Don't get too excited.
Just noticed that they have rearranged the TMobile Download Manager at http://www.iris-global.com/t_mobile_download/mdas.html
and it now includes downloads for the MDA Compact II (like Magician but WM2005).
Before you ask, no, it does not work with the standard Magician. But interesting nonetheless, especially for playing with it.
YEs Lets get to Work guys Maybe we can open te install file and get out the rom file and do the same thing whit this rom when we do Bigstorage upgrade ?!
why can't some hackers port this ROM to the magician??
the only problem seems to be bussiness, so why not take everything except the cpu part from those ROMs and get the CPU part from a Himalaya or any Xscale CPU WM5 ppc??!!
isn't that possible??
The OS part of the nbf is practically the same as the Wizard OS part, identical size too. If someone was working on porting this to the Magician they would of started ages ago when those roms came out. It might look like a Magician but thats about it, the mdac2 has much more in common with the Wizard than the Magician.
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Hi everyone!
This is my first post, so I hope I get this right!
I've a T-Mobile MDA Compact 2 that has the T-Mo. branded ROM (ROM Ver: 1.12.2.23 WWE; Radio Ver:01.12.20) and I'd like to upgrade this to the latest (I've seen 1.13...) generic ROM easily!
Please consider: I've searched hi and low through these forums for upgrade tutorials, and have tried them out, but many complicate things with Big Storage and Ext. ROM etc. I've tried using the MaUpgradeUt_noID software but, after it reads the device's details (it's current ROM ver. etc), ActiveSync (on the desktop) terminates and I get an error "Error 101: Connection Error"!
All I want is to rid my MDA of T-Mo.'s software!
Currently I've hacked the regestry to change the Dialpad to WM5's default, replaced the Carrierlogo.gif with a blank, etc.
Please, anyone, can you tell me what I'm doing wrong, and why I can't upgrade my ROM!
Note: I've tried to be as detailed as I can! I'm fairly fluent in these sorts of things, so don't be scared about getting techincal, though please explain each and every step, as I've never done this before!
Thanks!
There are no other ROMs for the MDA compact II. This phone is a 'Charmer' and all the other posts in this section are talking about the 'Magician' which although the two look the same they are very different on the inside. A generic ROM is unlikely in the future because so far T-Mobile are the only carrier to produce this phone and most likely no one else will be.
Okay, I'll stick with my hacks for now. Thanks for letting me know though!
you can remove all the branding quite easily. changing the startup logo and editing the extended rom gets rid of most of it and replacing some of the .dlls and graphics with generic ones from another wm5 will get you back to the standard intellipad and dialler with working smartdialling.
All that's allready done! I've just got to change the startup graphic, but I'm not in any urgency, as I rarely restart the device!
Thanks for your input though!
I'm a bit confused, and i'm unsure to tell the difference. With all the roms floating out there in the forums, are they just WM 5.0 roms skinned? or actually a WM 6.0 rom?
Which ROM in particular are you referring to?? Faria's and mun's are both WM6 -- as are the MB rom and the Underground ROM. I know for sure all these are WM6 because I've flashed them all to my phone.
There are two versions of WM6 out there
1)The first one was a Japanese WM6 ROM releases for the HTC Hermes (Cingular 8525). This was then ported to the Wizard.
2)Faria says his latest rom uses the WM6 rom that is intended for release for the HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125).
Since we are on the subject,
what are the main advantage of WM6 over WM5?
I flashed MB rom about a month ago, and I use it for about 1 week before switching back to Faria's old ROM. People talk about speed, but in my opinion, it's about the same and a bit slower.
Maybe it's because I'm not used to the new system, but I think that some of the functions are more hassle, for example, the pin code. In WM5, u just put in your PIN and ta da, automatic you are logged in. in WM6, u have to push the unlock button after u keyed in your Pin. Another one is the message button at the left top of your wizard. in WM5, you push it and it automatically go to the last view message, i.e. either text message or SMS or email. in WM6 everytime you use the button, u have to choose where to go..
ANother things, most of WM6 released is pretty bare, that's maybe some of us find it faster. Since I'm already pampered with a lot of utils from the previous ROm, I found it too much hassle to go find and install all this necessary application into my PPC.
Just my thought
chiloco said:
ANother things, most of WM6 released is pretty bare, that's maybe some of us find it faster. Since I'm already pampered with a lot of utils from the previous ROm, I found it too much hassle to go find and install all this necessary application into my PPC.
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First, some of the things you mentioned about WM6 are configurable (like going to messaging and having to choose. I turned that off so it works like WM5 for me).
As for being bare, yes some are and thats what some like. If you don't want bare, then try the Faria "the real thing" WM6. Its very similar to AKU 3.3 in that it has lots of stuff 9but not as much stuff ans WM6 is bigger and he couldn't put everything in it).
Good luck.
Good afternoon gang,
I have a few questions about TouchFLO.
I have a HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125). I have only flashed it once for the latest Cingular update. It is an unlocked device. I use it on the Rogers GSM network here in Canada.
Anyhow. I am curious about trying out the TouchFLO but I am not too sure if I want to flash my device just yet.
Is it possible to install any of the TouchFLO capabilities into the ARM Device Emulator?
I develop Windows Mobile applications as a day job but I've never had to deal with ROMs as we setup our apps to run on default factory devices.
We use Device Emulator heavily in our development however I have not seen a way to emulate flashing one.
The emulator boots .bin files.
Also addition questions.
Does the HTC Wizard require WM6 to run TouchFLO? I am pretty happy with my device right now and I see lots of forum posts about many SMS and call/radio issues with WM6 ROMS etc so all of these issues doesn't make it look like its a simple flash & works great kind of situation.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated
Thanks and take care.
Hey. I use and unlocked cingular 8125 with rogers. My phone is a G4 CID locked device. I have the latest rom by ovtaivoi which is a WM6 professional with touchflo software in it. i use the faria 2.69 radio rom and i have had no problems with sms or calls so far. i really love the touchflo software and its pretty sweet. as for your questions, I am not sure what you are talking about the emulator program, honestly. is it something you use on the computer to emulate and see how wm6 would look like? all the upgrade packages come with a .nbf file which is the main data file. if you are able to unpack it and repack it to a .bin file, you may be able to do what you want, but dont quote me on this as i'm still not sure as to what exactly you wanted to do. As far as if touch flow will work only on WM6, I cant say much about that either as i have only used it WM6. WM6 has a better graphics base when compared to WM5 and so i think touch flow would work better with WM6 but I don't think its limited to it.
What I would suggest is to flash the phone with the latest rom. Trust me, its worth it. All the work and skill that the developers have put into these roms really show itself in these roms. Make sure you read enough in this forum before you flash though. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Good luck.
Thanks for the reply!
I learned a lot about my device going through that procedure. It was SIM unlocked but not CID unlocked.
I went through everything and now have WM6 installed using the latest NBD ROM however I am finding the TouchFLO driver buggy. I cannot use my finger to press the "x" icon any more. Sometimes I press it and the start menu appears. Something is up with this touch driver in that release I think.
Also TouchFLO scrolling gestures don't work very reliable and it scrolls way too much.
Is this the case with all TouchFLO ROMs or is each ROM modifying touch capabilities and perhaps one ROM works better than the next?
Also is there a version of the HTC Home with that digital clock with a font about half the size so I can have a few more today screen plugins visible? I like it however its a bit too large.
Thanks and take care.
hi pls let me know the link to download it.
mail me at [email protected]
sorry for my bad english
i am a prof C++ programer
i know it sounds crazy but with the computer and programing there is no crazy
i just want a perfect rom for the Magician
why we are looking to the wm6 we want any good rom
we got the program
windows mobile 2003 rom editor
we got the rom on club i-mate
we got the cab of all good and great programs
we got one silly prob.
the passcode to edit the rom file
if i get it
give me 30 day to lunch the perfect rom
i think with the united we can make the WM Magician
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
So, if i understand you correct your plan is to create a wm6 rom for the magician, right? This would be really cool...
P.S.
kingt0t said:
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
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i think you mean "guys" when you say "gays"
good luck with your project!
Kingt0t, what you want to do ain't something that hasn't been thought before...yes, you can do a WM6 for magician (hell, you can invent a new OS if you wish...lol) The thing is...time.
There's no drivers for the magician hardware built inside any WM6 ROM...(well, not entirely true - there's probable a few WM 5/6 ROMs which might have a few drivers for our hardware - but not all that are required so to make a workable magician ROM).
You probably would need to create drivers for all missing/required magician hardware...oh and above all...you probably would need to create a special/new bootloader because it seems to me that since WM5, the bootloader has changed it's way of loading the Windows Mobile OSes... (They use what is now called IPL/SPL...)
I'm not trying to discourage you...it's just that we (xda community) have heard about so many people with the same thoughts, giving up after realizing the enormous amount of work that would be required so to build a working wm6 magician ROM
Anyway, if you're really into it, then start by studying what hardware the magician has and how it works...
I can give you a few ideias right now:
- The CPU (PXA272) uses what is called a strataflash (It is glued to the cpu), which i believe there's not many models with this concept(if any). Most of them uses what is called DOC (Disk On Chip).
(if this ain't true, please someone correct me if i'm wrong)
- IDK if there's a driver for this CPU model in any other PPC with WM5/WM6...
- You will probably need to disassemble alot of dlls / .sys / Etc, so to figure out the functions names; what do they do; how do they interact with the rest of the OS...etc...
- Last but not the least, you would need to strip out alot of stuff since the magician only has 64Mb ROM or you could study how HARET (for linux) works and how it allows us to boot a SD Card partition image...
oh well...start posting away if you need help...for shure some gurus in here will start dropping you ideias, concepts, tests that were already made...
Best Regards,
Keeper
P.S: honestely, if someday microsoft decides to release the source code for WM2003 (like they did for win9x and windows 2000), then maybe, just maybe, we will be able to compile a modified version with some parts of the WM 5/6/xxx...
Maybe this is a good start, at least for WM5?
Ubiquio 401 has the same PXA272 CPU and 64MB ROM as the Magician, but it comes with WM5. Perhaps the IPL/SPL and CPU drivers that come with the FW will make less work for some smart person to make a custom Magician ROM.
Here is the Ubiquio 401 ROM, maybe somebody can extract some useful stuff from it:
ubiquio-401-v1.12.26.rar
I think it's also the same as the Gigabyte g-Smart i. g-Smart i uses WM5 AKU2. I don't know which AKU the Ubiquio uses.
Gnat,
There's one big issue in all this... When someone wants to seriously mess around with an operating system and it's "BIOS" (aka booloader) having direct access to the hardware is a must. Since we don't know the JTAG test point pins for the magician and knowing that no one is willing to trash their magician so that we can find out where they are located on the magician's PCB, (which would allow us to test various bootloaders + roms, without the risk of loosing our magicians), i doubt that anyone in here is willing to do blind tests with different model ROMs / Cooked roms, without some sort of backup like this one.
Check the last pages of this thread so to see what i'm talking about...(hell, check all this thread so to see what can happen when you flash something and there's a problem with it or along the installation of it...) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319354
So, if you're willing to do this ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WallabyJTAG )...or know someone that is, then we might be able to start doing something... :-|
If we had JTAG access, we could start using the Windows CE 5.0 Evaluation Kit which would allow us to communicate directly to the hardware via JTAG and test cooked bootloaders and ROMs. (check this link for more info: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa447041.aspx )
Keeper
hope this dream come true....WM6 or just WM5 for IMATE JAM
kingt0t said:
sorry for my bad english
i am a prof C++ programer
i know it sounds crazy but with the computer and programing there is no crazy
i just want a perfect rom for the Magician
why we are looking to the wm6 we want any good rom
we got the program
windows mobile 2003 rom editor
we got the rom on club i-mate
we got the cab of all good and great programs
we got one silly prob.
the passcode to edit the rom file
if i get it
give me 30 day to lunch the perfect rom
i think with the united we can make the WM Magician
the russin gays did it and they give us the txx rom right i think we can do it too
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if you do this, many will make a donation for your hard work...a NEW WM5 or WM6 ROM FOR the MAGICIAN.
Wow, that's a lot of work to find JTAG points. I have even more respect for people like Helmi if he had to find JTAG points for every device he has made a WM5 and WM6 for!
I don't think I will be finding the JTAG points on my Magician - I don't want to kill it! However, if anyone has a dead, fried or water damaged Magician, I will gladly pull the BGA off and trace the JTAG points.
If the JTAG points have a specific "signature" when viewed on an oscilloscope, I would be happy to trace them that way since I do have a 100MHz DSO available.
i hope too, this dream to ours magician
Oh btw...the taxist russian guy which released the 2.01~3TX rom did NOT made a WM6 for the magician - He simply opened up a magician ROM, changed a few icons, sounds, apps and packed it again...the Operating system still is WM2003se.
if you guys want to try and mod your own roms, use the following tools: alpinenbfdecode.pl, splitrom.pl and dumprom. They are available at the itsme website. ( http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/ )
Anyway, check this thread...there's a small script on how to re-create the XIP structure: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=3924&st=1020#entry744997
Once again, this ain't gonna change your OS (there's no WM5/6 IPL/SPL for the magician) - it will only allow you to mod a few things... :-(
Keeper
Zoneaone
It very fantastic for your effort. thanks.
are you still there kingT0T?
ok guys hold on you are not making it easy i think it is mush simpler then you think
we need wm6 for jam
we dont have to edit wm6 to make it work on jam
we can upgrade the wm2003se to be wm6\5
we can find upgrads and some great programs to creat a wm2003se rom "main platform" looks like the wm6 and include some services in it like the voice command and renew the dailer and add some upgrades i think this is mush better coz we will not play with fire we can just try to make the perfect choise in 2003 rom with some upgrades and patches right
okey kingt0t...so what you want to do is something like taxist did...a modded ROM with a WM2k3 kernel core...
Well, one thing that i would suggest that you could start doing, would be a new bluetooth stack based on the WM 2k5/2k6 one (widcomm, i think)...
Anyway, idk russian and has so, i don't understand much of what is said on that link, but what i did understand is that taxist found a way of modifying the programs in a way that he could insert them has XIP (eXecution In Place), without breaking the expected original execution addresses...the thing is: he never revealed how he has done it...
There's a few guys in there that are trying to do what he has done by using the three tools that i've posted previously, but idk if they did acomplished the "XIP chain ROM address redirectioning"...
Regards,
Keeper
kingt0t said:
ok guys hold on you are not making it easy i think it is mush simpler then you think
we need wm6 for jam
we dont have to edit wm6 to make it work on jam
we can upgrade the wm2003se to be wm6\5
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First prioduce a WM5.0 ROM instead of talking!
Yés kingtot wm6 4 Magician it is not a dream,it is a mirage...
kingt0t said:
we can find upgrads and some great programs to creat a wm2003se rom "main platform" looks like the wm6 and include some services in it like the voice command and renew the dailer and add some upgrades i think this is mush better coz we will not play with fire we can just try to make the perfect choise in 2003 rom with some upgrades and patches right
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I'm not sure I understand. You want a WM2003SE that only looks like WM5/WM6? But then it can't run WM5/WM6-specific apps... what purpose is that? I hardly see the point. If that's what you want, it already exists and besides, you can just use Wisbar or something similar and make a theme.
WM2003SuperSe must run wm5 apps. it's main task !!!!
still dream or stop
what's going on?
wm6 again became dream
Hello everyone, I've been searching all these roms but it seems that there isn't one single ROM with manilla. Can I install this on Universal? Tks
Short answer? No.
Long answer? Manilla (aka TouchFlow 3D) requires far too much RAM and processing resources to run properly on our Uni's. The biggest problem is (seems to be?) the lack of decent hardware drivers, since HTC wrote custom ones for the TouchPro, etc.
Of course it's a few months since I even attempted using any of the ports, so things may have changed, though I somehow doubt it.
-PJC
pjc007 said:
Short answer? No.
Long answer? Manilla (aka TouchFlow 3D) requires far too much RAM and processing resources to run properly on our Uni's. The biggest problem is (seems to be?) the lack of decent hardware drivers, since HTC wrote custom ones for the TouchPro, etc.
Of course it's a few months since I even attempted using any of the ports, so things may have changed, though I somehow doubt it.
-PJC
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But what about the 2D version?
I had one in my qtek 9090 (which is older than uni) and it ran just fine!
u can use this big-mem ROM by Cotulla: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468776 and install manila2d .. but if u have 64Mb uni, u will be memory low for something more with manila (i got 15-10Mb free with my 64Mb-Uni) .. its work very nice in portal mode.. and its so big, great for in-car use or similar
after install of manila, they will be small, not on full screen.. you must find VGA theme for manila2d .. search on forum
this is easy for install, ask if is problem find .. i think that on 128Mb uni it is will work very nice
//sorry for bad eng, big hello from Serbia
I would recommend to use ThrottleLauncher (just Google for it).
With the TF3D theme and with the Manila WeatherPanel installed it is great and fast (10-15 MB RAM, yes I know, but with a 128 MB Uni it's awesome ). But if you turn on the flash clock you will see, how many resources it needs, and it works only with 2-3 fps. But at least it is very customizable...
That's it,
DOMy