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Proof that JAM radio 850mhz is firmware Based?

OK, I've got two JAM's (backup for my boss in case he loses his, no joke, a definite possibility), so I've got the luxury of doing some playing with the spare. These are both 900/1800/1900mhz versions of the JAM bought before the 850mhz version was even available.
I was installing various radios (1.01, 1.05, 1.10, 1.11) seeing which is best. See xda-developers for instructions. I've got T-mobile sims in both JAMs.
I installed 1.10 radio (850mhz version) on the spare JAM, and I liked the speed with which it acquired a signal. Also the signal seemed to hold slightly better in my office, than the 1.05 radio version on my JAM, with both side-by-side.
So I do a little network check, by manually checking for available networks between the two sitting side-by-side. Well the 1.10 radio pops up and gives T-mobile and Cingular as options. And the 1.05 radio pops up with T-mobile and AT&T wireless only. Now I'm pretty sure Cingular in my area is only 850mhz, which would seem to be confirmed by this little test. Of course I can't connect to it, as the sim is T-mobile.
So I go get a Cingular sim from an employee, and pop it in the 1.10 radio JAM and do the manual network check, and Cingular and T-mobile again pop up as options. I pick Cingular and walaa, it connects with about 3 bars. I can make and receive phone calls. The upper right corner of the phone pad says Cingular as well. I then remove the Cingular sim and pop it in my 1.05 radio JAM. I do the manual network check and the only options which appear are AT&T wireless and T-mobile. I can connect to AT&T wireless but have only one bar.
So to recap, I put the Cingular sim in the 1.10 radio JAM (850mhz radio on device which is supposedly only 900/1800/1900mhz) and I can connect to Cingular. I put the Cingular sim in the 1.05 radio JAM (900/1800/1900mhz radio and device) and I can only connect to AT&T wireless not Cingular (it says AT&T wireless in upper right corner of phone pad).
To me, this means that the 900/1800/1900mhz JAM is really 850/900/1800/1900mhz (quad band) but only crippled to tri-band by the radio firmware. Am I all wet here?
edit- my model numbe is PM10A which is supposedly the 900/1800/1900 version.

What a great news!!! I am updating my only my radio image to 1.10 (w/ Chinese Dopod 818 1.06 for the OS) and see how it goes.

Jack, careful, check response by a respected and knowledgeable hofo member whtrbt7 here:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=612453
Apparently you could damage your GSM radio so that it might malfunction. However, I have seen a few people here who've used the 1.10 radio firmware without adverse results. Anyone have any more feedback?

Calling All Magician Experts, How to convert Jam 850 MHz to
Hi
i have tested this but unfortunately it is not true, does any know how to convert the 850 MHz JAM to the 900MHz JAM ??
regards
reo

HSDPA

Ok now i have the 750v, i have it unlocked and using my HSDPA enabled tmobile account. Anyone care to guess at how to enable HSDPA do you really think it needs a software upgrade or is there some way to tweak as i believe the vodafone tytn had hsdpa switched off too
Chris

TREO 750V WAS RELEASED WITHOUT HSDPA. HSDPA WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER MARCH 2007 WITH A NEW ROM

yes there is a tweak to enable hsdpa. search in the tytn forum for "sethsdpa" it is for the tytn but it works on my 750 also

if you enable hspda on treo 750v and your on voda network then you will not receive voice calls whilst using hspda in either push email or browsing.
same applies to any device using hspda on voda network unless your north of the borders apparently.
we are all waiting for voda network to be upgraded :-(

Tornado = Cingular 2125?

I have read that the Tornado is the 2125 w/o wi-fi, so why do they look completely different?

Yes they are very close to the same, the hump is added antenna that was for the us models (T-Mobile SDA and Cingular 2125)

HSDPA Vodafone UK

Hey Guys,
Ive upgraded to the latest Vodafone WM6 ROM and was expecting to be able to get HSDPA connections, I live in Basingstoke and should (according to Vodas coverage map) be able to get HSDPA. I have also tried in Reading Newbury and Central London.
The max speed I can actually get is around 200kbits (average is about 140kbits) and I never get an "H" symbol just the usual "3g" one. Speeds were tested on the dsl reports mobile speed test with 100k download. http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
Can anyone on the Vodafone UK network get an HSDPA connection? I have complained to Vodafone but they are useless.
I also found out that Vodafones network is currently being upgraded to support HSDPA data and Voice simultaneously.
I have a feeling HSDPA is currently still off on the UK Vodafone flavor of the ROM but it would be nice to have this clarified.
All opinions welcome......... Thanks in Advance.

Hi.. Can't help you with Vodafone but I'm on Orange with a wm6 750v and only get the 3g icon but it does use the orange HSDPA network when i connect to the internet. Much quicker than when I was on wm5 and could only get UTMS, think you get the 3g icon with wm6 whatever network it uses but I could be wrong. There was talk that Orange and Voda were going to mix their 3g networks for better coverage, maybe it has something to do with that?

Hi, I'm on Vodafone UK (contract). I was hoping for WM6 to have HSDPA natively on this ROM, but I too only ever saw the 3G symbol. Out of frustration I re applied the HSDPA hack for WM5.
Sure enough - HSDPA is present. It shows 3G, then when data is actively moving - it changes to a H.
I've done speed tests and can get over 700k download speeds.
I live in the Durham area with 100% HSDPA coverage.
After applying the hack, or after a reset - reset it again - for some reason it takes 2 soft resets for it to "take".
But you need to apply the old hack.
Hope that helps you!

Ive upgraded to wm6 on 750v but still needed to apply this to get 700+kbit/sec
http://www.gadgetech.info/treo/hacks/hsdpa/
'H' all the way now

Be warned - rumour has it that using HSPDA on 750v causes voicecalls issues (ie you wont get any if push email occurs) in certain parts of UK on voda network.

Cheers for the input guys,
Im a little bit upset that HSDPA has not been included in the UK 750V ROM-- I know why because Vodafones network isnt upgraded yet--- but palm could of at least told us this was the case!!
Sooo are we expecting another ROM update when Vodafones network is ready?
Would be nice to get some clarification!.

HSDPA is there. I installed the Vodafone ROM (though I did remove the extended ROM) on my generic 750. Not to rub salt in the wound, but I am on 3 and dslreports is showing me connected at 900-1015kb/s.
I haven't experienced the issue of having a HSDPA push connection and have voice quality issues. I am on the phone most of the day with email constantly coming through.

Works for me
Ok so I have the Vodafone WM6 legit Rom and the HSDPA patch/hack installed and it works fine. When I make or recieve a call on the phone whilst browsing it drops the connection down to 3G as shown by the symbol (changes from H to 3G) then when the call is ended it changes back! Battery drain is exactly the same as using 3G but I am getting speeds on Vodafone in Sheffield of up to 1mbs
If I find I have any problems I will let you all know!

My 750v is unlocked and I'm using it on 3 in the UK with the WM6 upgrade. Get great HSDPA speeds now. No need to get the hack (which never worked for me on WM5 anyway).

I thought it worked!
Ok so I was sending a large email the other day (3mbs attachment) and I tried to make a call while it was sending the mail over the HSDPA. The phone tried to dial and then hung up. I tried to call the number again and got the same thing! I stopped the email sending and even though it was not transmitting any data I still could not make a call! I disconnected the data connection and making a call was fine, it worked 1st time!
I have since uninstalled the hack at it works fine now over 3G speeds!
What a shame, I want HSDPA back

I'm in central London (W10 and SW1) in areas listed on Vodafone's site as being in HSDPA coverage. Although I have WM6 installed I have never seen 'H'. I'm wary of the hack after comments above describing problems.
Vodafone have no answer for my issue.
Has anyone on a WM6 hack-less 750v picked up HSDPA in London/UK yet?

Vodafone's HSDPA Roadmap
MECX said:
Hey Guys,
Ive upgraded to the latest Vodafone WM6 ROM and was expecting to be able to get HSDPA connections, I live in Basingstoke and should (according to Vodas coverage map) be able to get HSDPA. I have also tried in Reading Newbury and Central London.
The max speed I can actually get is around 200kbits (average is about 140kbits) and I never get an "H" symbol just the usual "3g" one. Speeds were tested on the dsl reports mobile speed test with 100k download. http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
Can anyone on the Vodafone UK network get an HSDPA connection? I have complained to Vodafone but they are useless.
I also found out that Vodafones network is currently being upgraded to support HSDPA data and Voice simultaneously.
I have a feeling HSDPA is currently still off on the UK Vodafone flavor of the ROM but it would be nice to have this clarified.
All opinions welcome......... Thanks in Advance.
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Check this out mate HSDPA for Vodafone
HTC Touch Cruise(On it's Way)
Palm Treo 750V
AT&T 2.25 ROM Vanilla
CE OS 5.2.1620(Build 18125.0.4.2)
Software Version - TREO750-2.25-ATT
Firmware Version - 1.54.27.00
CC-Cap - 000-000-001
Carrier DB - 335
Radio Band
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS 2100
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
Free Memory
Storage - 55.31
Program - 27.78 MB

I'm afraid that link is dead and there doesn't seem to be a related article on that site.

HTC Apache XV6700 How to Unlook?

First of all thanks for the help that you provide to us the newbie’s
And since I’m a newbie I have a lot of questions let’s see if you can help me.
I will be very happy if you can
First I have a Verizon XV6700 suppose to be unlocked but it isn’t (sprint Boot screen)
Since I don’t know what HTC version is it I can’t find how to unlock this device
Device Info
ROM Version 2.06.00 WWE; ROM Date 02/22/06; Radio Version 1.27.00
Hardware Version 00.41
Hardware info
CPU Intel PXA270; Speed 416 MHz; RAM 64 MB; Flash 128 MB; Flash Chip M-Systems
1.- How can I know wish HTC do I have (Wizard, Artemis .etc)?
Searching the forum I think I have the HTC Apache: XV6700, PPC-6700
2.- How can I be sure? Thanks
3.- Is there a Tool to unlock this device? Or can I use the Wizard?
found this (can't post the link) but all the links are broken
I know now that this is an old phone but it’s a Birthday present from one of my daughters
And I don’t want to make her feel bad
Thanks for any help that you can give me

Found one Hope it helps some one else
HTC Wallaby* (branded as O2 XDA, T-Mobile MDA, Qtek 1010, Dopod 686, Telefonica TSM400, Siemens Cingular AT&T SX56)
HTC Falcon* (branded as Sprint Audiovox PPC 5050)
HTC Himalaya* (branded as O2 XDA II, T-Mobile MDA II, i-mate Phone Edition, Qtek 2020, Dopod 696, Orange SPV M1000, Vodafone VPA, Telefonica TSM500, Krome Navigator F1)
HTC Blue Angel* (branded as O2 XDA IIs, T-Mobile MDA III, i-mate PDA2k, Qtek 9090, Dopod 700, Orange SPV M2000, Vodafone VPA III, e-plus PDA III, Tata Indicom EGO, Siemens Cingular AT&T SX66)
HTC Harrier* (branded as i-mate PDA2k EVDO, Sprint Audiovox PPC6600/PPC6601, Verizon VX6600/VX6601, Daxian CU928)
HTC Magician+ (branded as 02 XDA II Mini, T-Mobile MDA Compact, i-mate JAM, Qtek S100, Dopod 818, Orange SPV M500, Vodafone VPA Compact, Krome SPY)
HTC Alpine* (branded as 02 XDA IIi, i-mate PDA2, Qtek 2020i, Dopod 699, Orange SPV M2500)
HTC Apache (branded as Sprint UTStarcom PPC6700, Verizon XV6700, Alltel UTStarcom PPC6700)
HTC Wizard (branded as O2 XDA mini Pro, T-Mobile MDA IV, i-mate K-JAM, Qtek 9100, Dopod 838, Cingular 8120/8125)
HTC Universal (branded as O2 XDA Executive, T-Mobile MDA Pro, i-mate JASJAR, Qtek 9000, Dopod 900, Orange SPV M5000, Vodafone VPA IV)
HTC Prophet (branded as I-mate Jamin, Qtek S200, Dopod 818 Pro, Orange SPV M600)
HTC Artemis (branded as HTC P3300, MDA compact III, Xda orbit, Dopod P800W, Dopod P800)
now I know what I have

Now after reading for more than a week
1.- I did try to flash it with the PDAJ Apache WM6.1 v2.02 without luck leaving the phone in Boot loader mode where you can read serial and V 2.0
2.- did connect the phone to the PC and you can read the connection USB in it then every time I try to flash it I get the error 150 this is not for this device or something like that
3.- After numerous attempts finally did flash it with the APA_VZW_20720_206_11000_WWE_Ship and in did it work
4.- at this time if you plug the phone to the PC you can see the main Disk (ROM I think) and the memory only so I keep trying to flash this with a generic one with the same results 150 error
5.- What I did was did change all the RUU the UI and the ROM Upgrade Ut with the nk.nbf of the generic from the APA_VZW_20720_206_11000_WWE_Ship to the generic and I have now the Generic one in the phone Windows Mobile 6 Professional CE OS 5.2.1620 Build 18125.0.4.2
ROM version 3.50.00 WWE radio 1.10.00 ExtROM version 2.07.206 WWE
6.- If I plug the phone I can see now the ROM the ext ROM 2 and the memory
My question how can you change this to be use it with another SIM (company) ?
Thanks

the phone does have a sim card tray
so it insn't a CDMA.
Thanks for the add info.
now Im' not sure
Removable User Identity Module (R-UIM) is a card developed for CDMA handsets that extends the GSM SIM card to CDMA phones and networks. To work in CDMA networks, the R-UIM contains an early version of the CSIM application. The card also contains SIM (GSM) application, so it can work on both networks. It is physically compatible with GSM SIMs and can fit into existing GSM phones as it is an extension of the GSM 11.11 standard [1].
This interface brings one of the main advantages of GSM to CDMA network phones. By having a removable identity card, CDMA users can change phones while keeping their phone numbers by simply swapping the cards. This simplifies many situations such as phone upgrades, phone replacements due to damage, or using the same phone on a different provider's CDMA network.
The R-UIM card has been superseded by CSIM on UICC. This technique allows all three applications (SIM, CSIM, and USIM) to coexist on a single smartcard, allowing the card to be used in virtually any phone worldwide that supports smart cards.
The CSIM application, a port of R-UIM functionality to the UICC, is defined in standard [2]
This form of card is widely used in China under the CDMA service of China Unicom (The CDMA service of China Unicom was acquired by China Telecom in 2008) . However, it is also used elsewhere such as India, Indonesia, Thailand, and Japan.
I can see in the phone that the DATA TRANSFER in all the ROMs that I can find is EVDO or 1X I can find one with GSM with EDGE or 3G
Data transfer
CDMA: The best data transfer technology it has to offer is the EVDO technology, allowing for a maximum download speed of about 2mb/s (about 700kbps in practice), which is similar to what a DSL line has to offer. EVDO is not available everywhere yet and requires a cell phone that is EVDO ready.
GSM: Offers EDGE, allowing for a maximum download speed of 384kbps (around 140kbps in practice). More technologies are being developed on top of EDGE such as HSDPA to boost the transfer rate to over 384kbps in practice. This technology requires an EDGE-ready cell phone.
CDMA offers faster data download and would therefore be the favoured choice for data transfer. GSM is catching up fast however, but its EDGE technology
Is there a way to enable the EDGE or 3G on this phone?