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Hello
We’re a few developers who have tried to develop this application Avot mV, running on most of Windows mobile 5.0 and newer phone with the idea of searching and playing any video from video sharing sites like YouTube, Google Videos, DailyMotion and other web locations.
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We’re looking at people to download this application and provide feedback to improve the product. This will help us liberate windows mobile users to watch what they want.
You can download the latest version of application by pointing the mobile browser to http://avotmv.com

This looks pretty cool. I'll give it a try and let you know how it goes. Thanks!

Man this is really great work. I don't see why that app hasn't got any resonance yet if you think about all the tcmpc streaming approaches...
The only cons i find is that you can't chose the site you want to search (e.g. only veoh.com, or only youtube.com). A menu in which you can demand a specific site as source would be wonderful.
and then, the screen format is odd. if it ran fullscreen, most videos would fit, but this way they are either cropped or shown in the wrong size. specially in non-landscape mode.
but other than that, it works perfectly. video and audio stream very stable over wifi with my prophet annd without overclocking, which isn't the case with tcmpc and flashvideobundle.
keep up the good work, this is what people wanted for a long time, obviously

does this work over EDGE?

This is a pretty cool program. Please continue to develop it.
I have to agree with E_Shinobi though, it would be nice to have an option to only surf one type of site. Maybe add a menu for users to pick if they want to view Youtube videos or Google videos.
Is there a list of all supported sites? What other sites will we be able to view in the future? I know there are a lot of them these days.

Very nice program, but not all results show at this time. But I assume this is something you are working on. Also, if I accidently hit a key, like the start menu key, the program gets glitchy.

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does this work over EDGE?
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Theoretically, yes. However, depending on where you are, your EDGE signal might not be able to provide enough throughput to stream the video at full speed. In fact, I'm going to hazard a guess at "yes, but..." if you let the video buffer, you should be OK. I just tested the service on AT&T's EDGE in South Jersey (four bar signal), with a 15 second clip from Google Video, and it was OK, a long buffering time, a little stuttering towards the middle, but otherwise OK. I also tested it with a six minute clip from YouTube called the "Hubblecast" (Hubblecast 07, to be precise) and it stuttered a little, but that might have been the CPU being a little overloaded. After about 30 seconds, it seemed to hang. It might be just too much visual complexity, but it's also possible that EDGE just isn't fast enough to keep up. After a pause for 20 seconds or so, the video played OK, until it hung again. When I switched over to WiFi, I experienced similar results. So the problem might be the Dash just isn't fast enough to handle Atov at this early stage, or the servers are being slammed and destroying quality of service.
My biggest disappointment is the lack of a full screen option, or an option where the video is properly scaled, and not just smashed into the available space. Also, I'm using this on my Dash, and the thing seemed picky about how much RAM was available. I'm using the stock T-Mo firmware, and after running a few apps, it's hard to free up more than 5 MB or so, but that seems to be just enough.

This thread needs to be bumped.

Runs choppy on my Mogul, I think it's because of a directdraw issue with the mogul. Is there any way to change the output driver to GDI? How does it handle compression, I don't have flash installed, and it still streams. I would love to hear some more details on how the program actually works.
Dustin

running quite well on my wizard sometimes a little choppy, also couldnt work out how to get full screen but that was probably just me.

On my tornado, when the video is playing, I can't stop it, it just hanged while the video is playing.
Pressing home button, I can see the home screen blinking behind the video, but then late the video overlap it back

have been looking for somthing like this for some time so will defiantly be giving it a go thanks

Not working on New Att Tilt 6.1
window pop up say:
Network connectivity is
very low!!! Please try after
sometime.
But i can play youtube on my phone

Audible Player Skin

For those who like audio books like me, I've made a skin for the Audible Player. It's a similar theme of the WM Dialer skin with Dutty's 7b Non-touch ROM. If you've seen the default skin for this player... you understand why I made this.
It is a subscription service and I recommend it. I just don't have time to read as much as I'd like to I listen to these audio books on my commute to work. It's not very easy reading books on a 240x320 screen.
If you want to know more:
http://www.audible.com/adbl/site/offers/howItWorks.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes
Here are some screens of the skin:
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Installation
1. Run APWMInstall.exe from your PC while synch to your device (if you don't have Audible Installed)
- Installs AudibleAir to download your books files to your PDA
- Installs AudiblePlayer
2. Download your audiobooks to your device or storage card for playback (need Audible account)
3. Place Audibleplayer_Kaisergreyskin.cab on your device and double click. Cab will begin install. Select to install to the same place you installed the AudiblePlayer (I recommend installing the programs to your Device since the memory requirement is low for the programs. You can have your books files defaulted to your storage card separately).
4. Open Audible Player
- Select Menu >> AudiblePlayer Skins...
- Kaiser_Grey should be now installed and selectable.

I was absolutely thrilled to see this skin. I had made a couple of skins for previous versions, but never got around to this one.
I'm getting ready to install in now.
I'm curious, I've been having problems with downloading full books to my ATT Tilt (after having easily and successfully downloaded hundreds to my 6700).
I've recently flashed to one of Dutty's ROMs and am hopeful it will fix it. Have you experienced any problems?
Also, I have an old utility called btaudio that opens the audio channel so you can listen via bluetooth, would be happy to post it if appropriate. I usually map it to a hard key.

I can tell you that this application posted on this thread works perfectly on Duttys 7b hydrid ROM. There is also another way to do this.. by using Audible Manager and linking it with the free Micro$oft Reader... although I haven't tried this. Now that I made this skin.. it looks really nice and maTches the WM6 dialer on the 7b ROM, so I'll probably stick with it.
If you wouldn't mind, could you post the bt utility here. I could search for it, but it would make it convenient for anyone else who wanted to try this out. Thanx.

I've installed your version and it seems to be working better (at least it appears to be downloading a book correctly while connected to ActiveSync).
Are you able to download full books via the wireless data connection/AudibleAir? I experimented with it a bunch and found that it wouldn't work unless I selected 60 minutes or less.
I figured it may have been something to do with the ATT network (I was formerly Verizon) or a problem dealing with my 8GB SD card.
Just copy it to the device and it can be run directly from there. If you name it something different, you can even use a voice command to launch it.
By the way, I've had contact with somebody on the development team and they indicate that there 'is some new stuff in the pipe (finally)' and that they hope to have something to give us in early 2008.
Happy Listening!
Here is the btaudio file.

Oh wow... I didn't notice that. My wifi won't download through audible air, even though the internet is working fine with my Opera Browser. hmmmm? I tried several download settings.
I turned off wifi and was able to download a 2MB book over 3G(HSDPA) in about 10 seconds... very fast. I used quality of 2, 60 minutes, storage card... no problem.
Don't know why?
If you hear anymore about audible development pls post... there's probably not huge interest on this board for that but I'll be watching.
Thanks for the btaudio btw

@smuook,
I installed Dutty's v3 last night and it includes a BTAudioToggle App that I was able to map to the PTT button. A little better than btaudio in that it turns it on or off.
I recall years ago participating in a thread where that one was cooked, but forgot all about itl

@smuook, check your PM.

For those having failures downloading full books via AudibleAir, I've found that turning off Direct Push email and/or Active Sync helps a BUNCH.

Google Maps Text Size

Is there anyway to make the text in Google Maps visible without using a microscope?

Subscribing. I want to know too.

also would like to know

i would like to know the same here

Me Too. I'm very interested.

it is quite tiny!

Miniscule.

I found that turning satellite view off made the letters appears big enough to read. Hope this helps someone.

What I don't understand is why, when selected, a scale one step larger than the maximum will start to load (with larger font and graphics) but then stops and defaults back to the maximum allowed.
Using a magnifying glass is very inconvenient

I just carry one of these with me everywhere I go, just in case I need to use google maps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_microscope

behrouz said:
I just carry one of these with me everywhere I go, just in case I need to use google maps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_microscope
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I hope you have a good carrying case for that
I carry these with the phone - in case I need to use Google Maps.
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I guess I'm the only one here that thinks it's an improvement. Admittedly I just had my eyes checked and I'm better than 20/20 with glasses so maybe that is the difference, but I can still read the streets on the map when holding the phone at arm length.
It is harder in satelite view but the text is the same size, it's just all the mess around the names that makes it hard to read.
I hope they keep it as it is, I want to see the streets without giant text covering the maps.
Edit: I attached a screenshot just so people can compare to see if it's the same they're getting.

What version of Google Maps do you have? my map resolution / street name size is no where near that large / legible.
Michael

Lol, now I feel like a jackass for complaining. I looked at your pic, and think it looks fine, so I looked back at my Google Maps, and I guess it is fine.
I think some of us are coming from the HTC 6800 with 320x240 screen resolution, so we're used to that.
But the program is GREAT!!! Love the street view addition (although I personally don't use it much other than to show off to my iPhone friends - but they have it too).

I have is version 2.1.0.10 of Google Maps.
When I zoom out, for a split second all the street names are shrunk and barely legible but then the screen redraws and the names go back to normal. I wonder if some people are stuck with that resolution that is one step smaller than the zoom level they should be at.
And I was wrong above, satellite view is definitely smaller text. It's still readable but not as easy as map view.

I believe the latest version is 2.3.0.9. That's what I have.

im getting my fuze on monday and i plan to use google maps alot, what i want to know if you set a route while in gps mode will it count down the miles till the next turn/checkpoint? and update to the next one? i know it doesnt have voice or turn by turn but i was just curious how it works with driving directions in gps mode. there are really no vids on youtube or anything showing how it works while moving

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im getting my fuze on monday and i plan to use google maps alot, what i want to know if you set a route while in gps mode will it count down the miles till the next turn/checkpoint? and update to the next one? i know it doesnt have voice or turn by turn but i was just curious how it works with driving directions in gps mode. there are really no vids on youtube or anything showing how it works while moving
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No, it doesn't do this. It pretty much calculates the route from where you were at the time of starting the route. You can use My Location to show where you are relative to the upcoming turn, but it doesn't function as a true navigation yet.
But don't be mistaken, this program is still amazing!

whiteblazer01 said:
I believe the latest version is 2.3.0.9. That's what I have.
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Dang you're right. I forgot that I just put on a new ROM, I guess the cab I had saved was the old one.
But even after the upgrade the text size stayed the same. Here's another screenshot if anybody wants to see the side by side of the old and the new.

I think the real issue here is that the text is actually embedded in images sent to your device from Google's map servers. That would mean that any fix for this would have to include a server-side component.
In addition, I'm pretty sure they'll have an aggressive server-side caching algorithm in order to increase performance for clients, which would probably use lots of storage space in their data-centers. For each new resolution they want to support server-side, they'll have to have a completely new image cache. I have no idea how expensive this might be, but it's possible that someone did a cost/benefit calculation, and given that VGA mobile devices aren't particularly common at this point, they may have decided it's not worth fixing ... yet.
I suggest you go to Google's mobile help forum and ask there, if you haven't already:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile
HTH, -Jake

Mapping software?

I am looking for software+maps (preferably UK OS maps) for cross-country walking. Viewranger would be ideal if it worked on WM. I see memory-map and ozi-explorer have been mentioned here. Any preferences or other recommendations?

My recommendation would be for Memory Map. I've tried it in the past, and was very impressed, and know keen walkers who rely on it. I liked being able to plan a route and 'preview' it, print maps and then program the GPS (I was using an external GPS with a different PDA then).
I don't know OziExplorer, but it looks as if it does similar things. There's an interesting comparison of the two if you do a search - basically it finds that Ozi has the better desktop version, but Memory Map is the better Pocket PC version.
Hope this helps.

I use Quo from Mapyx
I originally tried Memory Map & Anquet, these being the main rivals to each other. I found that the Anquet WM program has issues, so from the start that ruled them out, Memory Map was good, but the cost for the maps was a lot more than Quo, with Quo you can buy single map 'tiles' which I found suited my needs vs cost better.
When using the using the maps I found MM was complicated by having a massively complicated (IMO) licensing system, only thing that was a plus for MM was the WM program was smoother than Quo, in that Quo refreshes the map each time after you move it manually (fine when tracking via GPS), while MM is a live map (think the way Opera goes blocky when you move around a page and has to update.)

Thanks for the feedback both of you. For cheapness, I have installed Quo and bought the minimum number of map tiles. However, although they are loaded seamlessly on the PC, it seems that they have to be manually switched on the mobile. Also, I don't see how to directly copy the original map tiles from PC to mobile. Smaller versions seem to be created when 'export' is selected. I have contacted their support.

I use Ozi Explorer CE with topo map my country, long time (since 2006 on Mio701, now HTC Topaz) and for me is best, because OziExplorerCE have many,many navigation options. Map your country (UK) can found (googled) on the net... But spend your time i found what interest you:
GB Topo 1:50 000 calibrated and prepared for direct using in Ozi Explorer (Your signature say you have capacity memory card):
GB Topo 1:50 000
Regards

i use Everytrail

Mike Austin said:
Thanks for the feedback both of you. For cheapness, I have installed Quo and bought the minimum number of map tiles. However, although they are loaded seamlessly on the PC, it seems that they have to be manually switched on the mobile. Also, I don't see how to directly copy the original map tiles from PC to mobile. Smaller versions seem to be created when 'export' is selected. I have contacted their support.
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I agree that it isn't the clearest concept the way they get you to transfer the maps to the mobile. The way I work is to treat the map(s) of the country as a master map (I've got both 25k & 50k maps) then create an 'Area' of the part of the country I want to send to my mobile, in which res I want or both (25k & 50k).
For example I went to the Peak District earlier this year, so brought 25k & 50k maps of the area (25k for where I know I would go, with the 50k for the general location) then I marked out an 'Area', this 'Area' excluded some places that the maps I had brought covered, but that I knew I would not be visiting so reducing the file size of the maps to be transfered.
I actually find this way makes a lot of sense as you don't have to worry about transferring brought tiles, but can just transfer the area you need, even if that area crosses two brought tiles.
The only other thing, is when you've got two types of map (25k & 50k) they both need to be transfered individually, and then on the mobile loaded individually, also unlike the desktop application the mobile app won't zoom through the different maps, you need to load up either the 25k OR the 50k.
Overall I am still very happy with it, I think some of the issues with the mobile app are down to having to cater for the limited power of some mobile devices.
I'm happy to give any help I can.
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The first image is with the country map on, showing my created 'Area',
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the second image is showing the same area but with the country map off, the pink areas are my brought tiles (3 large are 50k, 1 small is 25k), and the green line is my 'Area'

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The first image is with the country map on, showing my created 'Area', the second image is showing the same area but with the country map off, the pink areas are my brought tiles (3 large are 50k, 1 small is 25k), and the green line is my 'Area'
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Thanks for the tip. It seems that our areas cross. Maybe we will bump into each other while we are squinting at our screens instead of looking where we are going!

Android Town

Ok, Android Town is now an obsolete name and application on the market. It was renamed to Peeples. Peeples is a seperate app on the market so you would need to download that one. It uses the same DB as Android Town so all your information is saved.
Peeples is a social community application which is location based. It enables users to see other users of the application on the map and strike up a conversation with them. Privacy options are also available.
So far the application has over 11k users.
Peeples has the added options of:
- uploading profile pictures and avatar through the application
- sending files from SD card with messages as attachments (5Mb limit for now)
Try it out and let me know what you think.
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Running it on a G1 running CM 4.2.15.1.
Noticed a few things.
1) Registration via App Only (not a big deal, just no indication on the site as such)
2) Registration within the app resulted in "passwords do not match" ANY time I left a password field even when they did match
3) Map reacts slowly when being moved or zoomed in/out
As there's no one yet in my area run ning this, I haven't tested many of the other features. I'll report as I experience more.

Thanks for giving it a try. Hopefully some more US citizens register so you'll be able to interact with them. 5000 kms (around 3100 miles) is the biggest radius so far. Most of the users are in Europe at the moment.
Thanks for the heads up on the registration part. I will definitely try to improve it.
I was also thinking about adding content from social networks if users have any (FB, Twitter, FLickr...). What do you think about that?
And thanks again for testing

Have yet to install the newer release for testing, but looking forward to it.
The concept of linking other social media is a fine idea, provided that there are switches set in place to allow for selected/unselected status. I know plenty of users who would want to publish information for their Facebook, but may want to avoid doing so on other networks.
Either way, yeah, further integration with social media is a fine idea.

ill install and test tmmrw probably

seems pretty cool ill make sure to throw it on my EVO as soon as it freakin comes out

Added to my G1. Will let you know what happens.

Cheers. I sent you a msg in the app as well. Can you test how the send message screen looks on lower resolution please?

Testing it out now , but not many *users* in norway.
I'm the only one

Application is still in its's early days. If you choose a larger radius you will see more users (around 45 accross the world right now)

Application has just been published to the market as well, under the Social category of applications.

How about making a public chat channel that every one is in , when we connect . And late maybe switch it so it will be local / country only.
All depending on how many users this app gets

That's actually a very good idea. I'll be sure to do that as soon as possible...shouldn't be that hard (at least for a single one for starters)

Good nice app!

Already tweeted this. I'll Buzz it as well.

Private Messages look fine on the G1. No issue there.
I'll be comparing my experience to my friend's on the Nexus. Hopefully provide you some better feedback concerning how this works with the G1's older hardware.
Edit: First things we noticed, "Passwords do not match!" error is still present when registering via the app, even if the passwords do match. This issue has been replicated on the G1 and the Nexus 1.
Other noted issues:
Attempt to "Add as friend" on the G1 results in a toast of "Error". No other information contained in error.
Sending a picture on the G1 took about 1 min 45 seconds from time of shot to "Picture sent!" toast showed up.
I'll see what I can do to provide better information (such as screenshots, etc)
Let me know what else you could use.

Just a thought, an option to register via the desktop(internet) as well.
i couldn't figure out how to register until I found it as an option in settings when the app was open.
Doh.
It's lonely in the south of england......

Working on the mentioned bugs as we speak. Will probably release an upgrade today that might fix a few things.
@squirreleater: the internet register option is definitely needed. I agree.

anyone from germany?
feature request: please include option to add user with the username directly so that people from here can invite eachother other than searching on the map

install
Wont install on my Hero ??