Hi guys, after digging through the entire WM6 forum, and testing some ROM's for myself, I found a common problom among all of the WM6 ROM's
There are some issues with the dataconnections via UMTS/GPRS. Let me explain.
Let say I have an open GPRS (or UMTS) connection and am browsing some websites. I lose my connection in a tunnel so I wait. When I come out, the dataconnection is useless, and has to reconnect. Thats the part where I it all goes bad The icon will say that there is no connection anymore, but when going to the connectionmanager and modifying the connection will report that the connection is in fact in use!
To my knowledge, there is no immidate fix for this, and ive seen a lot of posts about this issue.
What makes it even more cranky is that it can also occur when the radio switches from UMTS to GRPS when connected.
The commmanger is sometimes able to correct is by restarting the phone, but many times it is forcing me to soft-reset
How did you get to all this you may ask? Well I live in a small village in Holland, and what makes it a pain for WM6 for me is that my hometown is on the border of a GPRS/UMTS zone (IN the town, GPRS - 500 meters out, UMTS) Plus the fact that when going to school, I pass through a tunnel going under water thus canceling all connections
As I said, the error comes op when roaming, or getting disconnected.
Is there anyone that can shed some more light on to this issue? (Or in the best possible case even fix it? )
Edit:
WM5 does not suffer from this.
This is actually a well documented problem amongst some Radio ROMs with WM6. Each person will tell you a different favourite Radio ROM and the only real way to find one that works for you is to test them.
My personal favourite out of quite a few that I've tested is 1.13, locality UK. Works fine for me, boosted signal performance and reconnection for data is fine for my needs, but then I don't use Push eMail or anything that requires permanent connection so I might not be the best judge for that kind of stability.
1.15 has just been released and a lot of people are saying it's the best, haven't tried it myself yet.
There is a thread titled "which radio rom works best where you are?", contains a lot of post stating which is their favourite Radio in their particular location, should help you along the way. Sorry, would give you a link, but feeling lazy
Hope it helps.
SpyderTracks said:
This is actually a well documented problem amongst some Radio ROMs with WM6. Each person will tell you a different favourite Radio ROM and the only real way to find one that works for you is to test them.
My personal favourite out of quite a few that I've tested is 1.13, locality UK. Works fine for me, boosted signal performance and reconnection for data is fine for my needs, but then I don't use Push eMail or anything that requires permanent connection so I might not be the best judge for that kind of stability.
1.15 has just been released and a lot of people are saying it's the best, haven't tried it myself yet.
There is a thread titled "which radio rom works best where you are?", contains a lot of post stating which is their favourite Radio in their particular location, should help you along the way. Sorry, would give you a link, but feeling lazy
Hope it helps.
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I tried the radio 1.15. Like many have said most radios are country compatible. With me the best is 1.09 and i moved to it.
Also radios are interlinked with your network providers, th4 some work better and some dont. Thats my experience.
Tried them all !!
I've posted in just about every thread and must have bored everyone with my postings on this subject, I simply can't find a combination that works reliably under WM6 - none of the Radio versions seem able to cope.
It is interesting that this has not been addressed yet, it is a fundamental issue to using the XDA as a business communication tool.
It would be good if one (or more) of the excellent XDA Developers could try & solve this before delivering any more builds that tweak minor settings & deliver questionable value to a limited audience (I hope this doesn't sound like a whinge, it is not, I like the work done here & enjoy the new feaures).
Well done for setting this up as a dedicated thread.
While I was on aku 3.2 Jwright it was smooth as sailing with radio 1.09. After moving onto wm6 there is a feeling of disatisfaction.
few hangups, communication is not very smooth, missed calls occasionally and sluggish. This is being faced very regularly.
Well!. hope to see a good solution soon.
SpyderTracks said:
This is actually a well documented problem amongst some Radio ROMs with WM6. Each person will tell you a different favourite Radio ROM and the only real way to find one that works for you is to test them.
My personal favourite out of quite a few that I've tested is 1.13, locality UK. Works fine for me, boosted signal performance and reconnection for data is fine for my needs, but then I don't use Push eMail or anything that requires permanent connection so I might not be the best judge for that kind of stability.
1.15 has just been released and a lot of people are saying it's the best, haven't tried it myself yet.
There is a thread titled "which radio rom works best where you are?", contains a lot of post stating which is their favourite Radio in their particular location, should help you along the way. Sorry, would give you a link, but feeling lazy
Hope it helps.
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Ive been through every radio ROM from 1.09.00 and up. The one I found working best for me is 1.15.00 but the issue isnt resolved. It will still happen To see if the radio is actualy better than others I flashed the stock WM5 ROM to my 9000 again to see if it will occur there as well, but no sigar. WM5 is having no problems.
It happens stricktly on WM6 ROM (any version, and any radio) :'(
push mail best option
Hello
So which ROM is the best option for a working push mail?
From the above comments I guess a WM5 - which brings another question : which one is the faster/most stable, at least to compare with WM6 ?
From what I've read, Jwrigh 3.2 seems to be better than Helmi 3.5
A side questions: can anyone do manual activesync to mail2web with SSL enabled?
Thanks
guylhem said:
Hello
So which ROM is the best option for a working push mail?
From the above comments I guess a WM5 - which brings another question : which one is the faster/most stable, at least to compare with WM6 ?
From what I've read, Jwrigh 3.2 seems to be better than Helmi 3.5
A side questions: can anyone do manual activesync to mail2web with SSL enabled?
Thanks
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My personal opinion goes to the Qtek factory ROM. It is pretty much vanilla and has decent speed and good reliability. The ROM works good with almost any radio version (1.15.00 is very nice)
As for WM6, many people have it running great, but I am having problems with radio stability.
Tested today again with radio 1.15.00 and the JWright 2.02.00 WWE Crossbow, and no luck. All morning was great, no hickups. And going home this afternoon the whole thing jams up. A little baloon stating that dailing failed or something of that matter. When I restarted the phone via Commmanager, it went working again but switching from UMTS to GPRS locked it up showing the baloon constantly
AFAIK, the developers are aware of this issue. Jwright did a few enhancements on 1.13 with the release of 2.02, it was better, but unfortunately still left a few glitches... Have faith though, I know these guys only do it as a little hobby, but they do come up with some incredible results 99% of the time
Honnestly - the work being done is truely amazing. I should know - I did maintain my own rom for the Sharp Zaurus 6000 so I can tell you how tough it is to fix small bugs - I remember spending weeks to find a workaround for a keyboard issue which was due to hardcoded stuff in Qtopia libraries (what a shame). I had to resort to kernel hacking to change the keycodes, then do the same for the console and Qtopia, etc.
I was contemplating to work on Linux for the Universal, but it is such a great device right now with WM6 that I don't want to spend time on that. I couldn't do much better with free software at the moment (except add more stability and run GAIM which can work behind http-proxy - I need that for my flat rate wap !). Push mail is a killing function.
Anyway, now that the network connectivity issue seems to be pinpointed to the OS (instead of the radio rom) maybe something will be possible ? On GNU/Linux, I would add a script to cron, to try to ping some IP, resolve a FQDN - whatever, and if the connection fail issue a stop/start to the ppp daemon. If this fails too, do the same to the GSM. It shouldn't be very hard to code on WM.
I really enjoy the Universal - good form factor, almost complete (I would just add GPS and more RAM). It is really useful to me in my "off-line" life.
Guylhem
I couldnt agree more on how much great work is done on the Universal (Or any other HTC device for that matter ) And I have great faith in the experts on this forum that a solution will be found
i have tried Jwrights WM6 ROm with 1.13 and 1.15 Radio, the GPRS never connrcts in Egypt. i then tried Darkforces ROM with 1.13 and 1.15 Radio again the GPRS never connects in Egypt.
i then tried Jwrights Rom with Radio 1.09 and the GPRS works 100%. i think there are some issues with WM6 and 1.13 and 1.15 Radio Roms.
does anyone have any other thoughts?
Ill give 1.09 another try over here in the Netherlands te see if there are any minor differences I can spot (Currently using 1.15.00)
Hmmm,
I've got two places were I go on the internet using gprs/umts. And it gives two different results. But when you look at the coverage it can't be a coincidence. Beause at home i lose my signal when it switches between gprs and umts which it does all the time. And at that adres the coverage for just umts is not that good but that for gprs is. really annoying.
But at that other place i have a superb connection with a great signal. and that coincides with the coverage.
So it means that what is important is how a certain rom handles the changes between umts and gprs. Which is already known now is the question who makes sure that the change between umts and gprs goes smoothly??
Biffert said:
Ill give 1.09 another try over here in the Netherlands te see if there are any minor differences I can spot (Currently using 1.15.00)
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I'm also in the Netherlands (Arnhem-Utrecht) and I've tried lots of radio roms.
In my view it's true that wm5 works with different roms then WM6.
I've tried 1.12 (fixed) 1.15 and 1.09 with WM6
1.09 is in my view the best, 1.12 and 1.15 both had problems with the BT and the device hanging when soft-resetting.
I'm going to try 1.14.10 1.13 and 1.10 also to see which off those works best.
Hello, I am have upgraded my imate SP5m device to WM6.
I have also upgrade the radio to WM6GSMUPDATE.zip.
My country is Costa Rica (code +506).
I think there is a bug in the GSM radio or WM6.
All my contacts have the +506 prefix in their number, when somebody with number +506XXXXXXX call me the phone detects the phone number as XXXXXXX and then the contact information cannot be found.
Is there something that I can tweak to fix this?
I didn't have this problem on WM5.
Regards,
Oscar
Try to see your regional settings
Another one from CR
Ocalvo, I'm in Costa Rica too, I sell and distribute HTC in CR. I have several customers that have the exact same problem, some of them have the +506 so when they are out of the country they can use international roaming or a sim from another carrier. People in other countries are also suffering from this, but if they never travel internationally, probably they won't even notice.
I haven't been able to fix the problem for months, been posting on every forum I can find, still no results.
Here is what I can contribute, the problem never happens on WM5, but it is not always present on WM6. We have a couple of models that have WM6 and dont have this problem, like the P3600 and the S630.
Our best selling phone has this problem and we haven't been able to solve it. All SMS come with the +506 attached to the beginning so it does not ID any messages, same happens with calls.
I have even flashed a P4350 that worked fine with WM5 and does not work with WM6, but I have an HTC S630 with WM6 that works perfectly. Barajeme eso!!!!
Well, I will continue to research this problem...
Regards,
Beeche
SOLVED
Ocalvo,
Modify the registry like this:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Phone\CallIDMatch and
hklm\security\phone\PBLookupMinPhoneNumberLength
change the value from 8 to 7 for Costa Rica
See, we have seven numbers to match before the International dailing code.
That will solve the problem, if you have any questions call me at the # that you have in your PM.
Regards,
Beeche
Thanks Beeche
obcr said:
Ocalvo,
Modify the registry like this:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Phone\CallIDMatch and
hklm\security\phone\PBLookupMinPhoneNumberLength
change the value from 8 to 7 for Costa Rica
See, we have seven numbers to match before the International dailing code.
That will solve the problem, if you have any questions call me at the # that you have in your PM.
Regards,
Beeche
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Thanks Beeche,
It worked for me.
I didn't know there was an HTC distributor in CR, way cool!!!!
Do you give support? I am getting tired of giving support for free for all my friends in with HTC phones/pocketPCs.
Do you have a store?
Do you have a store?
Store
Ocalvo,
Yes, we give support, we are located in Escazu, if you need anything you can call my office at 228-9800, I left my cell in a private message for you.
We carry all of HTC models and some E-Ten's. We give full support and warranty.
Regards,
Oscar Beeche
I'm not really convinced by the integrated Radio software of my Polaris. I would like to know if somebody know an alternative ?
What I search for is a software that allow me to wrote the name of the station (not only the frequency as into the Polaris). I've also remarked that the Audio Booster have any influence on the Radio. About this, I'm not sure that it is a bug with my Bepe WM 6.1 ROM (if someone can test it with an official HTC ROM, I'll be interested to know if this is a general problem or maybe "normal").
Thanks in advance for your feedback !
Hello my Friend!
Audio Booster doesn't do anything with my original French Rom.
I agree: the lack of station name is unpleasant
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Jules Winnfield said:
Hello my Friend!
Audio Booster doesn't do anything with my original French Rom.
I agree: the lack of station name is unpleasant
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It a pleasure to see that we are two ;-) Welcome to the club of unhappy
Three, now we are three at least
I'm not so happy about default HD FM radio software. I use it also into the car and after a while the device turn off leaving the radio on...very ugly
Do you know ho to keep the light off but device on with the FM radio on?
Hey, this is one of feature I am going to write.
I also want to write name for my favorite stations so I started this FM radio project to write my own player.
However I am not sure if Polaris has same FMS API as Raphael etc.
Can you test it on your device please?
You may need device driver (FMS_API.dll and FMS.dll). they can be found from Diamond or raphael forum.
See my signature for downloading xFM Radio player.
Now we are four.
Five... I miss station name too...
Now six from spain!
now 7 from UK!
vectorbl said:
Three, now we are three at least
I'm not so happy about default HD FM radio software. I use it also into the car and after a while the device turn off leaving the radio on...very ugly
Do you know ho to keep the light off but device on with the FM radio on?
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you can either set the batery settings to stay always on and press the uper button to turn the screen of (the radio wiill keep on playing), OR get a lighter adapter
now 8. from czech republic
How about offering some alternative instead of counting ? Every time i see this thread bumped up, i read the posts, hoping someone would post something meaningful. Yet, all i see is "me too" with a count :-( There are way more than 8 ppl want this, take a look at the views count of the thread.
9 from portugal
now 10 from malaysia
With all the radio choices, I don't know which is the best one for bluetooth.
I use a wireless bluetooth stereo headset a lot so want a radio with best bluetooth stack so I can minimise/stop crackling.
I have searched through the forums but cannot find a clear answer.
In terms of Rom I'm using, I currently am using a 6.1 WWE rom but was thinking about changing to a PDA one(either 6.1 or 6.5).
Would choice of custom rom affect radio a lot?
Where are you located and what network are you on.it would help a lot.
For even better answers. Check the radio section that is pinned at the top of the forum
Sorry, I'm in the UK on T-Mobile.
the bluetooth stack in the rom itself has more to do with it than the radio does...pda roms are usually on point as far as BT goes, i would start with v7, also make sure that you have either SPL 3.29 or 3.34, and then one of the recommended radios for that rom series. check for posts in the pda thread from other guys in the uk as far as what might be the best radio and go from there.
Please use the existing radio thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Thread closed.
Dave