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I'm wondering if this is because of my device (HTC Titan) or because of WM6... all I know is that I never had this happen before!
Basically, I'll pull out my phone sometimes and find that its turned on by itself, and has been sitting with the dim idle backlight on.
I noticed it can be caused by several things but the 2 main ones I've seen is:
1) when the phone switches to/from roaming, it wakes up
2) when using A2DP controls (AVRCP), it wakes up.
I've been using workarounds to keep the backlight off for now (set the phone to roam only, or carrier-only, so it won't be switching in/out of roam, and use core player or just remember to toggle the screen off everytime I use a media AVRCP control), but there has got to be a better way to keep the darned screen off until I press power!
Anyone have any suggestions? This is really an unexpected annoyance as it eats up my battery quickly not knowing its on...
I had a similar issue with whenever I received an email and didnt shut off the device manually. What I eventually ended up doing was setting the device to automagically lock when it was powered off, and this seemed to solve the issue. I'm not sure however if this will fix it in your case because locking it may interfere with AVRCP controls working.
Hi everyone! My Artemis running WM6 turns on eveery time I get a call or SMS. I would like it if it didn't, because sometimes I want my phone tio stay silent, and having it on when I don't know it's on can be a huge drain on battery life. I'm assuming there's a simple option I'm missing. Thanks for your help.
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This is a bit of an annoyance. I like how you can instantly turn the phone on or off, and I would prefer to have to stop pulling out the battery during the school day and have the phone boot for a minute or so. Is there any way to make sure your phone stays asleep when it's asleep?
Get a profile software. Some are free. Set the connection (phone) to off during the time selected by you and I believe it will stay put, unless you have a service the forces the phone call/sms through regardless.
I have Spb Phone Suite, and I can choose to reject all calls, but I don't think it works with SMS. I also can't seem to get it to automatically activate while the phone is asleep.
I don't know Spb Phone Suite but I believe with any paid application like this or PhoneAlarm you can get a FlightMode that turns everything off for a specified time and a profile to turn things back on. Sorry I cannot be of more help. That's all I know.
Hey all,
Recently i've been having some problems with my emails coming through to my handset. I have the settings set to send/receive every 5 minutes.. but for some reason if my screen is turned off (phone on standby) no email comes through but when i turn my screen back on the emails come.
Has anyone else has this problem? I've never had this problem before it started out of no where...
Which software are you using as your email handler?
The original software that came with the phone.. I havn't installed anything on the phone its at its original state...
jayt2008 said:
Hey all,
Recently i've been having some problems with my emails coming through to my handset. I have the settings set to send/receive every 5 minutes.. but for some reason if my screen is turned off (phone on standby) no email comes through but when i turn my screen back on the emails come.
Has anyone else has this problem? I've never had this problem before it started out of no where...
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are you using wifi or data connections? If its wifi do you have wifi enabled during standby?
i am using data...like i said if my screen is turned on theres no problems at all but its just when the screen is off in stand by mode no emails will come through..
This is a huuuuge issue which stems from the dawn of WM6. To be honest, it works sporadically for me. A few hours of no email, then a whole group arrives at a time. Sometimes it wont check by itself all day. Other times it will go 1-2 days without missing a beat. This makes it really hard to determine if what I have been doing fixes it.
Here are links to threads I have dug up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420513
^This is not a good fix imo, as it forces your data connection to be awake 24/7, killing your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437199&page=2
^ I am using the outlook email scheduler. Not sure if its working, or placebo. It still doesnt stick to every 30 mins, sometimes an hour late heh. At least you can have day/night settings and weekend settings. Maybe not a perfect fix, but increases email checking options.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332362
^ Many Kaiser users had/have same problem, no solution found.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445434
^Same problem, no fix in the Blackstone forum.
Thanks everyone for the help.
There has to be some kind of fix out there somewhere.. its unreliable
could try out the seven beta app
If I might make a suggestion...
Maybe you should edit the thread title to "No email in standby" as "Email..." doesn't really tell the story, more people will be likely to find it and post a solution
Problem solved with my Touch Pro
I also had this problem but I found the settings to change this. But you do need schaps advanced config 3 (and a regeditor) to make it happen. Now i always receive my email, it checks every 10 minutes, even in standby mode, with my own data connection.
With a registry editor go to:
HKLM - Comm - ConnMgr - Providers - [GUID] - Connections - [Connection Name] - Always On
and change this value from 0 to 1
(You can also change this setting with Schaps' Advanced Config under menu (right softkey) - More Settings - Connections.
Here you can select "Always On" for the type of data-connection that you use to receive your email)
The second thing is using advanced config and change the setting under power management:
- AC resuming from suspend timeout
- Battery resuming from suspend timeout
I have changed both to 60 seconds.
Now my touch pro is notifying me of new email, even in standby mode.
Good luck
^ by forcing the eternal data connection, are you not killing the battery? I think the phone should be able to connect, query, download emails, disconnect at set intervals while in standby. I think it is supposed to, but for some reason it doesn't do it reliably.
The way I have done it is to use SKSchema to watch for a data connection being connected and turn on the screen when this event happens. This wakes th ephone up and is able to download email. Then I use advance config to close inactive data connection after 10 seconds. As the phone is awake the data disconnects fine. As long as your phones screen is set not to power off quickly, mine is a minute it should be fine.
In the last day I got fed up with TF3D again and turned it off, email seems to check every 30 minutes. I'll let it go for a few days to make sure its not placebo effect.
Anybody here having this problem while manila disabled? Perhaps there is some obscure power saving setting running in the background of manila
Well i have no idea how to fix this problem.. i have played with my phone to try figure it out but nothing.
I will probably have to take rvjacobs advice and see if that works.
It looks like quite a few people are having this same problem.
Its weird.. If my phone is on standby no email comes through..but if its on standby and an SMS comes through, the screen doesnt wake but the email also comes through..
not sure whats happening there.
Mine does it with TF3D disabled also. Thats why I have to use SKSchema to turn the screen on when it detects an internet connection. This way, mail comes through fine and it also auto disconnects the data.
I can now confirm that the issue is still there, regardless of TF3D. Damn, I've tried everything, maybe this is a dead end... Maybe wm 6.5 will see a solution
Maybe it helps you to look for/change the following key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts]
"ACResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000001
"BattResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000001
If you've got these values in the registry, try to cange them to
"dword:0000001e"
It's the time in seconds the device keeps running (without turning on the display) when it's automaticly woke up from the suspend mode (i.e. to look for mails). And if the value is "1", the time might be to short for picking up your emails.
With the new value you set the time up to 30 seconds.
The key exists since WM2003 and most of roms had a higher value in the past. But in the last time more and more roms come with a value of 1. I think its because the manufacturers want to get a good standby time for the devices...
I hope it works for you and you won't have to wait for WM6.5
Thanks for that deroland! I did manage to find them in the reg but it just says "Value Data 1".. doesnt say anything like "dword:00000001"?
I am new to this whole thing so it may be a stupid mistake im making..
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Thanks for that deroland! I did manage to find them in the reg but it just says "Value Data 1".. doesnt say anything like "dword:00000001"?
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Then your value is like "dword:00000001". This is a hexdecimal dword key.
So your device has one second to look for new mails.
Try to change it to "1e" and I hope it will help you.
jayt2008 said:
I am new to this whole thing so it may be a stupid mistake im making..
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The only stupid thing is that there is no open support by the manufacturers of the devices and microsoft for windows mobile. They only want to make their money ignoring the problem we have by the stuff they sell.
deroland said:
Maybe it helps you to look for/change the following key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts]
"ACResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000001
"BattResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000001
If you've got these values in the registry, try to cange them to
"dword:0000001e"
It's the time in seconds the device keeps running (without turning on the display) when it's automaticly woke up from the suspend mode (i.e. to look for mails). And if the value is "1", the time might be to short for picking up your emails.
With the new value you set the time up to 30 seconds.
The key exists since WM2003 and most of roms had a higher value in the past. But in the last time more and more roms come with a value of 1. I think its because the manufacturers want to get a good standby time for the devices...
I hope it works for you and you won't have to wait for WM6.5
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This is a setting which can be changed in advanced config, under power. I have mine set to 90 seconds, to no avail. I think this is what is causing it to work sporadically, as opposed to not at all.
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but i checked some performance related threads and nobody mentioned it.
After hanging up a call, why does the entire device hang for about 10-13 seconds before I can use any other function (including making another call) ??
Anything that can be done to fix this?
Thanks for the help!
hello? I'd really appreciate someone to reply to this, just so at least I know I'm not the only one with this problem. Thanks!
did you do any radio changing?
It seems to be an issue with some radios on some phones. I have a list of radios that I use that will crash the phone after so many calls.
No, no radio changing. In fact I don't even know what that means.
The phone doesn't crash, it just hangs after a phone call for about 13 seconds like it's trying to process something. Doesn't anyone else experience this?
have you downloaded a bunch of app to run in the background of your phone?
it does sound redundant, but if you take a look at your task manager it'll show you how much of your ram is being used up. if it's somewhere high like 75% then you need to close whatever program is taking up the most memory.
another possible thing might be active sync. I heard that when active sync tries to sync while not connected it can cause slow downs and that might happen during or when you hang up a call.
good luck
Just tested it. Active directory was not on, and neither was there any background processes working according to Task Manager, and it still took 10 secs after I hung up the call before I could reuse the phone.
How long is it supposed to take for the rest of you?
a second or less. Active sync is the usual culprit for bad battery life, but it looks like something is running in teh background and making your phone calls take longer to quit.
download and install advanced config, and look in one of the settings which is called "hangup delay" or something like that default is 1500 mS (1.5 seconds) change it to 500 mS or what ever you want and see if that makes a difference
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download and install advanced config, and look in one of the settings which is called "hangup delay" or something like that default is 1500 mS (1.5 seconds) change it to 500 mS or what ever you want and see if that makes a difference
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I've done that now, and all I've done is improve the "hang time" by the number I've reduced the "hangup delay" by. The hang-up delay was originally 3000, and I reduced it to 1000, so my "hang time" is reduced by 2 seconds, but I still have to wait around 9-10 seconds before the phone is usable again.
How come no-one else is experiencing this? There's nothing special running on my phone.
I have the Telus device and have the ' hang' problem as well. I have seen updates on the HTC website for different carrier versions that may correct this problem. None for Telus yet though.
do you have any sort of battery meter running at the top of your screen? ie tnt battery meter?
that app KILLS KILLS KILLS performance on the TP for some reason...
Yes I have a battery meter at the top of the screen, but it's the stock one. I don't know what a "TNT" battery meter is. Should I disable it, and if so how? And after I do, how would I know how much power I have left? And are you saying that those of you who did not turn of the battery meter had performance problems when hanging up?
Thanks!
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I have the Telus device and have the ' hang' problem as well. I have seen updates on the HTC website for different carrier versions that may correct this problem. None for Telus yet though.
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Thank-you! I am also with Telus! If anyone has any suggestions - please help! This is the number one problem with the phone, as well as dropped calls on occasion. I like all the non-phone (ie. PDA) functions though (except that all my outdoor photos turn blue)
Found this which seems to help:
Dealt with HTC for the same issue you're talking about. Turn the "Auto save contact" off and make sure you wipe you call history and the issue will go away.
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Yes I have a battery meter at the top of the screen, but it's the stock one. I don't know what a "TNT" battery meter is. Should I disable it, and if so how? And after I do, how would I know how much power I have left? And are you saying that those of you who did not turn of the battery meter had performance problems when hanging up?
Thanks!
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im talking about a meter that runs across the very top of your screen so that if it's halfway across your screen you ahve 50% battery left. if you don't have any idea what i'm takling about then ignore this lol
Hi all,
My father bought an HTC Touch Pro some time ago; I think it was in 2008, as he needed a good phone, with the organization capability that WM has to offer.
The phone is in MINT conditions, really. It still has the original screen protector and no scratches can be found on it. He uses it a lot, but always has it in the leather case, and in a small pocket, which sometimes results in lost calls, as no one can really hear it ring . The battery is always fully charged, and after some testing I think it is still in good conditions.
The problem that he started getting is that after I installed some programs like GPS Tomtom and AGEPhone for SIP calling that he never uses (hehe), he started noticing the battery was discharging faster and that it would not last even 1 day, when before it would last about 3-4 days.
I uninstalled the programs, and the problem persists. Brightness is on 50%, wifi and any internet connection is turned off. No programs running in background, unless it's active sync that sometimes turns on itself.
POSSIBLE CAUSE - We noticed is that he has a lot of reminders, so the phone is constantly waking up. The problem is that it does not go to sleep afterwards. The touch screen is locked, so when a reminder pops up, the screen stays turned on, even if the backlight is not on, and just drains the battery completely.
Is there anything we can do, so that it (the reminders of meetings, birthdays and other stuff) would not wake the device up, or if it did, the phone would go to sleep after some seconds, so that it would not overheat and drain the battery in 1 day?
It is a quite annoying having to constantly look at the phone, dismissing reminders and turning the screen off, so the battery can last a bit longer.
I need to solve this problem, but my father will not agree with a custom ROM flash. Maximum I can do with it is upgrade it through the HTC tool, but I am not sure if it is worth it.
Here are the information:
Version de ROM: 1.90.406.5 FRE
Date de ROM: 08/20/08
Version de radio: 1.02.25.19
Version de protocole: 52.33.25.17W
The device was bought in Luxemburg and has a French windows mobile 6.1 on it, and an AZERTY keyboard.
Please help me with this issue.
Get tBattery and check to see the current draw under stead, idle conditions. With the backlight at 5, it should draw about 110 mA (there may be some spiking). Use the log feature, say for 10 min @ a time, with power-save options unchecked so the screen doesn't dim and it doesn't go to sleep. If the drain is high (constantly above 200 mA, let's say), then get a good task manager (hint: new dotfred's 3.3) and start killing processes, and see if that helps. If not, then try stopping some of ther services.
Thanks Farmer Ted for the reply, but I think I found the cause of the problem. I don't know why but after it wakes up, because of an appointment, it will not turn the screen off, even after 10 minutes and I have the power management set 30 sec off if not being used.
As the screen is locked, the appointment will not be dismissed by accident or pressed so it just stays like that, until the battery is dead.
Is there a hidden option to make the phone go back to sleep, or to prevent it from waking up, just making the led blink, as when you get new SMS messages and the screen is off, or when you get a missed call?
If there was I think it would solve the problem completely.
Thank you all for your help.
yes the problem is the screen it drains it faster than a hobo with a bottle of wiskey,
what you have to do it click on batter icon and get into the battery menu select advanced and elect turn back light off if device is not used for and select 10 second, then turn off device if not used for and slected 1 minute (its reffering to the screen)
then i use a program called touch pro tweak (its cooked into all energy roms) and there is a setting to wake up on call or text or notification and disable it by wake up it refers to turing the screen on
I have a simmilar problem.. I discovered what causes it... When I install certian programs, it changes the power settings.. namely, the power off when not plugged in setting... So, check out those settings... I have had this happen 3 or 4 times in as many months... then I notice the same issues with my battery.. after I go change the settigns back (for the 100th time) it goes back to pastign 2-3 days for me... (instead of less than 1)
Hi people, sorry to bring up this topic again, but I see no point in creating a new one.
I would like to ask if any of you would recommend me a good French ROM (as it comes with AZERTY keyboard) for this device that has good battery life?
Is it possible that a cooked WM 6.5 would use less battery then stock WM 6.1?
I have another problem, is there a way to turn up the ringing volume of the phone, in order to hear it even if it is in a small bag? It's already on max, but my father complaints the ringing volume is too low and he can not hear it.
And last but not least, how much does this battery normally last? Wifi off, bluetooth off, calling about 15 min a day, some SMS and a lot of reminders.
It can not go a day, max two days without recharging. It is always turned off when he goes to sleep, because if not, he will wake up with a dead device.