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Hi all,
Ive just got myself a tmobile wizard. ive been looking all through the wm6 pages and was just wondering is it worth me updating my wm5 to wm6. im sure all the new users would like to know this (is there speed improvements etc) and is there a rom that is stable and 99% working? as ive had alot of problems in the past when updating my blueangel to wm5
apologies if these are stupid questions
IMO, there's not enough extra in WM6 to justify the little problems it has. I'd suggest a stable WM5 like Farias 3.3
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
peterson65 said:
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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I would 2nd that!!! Now that we have the Ir button working 100%, i dont think there is other problems
So far so good here....
I know it's kinda aging now but I have been running NotTooSmart's Vanilla Rom for a while now and I have no issues whatsoever. I use my device constantly all day every day and though there was some trick to getting it to work just how I wanted I was comfortable enough to put the same ROM on my wife's Wizard as well (If you only knew how big of a step this was.... god forbid something goes wrong there I will never hear the end of it) .
Overall, here is the list of things that I do with rom if you are contemplating using it yourself and want to know if it will work for you.
Exchange activesync (heavy use)
Pocket IE
AIM 2.0 for PPC (osed once or twice)
Watching movies with TCPMP
( SEE TCPMP NOTES BELOW )
I use WMP as my only MP3 player with a couple of SD cards
WIFI works fine
Bluetooth headset with my HT850 works fine
Phone works okay. I mean, nothing is perfect and I do miss a call on occasion but so far it's acceptable. I have found, despite my previous posts, that 2.19 UK actually is more reliable. 2.25 US is better for data in my area but 2.19 UK causes me to miss a lot less calls.
I use internet radio via TCPMP at the gym every day reliably.
Sirius Sat Radio via SiriusWM5 works great although on occasion I do get the odd program error - NOTE: happens in WM5 too.
I DO NOT OVERCLOCK AT ALL as I really have no need for it.
Ewallet latest release works great
Listpro works great
I use a whole bunch of networking apps (tracert, pocket ping, etc...) from way back in the WM2003 days that still work just fine on WM6.
Terminal services works (though most people will not use this).
TCPMP NOTE: In order to do internet radio and most video you will need to DL and install the WMV9 codecs. This is a known issue and can be found by searching through back posts here in the WM6 forum.
Overall, I say yeah, it's worth it. It's more of an evolutionary upgrade than anything but it's a "nice to have". Plus, HTML email is real nice if you have EXCH 2007.
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
peterson65 said:
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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How is the battery life with this rom?
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
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I think this is the correct link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406
Make sure you have either G3 or G4 device as downloading the wrong version will brick your device.
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
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If you are wanting to give WM6 a go, then the Faria 3.3 rom is not the correct one. That is a WM5 rom.
The Faria Clean / Vanilla is the WM6 one. You have to download the entire ROM Kitchen, but there is a flash rom directory that has a default rom already built (or you can go through the build process to add and remove the stuff you want / don't want.
The link for the Faria WM6 is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406 (same as given above, but that is NOT the AKU 3.3 Faria ROM)
If you really want Faria AKU 3.3 (again, its a stable WM5 ROM) then its here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291806
And then use this link to step you through flashing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
ok thanks alot for the help....i have to wait 90mins for rapidshare to let me download the downgrade rom
will let you know how it turned out!
k2e15 said:
How is the battery life with this rom?
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it seems better than any wm6 i have tried , it does not have battery status installed and i have not installed it yet so without that and no overclocking its holding up as good as it did with farias wm5 3.3.
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks alot for the help....i have to wait 90mins for rapidshare to let me download the downgrade rom
will let you know how it turned out!
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sometimes you can get around the 90 minute wait by just putting http://anonym.to/? infront of the URL. Doesn't always work but its worth a try.
Is it worth it?
I know I'm coming in late to the thread, but I think in general I would be a bit more cautious. The leap from a stock rom to a (necessarily) custom WM6 rom, and then to a rom kitchen is better taken in baby steps in my opinion. In my own view, objectively I don't see any difference in my day to day usage of my wizard from when I was running WM5. In fact, I think because I've become obsessed with tinkering with it, I spend more time trying out different odds and ends, tweaking and breaking and fixing things than I do using it!
If you are primarily interested in USING you Wizard, I would start with a small step to say the Faria 3.3 WM5 rom. Learn to unlock, and flash, load your programs again, etc. Then once that's digested move up to WM6 if you really feel the itch, then try a rom kitchen as a final step.
Whatever you do, Keep it Fun!
Very good points, but unfortunately, Faria did not release his "Vanilla" as a seperate ROM but instead with the entire kitchen (which I agree could be dangerous for someone new). My point was you can use that Vanilla rom by downloading the entire kitchen, but just going to the falshrom directory and flashing what came with it as the default (I understand its basically what we were running in beta which is a very nice ROM). It is a very good WM6 rom with no "cooking" required.
I've thought about making a couple of these Faria Vanilla's up and posting them (with Faria's permission) for those that only want the rom and not the entire kitchen (or the temptation that comes with it).
i used to tinker my blueangel so much, but the wm5 roms just didnt work right. with this rom from the kitchen is it just a 'stock' one? will it just have the programs my tmobile rom has? as im happy with my tmobile rom but i just want to have wm6. i dont need all the tweaking tools as long as it works
cobra2222 said:
i used to tinker my blueangel so much, but the wm5 roms just didnt work right. with this rom from the kitchen is it just a 'stock' one? will it just have the programs my tmobile rom has? as im happy with my tmobile rom but i just want to have wm6. i dont need all the tweaking tools as long as it works
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No, its a "Vanilla" or "Clean" rom (ie: pretty much stripped down to the core). So you then add back to it just what you want.
If you want a full featured WM6, then look at Faria's "the real thing" but there are issues with that one so you have to dig through the huge thread for fixes (so I don't recommend it). If you want something that feels like a "stock" rom, then do the Faria AKU 3.3 (again, its WM5, but its better than the stock ones IMO).
I like the Vanilla roms though as you just put on it what you want. But not everyone likes that.
ive unlocked and my pda is ready for wm6. what file do i run from the kitchen folder to start the update?
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Very good points, but unfortunately, Faria did not release his "Vanilla" as a seperate ROM but instead with the entire kitchen (which I agree could be dangerous for someone new). My point was you can use that Vanilla rom by downloading the entire kitchen, but just going to the falshrom directory and flashing what came with it as the default (I understand its basically what we were running in beta which is a very nice ROM). It is a very good WM6 rom with no "cooking" required.
I've thought about making a couple of these Faria Vanilla's up and posting them (with Faria's permission) for those that only want the rom and not the entire kitchen (or the temptation that comes with it).
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I think that's a great idea. Even if you put in all his currently available options, it is still more of a vanilla rom. Maybe with and without Voice Command, as that seems to be a make or break issue for folks. But serve it up the way you like it!
cobra2222 said:
ive unlocked and my pda is ready for wm6. what file do i run from the kitchen folder to start the update?
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Well, if you're going to do this, now its time to start reading that thread.
Good luck!
i just want to install the vanilla standard rom, do i just need to run an exe from the kitchen folder?
At this moment what is the best Windows Mobile 6 ROM??
1) WM6 Smart v2
2) Fantastic Mobiz XBow v1.1i
3) PDAMobiz Prophet WM6 V1.00
4) other?
Thanks!
Well I am using Fantastic Mobiz XBow v1.1i and I personally feel this is the best of the 3 roms.
I have Used Smart v2 on my Dopod 818 pro and it was pretty buggy with crashes. With Fantastic Mobiz XBow v1.1i i havent had any issues so far been using it for a week now.
For my use i do best like Smart1 WM6 V2.. I think theres to much crap with the Fantastic xbow v1.1i.. Many apps wich i never gonna use and thats not the case with smart1 v2, wich i also think is the fastest of all the current wm6 roms..
Trueneytral 1.1
Fast
Smooth
Bugless
only one thing. Russiand dialpad...change it for other and you are done
Trueneytral 1.1
Fast
Smooth
Bugless
only one thing. Russian dialpad...change it for other and you are done
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302067&page=3
alberto888zz said:
At this moment what is the best Windows Mobile 6 ROM??
1) WM6 Smart v2
2) Fantastic Mobiz XBow v1.1i
3) PDAMobiz Prophet WM6 V1.00
4) other?
Thanks!
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For which phone? and what is your view of "best"? If I assume you are talking about prophet phones cuz you posted here, then the answer is depends. What are you looking for? I tried pretty much all of them, none of them are perfect to my standard. Wait for the official ROM for prophet if that is ever gonna happen. I will be perfectlly happy with an official wm5 AKU 3.3 even.
kenxu said:
For which phone? and what is your view of "best"? If I assume you are talking about prophet phones cuz you posted here, then the answer is depends. What are you looking for? I tried pretty much all of them, none of them are perfect to my standard. Wait for the official ROM for prophet if that is ever gonna happen. I will be perfectlly happy with an official wm5 AKU 3.3 even.
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None of them is stable even I have tuned the font and file memory. It still got hung often. I am using the offical rom again.
Smart1 v2 runs pretty fine here without crashes. Just the documented bugs.
Yo Alberto... as you can read in the forum, all those WM6 for the Prophet are a lill buggy. It compares to the user and his wishes, if one bug is important for him or not.
if you r looking for a fast and stable Prophet ROM, in my opinion the ASERG Rom is the best and the fastest you can get at the moment.
No WM6 Modification reach that speed, i tried them all and turn back to ASERGs ROM. I guess a stable WM6 for Prophet will take a while, anyway thanks to all of you guys who spend their time on modding it for us .
alberto888zz said:
At this moment what is the best Windows Mobile 6 ROM??
1) WM6 Smart v2
2) Fantastic Mobiz XBow v1.1i
3) PDAMobiz Prophet WM6 V1.00
4) other?
Thanks!
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ccc030 said:
Yo Alberto... as you can read in the forum, all those WM6 for the Prophet are a lill buggy. It compares to the user and his wishes, if one bug is important for him or not.
if you r looking for a fast and stable Prophet ROM, in my opinion the ASERG Rom is the best and the fastest you can get at the moment.
No WM6 Modification reach that speed, i tried them all and turn back to ASERGs ROM. I guess a stable WM6 for Prophet will take a while, anyway thanks to all of you guys who spend their time on modding it for us .
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sure ASERG Rom is the best and the fastest WM5 with WM6 appear
Stable no hang .... no soft reset ... never and never need hard reset
Yes, but .13.ASERG loses email settings, WiFi settings and God-knows-what-more (I'm testing it right now) when soft-resetted or battery removed. Inacceptable, I guess :/
Hey,
When I bought my Universal from ebay it already came with WM6 (a very buggy version, not sure from where). So I never really had the chance to test WM5.
I'm mostly having problems installing Hebrew support on the cooked roms. For instance PDAC (one of the companies who make hebrew for PPC) told me that because their software detects my device as WM5 their licensing system won't allow me to install (by the way, is there a work around this problem? This is all legit of course I want to buy this software).
I'm not going to ask what are the official differences because I can find more than enough about it on the web, but is there really a technical reason to stay with a cooked WM6 (being somewhat buggy)? Besides being prettier are the cooked roms giving any advantage over WM5 ? From my understanding both operating systems are pretty much the same besides the included software.
Thanks
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By the way I want to emphasize that I REALLY TRULY appreciate the effort spent into making these cooked roms. SERIOUSLY. This isn't a complaint thread!
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Yeah im think about downgrading but to be honest just flash with a good WM6 rom and then wait a bit and more software will come out its still a new OS and i like being like the elite few lol with WM6 thanks to XDA Developers!
rumble291 said:
Yeah im think about downgrading but to be honest just flash with a good WM6 rom and then wait a bit and more software will come out its still a new OS and i like being like the elite few lol with WM6 thanks to XDA Developers!
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Perhaps I will downgrade temporarily. My main concern is Hebrew support. Besides that everything else works just fine.
I would like to roll back to WM5 as well and tried Jwright's and Helmi's one. Both of them gave me surprising stable and reasonable fast experience. But one thing keeps me coming back to WM6 is the WAY MORE intelligence way of dialing a phone.
I am now still looking for a WM5 rom which is as stable as those I had quoted and WITH the Smartdialing function.
Any ideas? please share.
Thanks
ronaldphl said:
I would like to roll back to WM5 as well and tried Jwright's and Helmi's one. Both of them gave me surprising stable and reasonable fast experience. But one thing keeps me coming back to WM6 is the WAY MORE intelligence way of dialing a phone.
I am now still looking for a WM5 rom which is as stable as those I had quoted and WITH the Smartdialing function.
Any ideas? please share.
Thanks
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What's the smart-dialing function? I never had WM5 so I don't know the difference in dialing.
I just gave up on this idea after seeing how horrible WM5 is :/
And I actually managed to install Hebrew support! Yay!
I just gave up on this idea after seeing how horrible WM5 is :/
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WM5 horrible? wtf?
I you dont use video call, and you don't mind the bugs of WM6 with WiFi and MMS. Then stick with WM6. Otherwise.. use WM5.
DaVince said:
WM5 horrible? wtf?
I you dont use video call, and you don't mind the bugs of WM6 with WiFi and MMS. Then stick with WM6. Otherwise.. use WM5.
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From the things I saw in the official O2 installation I made:
- Sim contacts don't appear as regular contacts
- Outlook looks like the horrible outlook I had in my old PocketPC2002
- The phone dialer is not responsive and very buggy
- Overall slower than WM6
I'm personally not having any problems with WiFi in WM6.
And yeah I don't use video call or MMS I don't use any G3 features.
Oh.. you used the official WM5 from O2. I wouldn't use that myself.. too darn slow and lots of missing features. I'm using Jwright's ROM... anyway, it's just personal preference. I'd rather have all the features that my Universal can offer with WM5 rather than have a better looking WM6 ROM with buggy and missing features.
Highly Recommend To Try Kamal's WM5 ROM (AKU 3.5)
I recommend to try Kamal's WM5 ROM. You guys won't regret it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319838
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Hi,
I cannot choose the best ROM for my esigence, could some one tell me something more please?
I need almost this things:
AKU2 to use Email Push
VideoCall feature
A2DP
I have tried to go into all the features of each ROM, but I do not know, for example, if AKU0.7 works well like AKU2 for my email push provider.
Furthermore, a ROM'screenshot loks like the screen resolutions is something I have not seen before, where it is possible to see this forum well in Internet Explorer, and I do not know what it means.
I could be a good idea to hava a post with all the ROM and all the differences between each other, but I do not have the skill for doing this, sorry.
Videocall has problems in every WM6 rom. Not fully working.....
eelco_akker said:
Videocall has problems in every WM6 rom. Not fully working.....
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Thans for the replay, but...what you do mean "fully working"?
And for AKU2 vs AKU0.7, A2DP and VGA size?
alex_time said:
Thans for the replay, but...what you do mean "fully working"?
And for AKU2 vs AKU0.7, A2DP and VGA size?
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Can Call Out, not receive, that kind of stuff.
AD2P has problems on some 0.7 builds, VGA depends on rom. The best choice for now is i.m.h.o. JCWRIGHTMAPS 2.12, in a few days Laurentius and Beast are releasing an update which also will rock...
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Can Call Out, not receive, that kind of stuff.
AD2P has problems on some 0.7 builds, VGA depends on rom. The best choice for now is i.m.h.o. JCWRIGHTMAPS 2.12, in a few days Laurentius and Beast are releasing an update which also will rock...
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Thanks, I will wait few days and try it, so the last question is, what is the difference between AKU2 and AKU0.7?
AKU = Adaptation Kit Update
AKU2 is WM5
AKU 0.7 is WM6
Eelco
Hi All,
Got Mr Clean AKU 2.3 on my Wizard and it's working very nicely.
However, having now found out that I *can* run WM6 and still sync to Outlook 2000 at work, I'm tempted to put WM6 on it.
I use batterystatus to overclock, but I'm a bit worried that something like the TNT professional WM6 ROM might be, well, overstretching the Wizard.
What's performance like with the WM6 roms on a G3 Wizard?
Ric
landwomble said:
Hi All,
Got Mr Clean AKU 2.3 on my Wizard and it's working very nicely.
However, having now found out that I *can* run WM6 and still sync to Outlook 2000 at work, I'm tempted to put WM6 on it.
I use batterystatus to overclock, but I'm a bit worried that something like the TNT professional WM6 ROM might be, well, overstretching the Wizard.
What's performance like with the WM6 roms on a G3 Wizard?
Ric
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try it and see for yourself
landwomble said:
Hi All,
Got Mr Clean AKU 2.3 on my Wizard and it's working very nicely.
However, having now found out that I *can* run WM6 and still sync to Outlook 2000 at work, I'm tempted to put WM6 on it.
I use batterystatus to overclock, but I'm a bit worried that something like the TNT professional WM6 ROM might be, well, overstretching the Wizard.
What's performance like with the WM6 roms on a G3 Wizard?
Ric
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You won't be disappointed.
Same here. No way I'm switching back to WM5 even if most WM6 custom roms sometimes need a soft reset...
Try it and you won't go back! The only reason I'm flashing mines back to WM5 is because I'm selling it to buy the Hermes
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Try it and you won't go back! The only reason I'm flashing mines back to WM5 is because I'm selling it to buy the Hermes
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I guess it depends on where you are selling your wizard, or who the buyer is, but on eBay if you advertise that you have WM6 installed, the phone will usually sell for more.
^ I know, I did that when I sold the himalaya, I said it had WM5 and Tomtom I sold it for the same price I bought my wizard for.. lol
But the guy I'm selling the wizard to wants the original rom on it.
WM6 ROM's performance is most of the time less responsive. However Pagepool size on the ROM greatly enhances the performance of the device.
The speed of the ROM "responsiveness" Depends on the ROM base, presinstalled apps, start up apps, page pool, available RAM.
You have to try it to decide which one is best for you. You wont be dissapointed. Overclocking WM6 ROMs works like WM5 ROMs son dont worry push the pedal to the metal.
right. will try one on monday. what's the best rom out at the moment for the wizard? the tnt one? does touchflo cube slow it down too much? ideally i'd like a pretty tricked-out rom that performs well, with the option to add the frills via cab install at a later date if wanted...
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right. will try one on monday. what's the best rom out at the moment for the wizard? the tnt one? does touchflo cube slow it down too much? ideally i'd like a pretty tricked-out rom that performs well, with the option to add the frills via cab install at a later date if wanted...
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Please don't ask that question
See my post here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1649070&postcount=11