Oh at this time of fun and joy, how little i'm having
It all started a few weeks ago when I had to dump my Yahoo mail account as I was getting way too much junk mail - my poor Homer Simpson "The mail is here... woooohoooo" was seriously overworked!
So off I Googled and after a few hours found Inbox.Com. Awesome! 5 gig free and pop access.. yay! So I set it all up on Outlook on my PC and it rocked. Great!
Now time to setup on my TyTN. So I plugged all the details into the standard Smartmobile client and encountered my first problem. Aparently, and I ain't too hot on this stuff, Inbox.com does something odd with the content also being part of the subject? Anyways, this stopped the Smartmobile software downloading any messages, all it would do is tell me there are x number of mails present
So I tried a few more 3rd party apps and finaly came across Flexmail. This *at first* rocked! It downloaded emails and replaced the standard "Today screen" menu option and seemed to work great. A well rounded bit of software.
Then this morning, my second day of using flexmail, I woke up and noticed no new emails. Fired up my laptop (Outlook) and checked - oh look 2 new mails
After some experimentation, it appears that Flexmail does not autoconnect (a least reliably - unlike the standard MS client which does but don't download) and just ignores some email messages! (Unable to find out why/common factor)
So, I'm now after a reliable, well rounded and polished, SMS(?) and Email client for my TyTN. It must autoconnect every x mins, use system address book/contacts and above all, be reliable and not ignore messages! It must also run "invisibly" for want of a better way of describing it and not need me to constantly start it up etc.
I have tried nPOP and QMail, neither of which seem "nice n pretty" enough for me.
I am happy to pay for a client, as long as I can get a demo/trial first and i'm not too bothered about cost either.
I beg you, please point me in the right direction and I will be forever in your debt!
Very many thanks in advance and a have a tip top holiday period!
edit: Ps No matter what I try I also can't get flexmail to play my "The mail is here ...." even though its programmed in Sounds And Notifications/Flexmail.
Profimail?
Hi,
somebody has experience with Profimail? On a Czech PDA-forum people were quite enthousiastic about it. http://www.lonelycatgames.com/index.php?note=profimail&chapter=profimail
wpmulder said:
Hi,
somebody has experience with Profimail? On a Czech PDA-forum people were quite enthousiastic about it. http://www.lonelycatgames.com/index.php?note=profimail&chapter=profimail
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1. welcome to XDA-Dev
2. while ProfiMail is stable, I'd choose something else. There are MUCH better mailer clients: Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
If you're not too bothered about cost, then why not use Gmail, and forward that to a free live.mail2web.com account.
The only cost will be data on your phone plan, but it means you get true push mail, so you don't have to check every x minutes, it just notifies you when you get new mail like a blackberry, and all of this with pocket outlook.
Also means all of your contacts and calendar are backed up online too.
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..... Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
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Hi
We are both coming from a diferent forum looking for the same answer We've both used QMail - which seems complicated and ugly - and Flexmail, nice looking but, well "misses" emails and won't autoconnect, despite the options.
Will however check out your link, thanks!
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If you're not too bothered about cost, then why not use Gmail, and forward that to a free live.mail2web.com account.
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'coz this aint a "inbox.com" issue. Its rubbish clients on the smartphones. Yahoo was brilliant but got blitzed with junk mail, although it did take 7 years to reach too bad a level for me
Why is it so dificult to get a "good" client on smartphones?
p.s. I don't want to have to change x gazilion email subscriptions/forums addresses again. Specialy when its not the email servers fault.
Menneisyys said:
... There are MUCH better mailer clients: Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
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Having now checked out that link i'm none too impressed. All they seem to say is that Flexmail is the best out there and well, if thats the best then the market has a big hole in it.
Flexmail DOES have a lot on pluses however, its simple lack of ability to reliably connect (no, this is not a signal thing etc) and it's just plain ignorance of playing my "The mail is here..." tune combined with it not listing all my mails, sucks.
I'd like to think i'm doing something wrong, maybe I am, but I can get pocket outlook to connect everytime (just not download) and I can get the other mail clients (including pocket outlook) to play the tune....
This really does reinforce to me that Smartmobile is lacking and wanting in a market where it pushes convergence as its major "daddy".
P.s I downloaded the client from the publishers website about 3 maybe 4 days ago so it shouldn't be a version issue. But then, why should I need a 3rd party app to do what Outlook desktop will do anyway!?!?!?
Again, why mess about with trying to pull email at set intervals which you know is buggy, when you can use push mail?
Simply forward your existing email account to your mail2web account.
I don't see the issue here.
ProfiMail
Menneisyys said:
1. welcome to XDA-Dev
2. while ProfiMail is stable, I'd choose something else. There are MUCH better mailer clients: Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
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I can't agree with this (too) negative statement. In your blog, you have tested Version 2.37. It's 2.60 now !
I had (before finding ProfiMail) Qmail, Flexmail2007 (on my StrTrk and my 2 PDA's). BIG problems e.g. with IMAP, BIG footprint.
Overall, ProfiMail is now my definite first choice (speed, ease of use, auto update, configuration possibilities, etc.) on my smartphone and PDA's.
Therefore, I can really recommend ProfiMail, despite the expert's statements.
Cheers
hrb
ProfiMail
Menneisyys said:
1. welcome to XDA-Dev
2. while ProfiMail is stable, I'd choose something else. There are MUCH better mailer clients: Qmail and FlexMail 2007. They are MUCH better. Please do read the Mailer Bible at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more in-depth info.
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I can't agree with this (too) negative statement. In your blog, you mention that you have tested Version 2.37. It's 2.60 now !
I had (before finding ProfiMail) Qmail, Flexmail2007 (on my StrTrk and my 2 PDA's). BIG problems e.g. with IMAP, BIG footprint.
Overall, ProfiMail is now my definite first choice (speed, ease of use, auto update, configuration possibilities, etc.) on my smartphone and PDA's.
Therefore, I can really recommend ProfiMail, despite the expert's statements.
Cheers
hrb
Profimail.
Downloaded and installed. Won't recognise any screen taps of any sort on my TyTN. All input has to be done by keyboard and onscreen keyboard. Oh and some screens don't have a "back" or "finish" option meaning that I have to kill the program from the memory applet and start again - avoiding the offending screen for the rest of my life.
Thanks for the recommendation but my verdict "Rubbish".
So, I stand by my previous post, anyone know a GOOD pop client for smartphones?
AlanJC said:
Again, why mess about with trying to pull email at set intervals which you know is buggy, when you can use push mail?
Simply forward your existing email account to your mail2web account.
I don't see the issue here.
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'coz I have to sign in to it using a browser or wap session? Unless there is an option I can't see
I want the mail transfer to be out of my hands, I just want to be alerted when there is new mail (15 minutes delay is perfectly adequate for me) and it to be in my "inbox" rather than have to go and check a webpage. If wanted to check a webpage, why would I use Mail2Web as Inbox.com has a web interface already?
I would like to say that I do appreciate everyones input, maybe we will come across the perfect client for me (and others) if we keep plugging away.
Thankyou to all!!
Merry Christmas All!!
You know... I have just recently entered the world of push email and I have to say it's pretty awesome to get my email on my 8525 after only a few seconds.
I had the hardest time getting email to work reliably for me as well. I had the XDA IIs for 2 years and tried Flexmail, Profimail, npop, pocket outlook and none of them would just work reliably.
After much research on this whole push email thing I found mail2web live (based on recommendations from various sources, including this one). All I did was sign up for a mail2web live account and created an email address with them. From there I just set up my gmail account to forward all incoming emails to my mail2web account. And it worked. I have a second gmail account forwarded to them as well... and now I get them both in real time on my phone. Also... the days of email disappearing in pocket outlook are gone thanks to this system.
Here is the link to sign up for mail2webs live service with push email:
https://services.mail2web.com/signup/mail2weblive/mail2webLive_01.asp
I went into active sync and set up the server details to create a push email system. Now I use pocket outlook for my email and I get my notifications when email come in just like I do with SMS.
Server settins for activesync on your pocket pc:
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Activesync > Menu > Configure Server...
Server address: mobile.exchange.mail2web.com
Check the SSL box for encryption.
Username: [email protected]
Password: yourpassword
Domain: ad2
Check save password.
I would go to advanced settings and change it to "Keep the item on your device" as well that way you don't lose anything while syncronizing your information.
The only problems that people have been mentioning are mail2web's lack of free aliasing of your email address. So any email you straight respond to will show up as coming from mail2web.com. I have tried changing gmails settings for this and also activesync's option for your email address, but mail2web still overrides this.
Searching for a solution I have found port88.org. I have signed up for an account based on feedback I have read and anticipate that I will have my account set up with them soon (the main advantage I can see is that they offer the aliasing that I would need). I have not actually used their service as of yet, but I am eager to.
Here is the discussion on port88.org here on xda-developers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-273878.html
Here is the link to the port88.org sign up page:
http://www.port88.org/signup.php
Hope this helps people out. I know one thing... I will NOT go back to pulling email... not after I have experienced this push email thing Finally my pocket pc has reliable email... just as reliable as my SMS now.
Message me if you have any questions.
Mark
Hi Caswell,
thanks very much for the detailed response but sadly I have now learn't I cannot use this method. I can only have one Exchange "server". This phone also sync's with my laptop which is also connected to my office Outlook/Exchange server.
Do I understand this right?
inbox.com news
Hi,
I do not know if you got any further with your search - but maybe it will be soon possible to normally use the WM5 mail-client (or any other one) with our inbox.com mail-account. I saw this announcement recently on the inbox.com that they will anyble access from mobile devies - see attached screenshot.
Peter
does anyone have a msn messenger for wm6 that works with GPRS, because live messenger always syncs contacts with contact list and if my friends want to sign on their contacts will get joined with mine, which i dont want. Also if it would be able to work with T-mobile US GPRS without having to pay for a plan like Pocket MSN did with WM6 that would be great.
Have you tried Windows Live Messenger ? It works with all your MSN contacts in WM6. It is available in Faria's real thing WM6 ROM, amongst others.
I'm not sure what you mean about the contacts, but the newer version of windows live messenger gives you the option to merge contacts with outlook or not to if you don't want it to do that. I use it just fine on the $5.99 t-zones plan, weather or not you can still get free internet without any data plan I am not sure of but that's something that had the same limitations as t-zones and it's not something to rely on always being there
use im+. Hope this helps
LiQuiD FrEeZe said:
use im+. Hope this helps
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But IM+ does not reconnect after a telefoncall. and for me it is the same windows live is too beig. SO what els?
Octrotalk is subdirectet through googletalk. but reconnects and even has autologin - by time.
it can reconnect after a phone call just change the setings make it reconnect like 99 times
LiQuiD FrEeZe said:
use im+. Hope this helps
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Dude this is not a warez site....IM+ is an commercially available messenger program....you cant post that here unless its an trial version without pre-patched\cracked.
ANTC said:
it can reconnect after a phone call just change the setings make it reconnect like 99 times
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where can i set it?
thx. just didn´t use it much.
No i mean, when i sign into windows live messenger it says i ave to sync my countacts with my messenger contacts. Thats why i want one without that. Pocket MSN on WM5 did not force you to sync contacts, and worked without a T-mobile data plan, as does OZ IM. is there something like that for WM6, or maybe even just the whole pocket MSN for wm6.
I used Agile but it was only the trial and no matter what, it wouldn't let me continue. I really liked the IM program from WM5 and I was looking to see if someone had the cab file of it. Thanks
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Agile and IM+ are a no go
What IM program from WM5 do you mean? MSN messenger? There are no any built-in IM program for ICQ in WM5 at all.
If you need free icq client try Prelude 0.5.5, it work fine.
Well there is the built in one that gives you the option of using AIM, YAHOO and ICQ and I am mostly interested in the AIM part of it, but I was seeing if there was a cab of that actual built in application that I can load onto wm6
have u test FRING?
http://www.fring.com
look a great app.
maxima00se said:
I used Agile but it was only the trial and no matter what, it wouldn't let me continue. I really liked the IM program from WM5 and I was looking to see if someone had the cab file of it. Thanks
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I've just made this cab from a WM5 ROM. I don't have the time to test it right now. Looking forward to your comments...
http://rapidshare.com/files/54734920/PocketMSN_WM5_by_NiTroGen.cab
I get an Installation was unsuccessful error right away.
I've just installed it successfully. No installation errors at all. But when I try to sign-in to MSN Messenger, I get "Sign-in to MSN Messenger Service is not responding. Try again later.". Windows Live Mobile Messenger is able to connect without any problem. So, there must be something missing from the cab. Any ideas???
I'm still looking for a suitable program that runs aol instant messenger. All the other ones I have tried are trials and will not run on my phone anymore. Can anybody upload the WM5 instant messenger app?
give Palringo a shot.
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I've just made this cab from a WM5 ROM. I don't have the time to test it right now. Looking forward to your comments...
http://rapidshare.com/files/54734920/PocketMSN_WM5_by_NiTroGen.cab
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It doesn't start on my WM6.0
I'm looking for PocketMSN_WM5 too cuz Pocket Live messenger on WM6 sucks.
I counted 19 steps to change from one profile to another.
New working cab here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2126171#post2126171
I am very new to the whole Palm thing but not to the computer thing. Anyway... I have had a regular cell phone for years of course but I really wanted to get my msn mail on my phone and also have a date book ect. So I got the crackberry but the only way I could get the MSN mail was to sign in to the web and go about it that way. What I was looking for was for the phone to just tell me I had a new message. I do have the paid version of MSN so I am able to check it through outlook on my laptop. Anyway... Thanks you do guys I have been able to at least get Microsoft Live onto my Trio 750 and as soon as I got it I upgraded to Windows Mobile 6.0 (thinking that might have been a mistake now). How in the world do I import all of my Outlook Express contacts from my laptop to this damn phone. Also is there anyway I can set-up outlook on the phone to check my various accounts (msn, Verizon, work)? Please please help and again I am sorry I am sure this is a neeewbe question.
Thanks again,
Glenn
Im not sure if you have already done this, but did you install and set up activesync. Activesync is a program that interfaces your treo with your laptop and there is also an option in activesync to save your contacts from outlook to you treo. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/activesync45.mspx Go there to download activesync 4.5, it is the latest one. Make sure you scroll towards the bottom of the page and click on the link that says "Worldwide English" Hope this answers you question.
Hi all
Its been a while since i have been here ( as i switched to the iphone), while i think the phone is really cool, i miss some of the features of windows mobile ( calender, and productivity functions), i have got used to having my emails with me.
My question is can you do push email on windows mobile and if so how do i go getting more info on this (i tired to search but could not find what i was looking for). on thing i can do on my iphone is get all my work email forwarded to a gmail account this is then shown on my phone, but when i send a reply i shows the address as my orginal work email address, can this be done on windows mobile.
any help would be great as i want to get a tytn II.
cheers guys
Neel
no one knows
I sure if you do some searching on this site you will surely find what you are looking for.
ummm, push email functionality has been available since windows mobile 5.0... talk to your IT guys if you want your work email sent to a windows mobile phone, pretty much all of them have push capability, slower than black berries but still gets the job done MUCH better than polling...
if you're interested in it, theres a java based program called funambol that is/was open source and is still in development i think, not sure... if you run your computer and have experience with ftp file programs and such with a dedicated broadband internet service (nowadays what internet forum user doesn't) this would be a good solution for you... you'll download all your stuff to your own computer, OTA contacts and PIM sync without having to have an enterprise server
it works very well at this point, but i believe its still open source on some platforms, give it a try
http://funambol.com/solutions/devices_htc.php
more specifically, you want myfunambol, the free personal service, here is the link for that
http://my.funambol.com/c/portal/layout?p_l_id=PUB.1001.1
May be this can help : http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/05/29/push-gmail-for-pocketpc-smartphones.html