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Someone emailed me this link at PPCT, but didn't get to try it yet...
http://opera.dl2.vipserver.ru/winmobile/860/
Has a VZW version, too. :?:
Yeah, the long awaited update of Opera is out.
U can also find it here
and this time its a 30 day trial after which you would have to pay if you want to keep using the program.
Has anyone tested and could give an opinion?
I'm using at the moment, seems much the same as the previous beta.
Still regularly has the annoying 1-2 second lag between clicking a link and it actually doing anything, apart from that its all good.
I am finding it more buggy than the beta. It takes aaaaggggesss to start up too. No way will i buy buying this. The double space bug is fixed though.
I installed it on my SPV M3000 (HTC Wizard), and I'm not too glad with the result. Why?
-Yes, it takes a lot of time to load (about 30 seconds)
-Settings menu: nothing is written on the tabs, except "General" one!
-Settings menu: impossible to change the "Identify as..." (to Internet 6.0 for example)
Is it my installation or everyone got the same problems?
yes, i have bought it..its really fast on my BA running WM2003SE
also, very nice with the internet standards
kdskamal said:
yes, i have bought it..its really fast on my BA running WM2003SE
also, very nice with the internet standards
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Great, I'm glad for you.
Can you check if your settings look all right (Menu, Tools, settings) Can you see all the tabs properly?
yep its very fast and very useful but its not free thats the problem if anybody have cr**k ?
Dreadful
I ended up buying it and I am now totally p****d of with it. It takes around 10 seconds to load, when I am surfing the net and someone phones, it crashes. When I go into standby and reopen it, it crashes, and I have to click on a link several times before it will eventually work.
It is definitely not ready for release, they should of created another beta. Can anyone recommend any other decent browsers?
PIE Plus 2.0 from Reensoft is a nice plugin which makes PIE much nicer and more efficient.
Does someone know how to change the dll to be able to use Opera 8.6 with Imode HD as it was possible with previous version? :shock:
Hi all,
I am really disappointed with the performance of my Orbit 2. At least once a day, it slows down and eventually grinds to a halt - a problem I never had with the Artemis.
In particular he seems to hang when using the RSS Hub program (although I have tried numerous alternatives including News Gator and the SPB Insight). Sometimes accessing the Internet, or even creating an SMS causes the hang.
I have read through the tips in the forums here and recently upgraded the ROM to Bepe's 0.66, but still have the issues.
Is anyone else suffering from these problems? Any ideas for possible fixes?
Tim
Nope. I have over 30 apps installed a couple of today screen plug-ins and the TC runs just fine. Perhaps you were not closing your applications (just minimizing)? Or maybe you needed to use a tool like MemMaid to clean your device?
I am using the stock rom.
On the stock ROM and use RSS Hub a lot. Can't say I ever had those problems either.
cant say i have a problem either
use quite a bit of software on a regular basis and i dont ever shut mine off or restart unless i want to escape my wife.....
NetFront is the culprit
OK following some further research (read "tearing hair out"), I believe I have found the culprit to be NetFront. This otherwise fantastic browser appears to hog CPU at around 99%.
Has anyone else noticed this behaviour with NetFront? Its a real shame as its by far the best browser I have found. Opera would be great but doesn't work with the HTC keypad. So next task is to find a decent browser!!
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OK following some further research (read "tearing hair out"), I believe I have found the culprit to be NetFront. This otherwise fantastic browser appears to hog CPU at around 99%.
Has anyone else noticed this behaviour with NetFront? Its a real shame as its by far the best browser I have found. Opera would be great but doesn't work with the HTC keypad. So next task is to find a decent browser!!
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Yep....it's a known issue. The problem is when Netfront is put into the background. If you continue to use it, just make sure you close (not minimize) it before leaving to go to another app or even your today screen.
Hmm.. I'm the only one who found a weird issue in landscape mode while dragging?
I've recorded a video. Both in landscape and portrait mode. Portrait mode is ok..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8_fbUfVRZg
(see right upper corner)
First I was thinking that's a Opera fault.
I've tried 3 different ROMs, 2 Opera versions.
I've encounter this in all browsers, Google Maps...
... If none replied, I conclude that's just mine .
I've got something similar as in older pocketPCs (I don't know how to call this, diagonal sync bug?!). Comparison with HTC Himalaya scrolling in Internet Explorer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5nK4XcsBjo
(chose "watch in normal quality")
Later edit: it seems that's a general issue?! because I've got 3 more confirmations (1 from a TP user and 2 from diamond users). And nobody talks about it...
Come on.. really nobody feels this redraw issue?
This delay does not appear just on dragging. It appears also on menu popups and it's not limited to that.
See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwCKeiQiZEk
You are not alone. I have the same redraw issue. I have already reported it to HTC Support. But they do not answer my requests. I have already issued four service requests, but no answer so far.
I will report it later, still colecting information. More users (on other forum) have this issue. I think they didn't even observed it till I posted those videos.
For example, Samsung Omnia doesn't have this issue. So i guess it's a driver issue..
I have a few issues with this.
1. Opera sometimes takes ages to redraw (showing the white and grey chequered background in between)
2. When it isn't doing this, the page often tears in diagonals
3. If I have MP3's playing on TCPMP, the music jerks or stops completely whilst I scroll in Opera. It's fine again once I stop scrolling though
Also happens on Diamond
You're definitely not alone, I've got the exact same behavior when using Opera in landscape mode.
It has persisted through several different radio, rom, and opera versions. Unfortunately I didn't really notice it before I HardSPL'd and loaded my first rom, so I can't say if the original OEM setup did it as well.
Honestly I'd be more surprised if someone came forward and said that theirs DIDN'T do it.
just picked up my fuze
it does it
Thank you guys for replies!
Just test http://clickgamer.com/download.htm?pvid=15358 (fre trial) and you'll see how smooth are all the stuffs NOT.
Laso, there are games suffering from "music gap" (call of duty, obulis tse... haven't tried so many games). All graphics suffer of lag or bad refresh/redraw.
So, it may be:
- sh*ty crappy qualcomm chipsets
OR
- bad drivers
It seems that history repeats (see htc tytn ii graphics related issue).
What to do?
- Contact HTC.. tell them about this... and if they do not care, then http://www.htcclassaction.org/ should add new devices in the "portofolio".
Lags here, lags there, lags everywhere (gps lag, system lag aka poor performance when playing music, graphics lag, bla bla..)
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Later edit: it seems that's a general issue?! because I've got 3 more confirmations (1 from a TP user and 2 from diamond users). And nobody talks about it...
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I think it still breaks down to some video driver problem where it's not respecting the vertical blank interval somehow when redrawing the screen. This means you end up seeing the previous and next, and next and next, picture being drawn at the same time. It happens on the Kaiser too.
i've also noticed the problem. I'm glad you brought up this thread cuz I was starting to get worried. Has any of you gone back to the store and checked if any new ones still do this?
just came back from exchanging my fuze. the new one also has the same problem. looks like it's a universal problem. most likely due to driver. hope this help.
Thank you guys for the feedback. At first I was thinking that I've got a defective unit.. but now it's more clearer to me (& others in the same situation), here we got a general issue. HTC TyTN II has this issue too. Samsung Omnia doesn't have it. I really cannot understand htc after ..
Strange that people in general don't talk/care about this issue. Before buying the TP i've read/watch some reviews and none of the authors said anything about this. They just praise touch pro
I wish that HTc actually work and fix this.. i really whish.. I've send an e-mail - no response yet. You should try too..
I'm using the sprint touch pro and i have this problem too. I did infact notice it, but i just didn't think it was that big of an issue... if its affecting other programs than it is a big problem than.
Foolish of me to think htc got their drivers working on this thing... i also think the video acceleration is terrible
Ok soon after you raised the issue I tested and couldn't reproduce it with my factory (3 - Australia) rom.
As soon as I updated it to RomeOS and used Opera I got the drag issue. I am not sure if its to do with the Opera provided in the RomeOS rom or the rom itself.
Try landscape in other programs. Also try the Samsung Omnia drivers (which do work with TP). I don't have a TP as yet.
I also noticed this little issue. But haven't really looked into it as of yet. Anyone tried converting dvd movies to fit on your fuze and see if it happens ? I am gonna try that.
Wow...I' was going crazy with the same issue!!!
Tryied:
-HardSPL: Olinex 1.37/1.93 and Jocky 1.24
-Radio: .05/.07/.08
-Rom: Panosha 1.9/shimple0.8, Dutty 2/3.1 SwiftBL 7.5, Swtos Vanilla1.0/1.1/1.5/, Wildberry.....
Always the same matter...
I was beginning to think that the real problem is relate to an hardware fault...and finally, today, I've found this thread...so:
NO WAYS TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE?!
I think it's really ugly to see our screen like a church fractal glass...
PS: I've got a Diamond.
No solution yet! .
@intothevoid movies aren't affected by this annoying redraw issue. you got poor results if you try to play movies at full resolution DIVX/XVID...*, but that's another thingy..
*for better results you can try coreplayer 1.2.5 with Qtv and Middle quality (on High it lags). However, even on middle quality, on action scenes, you will get some dropped frames.
@nuke1 tried that. ATI driver too. But that's for D3D, so, useless..
@fawaad this was and is present also on the oficial rom and every ROM I've tried.
Anyohow, from what I've understood, you exclude the chance of an hardware issue...right?
This sounds and looks to me like a simple Sync to VBlank issue (i.e. video is updating at 60 hz and lcd is updating at 59.97 hz, and syncing is not occuring so you see this 'tearing')
If that is the case, it's gonna require a driver update from HTC.. Anyone with a tilt knows how quick HTC is to hand drivers out..
Samsung Omnia doesn't suffer from this because they are accelerating more functions in their 2d drivers. HTC seems to use the equivilant of Windows 95/98/XP/Vista's default VGA video card driver (which if you've ever used it, does not accelerate anything but the most basic functions, and performs similarly)
hey guys, i was thoroughly disappointed with opera mobiles performance.. it really sucked (for me at least). Page would take a long time to open, and the windows would move all over the place while the page was loading, etc. Anyways, i finally decided to download opera mini and its a world of a difference, its amazing! however to do it correctly, follow this guys advise:
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/running-opera-mini-41-on-windows-mobile-2/
dont just go to operamini.com and download the version they tell you, because then you have to agree to that message everytime you go to a page. if you do it the way this guy says, you only have to give permission the first time you open opera. he also shows you a way to have it as a program, eliminating the need to open the jbed java app to launch from there.
another thing i did, is because our device is vga, the font was small. i set it to extra large, and its very good. even the scrolling is much better on the mini version, and ITS MUCH FASTER!! i cant emphasize the last one enough. anyways, just wanted to let u guys know, good luck
ps: also, something that is huge for me, typing something into a webpage is also much better now. on opera mobile, i would have to try to fit the screen size so i can see what i'm typing; with opera mini, it opens a new window for you to t ype in, it's like your typing in word or something. makes a huge difference IMO
omar
I couldn't agree more.
Unless something is wrong with just my phone, I can't see how anyone would like Opera Mobile.
Just open any forum page here. Probably takes 20-30 seconds to load on Opera Mobile on a fast Wifi connection...and that's after it takes 5-10 seconds to just load up.
Do it on Opera Mini and it takes maybe 2 on a 1x connection, even.
Opera Mini doesn't have tabs, but you are saving so much time elsewhere, that's livable.
It also runs through a proxy, so I guess you could get stale pages or https stuff won't work great.
But, for 95% of the browsing I do, Mini works perfectly and is unbelievably fast and it's clear on the vga screen.
I also chose Extra Large fonts.
If you decide to use Opera Mini, here's a way to make it the "default" for opening links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384271
Have you guys tried the newer version of Skyfire? If so, do you like Mini better?
ya i use mini much more than mobile
btw just download this zip, extract cab and install it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=113596&d=1221663410
it will ask if u want to make mini default browser...also installs java if u dont have it.
i change my image quality to high and font to biggest settings
I'm using UCWEB6 and I'm quite satisfied. Fast enough, tabbed browsing, easy to use..
yeah, im done using opera mobile, mini works so good!
i also use piscel and sometimes skyfire if im next to an ac jack... ill use ie just as i do on desktop, BUSINESS ONLY!
I used Opera Mobile for about a minute....
Help: I am having a problem with Mini not fully loading pages and getting white screens. I have Jbed 2.1 (read it was better than the newest version) and the newest Mini. Any advise?
I love the speed of Mini (thanks for posting the download link), but even on extra large the text is very very small. Is there a way to make it show up bigger?
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I'm using UCWEB6 and I'm quite satisfied. Fast enough, tabbed browsing, easy to use..
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Are you using the generic version? Seems like UCWEB6 was made for Nokia devices not HTC
Another opera mini fan here, the fastest browser I have used, that includes skyfire. Only issue is lack of tabs, but otherwise its great
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Are you using the generic version? Seems like UCWEB6 was made for Nokia devices not HTC
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No, I'm using this one. It says ppc2003 but it's working fine on all my devices, supports both VGA and QVGA
im using a mix of ucweb and operamini.. loving it. the only thing wrong with this phone is the lack of softkeys.. makes browsing with mini a little harder..
I've been using the "vga" version of skyfire since it came out, and I love it for its full browsing experience, speed, and ability to watch video in the browser.
Thank you for this thread!
I never used opera mini before and I was amazed by it's speed. It's not going to be my default browser (that's still PIE because I almost only view sites which are optimized for mobile devices) but it's absolutely perfect for viewing this forum for example!
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No, I'm using this one. It says ppc2003 but it's working fine on all my devices, supports both VGA and QVGA
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This crashed for me. Whole device froze up.
Opera Mobile.. it's just CRAP compared to Opera Mini.
CONS Opera Mobile:
- load time (HTC/Opera cheat by preloading Opera at StartUp)
- lots of squares while dragging
- many times while you drag the stupid software cannot make difference between dragging and tapping
- if you drag the page and the page is still loading, you are dropped to other position that you are.. this is so annoying.. you have to drag again or wait until all the page elements are loaded by the browser
So, Opera Mini is very good on the majority of sites. (there are problem with the pages with many images, it cannot handle all of them).
I'm using a VGA version of jbed and I don't have problem with font size ANYMORE.
Big thanks to trueg. Get it from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2973176&postcount=23
if i'm not mistaken, the reason why opera mini is so fast is because the pages are actually cached or pre-processed by Opera servers and then sent to you. with Opera mobile, you connect to the website directly.
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This crashed for me. Whole device froze up.
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That's very strange. It works great on my Blueangel, Wizard, Universal, Trinity and Raphael with all the custom roms I have installed on them and with the shipped rom on the Raphael the first day I got it.
Try installing on the SD card or the device memory, whichever you haven't tried.
Still have to say yes
Anyone else having issues with still having to click yes every time you try and go to a site? If I exit and open, the first time I try to open I get this annoying request. Followed the directions exactly and had no problems?
Also can't seem to browse with this on wifi, anyone else having this issue?
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Anyone else having issues with still having to click yes every time you try and go to a site?
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Yes, I have the same issue. But since I just have to click ok once in every session it's ok for me.
Ok forgive me for actually posting a new thread. I am about to give up on the fuze and thought I would try to ask a few questions first.
Background: I was an early adopter of winmo phones (had a Wallaby, Alpine, Hermes, gave up on a kaiser and went finally to a Nokia n95 until my current trials with the iphone and the fuze) Frankly, before I was the mom of three kids I could manage to keep up with the technology, but now it all might be more than I can handle. You tell me if these are stupid questions I should know the answer to already.
I tried the iphone for 30 days, loved the out of the box ease of use but couldn't believe there was no voice dialing, cut and paste, video, etc. Now I am trying the fuze.
I managed to load up energy rom 3.0 the first day I got it, so that is what I am running. It is beautiful.
Problems:
-lower screen flicker (looked it up, changing to less than optimal brightness does not stop this from happening intermittently)
-youtube wont run (says there is not enough storage space to run - req 8mb - but I have more than 12 free)
-Even though I have it set not to delete my email off the server, it does. Then each time it connects it deletes ALL my mail off the phone. This appears to be a new problem, but a big one.
-browsing is clunky with IE and opera. Can I run safari on this thing because it worked great on the iphone - much more smooth and quick on the att network (sorry, true).
-finally found a storage card that the phone could actually see. Now I am wondering if there is an easy way to move all sorts of files over to the card. Are all files safe to move to the card? Can I move programs? Can I move my more than 300 contacts over there?
-google maps finds me in budapest more often than Austin TX (where I really am) what gives with that?
- I do miss that nice big screen on the iphone. So when is the fuze 2 really going to get here? Anyone think it is worth waiting for? This fuze is costing me a 2 year contract and I could wait...
Thank you in advance! I have spent hours in this forum trying to find answers to my questions. Now I am just asking and I hope I won't be flamed out of existence.
D
I don't think I can answer all your questions but I'll have a go
-lower screen flicker (looked it up, changing to less than optimal brightness does not stop this from happening intermittently)
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I read that pulling out the battery for a little while and letting the phone rest helped this. I haven't tried and it doesn't bother me enough to want to. I don't think there's a solution though...
-youtube wont run (says there is not enough storage space to run - req 8mb - but I have more than 12 free)
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I haven't installed the youtube app to test yet but do you really only have 12mb free? the phone has over 300mb of storage, at least on some ROMs.
-Even though I have it set not to delete my email off the server, it does. Then each time it connects it deletes ALL my mail off the phone. This appears to be a new problem, but a big one.
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Which e-mail do you use? I haven't had any problems like this using gmail. It's possible you need to look in your e-mail settings online to see if they are set to keep e-mails on the server as well. If you're using POP mail that's a possibility. I use IMAP on gmail which functions very well, even marking e-mails you read on the phone as read online.
-browsing is clunky with IE and opera. Can I run safari on this thing because it worked great on the iphone - much more smooth and quick on the att network (sorry, true).
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You can try www.skyfire.com or Iris http://www.torchmobile.com/download/download2.php
Skyfire works great for me, I haven't tried Iris yet but it uses Webkit which is what the iPhone's Safari browser uses
-finally found a storage card that the phone could actually see. Now I am wondering if there is an easy way to move all sorts of files over to the card. Are all files safe to move to the card? Can I move programs? Can I move my more than 300 contacts over there?
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You can install programs to the storage card, but I don't recommend moving them manually. The registry still thinks the programs are on the phone storage. Other files such as music or pictures should be fine though. You can set your camera to take pictures to the card as well. I don't think you can store your contacts on the memory card, why would you need to? Contacts are nothing more than text, surely they aren't taking up much memory at all.
-google maps finds me in budapest more often than Austin TX (where I really am) what gives with that?
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That's an interesting problem. It sounds like the GPS doesn't have a full lock, are you outside when doing this? Try running a program like QuickGPS to help the phone get a lock.
- I do miss that nice big screen on the iphone. So when is the fuze 2 really going to get here? Anyone think it is worth waiting for? This fuze is costing me a 2 year contract and I could wait...
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The Touch Pro 2 is supposed to be out later this year on AT&T. Apparently it's out right now but that's the HTC branded version and it's almost $1000. It's a 3.6" screen at 480x800 resolution, that sounds pretty good compared to the iPhone to me. Running WM means it'll still be a resistive touch screen which means it will never be as fluid to use as the iPhone's is. Still, with an interface like TF3D or SPB Mobile Shell 3 you can enjoy swiping your finger just as much.
Hope I was helpful on some points
I suggest trying different ROMs. Not that there is anything wrong with the one you are using but each one suits different users differently. I am a fairly new user to winmo (about 6 months) and one thing that surprized me the most is how much research and time it takes to get the device working to my satisfaction. I love the fuze, I like to tinker and tweak things.
Resolution
Man, if you are having problem with EMAIL
just go to GMAIL
i cant believe the time i waste at hotmail....
I have the PRO and dont found a way to keep the emails at server, then, just go to GMAIL, configure to that (keep in server), and CONFIGURE: to gmail get the emails from HOTMAIL. Well, im so happy when i saw that option!
Now im much more happy with my htc touch pro as email stuffs
dsajadea said:
-youtube wont run (says there is not enough storage space to run - req 8mb - but I have more than 12 free)
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is a known bug if you change the wallpaper in tf3d... have you done this? i saw roms where this bug is fixed but i dont find a cab or reg key to change it back...???
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-youtube wont run (says there is not enough storage space to run - req 8mb - but I have more than 12 free)
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Install the attached cab to fix this (named after jmckeejr, the person who found the fix. I'm just the "cab man", lol)
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-browsing is clunky with IE and opera. Can I run safari on this thing because it worked great on the iphone - much more smooth and quick on the att network (sorry, true).
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I'm using Opera Build 16643, and my browsing experience is very smooth. Perhaps you haven't found the right version of Opera?
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-google maps finds me in budapest more often than Austin TX (where I really am) what gives with that?
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Don't know about this one. Perhaps try installing the attached cab I made for myself, and it may help? (this enables aGPS, if it isn't already, so if you don't have a data plan, you'll need to go into Settings & disable it)
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Thank you in advance! I have spent hours in this forum trying to find answers to my questions. Now I am just asking and I hope I won't be flamed out of existence.
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We don't flame people who provide details about their problems/concerns, who search first, and who aren't militant about getting a response.
I hope something I provided helps.
In regards to the GPS problem with your location, tap the clock on the homescreen and make sure it has your timezone selected as your "Home City". Google Maps uses this as a default location just to speed up GPS fix time.
If the setting is correct, go to Start -> Settings -> Clocks and Alarms and make sure your city is selected there too, since this is a somewhat known bug in the newer version of TouchFlo3d v2 (sometimes called TF3D2, extracted from the HTC Topaz and Rhodium).
For your browsing experience, check out the new version of Opera Mobile 9.7 -- turn on Turbo Mode and it's SO FAST! I'm loving it, even my friends with iPhones are jealous
I hope this helps you somehow