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Hi,
coming from a relatively literate PC user - I must say that Gmail IMAP must be something most confusing I have come across.
I managed to get it working, I can see GMAIL account in well, accounts, and mail is going back and forth the way it should.
1. Now, the problem are labels. I can see them listed as folders below GMAIL default folders, but they are all empty. All the emails simply go to inbox folder.
Any ideas how to solve this?
Also, deleting an email on my cell phone does not move it to Trash folder on Gmail account (on the server). Does this maybe happen next time I send/receive?
2. data traffic counter in WM. Where can I see how much data went over the GPRS/HSDPA connection? In total and in the last session?
Thank you all
Alex
think your imap pickle is more an imap thing then a wm thing as google imap in outlook
on my pc is the same way
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astrbac said:
Hi,
coming from a relatively literate PC user - I must say that Gmail IMAP must be something most confusing I have come across.
I managed to get it working, I can see GMAIL account in well, accounts, and mail is going back and forth the way it should.
1. Now, the problem are labels. I can see them listed as folders below GMAIL default folders, but they are all empty. All the emails simply go to inbox folder.
Any ideas how to solve this?
Also, deleting an email on my cell phone does not move it to Trash folder on Gmail account (on the server). Does this maybe happen next time I send/receive?
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You don't sound familiar with Gmail's label concept. Think of each label as a mask, and each message having a bitmap of its labels. You can tag each message with many labels. You label (move to folder) and remove labels (delete from folder) by masking bits.
Delete from a folder (including Inbox) and you've only masked a label bit. If you want to really delete the message, delete it from [Gmail]/All Mail.
Hmmm...
thanx all for the replies! Well, I AM familiar with the labels concept but then (obviously) it doesnt integrate well with the mail client in Windows, no? I mean, if the client recognises folders (labels) why cant it put messages into them?
Cheers!
I use FastMail.FM for my IMAP mail.
When I want to sync IMAP sub folders I have to go to:
Menu, Tools, Manage Folders and select all subfolders that I want to synchronize. (to make sure the content is synced, not just an empty folder)
Doesn't GMAIL work the same way?
Quite frankly, I don't see any advantage of use IMAP over pop and not to mention POP is faster and simpler
I see a lot of advantages.
My IMAP servers is pulling POP3 mail from other servers, so I have all my mail in one place.
I always have it backed up.
I can access it from anywhere, and read my mail anywhere.
(from my PC, laptop, Shift, webmail)
I can archive mail to subfolders.
etc,etc..
BTW, you are right about the speed. POP3 is a bit faster to check for new mail. I don't see why it would be simpler.
imap support push
pop3 itself does not
astrbac said:
Hmmm...
thanx all for the replies! Well, I AM familiar with the labels concept but then (obviously) it doesnt integrate well with the mail client in Windows, no? I mean, if the client recognises folders (labels) why cant it put messages into them?
Cheers!
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Lately I've been using Postbox on Windows and Mac. It's built from Mozilla code and has similarities to Thunderbird, but it's a lot more stable and a lot better IMO. Also, it makes using Gmail IMAP a whole lot easier.
Hi everybody,
I've god a dumb question:
Each time when I receive a mail via my mobile phone (HTC Touch pro) it's getting deleted on my mobile phone when I send/receive my mails via Outlook on my PC.
Is there any hint how I can prevent the messages getting deleted?
I alredy tried google etc. and I couldn't find any solution on this.
Thank you very much for your answers.
Best regards
Uetzwurschd
This is to stop your webmail server getting full.
Your Outlook client is the 'master'; when it polls your webmail account it removes the copies from the server. You phone just makes a local copy, and leaves the original on the server for your Outlook to download and keep later.
You will find a checkbox in Outlook so that it will leave the copies on the web-server, but you need to be very disciplined to keep it empty by regular clear-outs, otherwise it will fill up and you will find messages getting bounced.
Hi,
thank you for your reply. Sorry for my delay. I'm in a hospital at the moment.
I know that my Outlook is the master
But how can I say my telephone that deleted messages on the server shall not be deleted on my mobile phone?
When my phone synchronizes first, all messages are kept on the server and a copy is stored locally on my phone. Now, when Outlook synchronizes, the message on the server will be deleted. When there is another synchronization by my phone, it discovers that locally stored copies are not available on the server anymore and deletes the local copies.
But I want my phone to keep the locally stored messages!!! There can't be the problem that the server of the mail provider overcrouds as messages are deleted everytime outlook synchronizes.
So, is there any way to tell my phone that locally stored copies shall NOT be deleted when the message on the server isn't more available?
Thank you very much in advance for your answers.
Greetings
Michael
Greetings from England!
Ahh, now I understand.
I can see why that would be useful. Not sure, I'll have a poke about but hopefully someone else will have the answer at their fingertips.
Gute Besserung.
Hi,
thank you very much for "gute Besserung" (bless you).
I feel quite good again and I hope to find a solution soon as it is quite frustrating, always to install all the different mail accounts...
Bye
My German is only as good as that I learned at school and have since forgotten much of it!
This might help:
In Outlook you need to adjust the account settings (I use Thunderbird for web-mail so I can't be specific), but there is a setting that defaults to 'on' which is 'delete messages from server when downloaded'.
It's buried in Tools Accounts somewhere from memory, it will allow Outlook to download the messages but not clear the Inbox on the server so that when your PDA polls the account they are still there.
Beware, it will fill up quickly!
I've always kept a copy of all my text messages in my desktop email archive using an Outlook plugin from Jeyo. However, after switching to Gmail, I'm really trying to avoid using Outlook altogether. That's why it would be great to have a program that automatically uploads all my text messages straight from my phone to my Gmail account. Kinda like MyPhone but with Gmail.
This is what it would do:
* Automatically copy every text message to Gmail;
* Upload messages from different folders: inbox, concepts and sent items, each to the appropriate Gmail locations.
I believe there's a program for this on the Android platform, but not on Windows Mobile.
I'm just posting this here as a suggestion, hoping a handy developer likes my idea, since I don't know how to do it myself.
Services like MyPhone and Dashwire let you do it to the cloud.
You can use Windows Mobile SMS Sync ( not Free ) / PIM Backup to back it up to your PC and manually send it to gMail.
Another alternateive ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324684 ) I think its no longer actively developed
hope this helps
Thanks for the suggestions. Some of them I hadn't seen before.
I'm already using MyPhone, which works automatically and does very well as a plain backup solution, but I'd really like to keep a complete archive of my correspondence (email and sms) in one place on Gmail.
On the other hand, I'm currently using Jeyo Mobile Companion to transfer my sms to gmail manually. The result is exactly what I want: each message is listed individually and chronologically among my emails. Unfortunately, this only works through desktop Outlook, and I'd like to avoid using my pc as a go-between.
So I'm still hoping for some new developement that will do this automatically and over the air. Such a program already exists for Android phones:
http://code.google.com/p/android-sms/
this would be nice
There's a Symbian program like this as well:
http://shop.psiloc.com/en/Application,262287,Psiloc+GSync
Why should Symbian and Android users have all the fun? Couldn't anyone port the Android version to Windows Mobile? It's open source...
Damn, I wish I was a developer myself.
I have been thinking about this too and I very much applaud the development of such an application too. Everything backed up to one place.
The basic idea is pretty simple, queuing a message to a specific folder on a pop3 / imap / exchange server. Restoring or syncing data from the server is more difficult, I suppose.
Sprite used to have (= not anymore) an application that continuously sent received text messages and calls as an e-mail to a specified e-mailaddress. Unfortunately, however, it was unable to restore from it.
Also, backing up messages for the first time will pose problems. Most e-mail services are capped at a maximum amount of messages per day (e.g. 1000 receive / send)
If you have an Exchange server, version 2010 wil have sms synchronisation features in it.
Cheers
Sprite Archie actually looks pretty good! I had no idea this ever existed. Too bad it's gone.
Seems like it simply forwarded text messages (and call logs) to a specified e-mail address. Ideally, I think a program could copy the messages directly to a specific e-mail folder via IMAP, right?
I see how restoring would be a problem, but I wouldn't really use this as a backup method anyway. I already have MyPhone and Sprite Backup for that.
To me, the main purpose would be archiving. Gmail just seems a natural place to store your text messages along with your e-mails: it gives you a complete overview of all your written correspondence.
Glad to see some enthousiasm for this idea!
This would be a good program, so Im putting my hand up for it as well....
(Hope that if this is done it would be compatible with the android way of doing it, thus allowing you to move texts from one platform to the other)
I've added this as a sugestion to Nuevasync as well, being that the activesync platform does allow for selecting SMS as an option to sync.
probably not what your looking for but i have my phone setup to sync my contacts and calendar through google and i run a program called phone log which puts the text message i reciever in my calendar as an event but through i would through it out there i would be interested in a program that did this though
I second this idea, it's works a treat on my Hero and I'd love to have to my sms's pushed to my SMS label in gmail on my HD2
I've actually found a copy of Sprite Archie (mentioned higher) and it works perfectly fine... At least, it did until I bought an HD2. There, it doesn't detect incoming messages. So no luck...
See also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584610
SMSSyncUp
See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625378
Maybe some of you folks can chime in here with some discussion on how to manage email.
I own a copy of FlexMail 4.11, but one of the things that has always frustrated me about the program is that it does not integrate with the OS such as being able to directly send a photo from the album via email, and as of this version, it doesn't rotate to landscape. There are other gripes I have, but there are also many upsides, such as the ability to store messages externally, backing up email account settings (for re-installation after ROM updates) and a number of other features that make it very nice.
But I have to say that the built-in mail and SMS utilities in WM have gotten much better and I'm very tempted to use them instead of FlexMail if I can figure out how to store the content on my flash card. I remember there was a registry hack (I think it was in Tweaks2k2 or PocketMechanic) which would manage the reg changes automatically.
Anyway, I'm wondering if any of you can share your thoughts on what options might be better that would be the 'best of both worlds'.
Thanks in advance!
BillTheCat said:
Maybe some of you folks can chime in here with some discussion on how to manage email.
I own a copy of FlexMail 4.11, but one of the things that has always frustrated me about the program is that it does not integrate with the OS such as being able to directly send a photo from the album via email, and as of this version, it doesn't rotate to landscape. There are other gripes I have, but there are also many upsides, such as the ability to store messages externally, backing up email account settings (for re-installation after ROM updates) and a number of other features that make it very nice.
But I have to say that the built-in mail and SMS utilities in WM have gotten much better and I'm very tempted to use them instead of FlexMail if I can figure out how to store the content on my flash card. I remember there was a registry hack (I think it was in Tweaks2k2 or PocketMechanic) which would manage the reg changes automatically.
Anyway, I'm wondering if any of you can share your thoughts on what options might be better that would be the 'best of both worlds'.
Thanks in advance!
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I have never used FlexMail and can't give you any advice on that. BUT I want to point out that it is possible to backup your e-mail account with the WM native mail app as well!
If you just want to backup your account settings, you can do this via a xml file and use Sashimi to recreate your account after flashing (read more here). If you want to backup your account and all the e-mails you can use Microsoft MyPhone AFAIK. Not sure about that though...
MAMeingast said:
If you just want to backup your account settings, you can do this via a xml file and use Sashimi to recreate your account after flashing (read more here). If you want to backup your account and all the e-mails you can use Microsoft MyPhone AFAIK. Not sure about that though...
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Fair enough, though it gets me only half way there.
I found that PocketMechanic will relocate the message store, but it seems a bit kludgy to me, in that the 'today' plugin will force attachments to the internal store, when IMO they should also be on the external (storage card) location.
See the instructions here to see if you come up with the same conclusion with regard to the PocketMechanic solution:
http://www.wizcode.com/articles/comments/relocate-your-data-with-pocket-mechanic-professional/
Since I own a copy of PM (I'm one of those crazy guys that actually buys the software he uses to reward talented developers) it's no skin off my nose to experiment, but for the time and hassles it'll take until I figure it out. So I'm coming to you folks here for some discussion before I 'pull the trigger'.
So it looks like I'm faced with two choices, neither of which are entirely what I want. One gives me external store of all SMS and Email messages (FlexMail), but some functionality is disabled. The other gives me total integration with the OS (Outlook) but a kludgy and perhaps unreliable method for relocating and storing the data.
I'd be interested in hearing other thoughts, solutions or workarounds.
Anyone? Would really like to do one of two things:
1) Change default programs in WM to point to FlexMail so that I can send a photo via email directly from the camera application
or
2) Move storage for WM native email from internal memory to storage card.
If by Storage you mean only attachments than it's easy. You go to your inbox>options and then select the storage tab. You have the option to use astorage card to save attachments. If u don't mean that I'm afraid that I can't help u. Good luck.
I am using FlexMail and the built-in WM client. I've used them individually and side-by-side. FlexMail isn't too finger-friendly but it's OK and I prefer it. IMAP Idle support is useful to me. Using both clients gets around the problems that result because FlexMail doesn't support some of the HD2's features.
I have problems when I set either program to store information on a storage card. Eventually, something happens and I find I need to reset my e-mail accounts and start again. I think this is because the card isn't initialized in time for the mail programs to access it. It doesn't happen when I first start saving mail to a storage card but it always happens eventually. I now use internal memory but I'm very selective as to which messages I have on my HD2. For instance, I download headers initially and rarely keep more than a few days messages to hand. I use IMAP accounts so my mail is kept on my server if I do need something from, say, last year. I can search for older messages on the server without downloading anything; again, this saves space.
DrATty said:
I am using FlexMail and the built-in WM client. I've used them individually and side-by-side...
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I'd be grateful to hear your thoughts on what you feel each is best at. I haven't used the internal WM mail client much, but I have used FM and have been happy with it. I tried using IMAP but found that there was really no benefit for me, in that I'd want local copies on my home machine anyway (no ISP is perfect) and I can't save a copy of sent items the way we can with Outlook and POP.
My question is that if I use 3rd party apps like FlexMail and PocketInformant, how do we get them to integrate to the HD2 shell (Sense) so that they launch rather than the corresponding WM utilities? This tangentially gets me back to the original question about how to email a photo directly from the camera via FlexMail.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
hi, i used flexmail for some time, a while ago. i stoped using it when i change to hd2.
the only thing i realy miss, is the possibility to put a mail that is stored in one imap account folder to a folders on a different imap account. i didnt mean forwarding, i mean moving it between folders of different accounts.
aside from that i dont miss a thing on flexmail, the programmers are not getting dizzy to mentoin that they are using only ms windows features and functions in the interface. and i belive them, because the programm gives the user a realy hard time to use it. and that is not only on hd2 the case.
after all i can say i have a good time with flexmail but i would not buy it again. not with this interface that give the user the feeling, he is 100 years back in time.
mad
Flexmail 4.11 allows to access (i.e. Send/Receive) : Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, my office emails, AOL IMAP, FastMail, emails through IMAP, emails through SSL, custom port, etc, SMS, etc.
i prefer Flexmail, its much much better.
I installed Flexmail in external Storage Memory. I was accessing multiple emails through it.
After ROM update, and re-installation of Flexmail, i can see all the previous emails and email accounts in the first opening window , but actual account settings inside the Menu > Accounts , all are missing !
Now it doesnt send/rcv anymore.
Is there a way to get the previous all email settings back ?
Bry8Star said:
After ROM update, and re-installation of Flexmail, i can see all the previous emails and email accounts in the first opening window , but actual account settings inside the Menu > Accounts , all are missing !
Now it doesnt send/rcv anymore.
Is there a way to get the previous all email settings back ?
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It sounds like unfortunately you didn't back up your individual email account settings from within FlexMail. You'll have to recreate them. I suggest after doing so that you save the files to your card, so that if you upgrade your ROM again you can restore the email accounts easily.
What really surprises me is that there doesn't seem to be any significant Touch friendly Mail application out there.
Is there anything above and beyond Flexmail ?
Hello,
My company uses hosted Exchange Server for about 200 users, we have been using BB for many years, now we are free to go anyway we want.
Questions: When viewing e-mails from exchange account, can we move them to folders and when moving folders, can we type the name of the folder or do we have to scroll to find the one and then tap to move it? Or is there any app/add-on or customization we can get to allow this?
Also, do all folders get automatically synched to phone, or do we have to select which ones? I hope it syncs them all with no questions, especially when a new one is created on outlook.
Last question, is there a unified inbox for all folders, so e-mails in all folders (not just all accounts) displayed in one screen with icons next to them indicating they are in a folder? If not, that's cool.
I am just trying to move from BB to Windows Phone, and trying to figure out if it has the features I use most frequently.
Answers would really be appreciated.
You can move emails to folders. You must select the folder from a list. There are no apps or customizations AFAIK to change that.
All folders don't automatically get synced, but when you select a folder for the first time you get the option of turning on sync for that folder. Actually to be honest I am not sure if it syncs the folder just that once or if it will continue to sync that folder automatically.
There is no unified-folder view.
Thanks for the reply.
Someone answered this question else where with:
I figured it out recently, just click on bottom right "..." and you will see all the options you are looking for, all folders are there and can be selected + unified messaging....
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Is this possible? i don't own a WP7 device, so I can't try, can you check this please? Is this only for unified messaging from multiple accounts?
Regarding folder sync, the reason I asked is because if it automatically syncs all from exchange server, when you create a new folder on Outlook, you would not have to go back to you WP and select it. Is that the case?
Sync folders are not added automatically, you need to do so manually. The only folders synced by default are Inbox and Sent. Drafts can not be synced. All others can be but you have to set it up manually.
The assumed use case is that a user will only have a few folders inportant enough that they want to use the data and storage to sync them on the phone. Out of some 20-ish folders, I only sync 3 on my phone; the rest aren't time-critical. Exchange rules do a pretty good job of filtering the important from the unimportant for me. This way I can turn on the notification for new mail and have it mean something, rather than just have the phone buzzing all day (I get 300+ emails every day at work).
Just to add to this. They are not synced automatically but are listed automatically. You choose the folder then tell it to sync. after that it will follow the default settings for your exchange account and receive emails pushed.
Also you can pin any of those folders to your start screen. I have one for the directors, one for the CEO and one for staff that is always on my start screen.
We are using exchange 2010 at our office and it pretty much rocks. Also IE9 on Windows phone mango fully supports all outlook web mail options. Works great to access the extra calendars like rooms and such.
In your contacts also you can search the exchange server for an address. Exchange support rocks in windows phone.
Also download the emulator, setup an account and try it out. I think that's possible at least as you can test apps on the emulator.
lastly it also follows exchange rules. You can wipe the phone from (even the user can wipe there own) right through OWA on exchange 2010. Also you can set rules to force pin locks and i think although i haven't tried it, limit what the user can do.
Oh and one more thing... it has sharepoint built in. I haven't tried it yet as i just set up a sharepoint foundation server to pitch to the admins once i've worked more on it. That and onenote