Hi guys, after digging through the entire WM6 forum, and testing some ROM's for myself, I found a common problom among all of the WM6 ROM's
There are some issues with the dataconnections via UMTS/GPRS. Let me explain.
Let say I have an open GPRS (or UMTS) connection and am browsing some websites. I lose my connection in a tunnel so I wait. When I come out, the dataconnection is useless, and has to reconnect. Thats the part where I it all goes bad The icon will say that there is no connection anymore, but when going to the connectionmanager and modifying the connection will report that the connection is in fact in use!
To my knowledge, there is no immidate fix for this, and ive seen a lot of posts about this issue.
What makes it even more cranky is that it can also occur when the radio switches from UMTS to GRPS when connected.
The commmanger is sometimes able to correct is by restarting the phone, but many times it is forcing me to soft-reset
How did you get to all this you may ask? Well I live in a small village in Holland, and what makes it a pain for WM6 for me is that my hometown is on the border of a GPRS/UMTS zone (IN the town, GPRS - 500 meters out, UMTS) Plus the fact that when going to school, I pass through a tunnel going under water thus canceling all connections
As I said, the error comes op when roaming, or getting disconnected.
Is there anyone that can shed some more light on to this issue? (Or in the best possible case even fix it? )
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WM5 does not suffer from this.
This is actually a well documented problem amongst some Radio ROMs with WM6. Each person will tell you a different favourite Radio ROM and the only real way to find one that works for you is to test them.
My personal favourite out of quite a few that I've tested is 1.13, locality UK. Works fine for me, boosted signal performance and reconnection for data is fine for my needs, but then I don't use Push eMail or anything that requires permanent connection so I might not be the best judge for that kind of stability.
1.15 has just been released and a lot of people are saying it's the best, haven't tried it myself yet.
There is a thread titled "which radio rom works best where you are?", contains a lot of post stating which is their favourite Radio in their particular location, should help you along the way. Sorry, would give you a link, but feeling lazy
Hope it helps.
SpyderTracks said:
This is actually a well documented problem amongst some Radio ROMs with WM6. Each person will tell you a different favourite Radio ROM and the only real way to find one that works for you is to test them.
My personal favourite out of quite a few that I've tested is 1.13, locality UK. Works fine for me, boosted signal performance and reconnection for data is fine for my needs, but then I don't use Push eMail or anything that requires permanent connection so I might not be the best judge for that kind of stability.
1.15 has just been released and a lot of people are saying it's the best, haven't tried it myself yet.
There is a thread titled "which radio rom works best where you are?", contains a lot of post stating which is their favourite Radio in their particular location, should help you along the way. Sorry, would give you a link, but feeling lazy
Hope it helps.
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I tried the radio 1.15. Like many have said most radios are country compatible. With me the best is 1.09 and i moved to it.
Also radios are interlinked with your network providers, th4 some work better and some dont. Thats my experience.
Tried them all !!
I've posted in just about every thread and must have bored everyone with my postings on this subject, I simply can't find a combination that works reliably under WM6 - none of the Radio versions seem able to cope.
It is interesting that this has not been addressed yet, it is a fundamental issue to using the XDA as a business communication tool.
It would be good if one (or more) of the excellent XDA Developers could try & solve this before delivering any more builds that tweak minor settings & deliver questionable value to a limited audience (I hope this doesn't sound like a whinge, it is not, I like the work done here & enjoy the new feaures).
Well done for setting this up as a dedicated thread.
While I was on aku 3.2 Jwright it was smooth as sailing with radio 1.09. After moving onto wm6 there is a feeling of disatisfaction.
few hangups, communication is not very smooth, missed calls occasionally and sluggish. This is being faced very regularly.
Well!. hope to see a good solution soon.
SpyderTracks said:
This is actually a well documented problem amongst some Radio ROMs with WM6. Each person will tell you a different favourite Radio ROM and the only real way to find one that works for you is to test them.
My personal favourite out of quite a few that I've tested is 1.13, locality UK. Works fine for me, boosted signal performance and reconnection for data is fine for my needs, but then I don't use Push eMail or anything that requires permanent connection so I might not be the best judge for that kind of stability.
1.15 has just been released and a lot of people are saying it's the best, haven't tried it myself yet.
There is a thread titled "which radio rom works best where you are?", contains a lot of post stating which is their favourite Radio in their particular location, should help you along the way. Sorry, would give you a link, but feeling lazy
Hope it helps.
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Ive been through every radio ROM from 1.09.00 and up. The one I found working best for me is 1.15.00 but the issue isnt resolved. It will still happen To see if the radio is actualy better than others I flashed the stock WM5 ROM to my 9000 again to see if it will occur there as well, but no sigar. WM5 is having no problems.
It happens stricktly on WM6 ROM (any version, and any radio) :'(
push mail best option
Hello
So which ROM is the best option for a working push mail?
From the above comments I guess a WM5 - which brings another question : which one is the faster/most stable, at least to compare with WM6 ?
From what I've read, Jwrigh 3.2 seems to be better than Helmi 3.5
A side questions: can anyone do manual activesync to mail2web with SSL enabled?
Thanks
guylhem said:
Hello
So which ROM is the best option for a working push mail?
From the above comments I guess a WM5 - which brings another question : which one is the faster/most stable, at least to compare with WM6 ?
From what I've read, Jwrigh 3.2 seems to be better than Helmi 3.5
A side questions: can anyone do manual activesync to mail2web with SSL enabled?
Thanks
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My personal opinion goes to the Qtek factory ROM. It is pretty much vanilla and has decent speed and good reliability. The ROM works good with almost any radio version (1.15.00 is very nice)
As for WM6, many people have it running great, but I am having problems with radio stability.
Tested today again with radio 1.15.00 and the JWright 2.02.00 WWE Crossbow, and no luck. All morning was great, no hickups. And going home this afternoon the whole thing jams up. A little baloon stating that dailing failed or something of that matter. When I restarted the phone via Commmanager, it went working again but switching from UMTS to GPRS locked it up showing the baloon constantly
AFAIK, the developers are aware of this issue. Jwright did a few enhancements on 1.13 with the release of 2.02, it was better, but unfortunately still left a few glitches... Have faith though, I know these guys only do it as a little hobby, but they do come up with some incredible results 99% of the time
Honnestly - the work being done is truely amazing. I should know - I did maintain my own rom for the Sharp Zaurus 6000 so I can tell you how tough it is to fix small bugs - I remember spending weeks to find a workaround for a keyboard issue which was due to hardcoded stuff in Qtopia libraries (what a shame). I had to resort to kernel hacking to change the keycodes, then do the same for the console and Qtopia, etc.
I was contemplating to work on Linux for the Universal, but it is such a great device right now with WM6 that I don't want to spend time on that. I couldn't do much better with free software at the moment (except add more stability and run GAIM which can work behind http-proxy - I need that for my flat rate wap !). Push mail is a killing function.
Anyway, now that the network connectivity issue seems to be pinpointed to the OS (instead of the radio rom) maybe something will be possible ? On GNU/Linux, I would add a script to cron, to try to ping some IP, resolve a FQDN - whatever, and if the connection fail issue a stop/start to the ppp daemon. If this fails too, do the same to the GSM. It shouldn't be very hard to code on WM.
I really enjoy the Universal - good form factor, almost complete (I would just add GPS and more RAM). It is really useful to me in my "off-line" life.
Guylhem
I couldnt agree more on how much great work is done on the Universal (Or any other HTC device for that matter ) And I have great faith in the experts on this forum that a solution will be found
i have tried Jwrights WM6 ROm with 1.13 and 1.15 Radio, the GPRS never connrcts in Egypt. i then tried Darkforces ROM with 1.13 and 1.15 Radio again the GPRS never connects in Egypt.
i then tried Jwrights Rom with Radio 1.09 and the GPRS works 100%. i think there are some issues with WM6 and 1.13 and 1.15 Radio Roms.
does anyone have any other thoughts?
Ill give 1.09 another try over here in the Netherlands te see if there are any minor differences I can spot (Currently using 1.15.00)
Hmmm,
I've got two places were I go on the internet using gprs/umts. And it gives two different results. But when you look at the coverage it can't be a coincidence. Beause at home i lose my signal when it switches between gprs and umts which it does all the time. And at that adres the coverage for just umts is not that good but that for gprs is. really annoying.
But at that other place i have a superb connection with a great signal. and that coincides with the coverage.
So it means that what is important is how a certain rom handles the changes between umts and gprs. Which is already known now is the question who makes sure that the change between umts and gprs goes smoothly??
Biffert said:
Ill give 1.09 another try over here in the Netherlands te see if there are any minor differences I can spot (Currently using 1.15.00)
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I'm also in the Netherlands (Arnhem-Utrecht) and I've tried lots of radio roms.
In my view it's true that wm5 works with different roms then WM6.
I've tried 1.12 (fixed) 1.15 and 1.09 with WM6
1.09 is in my view the best, 1.12 and 1.15 both had problems with the BT and the device hanging when soft-resetting.
I'm going to try 1.14.10 1.13 and 1.10 also to see which off those works best.
I'm not really convinced by the integrated Radio software of my Polaris. I would like to know if somebody know an alternative ?
What I search for is a software that allow me to wrote the name of the station (not only the frequency as into the Polaris). I've also remarked that the Audio Booster have any influence on the Radio. About this, I'm not sure that it is a bug with my Bepe WM 6.1 ROM (if someone can test it with an official HTC ROM, I'll be interested to know if this is a general problem or maybe "normal").
Thanks in advance for your feedback !
Hello my Friend!
Audio Booster doesn't do anything with my original French Rom.
I agree: the lack of station name is unpleasant
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Jules Winnfield said:
Hello my Friend!
Audio Booster doesn't do anything with my original French Rom.
I agree: the lack of station name is unpleasant
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It a pleasure to see that we are two ;-) Welcome to the club of unhappy
Three, now we are three at least
I'm not so happy about default HD FM radio software. I use it also into the car and after a while the device turn off leaving the radio on...very ugly
Do you know ho to keep the light off but device on with the FM radio on?
Hey, this is one of feature I am going to write.
I also want to write name for my favorite stations so I started this FM radio project to write my own player.
However I am not sure if Polaris has same FMS API as Raphael etc.
Can you test it on your device please?
You may need device driver (FMS_API.dll and FMS.dll). they can be found from Diamond or raphael forum.
See my signature for downloading xFM Radio player.
Now we are four.
Five... I miss station name too...
Now six from spain!
now 7 from UK!
vectorbl said:
Three, now we are three at least
I'm not so happy about default HD FM radio software. I use it also into the car and after a while the device turn off leaving the radio on...very ugly
Do you know ho to keep the light off but device on with the FM radio on?
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you can either set the batery settings to stay always on and press the uper button to turn the screen of (the radio wiill keep on playing), OR get a lighter adapter
now 8. from czech republic
How about offering some alternative instead of counting ? Every time i see this thread bumped up, i read the posts, hoping someone would post something meaningful. Yet, all i see is "me too" with a count :-( There are way more than 8 ppl want this, take a look at the views count of the thread.
9 from portugal
now 10 from malaysia
IS tmc possible wit this device since it has an internal FM radio for tools like IGO 2008 or something?
Thnx
It should be possible to write a driver that will extract tmc out of rds and deliver it using opentmc. But since there is no such driver yet, one would have to write it from stretch. That would be a huge work to do.
So it would be good to start a new SF-Project... rds for htc
I don't think the radio is RDS. I know it was advertised as such, but I've used the radio quite a bit already and believe me, I've found no RDS option and nor does it autofrequency a channel. es it autostores, but no it doesn't automatically find alternative frequencies for a tuned radio channel.
Grrrr.
rb14 said:
I don't think the radio is RDS. I know it was advertised as such, but I've used the radio quite a bit already and believe me, I've found no RDS option and nor does it autofrequency a channel. es it autostores, but no it doesn't automatically find alternative frequencies for a tuned radio channel.
Grrrr.
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It has not to autofrequency a channel to be rds-able. If you get some informations like radio station name, then it is rds.
Yah. Fair comment. I suppose I was just a little surprised that it doesn't automatically find alternative frequencies; for me, it's one of the most useful functions of RDS, especially when I'm on my motorbike or on the train, etc.
I have the Raphael here in the Netherlands.
The radio application is pretty limited but it does show the RDS text which the radio sends like radio station name, traffic info and current playing songs.
Autofrequency is just one more feature brought you by rds. It sends a flag and than your radio can switch over if signal becomes weak. But the application have to support this. If you buy a real cheap auto radio than you'll miss a lot of this features.
But since TMC is only a common RDS package with an other flag, one should be able to use this.
Today I bought my eMonster after reading these forums for a few weeks.
So far here is where I am at:
KAIS140 MFG
SPL-1.0.Olipof
CPLD-8
Radio 1.71.09.01 (Original was 1 63 08 26)
Currently running RUU_Kaiser_WM6.1_ASIA_WWE_3.10.707.1.YK_Test
Obviously these questions will have some Japanese localization but any help would be great.
Currently I can make calls and be heard and hear the other party.
I have wifi and 3G access access.
However the problems I have are as follows.
The camera no longer works. It simply gives me a black screen.
Audio works when sliding open the phone but if I try to run media player the audio then stops working completely.
It seems there were several applications that came with the original rom that are now lost including the GPS program.
Also it seems that although the OS is in English now input itself seems limited to chinese.
Any tips from users who have an Emonster or can point me in the right direction would be great.
Thank you so much for this great wealth of information.
Candiman in Japan
I dont know but from what I've gleened from the forums, bad audio and broken camera is always a radio incompatability issue.
I have tried a few radios, apparently this is the latest radio from Japan.
However I have tried a few others as well with limited or worse results.
I would like to try the original radio but I can not seem to find it for download.
Does any one know where I can find 1.63.08.26?
I did a back up with SPB back up but does that include the radio?
Its a great phone and I look forward to mastering it.
Thank you for the help!
Could it be because of You used SPL 1.0? i read in forum, for WM6.1 ROM, it's better to use HardSPL 3.xx (3.28, 3.29 and 3.56).
But still as kb9nvh said, it's main impact of incompatible radio
Hi everybody,
How do I know that my Radio Version is compatable with my region coverage. I live in Sweden and I have 2.11.50.20 radio. The only problem I have is unable to send SMSs to other middle east countries.
My great appreciations to whom offer help.
A good place to start is to look through the Radio thread in the device specific forum and look for users with same credentials but even then the only way to find the best radio for device is to flash and test since so many variables Carrier/Location then Signal/Data Speed/GPS Fix/Battery Life etc.