Is it possible to eliminate specific items from the "today items list" without uninstalling programs altogether? I need to get new programs to show up in this list, and apparently the limit is 13. Any help here please?
Hi
I'm not sure what your problem exactly is... Today screen app bars ?
Go to Settings -> Personal -> Today -> Items <tab>
You can tick/untick today screen elements there.
Thanks, I can tick and untick in that list OK, but if I add I new programm that needs such plugin like tomtom5 or any other and the list grows beyond 13 then some programs dissappear from that list because the limit is apparently 13. So I can't tick what is not shown because I have gone beyond the stupid quota of 13, so my question is how do I get rid of programs in that list that I don't need without actually unistalling them. I hope is more clear now. Thanks again.
I didn't know that that was a limitation, but go into your registry
HKLM > Software > Microsoft > Today
Export that, then remove all entries you don't need, and if you need to, import only the ones you do need later. Slightly dangerous, as ever with the registry, but it'd work.
V
Hi
Oobviously you've got a lot of software installed on your PPC
On the other hand it's preety bad that they haven't thought about more than 13 today apps.
Ok.
I've found registry keys that are responsible for today's mess
\HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Today\Items\
Just use your registry editor and cut the crap you'll never use in there.
It works. They disappear from "items" selection.
If you don't have a registry editor, take this one. It's the simpliest, and best one I know.
Have fun.
EDIT: LOL. The problem was already answered before I've finished polishing my post
Is this a known limitation >13? Eeks.
I'm writing my own plugin, vacuuming up functionality from the other plugins I'd like to use, so hopefully I'll end up with basically one plugin only, but hypothetically, any limitation is still a pain.
V
True XDA-Developer eh ?
If you're making your work available to public please tell where I can find info about your development progess etc.
robal:
I've posted a little elsewhere about my plugin, VJEphemeris, which is a long term work in progress.
Thus far it contains an analog clock, date with popup calendar, alarm clock setting and notification (cus you don't bloody know when it's set and on!), Quote of the day, autosizing according to length, missed call notification, last sms details, temperature, volume control, battery status, current phone operator (for dual sims), multi-bank launcher facility and theft protection (detects if user is using a non authorised sim, and then sms's me with the phone number (and shortly, cellid), permitting me to sms it back causing it to format the sd, optional hard reset and I'm considering optional bricking - thanks Olipro).
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That's the basic version I use currently. I've got tonnes to add when I finish a bit more stuff for release for you lot!
VJEphemeris is a continuous test bed of ideas I'm trying to implement. It's unlikely to be released, or at least as is. It's currently entirely customised around my use (although it's all too damn skinnable: I haven't gone into designing a UI yet, I'm just making it easy to use one thumbed! Try cutting out the screenshot and see how you thumb rests naturally on the important stuff. I'm trying to make it nicely ergonomic).
V
Impressive, please let me attend my kids and will let you know soon if I can solve this. Thank you very much
Problem solved thanks to you guys. Now I can have everything I want. Cheers
Whats providing the weather details? Looks Like the BBC, what are you using for that?
Seahorse - is that to me? I think I'm using weather panel, and that downloads from its own website.
V
Hi Vijay is there anyway you could release a usable version? I love the clock and Picture links.
viJay!... temperature?... Can you tell us how to get it?... Thanks! :wink:
batter temperature is built into the os api. when i get in front of a pc next week send me a pm if you still need code.
the clock isn't releasable yet, i've had no time to work on it because of other projects for this board... will continue with it as soon as poss. i've got big plans for it
v
Today Plugins
I've come rather late to this thread but have exactly the same problem.
However using Resco Registry editor I have removed several plugins but they are still shown in the list and some like Inbox and Tasks etc cannot be deleted.
Your further assistance would be appreciated.
Brian Leach
brian, they're system plugins. They don't need to be removed. Just disable them from Today settings and leave them as is IMHO.
V
Today Plugins
Now working fine.
Thanks for your help.
Brian Leach
vijay555 said:
I didn't know that that was a limitation, but go into your registry
HKLM > Software > Microsoft > Today
Export that, then remove all entries you don't need, and if you need to, import only the ones you do need later. Slightly dangerous, as ever with the registry, but it'd work.
V
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Sorry to revive this old thread. But my today screen got wiped out and only date/owner/calendar/tasks are available now. Is it possible for you to describe what this today registry registry looks like? I have each one of the items inside the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\ registry, but they're not showing up.
Thanks
steph280:
Under Items there is a key for each of today items (their names are what you see in the listbox). Under each of this keys there is a value named "DLL" which contains the name of the DLL that actually creates the plug-in. Make sure those files are where they suppose to be. (if there is no path the file should be in windows directory)
If you don't see the item keys, but have the DLLs in place, you could try to create the keys with their names and following values inside:
DLL (string) filename.dll
Selectability (dword) 0 / 1 / 2 (depends on the plug-in)
Type (dword) 4
Options (dword) 0 / 1 (1 if the plug-in has options dialog)
Enabled (dword) 1
Order (dword) place from the top you want it in.
Some plug-ins may add custom values to this key to use for their settings.
If you have many third party plug-ins you should just re-install them to fix the problem.
Hope this helps, good luck.
Related
Does anyone know anything about this "type a name or number" plugin
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Has anyone managed to get a rom rip off this thing yet, or the .dlls? I'd be interested to know how it works in practise.
V
hi V...
vijay555 said:
Does anyone know anything about this "type a name or number" plugin
Has anyone managed to get a rom rip off this thing yet, or the .dlls? I'd be interested to know how it works in practise.
V
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I'm still searchin for the treo plugin...did you find it? thanks in advance
Massimo
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=261622
thanks
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Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=261622
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thanks,...but...i think no one find a solution to dump the "type a name or number" plugin from treo rom dump.
massimo
Oh, please don't tease me with Treo's BATTERY METER!!! I want it on my Wizard! Does anyone know about something in that style? (please, don't tell me "use AKU2's default", guys...).
BTW.... question to Mr Vijay. I saw a pretty nice one on the screenshots on your website - (let me check...) - at VJCandela and VJBigPhone screenshots. What is that battery meter?
TIA, Alex
aperley: my battery meter screenshots are probably from the excellent SmallMenu Plus.
I posted the treo's battery meter years ago.
Here you go, with a screenshot showing it working fine on my Hermes.
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/!tools/treobatterymeter/treobatteryindicator.zip
V
Hi ViJay,
that seems to be the same thing posted long time ago in one of the Treo ripping threads. I've tried it that time, and it didn't work on my Wizard. The issues are following:
- it COMPLETELY overrides the volume control - not just the icon, but the slider as well. Moving the volume slider up or down causes the battery status notif to pop up. So, no way to control the volume anymore.
- it only shows battery charge at the moment of launch, and it doesn't change. I've launched it at 95%, now I have 90%, but the thing is still showing me 95%.
- after pluging the charger in, it changes the icon to "charging", but never changes it back.
Maybe I did something wrong? I've just unpacked the archive in a folder and launched the .exe.
And - question. What are those .bmp's for? Definitely not for Treo battery meter - they rather look like GS Battery meter (which doesn't work on WM5). And - I'm gonna try Small Menu
Thanks!
I don't know what the stuff is for, I just ripped out everything that said battery. As you said, it's not worth using, as it covers the volume icon. The one in the TyTN threads is much better anyway!
V
the 700w has the same feature and u can find an actually dump.bin that contains everything and registry which is available here. Just lettting yall know. maybe this helps.
That's where it came from. We dumped the Treo some time back... but thanks anyway!
Is anyone interested in this battery thing? I don't think it works properly on our phones, and there are better alternatives.
V
I've tried SmallMenu... That's exactly what I was loking for! Great thanks! I didn't really like the menu feature itself, but the battery meter is cool! Actually, I prefer the Treo battery icon style, so I made my own icon set - based on Treo screenshots. Hopefully, they are not copyrighted 8) First icon is not done - can't figure out what is it for. Check this out:
P.S. just Photoshopped it real quick... The lightning symbols on charging icons are messed up - will fix that later.
Lvballer06 said:
the 700w has the same feature and u can find an actually dump.bin that contains everything and registry which is available here. Just lettting yall know. maybe this helps.
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except for the threaded sms, that's new to the 750
There are a few goodies that the 750v has over the 700. One being the much desired threaded sms app, and also the much improved bluetooth stack that supports a2dp and voice dialing.
Here....
If anybody interested - Treo-like skin for SmallMenu Plus Battery icon. Icons modified to fit the limited space on the taskbar.
Just wondering if anyone had figured out a way to add that to an HTC device ? Not sure it's a standard plugin though as it gets activated/deactivated in the menu/preferences/Hide Lookup Field
vijay555 said:
Does anyone know anything about this "type a name or number" plugin
Has anyone managed to get a rom rip off this thing yet, or the .dlls? I'd be interested to know how it works in practise.
V
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I managed to get this to work on Faria's latest AKU 3.2 ROM which I installed today. I was playing with the registry and simply copied a key and changed a dll mapping, soft reset and presto!
The key that was copied was from the WebSearchPlugin found in this forum:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\"Web Search"]
"Order"=dword:0000002A
"Flags"=dword:00000000
"Enabled"=dword:00000001
"Options"=dword:00000000
"Selectability"=dword:00000002
"Type"=dword:00000004
"DLL"="\\Windows\\WebSearchPlugin.dll"
I recreated the key changing the following lines only:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\"Dial Lookup"]
"DLL"="\\Windows\\DialLookupPlugin.dll"
Attached are a screenshot and a zip zrchive containing the registry settings that can be imported using your favorite registry editor.
NOTE: 1) that you must use your sliding keyboard..duh. and 2) the icons above and to the right of the input box.
Forgot to mention that this was done on my Wizard.
That's quite a big step!
Just imported the plugin on the Faria RC1 ROM. After the import I soft reset my device. First time I recieved an Shell error, by pressing "Ok", my Wizard restarted. Now it works fine
The wireless plugin showing the BT and Wireless doensn't work: "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename".
I think the plugin is quite useless for Wizard users. Now you have to slide open your keyboard to search and dial a contact. When dialing you have to close the device again.
Like the Wireless part though
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Recieved the same message for the second time: "An unhandled error has occured in the shell. Attempting to restart the shell.".
Will restore a backup and let this plugin be for the moment
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can you repost the dial lookup file? it seems to be corrupted
yeah can someone post the DialLookupPlugin.dll file
In the following thread you will find the zip archive containing both the dll and reg entry. Be sure to read the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=261622&page=11
Post #109
If you are using a smartphone running on Windows Mobile 6.1, this small utility might be useful for you. It allows you to switch on/off and change the display order of the sliding panels on any CHome homescreens. It could also be used to customize all custom panels based on CWelcomeCenter and Settings plugin.
UPDATED TO 1.1.0.1 (2008/06/02)
NEW: Contact Dialer template now offers a choice to enable SMS button if the selected phone number isn't a mobile phone.
FEATURES:
Add/Remove/Disable panels from the homescreen
Change the panel's order
Change panel settings: icon, title, page counter, etc.
Customize all panels based on CWelcomeCenter/Settings plugin
Add/Remove page from a panel
Copy/Paste/Paste as new (clone) page
Change page's settings: icon, URL,description, etc.
Change page's order
Interactive templates: Application Launcher, Contact Dialer, Internet Link
This software supports both portrait & lanscape devices. The following devices has been confirmed as supported: Excalibur, Tornado, Shadow, Vox, Oxygen.
A .ZIP is included for those who has trouble installing .CAB version.
More details on this thread
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Nice job! Can't wait to test but don't have sync cable with me...
Updated
First post updated. Please download and try the new version. Just a minor change though.
so you mean to tell me this updates the order in the home.xml or the registry. so i wont have to edit the home.xml ?
tlogix this app is the best and a must for any Smartphone now I can add picks and numbers with ease and add and change pages at will I was wondering how many pages can be added to the contacts
shadowmike said:
so you mean to tell me this updates the order in the home.xml or the registry. so i wont have to edit the home.xml ?
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It edits the registry, so if you have plugin order in your xml you will probably need to remove it. That way plugin order will come from reg, where this app does its magic.
I just wanted to point out that I have pretty much confirmed this works on the T-Mobile Shadow with the Shadow's Neo (pre-WM 6.1) interface as well!
Yahoooo!
Kermit Woodall
Managing Editor
GadgetNutz.com
kron2 said:
tlogix this app is the best and a must for any Smartphone now I can add picks and numbers with ease and add and change pages at will I was wondering how many pages can be added to the contacts
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Probably there's a limit set by CHome but I'm pretty sure that you'll be tired of flipping through all the pages before reaching the limit
I think that the limit is 12.
Excalibur
freyes01 said:
I think that the limit is 12.
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On my Excalibur using Rickswatt 6.1 ROM, he has included CApplications with 20 pages without problem. But it could be different on you device.
works on typhoon too
It's working on my Typhoon (Aleut's WM6.1 for Typhoon/Feeler/Amadeus pre [1.3])
working almost perfectly on my Blackjack with Da_G's WM6.1 ROM.
the one problem i have is a program crash when using the contact dialer template. i pick the contact, choose to enable/disable SMS, and then crash. the app and link templates are working OK.
not a huge problem. although it would be nice if someone could let me know the manual command to map SMS to softkey 2. that's the only thing i'm looking for.
Love the program. Quick question: I run the java version of gmail through esmertec jbed. I used the applications launcher template in chome configurator to create a homescreen shortcut to run gmail. However, when i launch the application via the shortcut, it simply opens jbed and from there I have to launch the gmail application manually. The start menu shortcut I created a long time ago uses the exact same command line ("\windows\jbed.exe" -run s3_) works perfectly and opens gmail directly.
Has anybody seen this issue and figured out the solution? Thanks in advance.
How to activate & use cMyFaves?
tlogix,
Thanks for this wonderful application!
It certainly takes the pain out of manually configuring the .xml home file!
Can you help me figure out how to use cMyFaves?
I've seen screenshots suggesting that it's liken to the HTC Home Favorite Contacts dialer.
But, I could never get it to show up in the Home screen of my Cingular 3100 running Erofich's WM6.1 Standard.
Is there something lacking in the OS that I need to include?
Please advise me.
Thanks!
Konker
Anybody know of an app like iContact/PocketCM but to launch program shortcuts instead of contact dialer ?
I would like to have a thumb scrollable list of all the programs etc that I use.
If not, are there any brave souls willing to take the iContact source code and some how make it run exe shortcuts rather than contact dialling ?
I found l3v5y's Scroll Launcher, its great and very similar to my request.. but its still a little lacking.. any other suggestions ?
go into the registry and edit it:
HKLM\software\microsoft\shell\rai
and go to :mscontacts and edit the string in "1" to equal the path for the program you wanted to launch
madjokeer said:
go into the registry and edit it:
HKLM\software\microsoft\shell\rai
and go to :mscontacts and edit the string in "1" to equal the path for the program you wanted to launch
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Not sure if you read my post, thanks for the random tip though
What I am looking for is an actual program that looks/feels like iContact, but launches shortcuts instead of dialling.
im interested too in such applikation, pm me pls, if you find some
I recommend mortbuttons. It's not exactly like icontact but it's very finger friendly. Besides, the blackaqua theme matches the glossy black bar very well.
why not use th Q n A section of the fourm???? funny thing is that i did a search n found many
PLEASE UES THE QnA UNLESS U HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER
most people come here to see whats new or get updates for programs being developed ...it is very anoying to see new post with nothing to offer
that's what people do in here. is can't be clearer than this, that the first thread in this forum is for questions and answers... since it says : QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS HERE! or something like that...
but people ignore this, ask questions here, and since others reply instead of directing them to the correct thread, they STILL ask questions in new pointless threads. human nature.
I posted there, with no response. I dunno, it seems to me in order to get any eyeballs on a question you have to start a new thread (sorry, I know this is against 'the rules') Besides, this is technically a dev/hacking question, and I'm contributing by generating interest in such an app. Since I've posted, l3v5y has come out of the woodwork to say he's beginning a rewrite of his launcher - plus I've contacted Tene and SupBro to ask about the possibility of forking their projects into a launcher rather than dialler.
@ dan0zone & nir36 : Thanks for the helpful advice.
Way to much of this going on... Hopefully this thread is just moved before it too becomes a mess.
I agree that such a launcher has potential. It would be kind of cool if it had support for groups/folders as well.
Personally, I'd like to see something that uses shortcuts and sub folders inside of a base folder as opposed to a built in browse for the app style of assigning things. It makes setting up extremely easy if you're using your desktop. I uderstand that they both have their ins and outs though.
It would be kind of cool if it could be developed in such a way as to employ the skins from whatever version of iContact you're running or it's own...
Also, how about a contextual menu option to jump to the apps root folder in either file explorer or TC? It would make editing the preference files in those apps which still require manual editing of .ini or .xml files MUCH easier.
Schap's already has something in the works, and PointUI also has this function as well. PointUI is the entire UI, not just the app launcher, and I haven't used it lately, but the scrolling was inverted last I used.
this is what u want , but its not freeware
http://iwindowsmobile.com/mobile-launcher.html
kinmont said:
this is what u want , but its not freeware
http://iwindowsmobile.com/mobile-launcher.html
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Nice link. I tried that one but it seems to be too battery draining for all day use, also not very customisable. I'm crossing my fingers that someone can just change iContact to make it launch apps instead. I'm learning C++ and gonna buy Visual Studio just for this project if no one else can ..
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Well it doesn't scroll the way Schaps new menu will.
Put it does have page flicks from left toe right and RtL and UtD etc.
MortBottuns yes.
If people would have given this some more support and skins a few years ago it would maybe even have had scrolling support.
Best of all is it's highly configurable and aoollws for you to make submenu's.
Who knows what a few donations to Mort would do.
Cheerz,
The MortButtons Evangalist
Well, after a few days of hunting.. I've come to the conclusion that patiently sitting back and waiting for Schaps's incredible-looking TouchXperience launcher is the best option.
I've donated a bit, and encourage everyone else interested to do the same
Here is a new version of my 96dpi rom using latest versions of core, xip & radio available for VOX.
I hope you will like speed of this rom.
Here are some screenshots :-
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Here is download link :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/138403831/ZeeRom4.nbh.html
Excellent work zeeshee !
Nice job there, Zeeshan...Downloading now
Update:
Works like a charm.
Does seem to be quicker...Will wait for matrix to benchmark it.
Calculator still in expert
No issues yet
image is corrupted when flashing via USB
and doesnt get a certificate when flashing from SD
Did you do USPL?? I doubt it. If then re-download.
BTW: there is no Radio included in this *.nbh!
retried with the USPL and the roms is working fine.
Looks a lot better and the tekst is more clear than the original.
But did u realy have to put that bootlogo in it?
I will change the boot logo as may ppl requested for this
NICEEEEEEEEEE
Thank you I will give a try! Thank you!
PS: on my previous comment on the connection manager, sorry yes it is there my mistake, although there is no option to turn off the GPRS (Edge) connection! (there is only WIFI, Bluetooth and Phone).
Also do you think you can solve this other small issue? "when I receive a sms and i am still in the inbox, in the home screen the vox indicates me like I still have to read the sms (new sms) while I have already read it because i was in the inbox chatting when I received it! can you correct this? thanks"
tuleggi said:
NICEEEEEEEEEE
Thank you I will give a try! Thank you!
PS: on my previous comment on the connection manager, sorry yes it is there my mistake, although there is no option to turn off the GPRS (Edge) connection! (there is only WIFI, Bluetooth and Phone).
Also do you think you can solve this other small issue? "when I receive a sms and i am still in the inbox, in the home screen the vox indicates me like I still have to read the sms (new sms) while I have already read it because i was in the inbox chatting when I received it! can you correct this? thanks"
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Again go to connection Manager & press right SoftKey. Read 1st option carefully & let me know what it says
Also do you think you can solve this other small issue? "when I receive a sms and i am still in the inbox, in the home screen the vox indicates me like I still have to read the sms (new sms) while I have already read it because i was in the inbox chatting when I received it! can you correct this? thanks"
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As far as I am concerned this is a general WinMo 6.1 problem!
zeeshee said:
Again go to connection Manager & press right SoftKey. Read 1st option carefully & let me know what it says
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ok Im an idiot.. although it is quite hidden..or at least not visible as the WIFI on/off
Installed!!
thanks
How to turn off bold font i.e. in right softkey menu or in contact list? (Or - how to change the whole phone font?) I don't have time to search for responsible registry key
And thanks for your ROM, I'm a huge fan
Good work zeeshee, keep it up!
Any chance of making 4x4 icon grid in the start menu? 4x3 still looks better than 3x3 in the original ROM, but 4x4 would fit there perfectly.
Nice work, Zeeshan. Thanks a ton!
Got installed last night. I think, in the first instance, the performance of this ROM is really better than any of the previous ROMs, especially in terms of RAM consumption. Yet to explore more abt the same. Will give more feedback after that...
Hello two issues:
- the black bar is back again, like in the first release i.e. http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/245/screen003ao2.png
- could you remove the sound when you make a call or use the trick of Dr. Martin Gonzo? I think the previous release hadnt this owful sound when you call someone, thanks!
tuleggi said:
Hello two issues:
- the black bar is back again, like in the first release i.e. http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/245/screen003ao2.png
- could you remove the sound when you make a call or use the trick of Dr. Martin Gonzo? I think the previous release hadnt this owful sound when you call someone, thanks!
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I don't have the black bar problem this time! I wonder how you people get it. In fact, I had straightaway switched to another background, without sliding panel. May be thats why I didn't realize.
I am using the "slide media" theme + SmartToolkit RC09 and I have the black bar problem!
tuleggi said:
I am using the "slide media" theme + SmartToolkit RC09 and I have the black bar problem!
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Hey, I changed my homescreen back to Sliding Panel. I too have whatever you have mentioned on my homescreen, but I am not getting the black bar.
Anyway, there is a work around, if you are still facing the problem, which is as follows:
You will have to edit the following two files in windows folder:
CHome_240x320.cpr
CHome_320x240.cpr
Copy the same to your pc and open with notepad. The files are ReadOnly. So just remove the ReadOnly attributes for these files.
For CHome_240x320.cpr file,
Change the "Height" property for Image element to 313 (in Line no. 2)
Similary, for CHome_320x240.cpr file,
Change the "Height" property for Image element to 233 (in Line no. 2)
Save the files and copy back to the windows folder using Resco or Total Commander. And Soft-reset. You are done.
Hi!
I have checked this files and the value is already the right one!!
See below, I am not joking I have the black bar...
PS: there is a way to show more calendar events on the homescreen? thanks
Hi all, starting a thread to share my experience with ‘downgrading’ to a dumbphone, it was almost so good (would have been perfect!!), but just falling sadly short in some important areas. I’m sharing the tricks and workarounds I used to in a bid to get the phone working in a satisfactory manner, if that is a help to anyone out there, would be great to hear other peoples experiences and some more opinions on resolutions.
Quick summary of topics covered in this post:
Aggressive power management.
No screen wake for notifications.
T9 keypad support lacking.
Assisted dialing
Notification sound.
Using an ‘unlocked’ version from AliExpress (thread here) and trying to avoid rooting, flashing etc, just trying to work with it as-is:
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I’ve been using this phone for about 1.5 weeks as a daily driver, have very happily and comfortably slipped back into T9 texting and I must admit that I’m quite enamored by this little cutie of a device. Its so adorable! Hardware wise, really happy with it – I like the screen, the feel of the keys, the battery life is good enough. Sadly a few things are detracting from the overall experience which I’d also like to share for those having a think about it… I’m still going to push on using it for now
1) Aggressive power management.
The OS is ignoring settings to ‘not optimise’ battery for certain processes, resulting in them still getting killed. This renders any regular 3rd party apps and daily updating home screen widgets unusable for ongoing use.
2) No screen wake for notifications.
I worked around this by using a cool app called ‘Glimpse Notifications’, which was perfect, however the aforementioned power management issue kills the process a few hours later, despite the app itself having a ‘persistent’ mode. There is a persistent mode also present in DAVx5 (which I use for contact and calendar sync) and it does work for that particular app.
Once the process is killed, the functionality stops:
3) T9 keypad support lacking.
English T9 support is not usable out of the box, however this can be quickly worked around with a fork of Traditional T9, with a custom keymap (credit to this post which I took from). Taking us straight back to the good old Nokia days. Archived apk build is found at this Wayback Machine link. Props to the author of T9 and the thread author.
(EDIT: See next post for an update to this section) However we quickly run into a usability problem here: If the text entry field in the app or website you are using does not have a “search” / “done” button then you will get stuck without being able to send the text off to perform the search or whatever it is you wanted to to do - as Traditional T9 does not have the functionality to do that (like regular soft keyboards do, with that magnifying glass/tick button to ‘hit enter’ as such). From some searching I think the technical term for the ‘done’ operation is IME_ACTION_DONE. Mapping a key in Traditional T9 for key codes 84 (search) and 66 (enter) does not work to do the required work that this button does on regular soft keyboards:
4) Assisted dialing
This is a common complaint, numbers that are stored in the contact list with +61 prefix will not get matched up to the contact name – when calls are received in local format ie: starting with 0 instead of +61. I worked around this by using an app called PrefixEditor, and it went through my contact list, replacing any +61 prefixes with 0.
Be aware that the same issue comes up when you the proceed to SMS someone using your newly edited ‘0’ prefix number, when they reply it will come from the +61 prefix, so then your very first text message will be orphaned, and the rest of the messages will be under their own thread from then onward.
5) Occasionally no sounds for notifications
(I have custom sounds, I’ve only noticed this issue in the last 24 hours, so am still fleshing that one out)
EDIT: Suspect it had something to do with misbehaving Glimpse Notifications.
While I’ve already spent quite some time trying to resolve these issues, I’ve tried to make peace with some of them in order to keep using it, as I do really like the phone. I’m going to push on for the moment and see if I don’t get too sick of putting up with them. Will post any updates as I go, and would welcome any advice… Thanks everyone.
After having a brief play with another T9 keyboard (https://github.com/AshiVered/QinBoard-T9 - which is unable to go into 'ab' mode, which I need at times) I stumbled into the realization that Traditional T9 in its default state (with no custom keymap) DOES perform the 'done' function when hash (#) is long pressed. Once a custom keymap is in place, long presses no longer work. I have attached my modified version of the keymap, which basically does the following:
These are in their default states:
* = change between En/en/EN
* (long press) = insert smiley
# (or 0) = space
# (long press) = done/enter
dpad up/down = cycle through word suggestions
1 = punctuation
Q (left button) = change between en/ab/12
Back (right button) = delete
Call = add new word (when prediction does not recognize the key combination)
An update about widgets, it seems that some widgets are happily updating and some aren't. So it must come down to how they are coded I guess. I moved from an Android 7 device to this (Android 11), so I guess the world has changed a bit since then, from what I hear apparently widgets are getting to be an increasingly difficult task for Android. I really like using widgets, so its a bit frustrating that I can't get them all to tick over happily.
An update after a few months of use (and still in use) as my daily driver....
The quality/durability of the keypad is not great, having issues with missing keypresses, which is really hurting the experience. This is the number 1 problem. Biggest culprit is the 7 key and the dial key.
The assisted dialing issue (as mentioned in the 1st post - the double SMS thread symptom) is a bit annoying, the built in SMS app does not allow searching, which means that if you 'create new' message, using the number in your phone book, your message will go to the 'orphaned' thread and the replies will come through in the +61 prefix number thread. So you have to scroll (sometimes for a while) to find the right thread and then reply in there. I tried to download another SMS program (for search capability), however this resulted in missing SMS messages, due to the phone's power management.
I've made peace with the other niggles - however if the two above issues were not present - this would be the perfect phone!!
The thing is, the phone is so cute, that I haven't been able to let it go yet. I might consider upgrading to the F22, and see if the keypad build quality is better. The phone is not as compact though, so some of the cute factor will be lost.
About keyboards: in some Qin F21 Pro modifications, there is the Kika12 app (KIKA 12-key keyboard).
And this keyboard can type just like, for example, the old push-button Nokia.
Unfortunately, I can't find this application anywhere separately for download...