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Borked Backup by ROM change?

Chaps,
A little while ago I changed my splash screen using the HardSPL/SplashTool/CustomRUU but now my Vario III has developed a fault and needs to be sent back for replacement/repair. Thinking it best to restore the original ROM, I located the UK TMobile ROM from elsewhere on this forum, backed up my data using Sprite backup and performed the necessary reflash
As I still want to use my Vario III until I hand it back, I tried to restore my backup to the phone. However, I'm getting a ROM mismatch error from the sprite software and advises that is couldnt recover CEMAIL.VOL or PIM.VOL either :S
Also, now when I select 'Contacts' from the main screen - I get the following error: "Shortcut Target - Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename" plus now I only get the "Sim Contacts" when using the 'contacts' option from the start menu, when I should see 2 icons.
From what I remember when I performed the reflash today, it said that the version numbers matched. I can't think whats causing this
Please could anyone help me out here?
Cheers
CP

CPhoenix said:
Chaps,
A little while ago I changed my splash screen using the HardSPL/SplashTool/CustomRUU but now my Vario III has developed a fault and needs to be sent back for replacement/repair. Thinking it best to restore the original ROM, I located the UK TMobile ROM from elsewhere on this forum, backed up my data using Sprite backup and performed the necessary reflash
As I still want to use my Vario III until I hand it back, I tried to restore my backup to the phone. However, I'm getting a ROM mismatch error from the sprite software and advises that is couldnt recover CEMAIL.VOL or PIM.VOL either :S
Also, now when I select 'Contacts' from the main screen - I get the following error: "Shortcut Target - Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename" plus now I only get the "Sim Contacts" when using the 'contacts' option from the start menu, when I should see 2 icons.
From what I remember when I performed the reflash today, it said that the version numbers matched. I can't think whats causing this
Please could anyone help me out here?
Cheers
CP
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It won't work because it's a different rom!
Imagine taking an image of windows 2000 and using it to restore a vista machine (just an example) ... it just won't work.
You basically have to start from scratch.

I hadn't modified my ROM apart from the splash screen, plus when I performed the reflash I was told the two ROM versions were the same ?
Also since reflashing with the TMobile ROM from this site - I dont seem to have half of the stuff in the "organiser" folder i.e. Calendar plus I swear that bubblet (or whatever) came as standard on WM6. I could be wrong about that though.

CPhoenix said:
I hadn't modified my ROM apart from the splash screen, plus when I performed the reflash I was told the two ROM versions were the same ?
Also since reflashing with the TMobile ROM from this site - I dont seem to have half of the stuff in the "organiser" folder i.e. Calendar plus I swear that bubblet (or whatever) came as standard on WM6. I could be wrong about that though.
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The ROMs aren't the same!

How to load all programs after hard reset?

Hello!
I will receive my Polaris in a couple of days And I will probably load some new programs into it.
My question is: after a hard reset it will be back to factory settings right?
How do you load the new programs again?
Do you load them one by one, or is there a kind of backupprogram that will load all the programs for you?
Thank you.
And this is a excellent forum

jacob12 said:
Hello!
I will receive my Polaris in a couple of days And I will probably load some new programs into it.
My question is: after a hard reset it will be back to factory settings right?
How do you load the new programs again?
Do you load them one by one, or is there a kind of backupprogram that will load all the programs for you?
Thank you.
And this is a excellent forum
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Of course you can use a backup program. The best are SPB Backup & Sprite Backup.

There are some backup programs, but they only store the contact/mail/calendar data... I'm not sure if there is any that backups the programs... the best way is to install everything on the memory card, and backup the shortcut files on the memory card. After the HR you only have to copy those back in the StartMenu folder
Som program dont work whithout registry entries or other installed components, so these won't work whith the method above.
The Activesync, and the Device Center has a list of installed/installable apps that will install those on user request (mass install), but that will still intall them 1 by 1....

jacob12 said:
Hello!
I will receive my Polaris in a couple of days And I will probably load some new programs into it.
My question is: after a hard reset it will be back to factory settings right?
How do you load the new programs again?
Do you load them one by one, or is there a kind of backupprogram that will load all the programs for you?
Thank you.
And this is a excellent forum
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If you're getting a sim free polaris, then, it comes with a free HTC back up software and a complimentary Sprite Back up software. You can use either of them. Install either one of them on the main memory but make sure you put your back up on your storage card.
Side note: Load APPLICATION software one at a time and observed the behaviour of your device for a day or so. If it's working according to your expectations then make a back up and install another one.

Thanks guys
And my Polaris comes sim free so hopefully the software I need is included in the package.

jacob12 said:
Thanks guys
And my Polaris comes sim free so hopefully the software I need is included in the package.
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There have been complaints about the (old) version of Sprite Backup that is included in the CD of Polaris. I would suggest to install the latest version of Sprite Backup or SPB Backup.

The HTC backup tool is Sprite Backup 5.10 (P3650_BackupTool_5.1.0.b1450_HTC_WWE_20071102.exe)
And the included 'SpriteBackupEnglishPersonalSetup.exe' is the same as the HTC one, but it installs a PC suite aswell.

Backup file cooked into ROM as OEM package?

Is there a way to turn a backup file into an OEM package that is automatically set up as part of the ROM?
For example, say I cook my own ROM that has nothing at all. I then install all my apps, enter all my serials and registration info into all the apps, get my WiFi set up with all my WEP keys, all my favorites, all that kind of stuff. Then I make a backup using some backup program.
Can I then take that backup file and cook it into the naked ROM so that all of my serials, settings, etc are all set up after every hard reset?
I know I could just put it on the storage card and restore after every hard reset, but I would rather have it cooked right into the ROM if this is possible.
If this is possible, what would be a good backup program to make the backup file with?
i was thinking that when the device is doing the customization or whatever you call it after the hard reset, it could be restoring from the backup file.
Has anyone done anything like this yet?

Even I am wishing that there is such a way.... You put in words what many of us noobs wish for.

I'm sure there is a way to do it. Hopefully someone will help us out.
I am by no means an expert, but I would guess you need to somehow cook the backup file into the ROM, and then edit the autoexec.bat file to run that backup file.
So what we really need to know is, which backup program makes the best backups, that restore without any user input. Something that all you do is tap it and it does the rest from there. And it would need to restore all installed apps, all settings, all internet favorites, all registration info for all the apps, all calendar, contacts, and tasks, and any registry tweaks.
If we can locate the backup program that does this with minimal user input we have passed step one. Step 2 would be to cook the self executing backup file into the ROM, and step 3 would be making the ROM run the self executing backup after hard reboot, during the automated customizations. And if you soft reset the device before it runs customizations, I would want it to start running the customizations immediately after the reboot (like the newer stock ROMs do).
That way if my phone gets stolen I can use Sprite Terminator to locate it, and whoever steals it will have to flash a new ROM to get rid of Sprite Terminator.
I would not want this backup file listed anywhere on the device either. For example, if you look in "Programs" (or anywhere else) you don't see it. That may or may not be the hardest part- I don't have any idea if it's even possible. But it's not an issue until we get the other steps done.

life would be much easier...I hope someone can make this real

Any UC compliant ROM can do that for you. They are meant to autorun any file which you users want to run after ROM upgrade. Good luck, check sleuths thread for more info.

Sprite backup question-please help

Here is my situation:
I had a HTC Touch Pro T7272. A few days ago I lost this phone but ordered a new one.
I ordered the same phone, but it may have a different ROM/Radio version
For the phone I lost, I have a full backup, from 3 weeks ago. I also have the updated synced files from the day before I lost this phone. I had done a lot of tweaks and added many programs, so it would be best to restore the full backup to the new phone.
1. When the new TP arrives, should I load the Sprite backup (an .exe file) onto the new phone and run that?
2. Then sync to my desktop to get the latest file updates?
3. Do I have to load sprite backup onto the Touch Pro first? Or can I just load the backup file and double clip it to execute Restore?
4. I have .net 3.5 loaded on my desktop. Do I need to load this onto the TP BEFORE I do the Restore?
Any advice here would be greatly appreciated.

Joe_PDA said:
Here is my situation:
I had a HTC Touch Pro T7272. A few days ago I lost this phone but ordered a new one.
I ordered the same phone, but it may have a different ROM/Radio version
For the phone I lost, I have a full backup, from 3 weeks ago. I also have the updated synced files from the day before I lost this phone. I had done a lot of tweaks and added many programs, so it would be best to restore the full backup to the new phone.
1. When the new TP arrives, should I load the Sprite backup (an .exe file) onto the new phone and run that?
2. Then sync to my desktop to get the latest file updates?
3. Do I have to load sprite backup onto the Touch Pro first? Or can I just load the backup file and double clip it to execute Restore?
4. I have .net 3.5 loaded on my desktop. Do I need to load this onto the TP BEFORE I do the Restore?
Any advice here would be greatly appreciated.
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1- You can - although it's not necessary if the backup file you created is self-restoring.
2- Yes after you've run your backup.
3- No, see my #1
4- No, unless the last backup you have doesn't include it.

Thanks for your advise C. My head is still spinning from losing my phone.

If the restore somehow messes with the phone (let's say it's got a new ROM and slightly different registry), you can always then backup your PIM data with PIM backup 2.8, then do a hard reset and restore the PIM data. If you want to get fancier, you can look through your registry and find the settings that you'd like to keep, and export those reg keys to your sd card, then import them back after a hard reset.

Since the backup file is an .exe file, can I run it from the micro sd card in the phone, or does it have to be run from the desktop?

I am sorry to tell you but, after updating to the new ROM, I tried to restore a backup taken with the old ROM and I had major problems, one of them being that the screen would not rotate when sliding out the keyboard, so I ended up hard-resetting and reinstalling all applications one by one....

Wouldn't you be better off restoring using the same ROM (as used in the backup), THEN upgrading ROMs?
This reminds me though, I don't know which ROM I had in my lost phone. Therefore I might have to reload eveerything one by one...ERRRR

Hi,
I recently did that after upgrading the ROM. I can say it works, but I'm not sure, if there are any files from the new ROM that have been replaced by old versions. You'd probably be better off just restoring your PIM data only...
CU,
Cactus World

Now I am all messed up. Please help.
1. I just received my replacement TP phone. I loaded the backup .exe file onto it but it would not execute. Error message says missing a component.
How to I get sprite backup working again? It is on my desktop.
2. I need to load .net 3.5 onto this device. I can't remember where I got it from or how I loaded it. Can someone remind me. It is actuially already loaded on my desktop.
3. I need to reload the latest version of Google Maps. Does anyone have the link?
Thanks for the help. My head is about to explode trying to get this new phone back to the previous state.

Okay, I figured out 1 & 2.
Does anyone have a link to the newest Google maps?
Does anyone know the registry setting to remove an icon on the email tabs? After doing the restore, I have 2 icons that were linked to email accounts, that no longer work. How can I get rid of them?
My last phone had "Programs" in the bottom right hand corner of Today screen. This one has "Contacts" I prefer "Programs" Does anyone know how to fix this?
I apologize if I suck at describing some of these issues. I am still beating myself up for losing the phone.

http://www.google.com/gmm/GoogleMaps.CAB
And try this for fixing those orphaned accounts - worked for me:
http://nicolasmauri.blogspot.com/2007/01/wm5-utility-recover-your-lost-mail.html

hyachts, thanks for the help. this software from Nicolas Mauri might work, but I couldn't tell from his blog. You see I have 1 or 2 extra email icons that were left from a restore. Will this program get rid of those email icons? Also, it is in .rar format so I can't use on my comouters here. I have to try my office. Is there a .cab file in the .rar file?

One more request. Does anyone know how to add the "programs" choice instead of "contacts" on the home screen (lower right hand corner)

What will happen if I upgrade mango beta and missing my backup?

What will happen if I upgrade mango beta and missing my backup?
I upgrade to mango beta yesterday, I follow the instruction and the program tell me the backup progress is 100% done.
But today I went to Windows Phone Update directory and it just only list one directory "Properties" and Properties.xml.
My windows phone is HTC HD7, is that possible copy others backup and restore on my HD7?

You'll probably be able to find a NoDo ROM online, so come time for the official release you should be ok.
It will just be a slightly bigger hassle since you don't have quick access to your own is all.

Mowd said:
What will happen if I upgrade mango beta and missing my backup?
I upgrade to mango beta yesterday, I follow the instruction and the program tell me the backup progress is 100% done.
But today I went to Windows Phone Update directory and it just only list one directory "Properties" and Properties.xml.
My windows phone is HTC HD7, is that possible copy others backup and restore on my HD7?
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I was wondering this too, I did the mangoforall update, and the directory in the route drive was only 4.00kb, I also was like WTF.
To use the backup, you needed to install the Windows Phone support tools, remember ??? Check that folder, it comes out on mine to a little over 5gb, and I am pretty sure(95%) that is where the backup is stored.
If your that worried, try to do a restore, if it works you can go right back to Mango, it just will take some time....
I personally would of liked clearer directions, I was kind of freaked out too. I also would like to backup this backup to DVD or another computer, to make sure I have a copy to roll back later.
Edit: Found the details on it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103011
hx4700 Killer said:
[BACKUP CREATION LOCATION:
Copy & paste the following in to the run dialog box:
%LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
You will have to manuall drill down from their because the sub folder structure is named from the Phones ID.
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Mowd said:
What will happen if I upgrade mango beta and missing my backup?
I upgrade to mango beta yesterday, I follow the instruction and the program tell me the backup progress is 100% done.
But today I went to Windows Phone Update directory and it just only list one directory "Properties" and Properties.xml.
My windows phone is HTC HD7, is that possible copy others backup and restore on my HD7?
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If you updated via the non dev unlocked way they will not be there they will be here "C:\\PreMangoState "

To use the backup, you needed to install the Windows Phone support tools, remember ??? Check that folder, it comes out on mine to a little over 5gb, and I am pretty sure(95%) that is where the backup is stored.
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Where's the location? %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update is the path I mention but I can't find backup.
Also, I can't find backup in C:\PreMangoState

I decided to screw all the update backup crap.
When Mango officially hits I'll reflash my phone with a ROM - that's it.
I have multiple phones - too much trouble trying to worry about this backup and that back-up.

the back up files are so huge.....
as i forget to delete my music and video and games, i got a back up file folder lager than 9G

Backup location
According to the Microsoft PDF, the backup location is:
C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\
followed by the unique ID of the device (for example e64ab58e - 58d.....)
My folder is 2.2GB. To restore, you go to Zune and pick Settings/Phone/Update/Restore.
If you received a Microsoft Connnect invite, the agreement had like 5 places where it made you check "I swear on the blood of my ancestors that I will back up because backups are holy". The instructions, invites, everything say "backup, backup, backup, backup, backup, backup.... copy your backup to a USB stick and put it in a bank vault". And then kind of finishes with, "did we mention, you need to back up, or your phone will be stuck in pre-Mango?"
So... I would suggest... you back up
It took my phone only about 2-3 minutes to back up, using MangoB2-DevRetailUpdate.exe (much less than 531 seconds on their screenshot). Mind you, the next step (provisioning, where it says, "Installing Updates") took a lot longer than their 18 seconds (I think about 79 sec).
But like, 5 minutes is way better than "OMG MY STOOPID PHONE IS STUCK IN ****ING PRE MANGO" 2 months from now. Like, maybe they know something we don't and flashing back to NoDo is harder than it looks.
It was painless, really. Backing up took less time than reading about how important it was to back up

Actually I DO backup.
I just didn't check the backup location and re-check whether the backup is exist.
I just don't know why the upgrade tool says the backup progress is complete but it didn't save ANY backup on my computer.
That's all...

in worst case u would have to flash back a stock rom and have to reinstall everything...
i successfully downgraded from mango to 7004 and back up

webwalk® said:
in worst case u would have to flash back a stock rom and have to reinstall everything...
i successfully downgraded from mango to 7004 and back up
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Thanks, I'll try it if final version of mango is out.