trying to discharge battery almost to the max and charge it again... i will see whats happen... everything was ok before HR, only tweak i used related to power was htc power management tweak... now, after HR it didnt help... i have 34 mA drain after turning machine on, but in few secs its 240-290 again... not 120, not 140, 240-290... with wifi, irda, and bt turned off..
also, machine is discharging when turned off, i mean fast power loss, noticeable faster, than usual...
i hope, that method with charging it to the max and charging again will help...
its so damn annoying..
machine was flashed with 100% battery charge, btw..
sorry for LQ english..
furian said:
before i changed my ipl/spl to 3.08..
i was running ipl @ 1.01 and spl @ 2.something.. (cant remember)
so it doesn't really matter... i could do everything i wanted...
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Numerous people have had a number of issues trying to run WM6 when the IPL or SPL was 1.xx. It DOES make a difference. The fact that it worked for you meant you were either lucky, or not seeing some of the issues (the entire rom wasn't broken, but certain features didn't work, or didn't work correctly). Go read the early WM6 threads and some of the major complaints on those roms were fixed when the phone was re-flashed so that the IPL and SPL were both 2.xx. The same issue tended to show up again when others had an IPL or SPL of 1.xx (so it was reproducible).
Hello guys.I thought that,it would be nice to have a poll,about radio roms.Please choose your Radio Rom,and tell if you had problems with the other ones...
2.69.21 is the best radio rom so far... 2.21.xx or lower was good... but anyting between 2.21.xx and 2.69.21 did not work fine on my Qtek S200 G3... with those roms, I got "phone not ready" problem
I didn't notice any differences beween radio roms
so I left 2.47 - the last radio shipped for prophet
the last Radio shipped 2.61
I';m using now 2.69 it it offical? please some one answer where did you get it
I had some broadcast problems in 2.69 but it was from the net work casue I go back to 2.61 and still have them
the problems I didn't recieve any messages from the channels
2.69 is good one as I'm recieving broadcast
Prophet Radio roms & battery leakage WM6 rom--TEST
7 Radio roms tested: 2.07, 2.19, 2.20, 2.30, 2.47, 2.61, & 2.69. (Device-Imate JAMin, G3)
WM6 roms used: PDAviet.v.4.0003, TrueNeytral.v.1.4 (Widcomm bluetooth stack+camera4), & TrueNeytral.v.1.4.MS (Microsoft Bluetooth stack, without camera4)
WM5 rom used: I-Mate last official WWE release.
Protocol: Same setup for every test. After each flash to new radio, ck to verify correct ver installed, 1 more soft reset, in comm manager verify speaker & phone the only ones turned on, others with X, no running phone or connection as shown by icon on top screen. Screen backlight set on 2nd mark from left. (lowest setting with light)
Used latest BatteryStatus Ext.v.1.04 beta3 release.
Results:
1. PDAviet- leakage remained about 87-92 mA for ALL radios.
2. TrueNeytral.v.1.4- leakage remained about 127-132 mA for ALL radios.
3. The above tests used the standard 1200 mAh battery (batteries used charged no less that 85%). Using High Capacity battery, 1800 mAh, all values were increased at least 50-70 mA, sometimes 120 mA or more! (Battery change protocol same for all, unit turned OFF by long press method. After battery switch, 2 soft resets before testing.)
4. Control- last Imate WM5 rom & radio ( Rom version 2.13.9.23, Radio version 02.20.21.) Leakage about 75-80 mA for ALL radios.
5. TrueNeytral.v.1.4.MS- leakage remained about 75-80 mA for ALL radios.
Conclusion/Comments:
Leakage is probably NOT related to radio roms. Largest contributing factors to leakage I could find were backlight setting & battery mAh used, when Prophet in normal resting state. (Of course, running certain progies will drain battery rapidly.)
The smallest mAh value battery drains (in resting state) I've experienced in PPC/Phone, come from the test WM6 roms of Custel for Hermes.
One trick by mUn rom developer, is to turn off phone, turn phone back on, in Comm Manager, AFTER each GPRS session. It seems to work with mUn WM6 roms for Trinity & the drain is indeed less. However, this does not work for the Prophet WM6 roms I've tried so far.
Finally, beware of the higher leak values produced by High Capacity batteries. In effect, you get longer use time between charges, but the battery drain is disproportional to stock batteries. If you find a HC battery with same leak values as stock, grab it!
The latest WM6 rom I'm testing: TrueNeytral.v.1.4.MS
That's cool! very nice information. You're doing like the myth-busters do on Discovery Ch! I thought radio was an important thing cencerning to batt life!
THANKS BRO
DeviLduck said:
7 Radio roms tested: 2.07, 2.19, 2.20, 2.30, 2.47, 2.61, & 2.67. (Device-Imate JAMin, G3)
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where did you get the 2.67, and why no answer me if 2.69 is offical
paradis_pal said:
where did you get the 2.67, and why no answer me if 2.69 is offical
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Sorry about that, paradis_pal, a typo on my part. I used the 2.69, downloaded from prophet wiki. Thanks for pointing that out.
I use it 2.69 too but where it from, is it official from another prophet ROM, or edited from other phones
paradis_pal said:
I use it 2.69 too but where it from, is it official from another prophet ROM, or edited from other phones
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Looks like an official radio rom contained in the German T-Mobile release for MDA Vario product. The 2.69 version we're using must be a radio rom extract of this.
Also, the 3.08 radio mentioned in xda forums is from a T-Mobile UK product rom. However, there are so many problems with the 3.08 install on G3 or G4, I'd strongly advise against messing with that one. In addition, the download package is contaminated with a worm/virus according to Avast.
It's very likely, that the 2.47 radio is the best & most stable, in an overall sense. Many people are having problems with the 2.69, but it's hard to know how many of those are using WM6.
Versions:
Rom-Version: 3.8.2.2
Rom-Date: 11/10/06
Radio-Version: 02.69.11
Protcol-Version: 4.1.13.30
OS 5.1.461 (Build 15671.3.3.0)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1206215
Question:Why all Roms have a size of 2.257KB and Radio Rom 2.61.21 is 2.671KB???
tonydeli7 said:
Question:Why all Roms have a size of 2.257KB and Radio Rom 2.61.21 is 2.671KB???
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That's your download problem I guess. 'Cos the radio rom is actually 2.19 MB to 2.20 MB
tonydeli7 said:
Question:Why all Roms have a size of 2.257KB and Radio Rom 2.61.21 is 2.671KB???
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the exact size of the nb radio rom is 2621440 bytes = 2.5 MB, a little more bytes in the NBF file usualy 2622464
the defferent size becasue of the compression that is all, look at the uncomressed size
so what's the shipped radio at this moment? is 2.61? right?
my uni drains its battery fast..
the battery wont last a day..
but when i put the battery on different uni that battery last long..
im using:
-Luca's 23016.5.3.0 vanilla version rom
-radio 1.18
sorry guys but i really dont know what to do..
thanks in advance for those who are willing to help!
rosscruz08 said:
my uni drains its battery fast..
the battery wont last a day..
but when i put the battery on different uni that battery last long..
im using:
-Luca's 23016.5.3.0 vanilla version rom
-radio 1.18
sorry guys but i really dont know what to do..
thanks in advance for those who are willing to help!
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Which Radio and Rom use the other Uni??? Any other Installed Software differences??
all the same
Which Radio and Rom use the other Uni??? Any other Installed Software differences??
-they have same
RADIO=1.18
ROM=luca's vanilla 23016.5.3.0
same applications and programs installed..
in short identical UNI..
Same here some time ago.
Solution: My RSS-feed-reader tried to connect every 5-10 minutes. Even the Uni was closed. So the batts were empty in about 1 day.
Maybe you have a programm like mine...
Chosen_One said:
Same here some time ago.
Solution: My RSS-feed-reader tried to connect every 5-10 minutes. Even the Uni was closed. So the batts were empty in about 1 day.
Maybe you have a programm like mine...
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thanks for your help CHOSEN_ONE....but the programs i have on my two uni were all stock or i should say pre-installed software from luca's rom...and i think none on its programs or software are draining my battery fast..it so happen that only on that specific uni it drains fast...but the other it last more than a day..
experimental solution
1. ive downgraded my radio from 1.18 to 1.11
2. configured activesync option for server connection..ive switched the connection manually under the schedule option..
as a result it somehow slows down the draining time..but it is still under observation..i will just post here my findings as soon as i get some good results..
thanks for all those who helped me out so far..
rosscruz08 said:
Which Radio and Rom use the other Uni??? Any other Installed Software differences??
-they have same
RADIO=1.18
ROM=luca's vanilla 23016.5.3.0
same applications and programs installed..
in short identical UNI..
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Radio definitely one important point for Battery, second is the band wide 3G/GPRS. Setting your uni to 3G will sure use more power. The age of the hardware (screen, and others) may also effect your power consumtion.. I dont remembr but here in this forum is a tool to check power consumtion per mA..you may look in to that
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Radio definitely one important point for Battery, second is the band wide 3G/GPRS. Setting your uni to 3G will sure use more power. The age of the hardware (screen, and others) may also effect your power consumtion.. I dont remembr but here in this forum is a tool to check power consumtion per mA..you may look in to that
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thanks for your help sir..
im using 1.11 radio instead of 1.18 (experimental solution)
im also using the GSM band not the 3G/UMTS (not using 3G eversince)
the hardware version of my uni thats draining fast is G4..
i also have a G3 and another G4 which works fine with 1.18 radio..
if i do have a time i will search for that consumption per mA thing...
my uni is now working fine..
hey guys...thanks for all of your help...
my uni is now working fine..
my little experiment works....
1. ive downgraded my radio from 1.18 to 1.11
2. configured activesync option for server connection..ive switched the connection manually under the schedule option..
after several days of testing have I come to the conclusion that radio 2.06.50.04 is "slow", at least for my region/provider (/DENMARK/TDC)
"symptoms"
- when phone comes from lock screen, unresponsive for one or 2 seconds.
- activesync/sms sending delays, when pressing send
- spontaneous connection lost, especially in bad reception areas
- comm manager turning "phone" off, all by itself.
my stock Leo was delivered with 2.05 no problem. upgrade to 2.06 resulted in connection problems which manifested in some of the above symptoms. upgraded to 2.07 a few days later, and problems disappeared. didn't give it much more thought.
when the "576MB RAM tweak" appeared, I changed ROM and downgraded to 2.06 of course . problems arose again. At first I thought it was the ROM, so I tried 3 different 576enabled ROMs. Also I travelled to several locations, locations where I knew there should be optimal reception. After 3 days of testing with 2.06, changed back to 2.07 on same cooked ROM, and everything fine (besides having less memory)
Just so you know why your new ROM can appear "slow", and it most likely is not the ROM As said, I'm pretty sure about my case, but hope others can confirm/deny.
- when phone comes from lock screen, unresponsive for one or 2 seconds.
- activesync/sms sending delays, when pressing send
- spontaneous connection lost, especially in bad reception areas
I experience the exact same issues.. Allthough i haven't seen my comm mananger turn the phone off by it self (yet!)
I also have an issue with poor performance when writing sms after i applied the 1.66 update i do however not suspect the new radio to have anything to do with that.
There is another 2.06 version 2.06.50.23 did you try that one? I think that might keep the 576 RAM.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/m3jdozjjomd/Radio_2.07.50.27_2.zip
last american radio
576 enable
axl30 said:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/m3jdozjjomd/Radio_2.07.50.27_2.zip
last american radio
576 enable
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Interesting... will try it out...
it could be that you need to use the corresponding rilphone, but all radios work differently in different parts of the world..
You are trying to use one from a leaked beta rom, not surprising if it has some issues..
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http://www.mediafire.com/file/m3jdozjjomd/Radio_2.07.50.27_2.zip
last american radio
576 enable
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will try that one, tnx for sharing!!
I got the German Stock 1,66 ROM from the Official HTC Page.
Noticed same problems with this Radio.
But i'm new in the Radio Area can i flash it to another Radio version without Hardreset my phone? and which version would be the best without hurting my device software?
i suffered similar problems with 2065004, since i installed 2065023 all problems have gone and battery consumption is great. i believe that the 23 is simply the improved version since it also gives the extra ram. it might even be possible that the radio's are different braches like the roms,(ie. 205 series, 206 series, 207 series) since only the 206 will give the extra ram.
vodafone netherlands
Use the new 2.07 radio here then (2.07.50.27_2) it still has the extra RAM
"downgraded" from 2.07.51.05_02 to the prososed one 2.07.50.27_2
can confirm 576MB tweak working with this version
will test tomorrow on several locations and test if this radio is more stable than 2.06.50.04 (which also has confirmed 576MB working).
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Use the new 2.07 radio here then (2.07.50.27_2) it still has the extra RAM
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and there would be no problems if i flash it von the 1.66 Stock GermanROM?
I'm bored of reinstalling all software etc. on my device ^^
For hidden RAM etc. i wait while the cookers finish all there ROM's , also WM 6.5.3 gets official upgrade i read
I update to Radio_2.07.50.27_2 and seem a little bit fast(is it because 576 ram?!)and the reception looks not very good
Cna you update the radio rom without flashing the main device? (I.E not loosing all of my data and keep the 1.48 rom but with updated radio?)
You can without losing the data.
which language is it?
the radio would not change my german?
what about this radio from here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **???? )
romskii said:
which language is it?
the radio would not change my german?
what about this radio from here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
Leo_RADIO_15.31.50.07U_2.07.51.05 **(from HTC **???? )
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Does not support the 576 ram.
after another day of testing, driving, testing etc...
2.07.50.27_2 is best (for me ) supports 576MB and stable connection
2.07.51.05_02 also stable but no 576MB support
2.06.50.04 576MB support, but not stable for my region/provider.
after another day of testing, driving, testing etc...
2.07.50.27_2 is best (for me ) supports 576MB and stable connection
2.07.51.05_02 also stable but no 576MB support
2.06.50.04 576MB support, but not stable for my region/provider.
hope this helps people who before were "struggling" with what they thought were "slow" ROMs