Hey,
I want to try WM6 out, but don't want to lose my warranty.
I've bought the wizard (KJAM) from my operator, that has its own boot screen and extended rom, but the rom is the regular IMATE WWE that i've downloaded from the IMATE website.
Now a few questions:
1. Will I be able to install the official ROM from IMATE directly over the WM6 one?
2. If I install the official IMATE ROM, and copy the extended rom of my operator (that i can copy using Total Commander), will it bring back everything like it was before?
3. Searching around here turned up very complicated ways to backup and reinstall original (ROMS +Extended), and not 100% reliable.
Is there any easy, straight-forward and reliable way to backup and restore everything (and I mean everything, even restore the CID lock), so I won't lose my warranty?
Thanks A lot, sorry if answered before and I couldn't find it.
Welcome to the forums...
First off, understand that most everything being done here will violate your warranty. So remember that before you proceed with anything else if thats a real concern. I can tell you that a friend of mine CID Unlocked his phone upgraded to WM6 and then had an issue. He just flashed back to the default Cingular rom, and there was no problem with the warranty exchange... BUT YMMV...
First step is you need to determine if you have a G3 or G4. But really either way, if you don't want to CID Unlock, then you can check out the sticky in the G4 and the Wizard Upgrading boards on how to flash without CID Unlocking.
I'd suggest you start reading here as this will help you figure out which type of Wizard you have and how to proceed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
3. Searching around here turned up very complicated ways to backup and reinstall original (ROMS +Extended), and not 100% reliable.
Is there any easy, straight-forward and reliable way to backup and restore everything (and I mean everything, even restore the CID lock), so I won't lose my warranty?
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If you are talking about for a warranty exchange you just have to reflash your carrier's official rom and you are back to that. You can use spb backup (or similar) to take a full backup before you start flashing new roms, and then restore to that backup when you go back to WM5 (but don't use that backup on a WM6 rom and don't use spb backup to restore from one rom to another one).
As for putting back the CID Lock (on a G3), just flash back to the Button ROM, and then flash your carrier rom. As I understand it, you will be CID Locked when you move from 1.xx to 2.xx (at least I know you have to do lokiwiz again if you go back to 1.xx so I assume that means the CID lock is back).
Thanks, I know that my phone is G3, and I've read many times how to flash a ROM. My problem is how to backup my current ROM with all the operator's customizations....
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Hi guys,
I've just implemented a Vox USPL which allows you to flash any Vox ROM updates, i.e. you can flash any *official* ROM even if your phone's model and vendor ID doesn't match. It's confirmed that you can also flash cooked ROMs
This SPL is based on original Vox 1.16 SPL but includes 3 patches:
1) g_cKeyCardSecurityLevel = 0 (set 32)
2) Does not check Model & Vendor ID
3) Does not check signature*
(*) code must be formally signed i.e. contain properly-formatted signatures on the right places, however no checking is performed against them.
This means you can flash ANY ROM to your Vox after running USPL on it, no need to pay for CID unlock anymore!
The USPL will *not* help you to SIM unlock your device. You still have to pay for that.
The USPL runs in RAM and is *not* flashed to your device, so there is no risk there. Once it runs you can run any official Vox ROM update utility.
The USPL does *not* permanently CID unlock your phone, like the CID unlocker from imei-check or so.
After you flashed a ROM your phone is again CID locked. Each time you wonna flash a ROM with a different model and/or vendor ID (different from your phone) or a cooked ROM, you must run the USPL again and then flash the ROM.
It's beta and untested and the risk is entirely yours !! Don't blame me if you brick your phone
EDIT:
You can now also flash the USPL allowing you to flash any unsigned (cooked ROM or ROM module, e.g. radio or OS) or signed ROM with any model/vendor ID. The USPL substitutes your SPL until you perform a full ROM update. Consider it as an extra insurance in case something goes wrong with flashing cooked ROMs or any other ROM update !
Instructions:
1. Run the USPL (Vox USPL- CID BYPASS.zip)
2. Run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe (Vox-USPL-RUU.zip)
Have fun,
JockyW
The attachments:
SDA_ApplicationUnlock.zip : application unlocker if u need it
mtty1.42.zip : terminal emulator (not neccessary if u only do ROM updates, but if you wonna play with the bootloader commands you need it)
Vox-USPL-RUU.zip: flash version of USPL (Note: you must first run USPL from "Vox USPL- CID BYPASS.zip" before you can flash it with ROMUpdateUtility.exe from Vox-USPL-RUU.zip !!!)
Vox USPL- CID BYPASS.zip : instructions included
Credits: in particular to pof. This USPL and also the one for Excalibur is based on his USPL for the Elf. See here
I think this is one of the most fantastic news of the century!!!
Finally some cooking can start on this little device.
Thanks again,
Ka.
noob question
what the difference between sim unlock and cid unlock?
This can be found in various threads around here, anyway.
SIM Lock - You can't use a SIM from a different provider than the one who sold you the phone.
CID-Lock - You can't flash your phone with a ROM which hasn't been cooked by your provider (or manufacturer for HTC unbranded phones).
Ka.
jockyw2001 great but make one for htc oxygen pls.
htc s710 - rom
confirm this is working very gd
thanks for all yoru help and support to this fourm
hi, i tried the method described and when it runs haret my vox shuts down... and nothing happens, i have to turn it on myself.
madds said:
hi, i tried the method described and when it runs haret my vox shuts down... and nothing happens, i have to turn it on myself.
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Same here
anyone online right now wanna drop me a line about this... what do I do exactly with the ruu file. Do I place rom image in that folder while runnning update???
so i followed the instructions and executed the cid bypass(installed itsutils and haret). once i get to the end it says use mtty or flash with RUU. so I attempt to flash right after (am I supposed to flash while the screen is black) but its gives me a connections error. I figure its because the phone is off. So I turn it on and update with the RUU again but only make it to 3% before I get a invalid vendor id. Would anyone care to comment on how I can flash this vox to the dopod rom...
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hi, i tried the method described and when it runs haret my vox shuts down... and nothing happens, i have to turn it on myself.
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acid74 said:
Same here
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To the users who had the same problem as me I am currently flashing my phone and I managed to get past my problem by using the SDA Application unlocker on my vox. I always thought that HTC were already application unlocked. Was going crazy for a while but I guess I should've followed the instructions step-by-step regardless of what I thought.
Big up to jockyw2001(and of course pof for without him alot of us would still be using shipped rom) for this wicked tool.
Cheers
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To the users who had the same problem as me I am currently flashing my phone and I managed to get past my problem by using the SDA Application unlocker on my vox. I always thought that HTC were already application unlocked. Was going crazy for a while but I guess I should've followed the instructions step-by-step regardless of what I thought.
Big up to jockyw2001(and of course pof for without him alot of us would still be using shipped rom) for this wicked tool.
Cheers
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Thanx man,last night i figured it out too......hows the dopod ROM??
acid74 said:
Thanx man,last night i figured it out too......hows the dopod ROM??
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I only got this phone so I could upgrade it for a friend to stop the boot loop. It seems to have fixed that problem so I guess it's better than the other roms. On the other hand I can't stand smartphone's so my suggestion is to ditch your SP and switch to PPC . Also I read before hand that this ROM doesn't include Windows Live Messenger but it is included in the rom. Just thought I'd let u guys know.
input please
Just ran into another problem and would appreciate some input. I understand that USPL only works for one flash...but I wasn't aware that a hard reset counted as a flash. Regardless my device hung at the dopod boot screen after a hard reset. Is this normal after using USPL on a device, and if so does this occur with all devices??? I would hate to give a phone back and have to tell the person that they can't perform a hard reset...
neptune said:
Just ran into another problem and would appreciate some input. I understand that USPL only works for one flash...but I wasn't aware that a hard reset counted as a flash. Regardless my device hung at the dopod boot screen after a hard reset. Is this normal after using USPL on a device, and if so does this occur with all devices??? I would hate to give a phone back and have to tell the person that they can't perform a hard reset...
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If you flash a full ROM the SPL is overwritten with the one in the ROM (Dopod = 1.19). Nothing to do with USPL. Booting can take a long time after hard reset. Unplug battery and try again.
jockyw2001 said:
If you flash a full ROM the SPL is overwritten with the one in the ROM (Dopod = 1.19). Nothing to do with USPL. Booting can take a long time after hard reset. Unplug battery and try again.
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Thanks, I got it to work eventually...Good to know USPL doesn't effect hard resets, I guess you learn something new everyday.
If I had to take a guess before hand I'd figure a SP would boot faster than a PPC, but I realize now that I'd be wrong...
thanks to all for the help, I can finally return this Vox back to its owner
cheers
Hi
I flashed my E650 in French with the swissrom (present on FTP), all works !
an idea to change the logo operator to HTC original ?
thanks
thought I fixed the problem. seems as if after a day it just hangs at the dopod screen. It was working fine everytime I had it. As soon as I give it back it seems to hang. Guess ima just flash it back to the HTC rom, too much hassle for just $20.
why SDA_ApplicationUnlock.zip can't unlock my Orange SPV E650?
Successful rom flash done on a spv e650 on a sim unlock device UK orange
Hi,
I purchased my TYTN-II from UK as sim free in Oct-07. From the last five months i was under the impression that HARDSPL is very much necessary for flashing. Though i never tried to HARDSPL my unit. Last month there was RUU upgrade from HTC e-club. Since it was from HTC and there was no special instruction before running RUU. So i run the RUU directly and my unit was successfully upgraded to WM 6.1.
After that i realised that 6.1 is not stable. So, with the help of the forum ... i downloaded the WM 6 shiped RUU from the forum and run directly and again my device accepted the WM6.
Now, i am confused that how this happened ? am i not suppose to HardSPL my device before flashing specially at downgrading level ?
OR since my device is SIM Free / Unlocked thats why it doesn't need HardSPL ?
I am just trying to educate myself nothing else ...
Regards
i believe that u still need to hard spl the right spl for that rom u installed...the spls are stickied in this forum
admins = plz shut this thread down...
I always thought it was normal for sim free phones.
I could just be thick. But I thought it was due to networks and simlocks that people had to HardSPL.
So its just for cooked ROMs. I get it now. So you flashed a HTC ROM on a HTC device. Which would have flashed the correct SPL anyway.
Hard SPL's allow you to flash cooked roms safely without bricking the device. Since you flashed an official rom from HTC you wouldn't require a modded SPL
There are different hard spl's for wm6.1 thats all. To be honest you are normally safer just to hardspl anyway. Back in the day, if you hadnt hard spl'd your phone and you bricked it, it was basically impossible to fix. Not sure these days on the kaiser, i have never tried not hard spl'ing mine so i couldnt say.
OEM SPL does NOT allow you to downgrade even if the ROM fits your device. I don't know why you not taking HardSPL, if you worry about the warranty, just go ahead to flash ROM with HardSPL, then flash OEM SPL back after it.
if you device is from HTC and not locked to a provider you can flash roms from HTC-E club BUT!!! your phone is not truly safe HardSPL is like a condom for your kaiser if something happens lets say the USB plug comes out while flashing NOT having HardSPL you might have an issue BUT you probably WILL... Just do yourself a favor and flash HardSPL you can always revert back to the shipped SPL if you need to for a warranty return......
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if you device is from HTC and not locked to a provider you can flash roms from HTC-E club BUT!!! your phone is not truly safe HardSPL is like a condom for your kaiser if something happens lets say the USB plug comes out while flashing NOT having HardSPL you might have an issue BUT you probably WILL... Just do yourself a favor and flash HardSPL you can always revert back to the shipped SPL if you need to for a warranty return......
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Thanks austinsync,
It seems to me that i almost tried to kill my device. Now advice me which Hard SPL should i use for TYTN-II. I mean 3.28 or something else ?
They look like same to me ...
Regards,
Hey, I just got my Fuze yesterday, and I'm loving it. I just have a question that I couldn't seem to find by the search.
How would I go about returning the Fuze to the stock SPL after flashing it to HardSPL? I'm asking just incase I need to return it. Would I just flash the default AT&T ROM to restore everything? Or does more have to be done? AKA Do the directions in the Hard-SPL thread apply to the Fuze?
Sorry if this is a dumb question--it's been a while since I've owned a WM phone. (Wizard to be exact =])
NVM Found the answer.
Here for those that want to know:
No need to have the SPL 1.95...I had to exchange my Fuze today because of a problem with buttons...
Just follow the steps on the front page and then afterwards reflash the stock att rom(the one with SPL 1.95)...it will flash SPL 1.95 with it
confirm by going into bootloader
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what front page? i want to reflash to oem to exchange for a new fuze
hard spl has overwrite protection. you will have to flash the unsigned spl to overwrite ti (just search for "stock spl"). However, my question is, if you flash the stock rom, do you have to go thru flashing the original spl as well or the hard spl will work with the stock rom as well?
thank you all!
Friends,
So far I have had no problems flasing hardspl and chef roms. I know this is a stupid question but I would imagine this would void the warranty of the device with my at&t provider?
I have my own personal insurance on the device (not with at&t). But what if I start experiencing problems with the device. Would there be a way to revert back to the custom rom and change the hardspl?
Please advise.
tvos
just find the att stock rom on this forum..not sure where it is as i havent looked through the roms as i dont own a fuze but have been active in the forum because i plan on getting one SOON..and for hardspl..dont know about ehre but like in the kaiser forum they have att stock spl and you revert back by using a SSPL (Software SPL) that is in EXE format and you open it in the file manager and it loads up the bootloader and then you flash the old SPL from there because you cant load a SPL from the normal bootloader because SPL IS YOUR BOOTLOADER so just look for those or wait for someone to post the needed files (you can find the att stock rom for sure) but in actuality alot of people have gotten away without reverting the SPL (i havent heard of anyone getting charged for voiding the warranty) but if you want to be safe you can always go down to a DSC (Device Spport Center) (http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB91429 for a list of DSC's) and once they swap it your home free and they have never checked the bootloader for me (well everytime ive broughten it in it was stuck in bootloader but they never examined the screen) so yah thats my 2 cents ;-)
ive exchanged multiple tilts with warranty exchange, and never had an issue with the hardspl. i would always flash the stock rom back on though
Hey Everyone-
This post has probably already been answered but i have been searching the forums (and google) and getting mixed results.
I looking to flash the ROM on my HTC Touch Pro (Fuze). However, I've read that my phone must be unlocked to flash a new radio, but not a new ROM. However I've also read that with a new ROM comes a new Radio. So which is it? Do i need to unlock my phone to flash a new ROM because if not i will have a phone w/o a Radio?
Thanks alot, these forums are awesome.
From my understanding, you only need to unlock the phone if you want to use another device's radio. For example, you have a Touch Pro, if you wanted to put a Touch HD radio on it then the phone needs to be unlocked. However, if you want to put another Touch Pro radio on your touch pro you shouldn't need to unlock the phone.
To answer your second question about Roms with or without radios.... They come both ways but I have mostly seen Roms without included radios. Just read the desired Rom info page to find out if it includes a radio or not.
Unlock (HardSPL) is always necessary. No matter if u flash a radio, a rom or a radio/rom.
The only moment when u do not need to unlock is if u flash an official update , radio or rom, that is made from ur provider for ur phone. Or if its unbranded , the update is downloaded from htc itself with ur serial number entered befor.
BTW: Unlock (HardSPL) means that the loader of ur phone accepts NOT signed Roms or radio files for flashing.
Thank you both for the quick replies. So that i have this clear-
I can download and run hardspl according to the instructions etc, etc. Then if i choose to flash a rom without a radio i can. Then (or before) I can flash a Fuze Radio to my phone all without sim unlocking my phone?
Do i have that right?
Thank a million
Fuzer_Guy said:
Thank you both for the quick replies. So that i have this clear-
I can download and run hardspl according to the instructions etc, etc. Then if i choose to flash a rom without a radio i can. Then (or before) I can flash a Fuze Radio to my phone all without sim unlocking my phone?
Do i have that right?
Thank a million
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Not shure if I got u correct in the first post:
By unlock do u mean SIM unlock ? Means use sims from any provider.
By unlock u mean entering the pin number to use ur phone ?
By unlock u mean (what I thought first) enabling the phone to accept any kind of rom ?
Normally a new radio is not always needed, I flash most of the times leaving my radio as it is, if its good in reception and power consumption
2. What are the different types of Unlock? (answer by DaveShaw)
The three stages of unlock are:
SIM: Allows you to use SIM's from another carrier. Can be done using codes or unlocker programs on xda-devs.
Security: Allows you to flash radios from another device (i.e. Raphael) - It does other stuff, but this is all the casual user will use it for
CID: CID unlocking is an old concept, nowadays you flash Hard SPL instead. This lets you flash any ROM, Splash or Radio (depending on sec unlock) to your device. N.B. the CID is the carrier ID (e.g. HTC__001). The stock SPL's only let you flash ROM's that match the CID in the ROM image with the CID on your device.
Also, SuperCID is an even older concept no longer valid on newer devices.
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These are what I understand as the levels of Unlocking... so you're right. I was talking about a security unlock (my apologies). The carrier shouldn't have anything to do with the process. And i don't need special software to security unlock the phone right? (that's where i was getting confused)
As for that last part--
So assuming i like the reception and battery usage i get right now I can flash any ROM i want w/o worrying about losing the radio? And if i do get a ROM with a radio is the radio installed automatically or are there two steps? Thus enabling me to install the ROM without the radio that came with it?
Many Thanks
Fuzer_Guy said:
These are what I understand as the levels of Unlocking... so you're right. I was talking about a security unlock (my apologies). The carrier shouldn't have anything to do with the process. And i don't need special software to security unlock the phone right? (that's where i was getting confused)
As for that last part--
So assuming i like the reception and battery usage i get right now I can flash any ROM i want w/o worrying about losing the radio? And if i do get a ROM with a radio is the radio installed automatically or are there two steps? Thus enabling me to install the ROM without the radio that came with it?
Many Thanks
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Ok, first u have to HardSPL (What does: Ur Phone accepts any radio and/or rom)
From here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
NOTE 3: this is unsigned Hard-SPL. no limitations on flashing ROMs or radio packages. also, this has overwrite protection, if someone needs to revert to stock SPL for warranty reasons, we will soon post a stock SPL downgrade package.
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If u have a touch pro and want to use Diamond or Blackstone radios then u have to do look here, first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426609
Then:
Flash ROM -> ur radio stays the same
Flash Radio -> ur rom stays the same
Flash all in one -> Both are changing, radio and rom.
Look in the roms thread, they tell u if it comes with or without radio. I think most of the times without. The original Raphael rom from HTC is WITH radio btw
Thank you very, very, very much!!!
Im gonna give this a try now.
Once again, many thanks.
Fuzer_Guy said:
Thank you very, very, very much!!!
Im gonna give this a try now.
Once again, many thanks.
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Make sure to thoroughly read through the stickys on flashing a rom........
overall, as mentioned, hardspl first, then falsh rom, hard reset, then flash radio, hard reset, then install rilphone cab and you're good to go....
read read read....