I have a question for users. I think I may be too harsh on SPBs products.
Current Users
How many of you are using SPB Pocket Plus...
Do you notice system resource drain when you use it?
What features do you generally use in the package?
Ex-Users
If you stopped using SPB Pocket plus why did you stop?
curently using spb pocket plus and spb weather and spb diary.
ive read about another program like SPB PocketPlus called spbsh or somthing like that. i want to try that soon to see what the difference is.
i am actually surprised at how little pocket plus slows down the system.
in terms of what features i use:
today plug in
close button
taskbar batt indicator
buttons (is enabled but i dont think i use it)
repeating alarms
PIE
file explorer
safe mode (tho ive never used safe mode, the checkbox is ticked)
hi
i m using spb plus and shell with all features. and i do not have any trouble with them.
I have been using pocket plus for about 2 years now.
It has a mild impact on system performance, e.g. in my case boot time has increased by 5 seconds and it takes about 1.5MB of program memory. However what it provides in return is far far morethan what it takes. For me I cannot imagine using windows mobile without pocket plus
Regards
spbsh
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SBSH iLauncher?
I am an ex user...
I realized the only feature I used was the close button where if I use a gesture (swipe down) it will close the application vs. minimize. Everything else I checked off.. Eventually, i stopped using it cause it was a memory hog and was conflicting with calligrapher starting up
Neil_Brown said:
SBSH iLauncher?
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yeah SBSH iLauncher and a couple of their other programs.
I just found this link. It compares the SBSH suite to the SBP suite.
hxxp://www.sbsh.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=13980&pid=135600&st=0&#entry135600
I like SPB but i want to try the SBSH stuff too. do you have an opinion as to which is better?
i'm an ex user...I just found it to be too big and clunky for waht it did. I prefer light applicaitons without today plugins. Maybe I've been to short-sided where SPB is concerned.
i currently use pocket plus+diary+weather with all features on,very good suite of software ,tryed sbsh products first of all but think that spb is updated much frequently making a good advantage
I use SPB Pocket Plus, Mobile Shell which is something of an overlap with PP, in terms of what it can do, but is limited in some ways. Like others I also have Weather and Diary running on J Wrights WM6. There is a very slight time lag on Pocket Plus but that's about it.
They are the first programs I install on a hard reset / upgrade
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Anybody use the new version of SPB Pocketplus 3.0 - loaded features - but what abot the lingering problems? Still there ?
I have the version 3, I had it since beta. I have to say that it does clean up your screen nicely as now everything can be tabbed. From Weather to pocket Plus to GPRS Monitor and the Diary.
I don't see much use for remapping the buttons as most of that can be done in the native app that comes with the PPC and the addition of the Safe Mode is a nice touch. I don't see any speed issues and so far I must say I have been quite happy with it.
Thanks sZamot,
I read in the SPB doc's - this allows you to finally install it on Main Memory or Storage...unlike the earlier versions..
Where did you install the it? Sorage or Main ?
I installed SPB Pocket plus 3.0 in Storage and works with no problem. Indeed, Safe mode is good to have, and it's nice that i can monitor storage card and storage (in 2.5 version only Main Memory could be viewed).
Wow!
Thats good...just downloading the 15days trial version...will try out and see...
Thanks Guys..
Rgs/DD
I installed it main memory, but come to think of it I will put it to storage. I won't put it to The SD card because I sometimes swap those as I take differnt movies or mp3 with me. I will do it now and see if it jives.
There's a comprehensive review of PocketPlus 3 on Tekguru
Come to think of it, once I installed it to the internal storage it run like ****. Not only was it solw but I would have to switch a tab before my calendar would show up. Even with a single day view it was slow.
I just installed the 15 day trial of Pocketplus v3.0...Works good on my IIs but one problem I noticed is that when replying to a text msg, my device sends 2X....
heres how it does this on my device.... after replying to a message an envelope icon appears and the message "message sent", but it doesnt dissapear as it shoul, and when I click on the icon again, another "message sent" message appears!!!!...Im now thinking of uninstalling the program
2 phat all you need to do is set tmail as an exception to the close option on spb plus as with the other versions works a treat for me
pen6uin said:
2 phat all you need to do is set tmail as an exception to the close option on spb plus as with the other versions works a treat for me
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Thanks pen6uin, but I unistalled it yesterday after my post and installed 02 plus...Ill try to install it again and do what you say... Thanks again mate!
gr8 software
hi..
maybe the best thing in spbp+ 3.0 is that it runs on magneto.....though it ran better on my 2.20 CHS(safe mode don't seem to work in magneto),but it's gr8.... :lol:
the best thing is that i can open multiple pages on my PIE,save images,choose whether i close all the opened windows or only the opened one on my explorer....
the gr8 thing that it supports plugins,almost everything u need,whether,finance,player for music files,folder plugin that includes ur favorite files,and even live clock on today screen(coming soon).
it's faster(at least that's what spb site say),and best of all,there's an iconset software wich let u choose ur icon from an even bigger library
NB:there a cab file in this site for spbp+ 3.0 full version(search is on ur up left)......enjoy it...
RAGO
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RAGOv said:
hi..
maybe the best thing in spbp+ 3.0 is that it runs on magneto...
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Yep, I agree. But I experienced a problem with sbp diary on magneto.
selecting "options", the option screen does not actually appear - which makes diary useless.
Anyone else noticed that?
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hi..
maybe the best thing in spbp+ 3.0 is that it runs on magneto...
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Yep, I agree. But I experienced a problem with sbp diary on magneto.
selecting "options", the option screen does not actually appear - which makes diary useless.
Anyone else noticed that?
SPB Pocket plus 3.0
I installed SPB Pocket plus 3.0 it works with no problem.
IMHO: The program is TOO BIG and not useful...
If you want small and free SafeMode go to: http://www.monocube.com/
Also see this: http://www.monocube.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=61&sid=1
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RAGOv said:
hi..
maybe the best thing in spbp+ 3.0 is that it runs on magneto...
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Yep, I agree. But I experienced a problem with sbp diary on magneto.
selecting "options", the option screen does not actually appear - which makes diary useless.
Anyone else noticed that?
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yea ur right my friend MapisM i did'nt noticed this problem when i wrote my post :wink:
anyway it would be gr8 if the options in spb diary will work in magneto so am working on the problem....
i played with the registry with no use so i thought the file itself don't work.
i've localized(it's so simple)the spb diary options.exe file,and tried to run it from its location,but it seems that its not working...
now what i need 2 know is if someone is using spb diary succesfully(options is working) on another OS(2003-2003se)....
thanx for noticing bro....still i find the software gr8...
RAGO
thanx NicolaPr for the link,i'll check it out right now [/quote]
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RAGOv said:
thanx for noticing bro....still i find the software gr8...
RAGO
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U r welcome, thanks to you for trying to find a solution!
Unfortunately, I don't have another device where testing the behaviour with another OS, and can't flash mine back and forth, 'cause I need it for work.
...besides, I looove Buzzmobile5 too much to even think of returning to 2003!
All the best for your tests, though probably also sbp will fix that soon...
Am using SPB 3.0 Licenced with today plugin of SPB Diary (Trial) and SPB Weather (Trial) and also SPB Finance (Trial - but not using today plugin) on XDA IIs
1. The "Option" works fine on my unit with SPB Diary, weather and SPB3.0 - No issues there.
2. I did notice one thing though - if you use your unit and havent booted like say for a day/two - you realize you main memory reduces - i.e when i stated off i had appx 71mb running with no softwares..after a fresh boot...
Even without using much softwares - after a whole day - i noticed the memory down at 62MB ! Thats nearly 10MB Gone and no sign of anything running ! - I re-boot the unite and Lo be-hold - Get my 10MB back !
Memory leak ! can anyone confirm this ? Is it due to SPB ? Dont know for sure...Speed slows down after a long term use...must soft-reset to bring things back to normal !
Integration between Weather and Diary as TABS is beautiful - no issues so far. Speed or contents within the tabs come up on the fly...
SPB is memory hungry - thats for sure - how much they really improved - is just a matter of debate...it has become better - but if you can live with these issues - a great software to have on the unit!
Rgs/DD
yes, devdarshan... u r right..
spb pocket plus is causing the memory to fragment... i need to do a soft reset every 2-3 days to get back the working memory.
IMO, its the close program option which is closing the program but not releasing the full memory occupied by the program.
instead of the close option on spb plus, i'd revert back to DTSysView to close all the running programs, and then see if the memory loss is still there or not.
Hello, After trying out some of the Spb software I want to purchase some of the applications, however I have some questions first.
This are the applications I want to get:
GPRS Monitor
FS Keyboard.
Phone Suite
Mobile Shell
Time
Weather
Pocket Plus
Now the thing is some of these applications overlap, and provide the same or very similar functions.
For example, Pocket Plus, Mobile Shell, and Phone Suite.
In pocket plus I only use the Close button alteration to be able to configure behavior depending on application.
So buying the entire Suite seems silly.
On Mobile Shell I use the Application Launcher and Photo Dialer.
I want to get the Weather and Time application seperatly, so will not use the built in function.
Although I do use the integration of them to have them on the tab, So to see current weather on the Tab.
Last is the Phone suite, on that I use everything except the Photo Dialer since it is built in to Mobile Shell.
But as far as I can see it, buying the pocket Plus and the Mobile shell, seams silly both in terms of Memory usage and Price, when I only use 1 or 2 features of it.
For example I could drop Pocket Plus, if some other application provides the Close button alteration.
Click to Close, Gesture to minimize, and Click and hold for advanced options/Application Switching, and individual settings for applications.
I could use the Phone suite Photo Dialer, but I still use the Tabs from Mobile Shell to integrate Application Launcher/Battery indicator, Time and weather.
I really don't like the type of tabs Pocket plus gives, I like much better the way Mobile Shell does it, with auto hiding and Icons.
Well do you guys have some nice suggestions?
Regards.
Brian.
Well off the top of my heap I can't think of any applications apart from Pocket Plus that offers the close button alterations to the level that you are talking so it’s a very hard one, it's just whether you are willing to pay the extra for a few more features which will make your device extra user friendly. I will see if I can find anything else, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Well, that feature of SPB plus is really nice.
I have some experience in programming in VB, but never for Pocket PC, so was thinking about making one my self if none exists.
But then again I have not used Windows on my Desktop since Windows XP SP2 came out.
And I'm not sure if it is possible to develop Pocket PC applications on Linux.
But I keep my hope up that someone out there has already made an alternative.
I find it really strange that for so long, MS has not implemented it them self, I really sometime wonder if they even use Windows Mobile them self.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283658
Is the HTC X-button app which does the close function correctly. Comes as standard on the Artermis and a few others, but HTC have released this as a seperate app.
Hope this save you some cash as it is also free !
I know the HTC app, However it is far from Advanced enough.
The HTC app changes so that when using the button it closes app instead of hiding.
you can also configure that it closes when push and hold and minimize when only short tap.
However the Spb hack makes it much more advanced.
Tap=Close.
Drag down=Minimize.
Push and Hold=Open a menu to choose what to do (including swithing between applications.
Additionaly it has a very nice feature where you can tell it to always minimize certain applications, instead of closing them.
I use this for Messenger, Core Player and Skype.
Very handy.
Version 1.5 of X-button does all that, you set it up so that you get;
tap = minimize
tap & Hold = Close
Menu on today screen allows for task switching and closing of apps without going into them.
Settings allow for identifying applications which are excluded from x-button.
Also check out the new Version of HTC Home. I used spb mobile shell and phone suite and weather, now I just use this one application, with considerably less of a memory footprint. This is also Free.
Spb software used to be great, but they are lagging behind now in my opinion, and need to stop charging for multiple applications that do overlapping tasks.
HTC Home here
X-Button 1.5 here
Thanks, I will try and have a look at them.
Btw, the link for HTC Home did not work, but found it by doing a search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314241&highlight=HTC+Home
SPB Phone Suite has two major advantages to me: 1. Phone Profiles (switch to vibration while on the meeting and at night) and 2. Photo Dialer.
It does not seem like HTC Home plugin covers those areas.
I wonder if there is another app which can possibly do these two native phone functions better than SPB Phone Suite. So far I don't see alternatives
Well, after some searching I found Photo Contacts PRO 5 http://www.pocketx.net/products/photocontactspro_ppc/index.html but somehow I don't like how it looks. And also it takes too much space of my Today screen which I don't like. Probably I'm going to keep SPB Phone Suite.
Konstantin
konste said:
SPB Phone Suite has two major advantages to me: 1. Phone Profiles (switch to vibration while on the meeting and at night) and 2. Photo Dialer.
It does not seem like HTC Home plugin covers those areas.
Konstantin
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Hmmm, think you should look again, my HTC Home has a home tab, with the clock and missed messages / calls indicators/ buttons, a favourite person tab with space for 9 photo contacts, a weather tab, an application launcher tab, and a phone profile tab with selectable profiles of normal- silent - vibrate only- and automatic (vibrate in meetings)
OK, So I tried t install HTC Home and the HTC X-Button 1.5.
Well the Home plug-in looks very nice!, unfortunatly my device slow with this version.
My rom already has the HTC TaskManager v1.5 which, from as far as I can see on screenshots, have the same functionality as the X-Button 1.5.
But I can't find anywhere to set individual application preferences, and also not the minimize on geasture thing.
But in lack of other, For now, I will proably go with the HTC Taskmanager.
Together with Spb Phone suite and Spb Mobile Shell, at least there is discount when buying multiple products.
Thanks for the advice guys.
I searched but didn't find anything on this...
With the pending launch of the Fuze on ATT, I am really considering making the switch.
Of course, I depend on a full slate of third party apps including PI8, Core Player, Pocket Breeze and Pocket Weather. Yes, I understand that I'll have to turn of Touch Flo to run plug-in apps like these and phoneAlarm. I wonder what impact the VGA has.
Are there apps you used on your Kaiser, that you can't use on your Touch Pro because of the screen resolution?
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I searched but didn't find anything on this...
With the pending launch of the Fuze on ATT, I am really considering making the switch.
Of course, I depend on a full slate of third party apps including PI8, Core Player, Pocket Breeze and Pocket Weather. Yes, I understand that I'll have to turn of Touch Flo to run plug-in apps like these and phoneAlarm. I wonder what impact the VGA has.
Are there apps you used on your Kaiser, that you can't use on your Touch Pro because of the screen resolution?
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Not many. I'd say the only apps you can't run are Skyfire and very pelicular business related apps. Like a CAD app I saw somewhere for PPC.
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Not many. I'd say the only apps you can't run are Skyfire and very pelicular business related apps. Like a CAD app I saw somewhere for PPC.
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skyfire works fine its just when you switch from landscape to portrait there are problems. if you leave it whichever direction you start it in its ok
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skyfire works fine its just when you switch from landscape to portrait there are problems. if you leave it whichever direction you start it in its ok
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Really? From the skyfire forums, I've gathered that it only runs on a quarter of the screen for vga devices.
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Really? From the skyfire forums, I've gathered that it only runs on a quarter of the screen for vga devices.
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somsone posted on here that it worked
i most certainly coudl be wrong though. they need to hurry up and do a vga version especially since the beta is now open
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Are there apps you used on your Kaiser, that you can't use on your Touch Pro because of the screen resolution?
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For me there wasn't!
I even us an extremely old IP calculator which was written for windows mobile 2003 and it works like a charm. Which is good because I couldn't find any other IP calculator ;-)
IMO you will be very unlucky nower days to suffer from apps that are not displaying right on the new screen size...
I remember of the days of the ipaq 4700's.... now that was painful as it was one of the first devices (bar Toshiba) that used a res different than 320x240.
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I'm tryingto decide which app is better. I have tried both but they both seem to have their ups and downs. I don't have the space to have both so I thought I ask you guys what you think would be best if you had to choose one.
Thoughts?
I am not happy with either of them. I use spb pocket plus instead. Very happy with that. You can customize whatever way you like it. To be very honest, I tested all the today screen customizers but didn't suite my taste except spb pocket plus.
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I am not happy with either of them. I use spb pocket plus instead. Very happy with that. You can customize whatever way you like it. To be very honest, I tested all the today screen customizers but didn't suite my taste except spb pocket plus.
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Thanks for the reply. I've looked at Pocket Plus in the past and wasn't too excited about it. It seemed it was lacking. In what ways were you able to customize it?
This question, as many other questions, is completely individual. spb shell isn't "better" than m2d.. and neither is the other way around.
they're different.
if you're looking for something extremely customizable, which you have to play with in order to have exactly what you want, you can try Ultimate Launch with something like FEWidgets.. you can find many skins for SPB Mobile Shell in the forum, or use WAD2 which has many many skins in here as well.
if you want something more straightforward. m2d/tf3d/throttlelauncher...
it all depends.
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Thanks for the reply. I've looked at Pocket Plus in the past and wasn't too excited about it. It seemed it was lacking. In what ways were you able to customize it?
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Thanks admiral! In what way lacking? May be you have used older versions?
You can have multiple tabs. You can put all your programs and settings there. You can put your today's plug inns any where in any tab if you have no place in home. You can use any theme. It adds many functions to other programs like IE, Zip, windows explorer. The tabs are self hiding. It is very simple to operate. You need not be ppc geek.What else you want?
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This question, as many other questions, is completely individual. spb shell isn't "better" than m2d.. and neither is the other way around.
they're different.
if you're looking for something extremely customizable, which you have to play with in order to have exactly what you want, you can try Ultimate Launch with something like FEWidgets.. you can find many skins for SPB Mobile Shell in the forum, or use WAD2 which has many many skins in here as well.
if you want something more straightforward. m2d/tf3d/throttlelauncher...
it all depends.
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can tf3d be installed on lg ks20
Manila 2d is far better
Thanks for the reply. I have M2D .but sometimes when i come back from sleep mode i wont be able to go to today screen from Now screen. ... then i have to reset the system or remove the battery any idea why this is happening
i think neither! Manilla 3d is good! I once had it running on my nike but can't remember how!
It is pointless to run manila3D on any device that doesn't have a fit GPU. it consumes TONS of power and is killed by a every small bug.
hi...can we use spb mobile shell as well as spb pocket plus on the same cell phone????
Also someone give me a link from were i can dwnlod spb pocket plus????
Hi again,
Thought I might shoot for 0 for 2...
Wondering if anyone can suggest a WM theme for xv6800 that does not suck a lot of memory, but which allows the use of fingers instead of the stylus. I've used the HTC Home theme, which is great as a today screen, but it doesn't help for anything else. Touchflo 2D was also awesome, but it kept crashing due to low memory (e.g., loading Opera mobile).
Any suggestions (aside from getting a new phone, since my new-every-two is about one year off ;( )
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Hi again,
Thought I might shoot for 0 for 2...
Wondering if anyone can suggest a WM theme for xv6800 that does not suck a lot of memory, but which allows the use of fingers instead of the stylus. I've used the HTC Home theme, which is great as a today screen, but it doesn't help for anything else. Touchflo 2D was also awesome, but it kept crashing due to low memory (e.g., loading Opera mobile).
Any suggestions (aside from getting a new phone, since my new-every-two is about one year off ;( )
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I would either stick with Titanium or of you are going to try and keep Manila, simply change the browser to something a little less memory hungry like Netfront Browser or the small (java) version of Opera Mini.