Good afternoon gang,
I have a few questions about TouchFLO.
I have a HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125). I have only flashed it once for the latest Cingular update. It is an unlocked device. I use it on the Rogers GSM network here in Canada.
Anyhow. I am curious about trying out the TouchFLO but I am not too sure if I want to flash my device just yet.
Is it possible to install any of the TouchFLO capabilities into the ARM Device Emulator?
I develop Windows Mobile applications as a day job but I've never had to deal with ROMs as we setup our apps to run on default factory devices.
We use Device Emulator heavily in our development however I have not seen a way to emulate flashing one.
The emulator boots .bin files.
Also addition questions.
Does the HTC Wizard require WM6 to run TouchFLO? I am pretty happy with my device right now and I see lots of forum posts about many SMS and call/radio issues with WM6 ROMS etc so all of these issues doesn't make it look like its a simple flash & works great kind of situation.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated
Thanks and take care.
Hey. I use and unlocked cingular 8125 with rogers. My phone is a G4 CID locked device. I have the latest rom by ovtaivoi which is a WM6 professional with touchflo software in it. i use the faria 2.69 radio rom and i have had no problems with sms or calls so far. i really love the touchflo software and its pretty sweet. as for your questions, I am not sure what you are talking about the emulator program, honestly. is it something you use on the computer to emulate and see how wm6 would look like? all the upgrade packages come with a .nbf file which is the main data file. if you are able to unpack it and repack it to a .bin file, you may be able to do what you want, but dont quote me on this as i'm still not sure as to what exactly you wanted to do. As far as if touch flow will work only on WM6, I cant say much about that either as i have only used it WM6. WM6 has a better graphics base when compared to WM5 and so i think touch flow would work better with WM6 but I don't think its limited to it.
What I would suggest is to flash the phone with the latest rom. Trust me, its worth it. All the work and skill that the developers have put into these roms really show itself in these roms. Make sure you read enough in this forum before you flash though. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Good luck.
Thanks for the reply!
I learned a lot about my device going through that procedure. It was SIM unlocked but not CID unlocked.
I went through everything and now have WM6 installed using the latest NBD ROM however I am finding the TouchFLO driver buggy. I cannot use my finger to press the "x" icon any more. Sometimes I press it and the start menu appears. Something is up with this touch driver in that release I think.
Also TouchFLO scrolling gestures don't work very reliable and it scrolls way too much.
Is this the case with all TouchFLO ROMs or is each ROM modifying touch capabilities and perhaps one ROM works better than the next?
Also is there a version of the HTC Home with that digital clock with a font about half the size so I can have a few more today screen plugins visible? I like it however its a bit too large.
Thanks and take care.
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Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
WM6.0...
The new look and a lot faster device...
Is there any feature that won't be available with WM6, that did work fine in WM5?
Thanks,
vma
Video call isn't working yet.
Rolud said:
The new look and a lot faster device...
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The way I see it, WM6 may or may not work for you and may or may not do it for you. Try it. You can always go back to WM5. Most people don't.....
Well .... the simple answer is that I did a lot of searching and reading, and finally tried it out for myself.
I asked this very question a while ago right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1130569&postcount=88
And came to the follwowing conclusion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1155497&postcount=89
In the conclusion, the thing about the Bluetooth Stack / Voice Command - it was actually Voice Command that was the problem and this issue was fixed in Jrwightmcps' 2.02.00 WWE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297256
Crossbow ONLY!
Tell you the truth... i see the new WM6 is better eye-catching GUI not to mention the enhancement in the functionality and other usability such as email related functions. I know that MS wont just upgrade for no obvious reason nor for desktop OS compatibility.
Yet i reckon i wont -never- go back to magento! Crossbow ONLY!
@nvatvani:
Indeed your posts where the only ones I read, that contained some usefull info about the subject.
No offense to all the other members of course!
I was simply wondering about what to do when my MDA Pro arrives: replace the German firmware with a WWE WM5 one or go straight ahead to WM6 without even looking at WM5.
Also, I had some problems with my Blue Angel, when I tried WM5 on it: it may have been a coincidence, but one day after the upgrade the screen went mad and totally messed up. Only 1 Hardreset in about 100 tries would bring it back to normal for some period of time and even reflashing it with WM5 or 2003SE would not make it work normal again. The screen would get messed up suddenly for no particular reason. At the end I had to send it in for repair, which was actually a good thing, as I complained about the loose stylo and bad working hardkeys, all within warranty. I got a new key-pcb, backside and they reflashed the device with 2003SE. I posted this issue in the BA forum, but got no usefull hint. This means I am a little scared of upgrading to unofficial releases.
Other than that, I have no problems with flashing, as I do that on my other hobby (satellite receivers) frequently, including JTAG-operations for repairing bricked devices. The same applies to games consoles. (Note: I do not sell or benefit commercially from that activity and my goal is not to get illegal software or TV - not that you guy's get the wrong idea about me).
Anyway, thanks for your replies!
Cheers,
vma
What Windows Mobile 5.0 AKU 2.0 has and Windows Mobile 6 (the cooked ones, having tried them all) doesn't have, according to my experiences:
1. Videocalling - at least not a proper one
2. Bluetooth Dial Up Networking (the DUN profile)
3. Wireless Modem (yet some WM6 ROM's have it, although without shortcut in the start menu)
4. Cyberon Voice Dial by default (some WM6 ROM's have it by default, others will need a 500kB CAB to activate it)
The reason why I went back to "good old" WM5 is mainly the reliability. Ok, the OS may be a bit slower here and there, but it has all the functionality (e.g. videocalls and Bluetooth DUN), and NEVER hangs. It just always works and that's what I desperately need right now.
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The things Windows Mobile 6 has for me that 5.0 hasn't which I miss the most:
1. High resolution browsing in the normal Internet Explorer (I don't want to use alternatives)
2. HTML email support
3. The impressive speed of the OS
Applications like WM6's Windows Live and the superb Remote Desktop Client are also available for WM5, so I don't need to miss those, otherwise I sure would, and then I might have sticked with WM6.
The new sounds and GUI are great, but I don't really miss them, since that's not a true functional thing.
Having WM5 up and running again, without freezes and memory leaking and with full HTC Universal functionality, is enough for me to be happy with it and to stick with it. If there ever will be a ROM that actually ADDS Windows Mobile 6 on top of all of this (without a single registry tweak or CAB fix needed), then it's the time for me to upgrade again.
If such a ROM will ever see the daylight, since it won't be officially available for the Universal, I don't know. I think the HTC X7500 (Athena) will be there sooner (April 2007 over here), and that one will have a official WM6 upgrade for sure. That'll be my next one, so until then: WM5 for my Universal!
So far for my opinion.
why do I use WM6
vma said:
Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
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To be honest, I used them all and later delteted them after 5 2 hours. They leak a lot, ram is at minimum and useless third party applications, and a lot fo thing sodn't really work or missing (I just want a vanill aone without 3rd party applications).
Except for one rom, Darkforce, it is fast and furious, and so far I have using it for two days; battery usage is good, and no leaks. However, no video calling, and no way to set com ports for bluetooth devices. any1 has this problem?
However, common to all ROMS, no video calling, old calculator, speed dial messed up (some work and some don't), wireless connection bubble missing (yes you can install a cab but I don't want to do that).
<Mind you, contrary to other reports, I never had any freezes with any rom.
The thing that attracts me is HTML in email, High resolution mode in explorer, better remote desktop connectivity.
So I thhink I am sticking with DarkForce ROM, so far so good.
Thx
Hi,
I am about to purchase an AT&T Tilt and I would really like to learn how to modify this thing. I've been surfing the forums and there all these these different types of ROMs and all of that. I have a basic understanding but I just had a few questions:
1) Anyone have a generally recommended ROM? Dutty's looks like to be a popular one so far.
2) What does "radio-only" and radio in general mean in the context of the Tilt?
3) Can I Sync this thing with a Mac?
Thanks a ton for the help!
Noob myself but here is your answeres i am sure someone will correct me if i am wrong!
1. There is too many to choose from, currently i am sticking to official roms
2. Radio roms are like radio drivers and you should use the one recommended for the rom you are going to choose.
3. Of course (software required)
Dutty version 6
Me a WM noob too!
Be sure to keep a backup of your official ROM in case you want to go back to it. Use Sprite Backup that's available on the HTC CD.
There are far too many ROMs floating around. Schaps is unable to provide much support, I gather. I'm still learning myself about the others.
I have used Dutty's Full version 6, it is extremely stable and lightning fast. v 7 has too many issues, and I had to go back to v6 after installing v7 on my TyTn II, but I'm sure Dutty the Master will turn v7 into as fine a ROM as v76 in due time. Till then, I would stick to v6.
The radio essentially refers to the phone hardware drivers on the unit that handles all calling, including video and wireless, but not the software diallers.
WMNovice said:
Me a WM noob too!
Be sure to keep a backup of your official ROM in case you want to go back to it. Use Sprite Backup that's available on the HTC CD.
There are far too many ROMs floating around. Schaps is unable to provide much support, I gather. I'm still learning myself about the others.
I have used Dutty's Full version 6, it is extremely stable and lightning fast. v 7 has too many issues, and I had to go back to v6 after installing v7 on my TyTn II, but I'm sure Dutty the Master will turn v7 into as fine a ROM as v76 in due time. Till then, I would stick to v6.
The radio essentially refers to the phone hardware drivers on the unit that handles all calling, including video and wireless, but not the software diallers.
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Schaps might not be able to provide too much support - but his roms are very good. I've been using them since his first Hermes Rom. Besides, his threads are usually very active and others provide the support when he isn't able to (as with all roms).
The radio is basically the part that allows your phone to talk to the cellular network. A "radio only" rom includes only the radio upgrade and does not include any operating system. This is good if you want to upgrade the radio without having to completely re-install applications, settings etc on the phone. BUT if anything fails when flashing a radio it is easy to brick your phone. For this reason you should install hardSPL (in my signature) which will allow you to recover your phone if anything else goes wrong.
Wow thanks! Someone mentioned software dialers. What is that exactly? I'm assuming its just a front-end for dialing numbers on the phone like how they look and stuff. Am I correct?
Even though some of us shadow/juno users don't have a section up here yet, are there any works in progress for wm6.1? I know they have it for the dash so I am not sure how much different it would be for the shadow/juno.
ya i would seriously love this haha i really want a 6.1 shadow rom with threaded text messaging
I would like to see it too
I would love to see a Juno/Shadow section
we've been fighting for an htc s640 forum for a few weeks now, they just ignore us lol, so i doubt you guys are going to get one as well anytime soon heh..
we're also poking around for a wm6.1 rom, no luck
dont' worry guys, you're not the only ones!
It sure would be nice to have our own section for the JUNO/Shadow, and I find it hard to believe that none of these ROM cookers have not been working on a WM6.1 custom rom for the shadow.
The 3125 has been a staple of the smartphone community for too long, and anyone who has used the shadow can appreciate the larger screen and better camera found in the shadow.
Come on y'all...........it's time for some JUNO/Shadow love
I guess we will have to start learning how to "cook" roms.
I'll try to learn something and post it on my website: http://www.freddyreyes.com/forums
There isn't that much to regular cooking of roms. The problem is porting it from another device(which I have no idea how to do). Here are the things you need to do to mod the rom after you have that very important step figured out:
Extract rom (extracted versions are floating around in this forum somewhere...(Check Calling all T-Mo Shadow users thread)
Dump rom into bin files and then convert to normal files/folders
Add/remove files as needed
Create XIP chain with working Shadow drivers (Don't know how to do that)
Convert fiel back to a bin file and recreate os file (nk.nbh)
I can do all of these steps except creating the new XIP chain. I have no idea where to start with that.
I just remembered, you also need to make any drivers in the actual rom that don't work universally to work for the shadow.
If someone can teach me some of the things to do to port the rom, I'll try and do it.
I don't understand why they won't make us a new section
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I just remembered, you also need to make any drivers in the actual rom that don't work universally to work for the shadow.
If someone can teach me some of the things to do to port the rom, I'll try and do it.
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How can I give you the drivers? Do I need to "dump" my Rom and extract the files?
Here is the post that you mentioned: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351660
Well, I've got the shadow dump, but I don't know how to edit any drivers from a different devices wm6.1 to work for the shadow
Maybe Kavana (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=373268) at the Excalibur forum can give us a hand. He ported 6.1 to the Dash.
Ok. What device's wm6.1 should we try and port and what build?
I know that there are currently 3 builds of wm6.1, but I don't know if they all have to do with smartphones(maybe only for ppc). Which should we use?
There are 2 that could work. The Dash is very similar to the Shadow. It has wi-fi, bluetooth, camera...however the camera is only 1.3 Mp and the other issue could be the "sure type" shadow's keyboard.
Dash (Smartphone)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374890
Tornado (Smartphone)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375670
The only problem I can see with using the dash is that it's landscape oriented and the shadow is portrait oriented. It doesn't matter to me though..
spl
i would say use the vox. there is a 6.1 build for the vox. and also not rain on this but, even if you make a build how are we going to flash it? spl will be locked i'm guessing and as far as i know nobody has come up with a jump or hard spl yet for the juno
Does anyone know if Lokiwiz works for the shadow? We could CID unlock it with that, right?
I tried that on my old Wizard and it worked not sure about the Shadow....
EDIT: I thought it CID unlocked my phone. I'll try something else. I downloaded the vox SYS and OEM folders that contain the rom image. (I'll start replacing all the parts tomorrow. Thanks pixelwix for reminding about the cid unlock and the Vox rom suggestion.
Hey all, I hope you'll go easy on me as this is the first time I've ever flashed a WM device and the prospect of going wrong has caused me to post here! If anyone could talk me through this I'd be most greatful.
First off thanks for the guide which I've been studying for the best part of the day! I now think I'm ready to give it a try.
I have an i-mate K-JAM with an IPL/SPL of 2.16 which I assume means I have a G3.
I hope I've got it right...
I assume I'll need to downgrade using the Button rom to 1.05 then use Lokiwiz to perform a CID unlock (dunno if my device is CID locked or not, I'll just guess that it is).
Next step will be to upgrade to this T-Mobile ROM and then upgrade to IPL/SPL 3.08 to make the device boot faster.
Now it's time to flash with a WM6 rom right?! .
I'm a little wary of the huge variety of ROMs available. I realise I can't ask 'what's the best ROM' which is fine but I'd like to know which roms people would recommend for maintaining the same functionality of the original WM5 rom that came with my K-JAM, give me the ability to make VoIP calls (I have a voipcheap sip account) and be rather speedy.
I've heard good things about the TNT ROM which appears to have the above things I need. I assume this is the ROM I'll need - I think I'd prefer to add apps seperately so I guess it's best to go with the 'Official' version over 'Professional'.
About VoIP - I've seen people have been having issues with the other persons sound coming from the loudspeaker, has this issue been sorted now?
Let's say I decide to go back to WM5 (for whatever reason) at a later stage, I assume this'll still be possible by following the exact same downgrade/upgrade steps in the guide?
I hope I'm on the right path. Thanks to anyone who can help out!
HAY
I UPDATE MY K-JAM WITH TNT WM 6.1 TOUCHFLO ROM IT WORKING FINE
LINK.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367534
fayizk1 said:
HAY
I UPDATE MY K-JAM WITH TNT WM 6.1 TOUCHFLO ROM IT WORKING FINE
LINK.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367534
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Cheers, did you follow the same kinda procedure in my post? Have you messed with VoIP at all, if so how's it working for you?
Is WM6 running a lot smoother than WM5?
All done!
Just have one last question for now here
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All done!
Just have one last question for now here
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Sorry, I've tuned into your question late. If it helps, I'm using mfrazz's XM6r3 ROM (I tried a more recent one that was buggier and went back to 3.) VoIP (Internet Calling) worked "right out of the box"- I just had to load one of the VoIP configuration utilities floating around here to enter my provider settings.
The only two issues really are that it uses the loadspeaker instead of the earspeaker (but bluetooth works fine) and the biggest issue- the Wizard is just too d**m slow for Internet Calling to work well- the audio is very choppy without overclocking (which I'm loathe to do.)
Fring, from Fring.com is a decent app for VoIP on slow WM phones like the Wizard, so I have that installed as well. It lets you use Skype, Google Talk, and a few other VoIPs as well as one SIP provider all in one app. It's not perfect either- it also uses the loudspeakers, it's akward to dial from (it has no real "dial pad"- you can either dial an existing contact by selecting one, or another number by selecting any contact and "overriding" their displayed number), it doesn't support DTMF (so there's no way to "press 1 for English...") and it always leaves the device volume at full blast when you exit the app, but it's got the best audio quality of any VoIP app I've used on the Wizard. (I used it from Mexico back in January over my hotel's WiFi to make $0.02/minute calls back to the States rather than T-Mobile's generous $1.49/min roam rate!)
Hiya's, I found this site while looking up info on the HTC cruise as I have just received a hand-me-down Cruise from a friend (had a very old nokia..). This is a major upgrade for me (it has a 2 camera's unlike my nokia which has none). I am keen to get the most use from the phone as possible and at the moment it seems to be going ok but having read a couple of the forum messages it seems that there are various upgrades that can make it a better phone.
I have been accused of being a semi-ludite when it comes to using technology so would appreciate any advice on what can be upgraded as far as the operating system and other programs are concerned. I have used the CoPilot program this morning and think is is the greatest thing since individually sliced and packaged cheese..
The settings on the phone indicate it is ROM 1.26.710.1 WWE (date 12/17/2007), Radio Version 1.58.21.23 and Protocol Version 25.65.30.04H.
If any advice is forthcoming, please keep things as simple as possible or I will have to get one of my neighbors kids to come over and explain..
Cheers
Ian
Welcome to the wonderful world of a touchscreen windows mobile device.
Of course there are a lot of things you can improve, thousands of programs are waiting to be installed and so on.
IMHO the most important thing is: If you are satisfied with your current system DO NOT change it. If everything is running smooth there is no need to flash a new operating system or radio. If you notice slowdowns during using the device or if the radio in your area is not running perfect you should flash the latest upgrade from HTC. They are offering WM 6.1 (WM = windows mobile, the operating system) and a new radio. Its very easy to flash but you will loose all your data on the device.
If you don't like your today screen, you can check some replacements, Mobile Shell is one of it:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell
And if you like this shell you can change its look with upgrades like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3904948&postcount=2513
Of course you can flash one of the Roms created by one of the devs. You will find an overview here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521961
But you should be aware that many of these roms are using stuff from other devices like Manilla, this might cause problems. And you have to be very careful if flash a self created rom, its not that easy like flashing an original HTC rom.
Last but not least you have to think about the way you want to use your device. If you just need a phone you need nothing else. If you want to read ebooks like wikipedia you need a reader and so on. Here you can find tons of programs for your device:
http://www.handango.com/homepage/Homepage.jsp?storeId=2218
You will also find a lot of freeware apps here:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/
And a very important thing is: Backup your device often if you are trying different applications, you are having a windows device
For a list of recommended software check my signature.
All are freeware except iGO, and easily found on this forums (or links from here lead to authors pages).
And welcome to Polaris owners club...
Thanks very much for the replies..
It seems to be going ok at the moment. I am not too sure whether it is slow or not (nothing to compare..) but opening an application only takes a couple of seconds so I am happy with that. I have been using it primarily as a phone (of course) but have been using the camera like mad. I even made one of my friends give me a video call..very cool...I have tried to use the voice commander application but it doesn't seem to want to do anything and eventually just says "Goodbye" and closes. I am going to look at the list of applications at some of the website that are list above and see what is available.
Cheers and thanks again..
IJ