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What will happen if I upgrade mango beta and missing my backup?
I upgrade to mango beta yesterday, I follow the instruction and the program tell me the backup progress is 100% done.
But today I went to Windows Phone Update directory and it just only list one directory "Properties" and Properties.xml.
My windows phone is HTC HD7, is that possible copy others backup and restore on my HD7?

You'll probably be able to find a NoDo ROM online, so come time for the official release you should be ok.
It will just be a slightly bigger hassle since you don't have quick access to your own is all.

Mowd said:
What will happen if I upgrade mango beta and missing my backup?
I upgrade to mango beta yesterday, I follow the instruction and the program tell me the backup progress is 100% done.
But today I went to Windows Phone Update directory and it just only list one directory "Properties" and Properties.xml.
My windows phone is HTC HD7, is that possible copy others backup and restore on my HD7?
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I was wondering this too, I did the mangoforall update, and the directory in the route drive was only 4.00kb, I also was like WTF.
To use the backup, you needed to install the Windows Phone support tools, remember ??? Check that folder, it comes out on mine to a little over 5gb, and I am pretty sure(95%) that is where the backup is stored.
If your that worried, try to do a restore, if it works you can go right back to Mango, it just will take some time....
I personally would of liked clearer directions, I was kind of freaked out too. I also would like to backup this backup to DVD or another computer, to make sure I have a copy to roll back later.
Edit: Found the details on it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103011
hx4700 Killer said:
[BACKUP CREATION LOCATION:
Copy & paste the following in to the run dialog box:
%LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
You will have to manuall drill down from their because the sub folder structure is named from the Phones ID.
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Mowd said:
What will happen if I upgrade mango beta and missing my backup?
I upgrade to mango beta yesterday, I follow the instruction and the program tell me the backup progress is 100% done.
But today I went to Windows Phone Update directory and it just only list one directory "Properties" and Properties.xml.
My windows phone is HTC HD7, is that possible copy others backup and restore on my HD7?
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If you updated via the non dev unlocked way they will not be there they will be here "C:\\PreMangoState "

To use the backup, you needed to install the Windows Phone support tools, remember ??? Check that folder, it comes out on mine to a little over 5gb, and I am pretty sure(95%) that is where the backup is stored.
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Where's the location? %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update is the path I mention but I can't find backup.
Also, I can't find backup in C:\PreMangoState

I decided to screw all the update backup crap.
When Mango officially hits I'll reflash my phone with a ROM - that's it.
I have multiple phones - too much trouble trying to worry about this backup and that back-up.

the back up files are so huge.....
as i forget to delete my music and video and games, i got a back up file folder lager than 9G

Backup location
According to the Microsoft PDF, the backup location is:
C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\
followed by the unique ID of the device (for example e64ab58e - 58d.....)
My folder is 2.2GB. To restore, you go to Zune and pick Settings/Phone/Update/Restore.
If you received a Microsoft Connnect invite, the agreement had like 5 places where it made you check "I swear on the blood of my ancestors that I will back up because backups are holy". The instructions, invites, everything say "backup, backup, backup, backup, backup, backup.... copy your backup to a USB stick and put it in a bank vault". And then kind of finishes with, "did we mention, you need to back up, or your phone will be stuck in pre-Mango?"
So... I would suggest... you back up
It took my phone only about 2-3 minutes to back up, using MangoB2-DevRetailUpdate.exe (much less than 531 seconds on their screenshot). Mind you, the next step (provisioning, where it says, "Installing Updates") took a lot longer than their 18 seconds (I think about 79 sec).
But like, 5 minutes is way better than "OMG MY STOOPID PHONE IS STUCK IN ****ING PRE MANGO" 2 months from now. Like, maybe they know something we don't and flashing back to NoDo is harder than it looks.
It was painless, really. Backing up took less time than reading about how important it was to back up

Actually I DO backup.
I just didn't check the backup location and re-check whether the backup is exist.
I just don't know why the upgrade tool says the backup progress is complete but it didn't save ANY backup on my computer.
That's all...

in worst case u would have to flash back a stock rom and have to reinstall everything...
i successfully downgraded from mango to 7004 and back up

webwalk® said:
in worst case u would have to flash back a stock rom and have to reinstall everything...
i successfully downgraded from mango to 7004 and back up
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Thanks, I'll try it if final version of mango is out.

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Sprite backup question-please help

Here is my situation:
I had a HTC Touch Pro T7272. A few days ago I lost this phone but ordered a new one.
I ordered the same phone, but it may have a different ROM/Radio version
For the phone I lost, I have a full backup, from 3 weeks ago. I also have the updated synced files from the day before I lost this phone. I had done a lot of tweaks and added many programs, so it would be best to restore the full backup to the new phone.
1. When the new TP arrives, should I load the Sprite backup (an .exe file) onto the new phone and run that?
2. Then sync to my desktop to get the latest file updates?
3. Do I have to load sprite backup onto the Touch Pro first? Or can I just load the backup file and double clip it to execute Restore?
4. I have .net 3.5 loaded on my desktop. Do I need to load this onto the TP BEFORE I do the Restore?
Any advice here would be greatly appreciated.
Joe_PDA said:
Here is my situation:
I had a HTC Touch Pro T7272. A few days ago I lost this phone but ordered a new one.
I ordered the same phone, but it may have a different ROM/Radio version
For the phone I lost, I have a full backup, from 3 weeks ago. I also have the updated synced files from the day before I lost this phone. I had done a lot of tweaks and added many programs, so it would be best to restore the full backup to the new phone.
1. When the new TP arrives, should I load the Sprite backup (an .exe file) onto the new phone and run that?
2. Then sync to my desktop to get the latest file updates?
3. Do I have to load sprite backup onto the Touch Pro first? Or can I just load the backup file and double clip it to execute Restore?
4. I have .net 3.5 loaded on my desktop. Do I need to load this onto the TP BEFORE I do the Restore?
Any advice here would be greatly appreciated.
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1- You can - although it's not necessary if the backup file you created is self-restoring.
2- Yes after you've run your backup.
3- No, see my #1
4- No, unless the last backup you have doesn't include it.
Thanks for your advise C. My head is still spinning from losing my phone.
If the restore somehow messes with the phone (let's say it's got a new ROM and slightly different registry), you can always then backup your PIM data with PIM backup 2.8, then do a hard reset and restore the PIM data. If you want to get fancier, you can look through your registry and find the settings that you'd like to keep, and export those reg keys to your sd card, then import them back after a hard reset.
Since the backup file is an .exe file, can I run it from the micro sd card in the phone, or does it have to be run from the desktop?
I am sorry to tell you but, after updating to the new ROM, I tried to restore a backup taken with the old ROM and I had major problems, one of them being that the screen would not rotate when sliding out the keyboard, so I ended up hard-resetting and reinstalling all applications one by one....
Wouldn't you be better off restoring using the same ROM (as used in the backup), THEN upgrading ROMs?
This reminds me though, I don't know which ROM I had in my lost phone. Therefore I might have to reload eveerything one by one...ERRRR
Hi,
I recently did that after upgrading the ROM. I can say it works, but I'm not sure, if there are any files from the new ROM that have been replaced by old versions. You'd probably be better off just restoring your PIM data only...
CU,
Cactus World
Now I am all messed up. Please help.
1. I just received my replacement TP phone. I loaded the backup .exe file onto it but it would not execute. Error message says missing a component.
How to I get sprite backup working again? It is on my desktop.
2. I need to load .net 3.5 onto this device. I can't remember where I got it from or how I loaded it. Can someone remind me. It is actuially already loaded on my desktop.
3. I need to reload the latest version of Google Maps. Does anyone have the link?
Thanks for the help. My head is about to explode trying to get this new phone back to the previous state.
Okay, I figured out 1 & 2.
Does anyone have a link to the newest Google maps?
Does anyone know the registry setting to remove an icon on the email tabs? After doing the restore, I have 2 icons that were linked to email accounts, that no longer work. How can I get rid of them?
My last phone had "Programs" in the bottom right hand corner of Today screen. This one has "Contacts" I prefer "Programs" Does anyone know how to fix this?
I apologize if I suck at describing some of these issues. I am still beating myself up for losing the phone.
http://www.google.com/gmm/GoogleMaps.CAB
And try this for fixing those orphaned accounts - worked for me:
http://nicolasmauri.blogspot.com/2007/01/wm5-utility-recover-your-lost-mail.html
hyachts, thanks for the help. this software from Nicolas Mauri might work, but I couldn't tell from his blog. You see I have 1 or 2 extra email icons that were left from a restore. Will this program get rid of those email icons? Also, it is in .rar format so I can't use on my comouters here. I have to try my office. Is there a .cab file in the .rar file?
One more request. Does anyone know how to add the "programs" choice instead of "contacts" on the home screen (lower right hand corner)

Htc pro replacement

Fisrt of all thank all of you guys for the information I have found here it's been very helpful.
Second, after finding and utilizing information found here to modify my HTC PRO I was forced by a keyboard failure to get a replacement. I tried everything I could figure out to transfer my set-up from the old phone to the new with no success. I was hoping to not have to go through the whole process of finding and installing all the different features and programs I had installed. I was hoping to simply overwrite the new phone with the old. Is there a means to do this? If there is..... could someone explain the process step by step as I am a complete nimrod when it comes to all of this?
Note: when I try to pull up the old phone while connected to my laptop it shows up as a removable drive and is no longer identified as "HTC PRO" and the abbility to drill down into the file system is limited. The new phone appears as it should. I have tried to copy the contents of the old phone to a folder then plug in the new phone and overwrite the file system but there are several files that I get a "file cannot be overwritten" errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks again guys.
KrakinAces said:
Fisrt of all thank all of you guys for the information I have found here it's been very helpful.
Second, after finding and utilizing information found here to modify my HTC PRO I was forced by a keyboard failure to get a replacement. I tried everything I could figure out to transfer my set-up from the old phone to the new with no success. I was hoping to not have to go through the whole process of finding and installing all the different features and programs I had installed. I was hoping to simply overwrite the new phone with the old. Is there a means to do this? If there is..... could someone explain the process step by step as I am a complete nimrod when it comes to all of this?
Note: when I try to pull up the old phone while connected to my laptop it shows up as a removable drive and is no longer identified as "HTC PRO" and the abbility to drill down into the file system is limited. The new phone appears as it should. I have tried to copy the contents of the old phone to a folder then plug in the new phone and overwrite the file system but there are several files that I get a "file cannot be overwritten" errors.
Any suggestions?
Thanks again guys.
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Do you have any backup utility like SPB backup? Some of them (I think Sprite backup) have the ability to backup programs you've installed as well, and that kind of thing is likely to be your best bet. Replacing files manually is unlikely to bring you success though.
EDIT: There's some discussion here that might be of interest.

[Q] Lost my WP7 restore files. Please help

Hi,
I just had to format my hard drive and thus lost all my WP7 restore files.
Is there anyway to recover all those file so that I can perform a restore on my phone?
I've tried different data restore softwares, but the files are all messed up and I can't remember which folder to put the files in.
Please help me. Thank you.
That really sucks, but this does raise a pretty good question. Where do the phone restore files save to? And how can somebody make sure their backup is going to transfer to a new HDD?
On Win7, try this:
\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\XXX-XXX-XXX\Data
I found 5.8Gb of data in this directory following my upgrade to 7390. This helps explain why the update took nearly an hour to complete...
FWIW, i've moved the data off my pc to another drive and everything functions well. The Zune update page no longers shows the option to restore to the previous update, 7008. Other than that, it all looks normal.
aquanaut88 said:
On Win7, try this:
\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\XXX-XXX-XXX\Data
I found 5.8Gb of data in this directory following my upgrade to 7390. This helps explain why the update took nearly an hour to complete...
FWIW, i've moved the data off my pc to another drive and everything functions well. The Zune update page no longers shows the option to restore to the previous update, 7008. Other than that, it all looks normal.
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Thanks. Can you show me the files and folders contained in that backup?
I wanna try my luck again with this
yea, the other guys are right, I had the same issue but if you follow this you will guarantee that you will find your files
Thanks. But what I need to know is the folders to put my recovered files to
In my case it seems they're here:
C:\Users\your user name here\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update\xxxxx - xxxxx - xxxxxx - xxxxx\RestorePoint\xxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxxx\Data
I hope it helps
If you formatted your Hard Drive after you made your backup, you might be SOL unless you have a backup of your hard drive after you backed up your phone.
If you dont, The only real way is to find a rom for your phone.
The folder would be in...
%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

[Q] Restoring original rom help

Need a bit of help guys. I need to revert my focus to the original rom. I updated to nodo thinking I could unlock and sideload afterwards, but of course.. I couldn't. I've reformatted my pc since then and don't have my old restore point. I'm downloading a 7008 backup from a user here on XDA (thanks munkeyphyst!!!)
but I don't know how to get Zune to see it as an old restore point. Can anyone tell me where I need to put the files?
I have XP SP3.
thanks in advanced.
Deviant6 said:
Need a bit of help guys. I need to revert my focus to the original rom. I updated to nodo thinking I could unlock and sideload afterwards, but of course.. I couldn't. I've reformatted my pc since then and don't have my old restore point. I'm downloading a 7008 backup from a user here on XDA (thanks munkeyphyst!!!)
but I don't know how to get Zune to see it as an old restore point. Can anyone tell me where I need to put the files?
I have XP SP3.
thanks in advanced.
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any chance he has shared the backup in a thread? I am in need of such a backup as well. The files are all saved in your zune folder by the way, if you make a backup of your phone you will find them.
sidicious said:
any chance he has shared the backup in a thread? I am in need of such a backup as well. The files are all saved in your zune folder by the way, if you make a backup of your phone you will find them.
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Here you go guys. link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973420 try this

[Q] Backup->Update->Restore

Hi,
I have searched in the forums but i couldnt find any solution to my problem.
My phone is a LG Optimus 7 unbranded on mango.
I want to backup my phone, update it to the latest rom with tethering enabled and after that i want to restore from backup.
How can i do that?
Thanks in advance!
There is no tool that can do that right now. The backup only happens when a new updates come in and Zune does that. It cannot be done manually.
Thanks for the fast answer!
So do i have to wait for the tethering update to appear in Zune or do i have to flash another firmware?
xtrcentral said:
Thanks for the fast answer!
So do i have to wait for the tethering update to appear in Zune or do i have to flash another firmware?
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Only Zune will be able to do it. So I guess unless they do you have no choice. And No Firmware can enable it.
wpxbox is actually incorrect, there is a tool to create an image-based backup (like Zune does when updating) on demand. Search the Development and Hacking sub-forum, and you can find it. Note that it requires a program, updatewp.exe, that was once distributed by Microsoft and no longer is, so you'll need to find a copy of it (and the version for that copy must exactly match your Zune version).
However, what you're asking for isn't actually useful anyhow, unless you want to install the update and then immediately remove it. A WP7 backup is really more properly called a restore point - it's a full image of the phone's entire storage, including the parts that are normally read-only (the ROM). Restoring that image overwrites everything, including the ROM. Updates are modifications to the ROM, and restoring a backup will therefore remove the update.
That cleared the things... Thanks.
Thanks for correcting me. Apprciate that.
Yes there is a tool which you can find here but to make it work you need to use Old version of Zune and replace couple of DLL.
I personally have tried it but for some reason it did not work for and hence I was not recommending it. But thats me.
Go ahead and give it a shot to see if it works for you. If yes let me know how you did.
--wpxbox
GoodDayToDie said:
wpxbox is actually incorrect, there is a tool to create an image-based backup (like Zune does when updating) on demand. Search the Development and Hacking sub-forum, and you can find it. Note that it requires a program, updatewp.exe, that was once distributed by Microsoft and no longer is, so you'll need to find a copy of it (and the version for that copy must exactly match your Zune version).
However, what you're asking for isn't actually useful anyhow, unless you want to install the update and then immediately remove it. A WP7 backup is really more properly called a restore point - it's a full image of the phone's entire storage, including the parts that are normally read-only (the ROM). Restoring that image overwrites everything, including the ROM. Updates are modifications to the ROM, and restoring a backup will therefore remove the update.
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Thanks for providing the direct link. I was able to get it working, although it took a lot of work to find matching versions of the tool installer (v1, not v2) and Zune software. It's possible, though. Take a look at the Backup header in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963. It has instructions and links that you may be able to use to make the tool work.
Hi,
I finally poured in one complete day figuring out what was in that thread and made it work. I have written my version of making it work here
And Have also created a Video Demo as a Proof that How I made it work. Any feedback is appreciated.
The video is like 11:28 Minutes long. Where I have :
First showed what is my phone
Then created a Backup
Showed where the backup is actually stored i.e. Zune Default restore point
Reset my Phone
Used the Backup to bring it normal state.

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