Which is better? Manila 2D or SPB Mobile Shell? - General Questions and Answers

I'm tryingto decide which app is better. I have tried both but they both seem to have their ups and downs. I don't have the space to have both so I thought I ask you guys what you think would be best if you had to choose one.
Thoughts?

I am not happy with either of them. I use spb pocket plus instead. Very happy with that. You can customize whatever way you like it. To be very honest, I tested all the today screen customizers but didn't suite my taste except spb pocket plus.

mirchichamu said:
I am not happy with either of them. I use spb pocket plus instead. Very happy with that. You can customize whatever way you like it. To be very honest, I tested all the today screen customizers but didn't suite my taste except spb pocket plus.
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Thanks for the reply. I've looked at Pocket Plus in the past and wasn't too excited about it. It seemed it was lacking. In what ways were you able to customize it?

This question, as many other questions, is completely individual. spb shell isn't "better" than m2d.. and neither is the other way around.
they're different.
if you're looking for something extremely customizable, which you have to play with in order to have exactly what you want, you can try Ultimate Launch with something like FEWidgets.. you can find many skins for SPB Mobile Shell in the forum, or use WAD2 which has many many skins in here as well.
if you want something more straightforward. m2d/tf3d/throttlelauncher...
it all depends.

GrandAdmiral said:
Thanks for the reply. I've looked at Pocket Plus in the past and wasn't too excited about it. It seemed it was lacking. In what ways were you able to customize it?
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Thanks admiral! In what way lacking? May be you have used older versions?
You can have multiple tabs. You can put all your programs and settings there. You can put your today's plug inns any where in any tab if you have no place in home. You can use any theme. It adds many functions to other programs like IE, Zip, windows explorer. The tabs are self hiding. It is very simple to operate. You need not be ppc geek.What else you want?

nir36 said:
This question, as many other questions, is completely individual. spb shell isn't "better" than m2d.. and neither is the other way around.
they're different.
if you're looking for something extremely customizable, which you have to play with in order to have exactly what you want, you can try Ultimate Launch with something like FEWidgets.. you can find many skins for SPB Mobile Shell in the forum, or use WAD2 which has many many skins in here as well.
if you want something more straightforward. m2d/tf3d/throttlelauncher...
it all depends.
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can tf3d be installed on lg ks20

Manila 2d is far better

Thanks for the reply. I have M2D .but sometimes when i come back from sleep mode i wont be able to go to today screen from Now screen. ... then i have to reset the system or remove the battery any idea why this is happening

i think neither! Manilla 3d is good! I once had it running on my nike but can't remember how!

It is pointless to run manila3D on any device that doesn't have a fit GPU. it consumes TONS of power and is killed by a every small bug.

hi...can we use spb mobile shell as well as spb pocket plus on the same cell phone????
Also someone give me a link from were i can dwnlod spb pocket plus????

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SPB Pocketplus 3.0 - Anybody use it?

Anybody use the new version of SPB Pocketplus 3.0 - loaded features - but what abot the lingering problems? Still there ?
I have the version 3, I had it since beta. I have to say that it does clean up your screen nicely as now everything can be tabbed. From Weather to pocket Plus to GPRS Monitor and the Diary.
I don't see much use for remapping the buttons as most of that can be done in the native app that comes with the PPC and the addition of the Safe Mode is a nice touch. I don't see any speed issues and so far I must say I have been quite happy with it.
Thanks sZamot,
I read in the SPB doc's - this allows you to finally install it on Main Memory or Storage...unlike the earlier versions..
Where did you install the it? Sorage or Main ?
I installed SPB Pocket plus 3.0 in Storage and works with no problem. Indeed, Safe mode is good to have, and it's nice that i can monitor storage card and storage (in 2.5 version only Main Memory could be viewed).
Wow!
Thats good...just downloading the 15days trial version...will try out and see...
Thanks Guys..
Rgs/DD
I installed it main memory, but come to think of it I will put it to storage. I won't put it to The SD card because I sometimes swap those as I take differnt movies or mp3 with me. I will do it now and see if it jives.
There's a comprehensive review of PocketPlus 3 on Tekguru
Come to think of it, once I installed it to the internal storage it run like ****. Not only was it solw but I would have to switch a tab before my calendar would show up. Even with a single day view it was slow.
I just installed the 15 day trial of Pocketplus v3.0...Works good on my IIs but one problem I noticed is that when replying to a text msg, my device sends 2X....
heres how it does this on my device.... after replying to a message an envelope icon appears and the message "message sent", but it doesnt dissapear as it shoul, and when I click on the icon again, another "message sent" message appears!!!!...Im now thinking of uninstalling the program
2 phat all you need to do is set tmail as an exception to the close option on spb plus as with the other versions works a treat for me
pen6uin said:
2 phat all you need to do is set tmail as an exception to the close option on spb plus as with the other versions works a treat for me
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Thanks pen6uin, but I unistalled it yesterday after my post and installed 02 plus...Ill try to install it again and do what you say... Thanks again mate!
gr8 software
hi..
maybe the best thing in spbp+ 3.0 is that it runs on magneto.....though it ran better on my 2.20 CHS(safe mode don't seem to work in magneto),but it's gr8.... :lol:
the best thing is that i can open multiple pages on my PIE,save images,choose whether i close all the opened windows or only the opened one on my explorer....
the gr8 thing that it supports plugins,almost everything u need,whether,finance,player for music files,folder plugin that includes ur favorite files,and even live clock on today screen(coming soon).
it's faster(at least that's what spb site say),and best of all,there's an iconset software wich let u choose ur icon from an even bigger library
NB:there a cab file in this site for spbp+ 3.0 full version(search is on ur up left)......enjoy it...
RAGO
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RAGOv said:
hi..
maybe the best thing in spbp+ 3.0 is that it runs on magneto...
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Yep, I agree. But I experienced a problem with sbp diary on magneto.
selecting "options", the option screen does not actually appear - which makes diary useless.
Anyone else noticed that?
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hi..
maybe the best thing in spbp+ 3.0 is that it runs on magneto...
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Yep, I agree. But I experienced a problem with sbp diary on magneto.
selecting "options", the option screen does not actually appear - which makes diary useless.
Anyone else noticed that?
SPB Pocket plus 3.0
I installed SPB Pocket plus 3.0 it works with no problem.
IMHO: The program is TOO BIG and not useful...
If you want small and free SafeMode go to: http://www.monocube.com/
Also see this: http://www.monocube.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=61&sid=1
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MapisM said:
RAGOv said:
hi..
maybe the best thing in spbp+ 3.0 is that it runs on magneto...
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Yep, I agree. But I experienced a problem with sbp diary on magneto.
selecting "options", the option screen does not actually appear - which makes diary useless.
Anyone else noticed that?
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yea ur right my friend MapisM i did'nt noticed this problem when i wrote my post :wink:
anyway it would be gr8 if the options in spb diary will work in magneto so am working on the problem....
i played with the registry with no use so i thought the file itself don't work.
i've localized(it's so simple)the spb diary options.exe file,and tried to run it from its location,but it seems that its not working...
now what i need 2 know is if someone is using spb diary succesfully(options is working) on another OS(2003-2003se)....
thanx for noticing bro....still i find the software gr8...
RAGO
thanx NicolaPr for the link,i'll check it out right now [/quote]
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RAGOv said:
thanx for noticing bro....still i find the software gr8...
RAGO
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U r welcome, thanks to you for trying to find a solution!
Unfortunately, I don't have another device where testing the behaviour with another OS, and can't flash mine back and forth, 'cause I need it for work.
...besides, I looove Buzzmobile5 too much to even think of returning to 2003!
All the best for your tests, though probably also sbp will fix that soon...
Am using SPB 3.0 Licenced with today plugin of SPB Diary (Trial) and SPB Weather (Trial) and also SPB Finance (Trial - but not using today plugin) on XDA IIs
1. The "Option" works fine on my unit with SPB Diary, weather and SPB3.0 - No issues there.
2. I did notice one thing though - if you use your unit and havent booted like say for a day/two - you realize you main memory reduces - i.e when i stated off i had appx 71mb running with no softwares..after a fresh boot...
Even without using much softwares - after a whole day - i noticed the memory down at 62MB ! Thats nearly 10MB Gone and no sign of anything running ! - I re-boot the unite and Lo be-hold - Get my 10MB back !
Memory leak ! can anyone confirm this ? Is it due to SPB ? Dont know for sure...Speed slows down after a long term use...must soft-reset to bring things back to normal !
Integration between Weather and Diary as TABS is beautiful - no issues so far. Speed or contents within the tabs come up on the fly...
SPB is memory hungry - thats for sure - how much they really improved - is just a matter of debate...it has become better - but if you can live with these issues - a great software to have on the unit!
Rgs/DD
yes, devdarshan... u r right..
spb pocket plus is causing the memory to fragment... i need to do a soft reset every 2-3 days to get back the working memory.
IMO, its the close program option which is closing the program but not releasing the full memory occupied by the program.
instead of the close option on spb plus, i'd revert back to DTSysView to close all the running programs, and then see if the memory loss is still there or not.

SPB Pocket Plus Current and Ex users

I have a question for users. I think I may be too harsh on SPBs products.
Current Users
How many of you are using SPB Pocket Plus...
Do you notice system resource drain when you use it?
What features do you generally use in the package?
Ex-Users
If you stopped using SPB Pocket plus why did you stop?
curently using spb pocket plus and spb weather and spb diary.
ive read about another program like SPB PocketPlus called spbsh or somthing like that. i want to try that soon to see what the difference is.
i am actually surprised at how little pocket plus slows down the system.
in terms of what features i use:
today plug in
close button
taskbar batt indicator
buttons (is enabled but i dont think i use it)
repeating alarms
PIE
file explorer
safe mode (tho ive never used safe mode, the checkbox is ticked)
hi
i m using spb plus and shell with all features. and i do not have any trouble with them.
I have been using pocket plus for about 2 years now.
It has a mild impact on system performance, e.g. in my case boot time has increased by 5 seconds and it takes about 1.5MB of program memory. However what it provides in return is far far morethan what it takes. For me I cannot imagine using windows mobile without pocket plus
Regards
spbsh
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SBSH iLauncher?
I am an ex user...
I realized the only feature I used was the close button where if I use a gesture (swipe down) it will close the application vs. minimize. Everything else I checked off.. Eventually, i stopped using it cause it was a memory hog and was conflicting with calligrapher starting up
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SBSH iLauncher?
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yeah SBSH iLauncher and a couple of their other programs.
I just found this link. It compares the SBSH suite to the SBP suite.
hxxp://www.sbsh.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=13980&pid=135600&st=0&#entry135600
I like SPB but i want to try the SBSH stuff too. do you have an opinion as to which is better?
i'm an ex user...I just found it to be too big and clunky for waht it did. I prefer light applicaitons without today plugins. Maybe I've been to short-sided where SPB is concerned.
i currently use pocket plus+diary+weather with all features on,very good suite of software ,tryed sbsh products first of all but think that spb is updated much frequently making a good advantage
I use SPB Pocket Plus, Mobile Shell which is something of an overlap with PP, in terms of what it can do, but is limited in some ways. Like others I also have Weather and Diary running on J Wrights WM6. There is a very slight time lag on Pocket Plus but that's about it.
They are the first programs I install on a hard reset / upgrade

SPB Mobile Shell, what's so great about it?

Owning a TD since it first launched and having used touchflow 3d ever since I thought I'd try something different for a change. I for one have been pretty happy with TF3d. For daily use, once you tweak it a bit and install some extra software it works fine for me. Looks decent and is not to slow. But I hear everyone rant about it and hear how great spb is supposed to be so I though why not give that a try.
It sucks. It looks nice, without a doubt. But thats about it I think. Its stupid, really really stupid. For example if you go to the whatever you want to do selection menu. Why is that load of **** on top of the screen there? I dont want all those stupid small icons. Secondly, whats with the useless big buttons? For example, under organizer, why cant I chose year for my agenda? And why under programma's do I get all the software? I dont want that! I want it like TF3d where I can select the software I actually use but apparantly its not possible to edit what you see there with the spb menu editor. Also, why di you get buttons to go to the next page? Besides it being slow what is even worse is that you dont have a X so if you actually want to close it you need to switch all the way back and press that button like atleast 6 times. And why cant I get network status to show up? I'd like to be able to see if my 3G is on or not and if it is I want to be able to manually disconnect it. And where is the decent contacts menu? One thing that sucks about TF3d is doesnt change the WM menu's when for example you go on and add a contact. SPB isnt anything better, it still has that and you dont even get something like iContact, your still stuck with the unusable WM contact menu's with the small not so finger friendly scrollbar. Oh, but there is the contact page, ****ing useless. I dont give a **** about my 15 favs or whatever. I want the complete list and be able to chose from that easy and fast. Also playing a mp3 sucks. No build in software so you have to bother with extra software again. As I use my TD for mp3 playback everyday SPB isnt exactly making things work faster for me.
Yeah maybe im just a incapable idiot but I really dont see how SPB is better than TF3d. It looks better, is a bit more responsive, but for daily use give my TF3d. No need to switch 12389 screens to get where I want. Got the left softkey editted, for iContact, the right one for my Agenda, got the software I use in the programs tab and for fast and easy mp3's playback the mp3 tab. Really, SPB doesnt come close to it if you ask me.
Maybe someone here can enlighten me as to how I can SPB to be what some people clame it to be...

Best calender/task manager

hey, i like touchflo,, i guess. probably cuz im a little too nervous and inexperienced to start seriously messing around with my phone, but i do hate how the calender on touchflo works. I cant see specific says without clicking on them, and the whole thing just seems a little elementary.
is there anything you can suggest that will work with touch flo, and required just a simply installation, because im not quite sure what most of the tech abbreviations mean, and how to manually configure settings.
So from your experience, what is the most intuitive program.
would it also be too much to ask to see some screenshots of the programs.
thanks a lot....consider it my christmas present
just a side note,
if you have a program on the phone, and then update the framework, must you reinstall the initial program...the reason i ask is , i have a program to prevent the screen from being responsive when i call came in, but after a few updates, ie. framework and advance config, the screen blocker program isnt working
any suggestion?
i believe there is already a post about this and to the best of my knowledge the answer to your second question is no
SBSH Touch Calendar looks awesome. I haven't tried it yet as it costs $25 but I'm thinking about buying it. Give it a shot and post up here!
http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showtopic=23420
Also there is a 12-day trial.
systoxity said:
i believe there is already a post about this and to the best of my knowledge the answer to your second question is no
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hey, sorry for the repost, but ive been searching, and really havent been able to find what im looking for. It may just be that i dont know if the mentioned programs im looking for are compatible with the touch pro. Im not looking to mod my task bar, or anything concerning manilla files. Just a program that allows me to see into the future a little better. is this spd diary program compatible with touch pro and free?
thanks for putting up with me
Try thumbcal, i's great. Version 0,5 is free after that it gets a little better but it's not free anymore, 12
Have a look here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381588
This solved my problem - if this is installed, you switch the screen off, then on again - all appointments as well as current date/time is displayed.
Ive used Thumbcal and only just installed the SBSH touch cal, have to admit looks and operates great. So much more features and ability to manage apts etc. First impressions i think its alot more comprehensive then Thumbcal, but just my opinion.

where do i begin? trying to find the right plugin for TP2

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Deafcyclist said:
I've just gotten the AT&T Tilt2 this Dec 31 and I have been trying to figure out how to really customize the today themes. however, because nearly everyone here uses cooked roms, i just can't seem to figure out how to find plugins that can work with stock winMO 6.5 on my Tilt2. I have a few particular things I would like to set for my today themes but I need to learn even the very basic of the themes on my Tilt2 first, such as TouchFLO 3D. but what do I call the window default? so far I think it's titanium? and what about the even older looking theme that I see when I don't have either the "titanium" and TouchFLO 3D?
Basically I want easy view (or access) of the weather forecast, time, agenda, task, and messages (combined SMS, MMS, and e-mails). I would also love to be able to launch select few apps from there.
How do I go about setting this up when I do not even know how to find out all of the relevant info I needs? (believe me, I've tried to use the search functions but i can't seem to find any newbie-friendly explanations).
Sorry if I seem to be cluttering up this subforum, but I really really want to figure out how to set this up so I can truly use my tilt2 efficiently in this way in preparation for my next semester at college.
Thanks for any and all info.
P.S. I know that I will be suggested to go ahead and try to flash some roms into this tilt2 but i would rather find out of these plugin first so I can be sure that I would have all of the functionality without having to do that if I can.
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Welcome to the forums!
TouchFlo and Titanium are today plugins.
This means that when you siable them both, you get the standard WinMo today screen.
You can disable them by going into start/settings/today. There you can disable the items you don't want.
To have more plugins for titanium, you can go here. There you can find various extra plugins, like weather.
For TouchFlo, there aren't any plugins.
I hope this helps, if you have got more questions you may always PM me.
And next time, ask questions in the Q&A section. I know that forum gets less attention but we need to keep this section clean for themes only. Thanks.
Cheers,
EC
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Okay no problem, just next time.
As I said you can revert to the old standard windows mobile home by going to start/settings/personal/today/items and uncheck Titanium and Touchflo.
I don't know any standard home plugins, because I never used it.
If you deleted plug-ins you will need to hard-reset your Tilt2, or find a download somewhere.
EC
Moved to Q&A as not release.
You can use standard plugins. As was already said, just uncheck windows default and TF3D from today settings, and select whatever you want. I use Tonaya weather-2-go, Skyfire, Pocket Digital Clock, PDA Status, and SK T oday Commander (paid for). A lot of the freeware sites have many choices. I recommend PDA Status, it's really nice.
Anyway, I kind of agree with you on the UI's. I like having things in one place, and don't like having to scroll all over the place. If you're bored, you can check my sig and see how I have mine set up (don't flash it, though).
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Frustrated
OK, I'm frustrated as hell trying to get some decent plug ins for my new phone. Just got a new Tilt 2, and really, really like the titanium weather plug in look, but cannot get it to operate on the phone. Am I missing something? The options for the today screen do not change after I install titanium weather (showaco, tried both of his v4.1 and 4.2 cabs), but a weather line shows up in the Windows default today screen. However, every time I try to get it set up, it gives me an error, essentially
(OK, I can't post a link (not trying to), but in the following, the xxxx was actually http)
'xxxx://hadle.accu-weather.com/widget/hadle/weather-data.asp?location=62002&metric=0' couldn't be opened.
also
Line 1 (\Program Files\TitaniumWeather\TitaniumWeather.mscr):link=ReadFile("xxxx://hadle.accu-weather.com/widget/hadle/weather-data.asp?location=&location&"&metric="&metric)
So, what am I missing, or am I installing an incorrect program? I'm brand new to any of this, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Dale

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