PhonePlus! 1.00
This software enables you to call a contact using T9 technology, which makes it a lot easier to call even when driving.
amazing software which makes you wonder, why didnt microsoft thought about it before....
www.mesoftware.co.nr
wow, truely a great one.
i loved it, s it yours or you just recommended it to us?
if it is - great work, i bought it, very usefull this quick and fast calling by T9.
was similarly excited when I first saw it and JUST about to buy it when I realised that the software cannot be mapped to the hardware 'dial' button on the XDAII. Unfortunately, the developer says it's a limitation of the o/s but I'm afraid I'll have to give this wonderful software a miss. Great as it is, I think it's imperative that the software can be mapped to the dial button which is what I use to bring up the useless default phone application.
hi, give MobiDial a try, it's good and an be mapped to the green phone button...
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but mobidial is the same as the default dialer, it does exactly the same just looking pretier then the default.
why pay so much for something you have in default?
the phoneplus software uses a T9, like a regular cell phone.
i have been strugelling on dialing when im in the car for long time, but phoneplus is the software i know that overcome those problems of microsoft.
what mobidial better then the default dialer??
actulally MobiDial, cuz of it's different views, is very useful (of course never justified for actually paying for the thing)
the problem I saw with it is it is slow to load.
no, REALLY slow to load, this is the first time though, after that it runs in the background then it loads faster then. But i had to uninstall it cuz it wasnt consistent in its speed.
nargalzius said:
actulally MobiDial, cuz of it's different views, is very useful (of course never justified for actually paying for the thing)
the problem I saw with it is it is slow to load.
no, REALLY slow to load, this is the first time though, after that it runs in the background then it loads faster then. But i had to uninstall it cuz it wasnt consistent in its speed.
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Same problem I had, very slow and takes up about 3mb of memory.
Also, does anyone know is their a phone dialer software that once you enter a number directly allows you to store it directly instead of having to go to contacts, add new contact....
well, thats right, i forgot this important thing, this mobidial is realy slow, and truely takes a lot of memory, i assume they wrote the program in VB (who does that???).
and as i said, it has nothing new and exciting, if to pay for something, i want it to be perfect or at least something different from the default, and the "phoneplus" gives me what i need - fast dialing.
they really put their mind there on fast dialing by T9, by dialing by pictures, and by those big buttons.
what did you mean about different views? the looks of it?
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well, thats right, i forgot this important thing, this mobidial is realy slow, and truely takes a lot of memory, i assume they wrote the program in VB (who does that???).
and as i said, it has nothing new and exciting, if to pay for something, i want it to be perfect or at least something different from the default, and the "phoneplus" gives me what i need - fast dialing.
they really put their mind there on fast dialing by T9, by dialing by pictures, and by those big buttons.
what did you mean about different views? the looks of it?
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I totaly agree with you, i find phoneplus very usefull and fast.
actually i was looking for that kind of thing for long time, of course there are some improvements i had put in the software so it will be perfect, but for now this is the best software there is for dialing and im waiting for the free update the developers said they will publish for those who purchased.
Updates for Phoneplus
Hi guys,
Thanks for kind words :lol:. Phoneplus was written to cover a subject Microsft have greatly overlooked when they designed the default dialer.
While MobiDial is a great software indeed, it does not implement a solution for a quick immediate dailing of contacts from memroy single handed while driving your car.
What we tried to achieve in Phoneplus is not an absulote replacement (for the meantime) for MS default dailer but rather a tool to aid you dailing - T9-like search of contacts and Photodial.
However the next vesrsion will most likely take another step in that direction - DTMF dailing and perhaps CallerID and the sorts.
So hang in there and wait for our next realse.
Micha
ME Software
D9 rulez
I've also tried Phoneplus, but when I have more than 3 people with the same first name I have problems, because it is difficult to scroll between them.
D9 is the best solution for these reasons:
- you can have up to 6 contacts with the same name and it displays all of them (and then you can have more then just 3 numbers, I think it is 6 numbers)
- it is freeware
- it is very small
- it is simple and works well
The only thing is that it doesn't have a beautifull skin, but ... is this really important?
Bye,
Uros
i agree with you on the freeware issue, i wish all software were freeware (hehehe).
but, the main differnces between d9 and phoneplus are not by skin alone.
d9 is a bit slow (someone said VB? )
it doesnt have the great and easy to use OS like phoneplus.
Very important: you need to refresh each time !!! at first when i used d9 i couldnt understand why some of my contacts not available, then i realized i needed to refresh the database (!!????), thats a big "no no" in software developing.
plus the phoneplus has a great ability to use speeddial and photodial which i use a lot for fast and easy dialing.
and finaly - of course, the looks, it has a great look and they even put on their site a lot of skins to choose from.
another advantage is that it looks somhow like the default dialer which makes it a lot easier to get use to.
wow, i wrote a lot got to get back to work.
i just love this forum, lots of good ideas and i learn something new every day.
i think im hooked :wink:
by the way uros - are u one of the d9 developers? it seems like it :wink:
Phone Plus vs Finger Clix
I think Phone Plus is a great software, and it is intended to simplify the use of the phone, much more than D9 or Mobidial. The only alternative is Finger Clix, that I have been using up to now and find it a vital program. It will be interesting to compare these 2 programs (not the others)
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i agree with you on the freeware issue, i wish all software were freeware (hehehe).
but, the main differnces between d9 and phoneplus are not by skin alone.
d9 is a bit slow (someone said VB? )
it doesnt have the great and easy to use OS like phoneplus.
Very important: you need to refresh each time !!! at first when i used d9 i couldnt understand why some of my contacts not available, then i realized i needed to refresh the database (!!????), thats a big "no no" in software developing.
plus the phoneplus has a great ability to use speeddial and photodial which i use a lot for fast and easy dialing.
and finaly - of course, the looks, it has a great look and they even put on their site a lot of skins to choose from.
another advantage is that it looks somhow like the default dialer which makes it a lot easier to get use to.
wow, i wrote a lot got to get back to work.
i just love this forum, lots of good ideas and i learn something new every day.
i think im hooked
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First of all you are right in all the things you wrote, but Phon Plus has one big problem for me .... if I have 6 people with the name Tom how can I then scroll between them without the stylus? If he has more than 3 numbers...how it is displayed in Phone Plus?
Another thing...D9 has the speed dial. Also on PhonePLus page is not right written that it doesn't has it. It can contain 12 numbers.
For photo speed dial...I'll never use something like this.
Look...if Phone Plus would have the possibility to scrool between the names (for example the 5 or 6 that come out from the combination of the tapped letters) and would have more numbers to choose, I'll buy it.
Is there a possibility to test the program? I've used it when it was freeware.
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by the way uros - are u one of the d9 developers? it seems like it
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He he... I've never been a programmer. I'm only a user :wink: !
first of all, you are right about the 6 contacts with the same first name, just do what im doing -
they put an option there to look by the last name as well or to look by both first and last name.
so if i want to look for someone that his first name is the same as 5 others i just look for his last name, very simple, they did it really smart.
im guessing you are talking about their early version which was, and i agree very limited, and this version is by far close to perfect.
i have sent them an email regarding some features i want to see in the next updat, and they said they are working on few more things that will put it closer to a perfect dialer that you wont need any other software besides that (they even talked about sms feature - but im not sure they will put sms built in right on their next update).
i realy think those guys are serious, when i got my unlock code, they even mentioned that im entitled to every update for free for at least a year....thats something i never heard from a compnay (that they say it without you asking about it)
as to your question - yes, they have a trial version on their site, i think its for 12 or 15 days, cant remember, but its worth to at least try it, and if you only tried their early version, im sure you will love this one cause its so much better.
their site is www.mesoftware.co.nr
Urosh said:
First of all you are right in all the things you wrote, but Phon Plus has one big problem for me .... if I have 6 people with the name Tom how can I then scroll between them without the stylus? If he has more than 3 numbers...how it is displayed in Phone Plus?
I'll buy it.
Is there a possibility to test the program? I've used it when it was freeware.
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what do you mean?
sure you can scroll....when the phoneplus finds more than 3 contacts it indicates by a little red arrow that you can scroll, just hit the "down" key on the D-pad.
i agree with mink, they did it very simple to use and very efficient, i wonder if they are a big company and if they have more products...i didnt see any of other products on their site.
you have free trial for 15 days on the site www.mesoftware.co.nr
Mink said:
first of all, you are right about the 6 contacts with the same first name, just do what im doing -
they put an option there to look by the last name as well or to look by both first and last name.
so if i want to look for someone that his first name is the same as 5 others i just look for his last name, very simple, they did it really smart.
im guessing you are talking about their early version which was, and i agree very limited, and this version is by far close to perfect.
i have sent them an email regarding some features i want to see in the next updat, and they said they are working on few more things that will put it closer to a perfect dialer that you wont need any other software besides that (they even talked about sms feature - but im not sure they will put sms built in right on their next update).
i realy think those guys are serious, when i got my unlock code, they even mentioned that im entitled to every update for free for at least a year....thats something i never heard from a compnay (that they say it without you asking about it)
as to your question - yes, they have a trial version on their site, i think its for 12 or 15 days, cant remember, but its worth to at least try it, and if you only tried their early version, im sure you will love this one cause its so much better.
their site is www.mesoftware.co.nr
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OK.... you have persuaded me. I think I'll try it the next week-end.
You are right, I have tested the earlier versions (i had a lot of problems using it).
For the SMS options it would be very usefull to have included an SMS client with the same mode of writing like you search for contacts with the same numeric pad (I think like on the normal GSM)... it is to write with one hand.
Do you think Mink that they will include it in the next version? I hope so.
Thanks all and bye,
Uros
OK, I've tried it for 15 minutes and I can say I'm with you guys.
Phoneplus! has become better than it was before.
I'll buy it.
Kind regards,
Uros
LOL, a little group influence didnt hurt anyone.
I really think that phoneplus had become a name that everybody say, i think i was one of the first poeple who discovered this software and im glad those guys made it this far with what i think is the best software in the field.
i realy hope they will keep their promise and update the software more as they said they would, i cant wait for the next update.
what i really need is an sms built in this software, i have emailed them about it.
Related
Ok, Im working with the mUn edition of WM6. Anyone know how he disabled all but the password setup screen?
Ok i found only one instance pointing to welcome.exe which is supposed to launch this. help me out. what does this registry key mean?
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSWELCOME]
"3"=dword:0
"2"=dword:0
"1"="welcome.exe"
"0"="Welcome"
Yeah', i'd like to help out, as i started to think about cooking My own rom'',
mUn's may be one of better choices since it's quite clean and so on..
But what else was there about "calling chefs?'"
1. clean,
2. well documented(as i pointed out in mobiz edition thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298692 )
3. STABLE(working Most BASIC Functionalities like Wifi, MMS, Sim card phonebook usability)
I found that 98% of battery drain problems i've heard thus far were all caused by some today component, or other app that worked in background, and only when certain setting had been changed did ALL started to be baad.
"all of a sudden"
Keep up a GOOD WORK, set some clear objective what goal/ target do You want to achieve with this rom(speed, stability, minimality, cleaningness, usability>) so people will know what to expect and not to be dissappointed..
I am a little tired of: "my rom is faster than yours" approach..
i'd rather hear: this rom "feels" quicker in response, and is stable(optionally rock solid )
Hope that this "clean fixed" rom will have soon "a definitive guide" with recommended installs(freeware for ex.) to have as a start clean, stable rom, and greatest funcionality(additionall free soft installable by user),
Just so our Wizards will Stop being "toys" and will become TOOLS with a "LOT" extra(not just little extra).. as i read the other day of "one of us" giving it to his 14 year old daughter(nothing against young people, or girls), just..
i want to use a solid TOOL, even if I will goof off with it, and use it like 14 year old.
Cheers to ALL out ther Working, so WE CAN Enjoy our micro computers.
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Wiza200
MiniSD 2GB/1GB
Primary use: Mp3 Player (22hours hours playback TCPMP on WM5 Molskis')
Radio Version: 02.61.11
Version;Protocol Version:ExtROM Version:
WM6 by: mUn, faria V5.0, PDAMobiz V.5, MB, MTA
Possibly soon switching back to WM5(molski's)
..Be quiet, and the world will start singing
lolek5 said:
Yeah', i'd like to help out, as i started to think about cooking My own rom'',
mUn's may be one of better choices since it's quite clean and so on..
But what else was there about "calling chefs?'"
1. clean,
2. well documented(as i pointed out in mobiz edition thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298692 )
3. STABLE(working Most BASIC Functionalities like Wifi, MMS, Sim card phonebook usability)
I found that 98% of battery drain problems i've heard thus far were all caused by some today component, or other app that worked in background, and only when certain setting had been changed did ALL started to be baad.
"all of a sudden"
Keep up a GOOD WORK, set some clear objective what goal/ target do You want to achieve with this rom(speed, stability, minimality, cleaningness, usability>) so people will know what to expect and not to be dissappointed..
I am a little tired of: "my rom is faster than yours" approach..
i'd rather hear: this rom "feels" quicker in response, and is stable(optionally rock solid )
Hope that this "clean fixed" rom will have soon "a definitive guide" with recommended installs(freeware for ex.) to have as a start clean, stable rom, and greatest funcionality(additionall free soft installable by user),
Just so our Wizards will Stop being "toys" and will become TOOLS with a "LOT" extra(not just little extra).. as i read the other day of "one of us" giving it to his 14 year old daughter(nothing against young people, or girls), just..
i want to use a solid TOOL, even if I will goof off with it, and use it like 14 year old.
Cheers to ALL out ther Working, so WE CAN Enjoy our micro computers.
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Orange
Wiza200
MiniSD 2GB/1GB
Primary use: Mp3 Player (22hours hours playback TCPMP on WM5 Molskis')
Radio Version: 02.61.11
Version;Protocol Version:ExtROM Version:
WM6 by: mUn, faria V5.0, PDAMobiz V.5, MB, MTA
Possibly soon switching back to WM5(molski's)
..Be quiet, and the world will start singing
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Here is what I am trying to accomplish, I want to make the mUn's edition as stripped as possible keeping it together but giving a solid building ground for other chefs and also a good clean playground for users who just want a ROM without the mess. Once I accomplish 2 or 3 more things the Ultimate Fixed mUns version will be released. First I have got to get this welcome thing fixed. Until then, Im not even working on anything else for the ROM
Wow.. : )
That's a VERY GOOD approach there..
A step by step.
That's how some things CAN Get done : )
Thanks Man : )
I Think We all can use that : )
I'd like to start some kind of central repository/ interactive table with a Comparison of diffrent roms :futures, prog version, posssible issues: strong points, weak points.
There had already been so many threads like: best freeware soft for wizard, and since there are unorganized comments all over thread finding usefull, NOT Doubled application names, links, descriptions, becomes very hard if not impossible.
Some kind of ranking of apps ?
that may be more to xda-dev guys/ site owner/administrator if it could be incorporated into structures of BB
Possibly it could look like auto rom cooker, that i've seen for some older pda..
maybe it could be crossreferenced for different platforms, like alpine, wizard, himalaya, but centrally connected to one database so more data will be gathered and make it more universal: sometimes guys from another forum know of some software, that other users of WM5/6 could find usefull, but do not have time to go to every of 5 000 threads looking for a(good, or any in that case) free MMS Backup utility !?
.. found a couple of utils. for sms backup, saying they will back up email, sms, and mms.. well, they do only sms,
and considering that i have flashed my wizadr about 15 times during last week.., trying to use wizard as primary phone and keep track of contacts, is impossible without efficient backup system ..
Yet so many soft is being installed without EVEr knowing what for, and or how to use it and are already on the rom cooked.
Some are being used everyday during normal operations and which use and "fixed problems credit"are being given to a "new WM system"
I think it should be a cross(bow)referenced, or interweaved: forum and WIKI so forum will become more organized and more usefull to the community. And WIKI part will give ability to add more descriptions, and make building a database of app references, usage, and rating without making it all unclear and timewaste for scrolling through .. well an "off topic" comments , opinions still could be added under interactive portion of wiki..for all who like to get and give opinions(like youtube's sectioned view: 1.video,2.related videos, 3 comments, 4 unrelated latest videos.
: 1.File, app, or rom reference portion, 2.related threads/topics, comparisons, 3. forum comments thread 4. unrelated threads, comments, apps, comparisons/ news.
with system like this we all could save some serious time and not get overloaded by unnecessary info.
/time to get some rest
Cheers!
lolek5 said:
Wow.. : )
That's a VERY GOOD approach there..
A step by step.
That's how some things CAN Get done : )
Thanks Man : )
I Think We all can use that : )
I'd like to start some kind of central repository/ interactive table with a Comparison of diffrent roms :futures, prog version, posssible issues: strong points, weak points.
There had already been so many threads like: best freeware soft for wizard, and since there are unorganized comments all over thread finding usefull, NOT Doubled application names, links, descriptions, becomes very hard if not impossible.
Some kind of ranking of apps ?
that may be more to xda-dev guys/ site owner/administrator if it could be incorporated into structures of BB
Possibly it could look like auto rom cooker, that i've seen for some older pda..
maybe it could be crossreferenced for different platforms, like alpine, wizard, himalaya, but centrally connected to one database so more data will be gathered and make it more universal: sometimes guys from another forum know of some software, that other users of WM5/6 could find usefull, but do not have time to go to every of 5 000 threads looking for a(good, or any in that case) free MMS Backup utility !?
.. found a couple of utils. for sms backup, saying they will back up email, sms, and mms.. well, they do only sms,
and considering that i have flashed my wizadr about 15 times during last week.., trying to use wizard as primary phone and keep track of contacts, is impossible without efficient backup system ..
Yet so many soft is being installed without EVEr knowing what for, and or how to use it and are already on the rom cooked.
Some are being used everyday during normal operations and which use and "fixed problems credit"are being given to a "new WM system"
I think it should be a cross(bow)referenced, or interweaved: forum and WIKI so forum will become more organized and more usefull to the community. And WIKI part will give ability to add more descriptions, and make building a database of app references, usage, and rating without making it all unclear and timewaste for scrolling through .. well an "off topic" comments , opinions still could be added under interactive portion of wiki..for all who like to get and give opinions(like youtube's sectioned view: 1.video,2.related videos, 3 comments, 4 unrelated latest videos.
: 1.File, app, or rom reference portion, 2.related threads/topics, comparisons, 3. forum comments thread 4. unrelated threads, comments, apps, comparisons/ news.
with system like this we all could save some serious time and not get overloaded by unnecessary info.
/time to get some rest
Cheers!
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How about we call it xdawiz? I already own the domain and have a forum up. Ill let you put it together and make you a super moderator if you want. I am working with my own cooked mess for rom building and i have it down to 2 batch files, baring the fact you dont screw up. then there are a couple more if you do. Been trying to write an app but got too caught up in the muns release.
As it sits, i cant really get involved in another project until i get my welcome issue fixed.
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Ok, Im working with the mUn edition of WM6. Anyone know how he disabled all but the password setup screen?
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I think it's a good idea to at least keep the screen alignment wizard in after a hardreset because I heard the the screen would be useless otherwise.
NTS, are you trying to re-enable it?
In terms of clean, it would be nice to have the original keyboard back as well as no other themes. THAT is a clean ROM. If all of the registry fixes are in there, then we all have something to work with.
JMHO.
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NTS, are you trying to re-enable it?
In terms of clean, it would be nice to have the original keyboard back as well as no other themes. THAT is a clean ROM. If all of the registry fixes are in there, then we all have something to work with.
JMHO.
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Keyboard is nice even if it's not original. It's still clean though.
@NotTooSmart: check your PM, I found something I might be useful to solve this.
I strongly believe that the ROM should be as close as possible to that which should have been released by M$. I do think the keyboard ought to be an option (a separate cab file), but in order to have a TRULY vanilla ROM, that and other extras cannot be included. If you include the keyboard, then it's just a matter of time before everything else ends up finding it's way in along with it.
JMHO
nottoosmart said:
How about we call it xdawiz? I already own the domain and have a forum up. Ill let you put it together and make you a super moderator if you want. I am working with my own cooked mess for rom building and i have it down to 2 batch files, baring the fact you dont screw up. then there are a couple more if you do. Been trying to write an app but got too caught up in the muns release.
As it sits, i cant really get involved in another project until i get my welcome issue fixed.
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I hear ya..
Well, doing that would be something really good, but i would like to do this project in a most usefull way: of greatest benefit for all, and i am not sure if setting up a separate web page is a good idea, or maybe integration into xda-developers could do it../
would it be possible to set it up in a way, so that other site could use databases /to display INSIDE of forum structure..
If so, than we could have some serious interest comming from other good sites that will be interested in an UNIFIED approach to reviewing and inputting evaluated data.
As far as Keyboard..the skin.. yes it is cool, but for some reason problem arose with being unable to use phone pad: as it is not switching to it: staying at "cool skin"..
maybe some file is missing for that functionalty to be enabled..?
lolek5 said:
I hear ya..
Well, doing that would be something really good, but i would like to do this project in a most usefull way: of greatest benefit for all, and i am not sure if setting up a separate web page is a good idea, or maybe integration into xda-developers could do it../
would it be possible to set it up in a way, so that other site could use databases /to display INSIDE of forum structure..
If so, than we could have some serious interest comming from other good sites that will be interested in an UNIFIED approach to reviewing and inputting evaluated data.
As far as Keyboard..the skin.. yes it is cool, but for some reason problem arose with being unable to use phone pad: as it is not switching to it: staying at "cool skin"..
maybe some file is missing for that functionalty to be enabled..?
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I have fixed the phone pad issue. That was easy. I have tested and it is working on my phone right now. The only issue I have with making this a truly vanilla rom is, I didnt do any of the work to the base os. I can remove the Aero and any other tag marks set in by mun, but this will still be his rom, but instead of calling it repacked, we gonna call it stripped. LOL. As for the keypad, that is easy to change, but again, then i am taking things out that make this muns rom. Unless I get his ok, I cant do that.
nottoosmart said:
How about we call it xdawiz? I already own the domain and have a forum up. Ill let you put it together and make you a super moderator if you want. I am working with my own cooked mess for rom building and i have it down to 2 batch files, baring the fact you dont screw up. then there are a couple more if you do. Been trying to write an app but got too caught up in the muns release.
As it sits, i cant really get involved in another project until i get my welcome issue fixed.
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nice plug for the other forum just registered hope it takes off
easymob said:
nice plug for the other forum just registered hope it takes off
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Not really a plug, but if its already being paid for might as well use it. I was, up till the mun rom, working ona a gui applications that I was going to call XDAWiz for build roms. LOL. These things are in my head before they hit paper. As for now, i need to fix the damn welcome screen. Someone took my thread in a diffrent direction. LOL.
are you trying to make so it skips some of the screens when you first flash it
if so is that much of chore to to tap a few more extra taps when flashing a rom
easymob said:
are you trying to make so it skips some of the screens when you first flash it
if so is that much of chore to to tap a few more extra taps when flashing a rom
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No, lol. I want to make it so you have to go through the whole setup rather than only doing the alignment and password. I want the ability to setup the email, timezone, date, all of it.
i know you prob done this ages ago but the orwell version has this have you looked at that version yet
is it a modifed welcome.exe? I've never looked into it much, but if i run welcome.exe on Faria's rom all i get is screen alignment not the initial setup.
notyourdaddy said:
is it a modifed welcome.exe? I've never looked into it much, but if i run welcome.exe on Faria's rom all i get is screen alignment not the initial setup.
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that is what im trying to fix
which welcome.exe does the mun rom have? I can pull it off of another rom if you like. Anything else you need help with for your rom?
Hey guys!
I did a thorough search of these forums and was amazed to find nothing about the wonderful program DateLens Calendar. (Apparently it used to be called FishCal).
It's a front-end for the clunky Calendar in WM5 and it has a very interesting GUI. Not "interesting-gimmicky", "interesting-FUNCTIONAL!"
It's freeware, so check it out here:
http://www.windsorinterfaces.com/datelens.shtml
Enjoy!
Dax.
I forgot to mention...
Only problem I've found with the program is that is doesn't have an icon, as in, it uses the default program icon, which is kinda ugly.
Never fear! I realised that it should be possible to use icon from a DLL file as a program icon (Just like in Windows xp, 98, etc)
Simply open the shortcut in something like PHM Notepad and add the following to use the standard Calendar icon.
?outres.dll,-10002
So the contents of the shortcut file should now look something like this:
45#"\Program Files\DateLens PPC\DateLensApp.exe"?outres.dll,-10002
Snoop around; Opening other shortcuts in PHM Notepad will reveal some interesting syntax. I think I saw one that said something like "Icon=" but I can't find it again.
Psst!: In PHM Notepad, don't forget to change the file types from *.txt to *.* or you won't see the shortcuts!
Ohhh maaan!
This puppy doesn't seem to work correctly!
It's great as a proof of concept, but doesn't function properly on my handset.
(I noticed when I try to enter a date, it comes up with a year of 1753!)
The author says that it could be due to regional settings, but this has not fixed it the problem in my case.
Has anyone else tried it and got it to work?
Now that I've seen it in operation, I can't stand to go back to other software! Even AgendaOne!
Dax.
Yes, I have the year 1753 problem as well. My regional settings is of the UK region. And when I tried to make it 2007, it goes 9988. Anyway, I bet it may be caused by WM5 problem rather than regional settings. Also, it seems slow in starting the app as well. Much slower than what I've experienced with other PIM (e.g. PocketInformant). However, once you had it in the memory, it seems alright.
Having said that, this app rocks! I wonder why it isn't getting the publicity that it should. SEE THE VIDEO DEMO HERE!!
It is sooooo aye-Fone-ish. They should have done more advertisements. I bet other PIM (probably Apple?) will like to have get their interface
Thanks Hanmin!
Much appreciated!
That calendar app looks very promising. Anyone talk to the developer yet on the WM5 issue??
He's said that he won't be working on it anymore, despite the fact he still thinks the concept is good (So do we!!), BUT that he is considering open-sourcing it.
Even if he does this, we would need dedicated & talented programmers to work on the code.
Do we have any takers?
Has the author released the source yet??
Holy crap, this is amazing. Well done on finding this little gem, I've been looking all over for an outlook replacement that was easier to work with but wasn't overloaded with to many features.
This is a great find, free as well! bonus.
Very nice. Has anyone figured out how to enter new appointments with the correct year and day?
@Kwan: No, unfortunately not. What we need is for everyone who's interested to ask the author to make it open source. I'm happy to co-ordinate the SourceForge site and he's already sent me the code, we just need his permission to open source it.
His name is Ben Bederson: [email protected]
Please be polite and courteous! If he says no, please don't hassle him. (But I really hope he says yes!)
All the best,
Hi. I'm new here. This app looks great! Has there been any updates? Has anyone tried it on WM6?
This is where you'd find updates if there were any.
You need to email Ben if you want this thing to go anywhere. We need all the support we can get!
ei.. you are back hows your effort with the code?
This app is pretty nice. I have been using it for the past day.
There are some issues with it though. Creating appointments causes an error and makes the app crash. It just needs to be fine tuned a little more.
Extremely impressive and works on my HTC Wizard running WM6 minus the already mentioned issues. I've done my part by sending Ben an email. Anyone have any new info on the appointment entry and date fixes? It is really all this app needs to be fully functional and more intuitive than any other calendar on the market. I can't believe this thing has gotten no press.
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Extremely impressive and works on my HTC Wizard running WM6 minus the already mentioned issues. I've done my part by sending Ben an email. Anyone have any new info on the appointment entry and date fixes? It is really all this app needs to be fully functional and more intuitive than any other calendar on the market. I can't believe this thing has gotten no press.
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I most deff 2nd this. This needs more support!!!
I know!! It makes me crazy to think that so few people on this board have shown interest!!
anyone *slip* me the code.. to see if I can fix the issues
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I know!! It makes me crazy to think that so few people on this board have shown interest!!
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Because probable nobody knows about it. This is posted in the General forum. It needs to be posted in the Development and Hacking forum to get more traffic.
-- 09 July 2007 ---
Update:
Added a few icons
Added the default Vista clock
Added a new dock with Aero Glass like effects
Screenies:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Notes:
My next release will contain a more complete set of icons and shortcuts already preconfigured (for those lazy ones )
See installation instructions below.
Attachments can be found at the bottom of this post.
-- 05 July 2007 ---
Update: I have attached the theme and image files used in this theme.
Notes:
First of all, THIS IS A THEME FOR WAD (Wisbar Advance Desktop). If you don't know how to use WAD. Please, don't bother using this. Everything will just become much more difficult for you. WAD complicates things if you don't know what you're doing. But if you're really interested, play around with it, I'm sure you're gonna love it and realize that it actually makes things easier and more beautiful. If you really can't figure it out, then WAD is simply not for you.
And as I mentioned, it's still under construction and incomplete.
I made this for people who prefers to use WM5 for its stability but is forced to use WM6 because they hate the way WM5 looks. But you can also use this theme on WM6 devices that uses WAD.
These theme is designed for VGA devices, particularly the Universal (Everything will be bigger and misaligned with QVGA devices)
I've also included icons/images that are not being used by the theme that you may be interested to use in your own customization. All images are on the \Common Images folder.
Images that I used on this theme are not all mine. Most them are found courtesy of Google Images, some of them found on other forums. I just modified them to become 32bit tga files compatible with WAD's support for transparencies. If you found images that I shouldn't be using, just tell me and will remove it.
Feel free to tell me what's good and what sucks. I don't care how you say it, I'm used to criticisms. :þ
Installation Instructions:
Remove all your today plugins on the today screen. Just add them later on on the WAD screen.
Install WAD* on your device memory (not Storage/Storage Card). Everything will run a lot smoother and problem free this way.
*(not included in this package, it's not a free app. get in on the Lakeridge website)
The zip file contains 2 folders, Extract them on your Universal's \Themes\Desktop directory. (Yes, overwrite the Common Images folder, this one has everything that that folder has)
Go to the Theme Manager. Make sure you select Vista on both Landscape and Portrait modes.
Enjoy. :þ And be amazed how smooth it works. And see that it actually only uses around 1Mb of RAM. :þ
Important:
Most icons point to apps that I use, that you possibly don't have. You have to change some icons to point to something else.
eg.
Media Player opens up CorePlayer
Internet Explorer opens up Opera Browser
Dictionary opens up Lexisgoo... etc.
-- 04 July 2007 ---
So everybody's crazy over WM6 eh? So what's with WM6 that we don't have on WM5?
Html formatting on Outlook Mobile (we could get several other messaging apps that can do that right?)
Smart search on contacts and Outlook Mobile.. yeah this is awesome..
docx and xlsx file support.. I don't use Office 2007 yet anyways
High Res on PIE? Well.. Opera does it far better! or you can use PIE Plus. (Helmi's WM5 AKU3.5 1.3.1 has PIE High Res support)
And finally.. better looking taskbar and icons! Now this, I may be able to offer a possible solution. ;þ
I was so addicted over WM6 lately until I recently discovered this app called WAD (Wisbar Advance Desktop). It is one of the most fully customizable skinning apps for the PPC around. It has the full capability of replacing your today screen (It's possible to have multiple virtual pages). And even hide the taskbar and sofkeys. Giving you a full screen of beauty. And guess what, unlike it's sibling WA (Wisbar Advance). It does not eat too much RAM nor slow the PPC down.
Since I use WM5, I realized I don't need to worry about video call or any bugs.. Suddenly.. I don't like WM6 anymore. ;þ
I personally does not use WA, it really really slows everything down esp. on our devices since we have VGA. VGA = bigger images.. and if the skinner did not compress the image files to it's maximum, it will really eat up ur RAM. But WAD is a different story.. you gotta try it too see for yourself.
Here are samples screenies:
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Note: The available program memory on the lower right is real. Although the only currently open app that time was the Screen capture utility and Outlook Mobile.
I'm using Jwright's 1.90.96 WM5 AKU3.2 ROM.
The theme is still under construction. My goal is to put everything I need on this screen so I would no longer need to use the "real" Start Menu.
Every icon/button reacts to screen taps. Docks are all trasluscent the way they should be. I'm also doing my best to make sure the images are the smallest size as possible (using 32bit/24bit TGA format compressed RLE) for it not to consume too much RAM.
If demands are high, I'll give you guys a copy when it's completely done.
P.S.
WAD is not a free software. If you can get it free, then that's no longer my concern. All I will provide is the theme.
WAD is not for everybody. It's only for people who wants to get full visual tweaking for their PPC's. If you're satisfied with the built-in today screen, then WAD is pointless for you.
But here's a tip, WAD consumes less RAM and processing time than most Today plug-ins.
That looks fantastic, nice work!
Just a question - what would happen if you tried using True VGA mode with that skin, say, using oZVGA or something like that?
Awesome!
What is the difference between WA and WAD? How much Memory does it need to run it?
Looks nice by the way. I myself use Helmi's 3.5 v1.3.1
You can go here to see the difference between WA and WAD : http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/index.php
Beautifull skin DaVince ... Could you upload it when you'll finish it ? Thx !!
Can you provide us step by step instruction...
wow, awesome job mate!
Well that sure looks sweet..
but a few things i've always hated with WM5:
-it's impossible to simply add a new number to a contact from the call list.. you could only save it as a new contact alltogether.
-send/receive business cards always worked funny.
-Contacts seemed isolated from Call history.. while with WM6, you can see the last call from a contact, group the calls from the contact, etc.. all with a click.
there's no denying that WM6 at the current form needs a lot of work to clean up, and i'm personally getting frustrated seeing 4-5 different ROMs up as stickies, and 20 other options below.. and each one has its own problem
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So everybody's crazy over WM6 eh? So what's with WM6 that we don't have on WM5?
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Kitchens?
I personally use WA (as an OEM) and Pocket Breeze (as a cab), works great for me.
nice!
Would u like to share this skin?
I hate all decorations. and other husks. I felt that the beauty of the operating system is not important ... important that os is worked ... and worked steadily. everything else does not matter. the reason for my move to WM6 was no rush for decorations and the beauty of a humdrum desire to be in front of the whole world // сиречь просто хотел померяцца письками с другими кпкодами .. до сих пор сидящими на вм3 и вм5
Well Written DaVince. After all wm5 used by you is steady and best and just tweak it and you have a better deal than wm6 for the time being.
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First post updated, theme attached
Hi guys,
First post updated, theme attached. Hope you like it. For those who doesn't, that's what I thought about WAD too at first.. until I actually tried it.
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Well Written DaVince. After all wm5 used by you is steady and best and just tweak it and you have a better deal than wm6 for the time being.
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Hi there aniel. I still thank you for being the one responsible of giving me a copy of Jwright's WM5 ROM. WM5 isn't really better than WM6, but it's a lot more stable and bug free. Not to mention every feature works like they should be (eg. Video Call, Wifi). That's the reason I'm sticking to WM5.
mo3ulla said:
I hate all decorations. and other husks. I felt that the beauty of the operating system is not important ... important that os is worked ... and worked steadily.
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How about having a perfectly working, stable AND beautiful looking ROM?
grayme said:
Kitchens?
I personally use WA (as an OEM) and Pocket Breeze (as a cab), works great for me.
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Oh yes kitchens! I like 'em too. A great way to save Storage memory by adding them via OEM on the ROM itself. Wish we had that on WM5... btw, WA uses too much memory.. around 3Mb on VGA skins.. totally unacceptable.
cktlcmd said:
What is the difference between WA and WAD? How much Memory does it need to run it?
Looks nice by the way. I myself use Helmi's 3.5 v1.3.1
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WA skins the taskbar, uses around 3Mb of RAM on VGA skins. WAD skins the today screen, uses around 1Mb (or more, if you add more objects esp if the images are not well compressed).
ok you convinced me: only thing is that I can't tolerate having a today screen without spb pocket plus since I have many many progs and need to have easy, rapid and accessible shortcuts..but this will surely give my uni a boost of life, looking like a vista based umpc..so guess I'll try it soon..as soon as it's completed!
daVince, we should really duck to you!
Have just downloaded WAD and installed your theme! Looks really good and the ram usage really low. I am using WM6 and getting around 25mb of free memory when running. GOOD WORK!
i can`t seem to run WAD without running Wisbar advance, what am i doing wrong.....
Kind DaVince,thx for sharing
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ok you convinced me: only thing is that I can't tolerate having a today screen without spb pocket plus since I have many many progs and need to have easy, rapid and accessible shortcuts..but this will surely give my uni a boost of life, looking like a vista based umpc..so guess I'll try it soon..as soon as it's completed!
daVince, we should really duck to you!
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I hate SPB pocket plus.. it uses too much resources.
But guess what. Icons used by Pocket Plus are completely compatible with WAD! Just make your own shortcuts using Pocket Plus' icons if you want! Give it a shot first.. play around with it.
davieshyland said:
i can`t seem to run WAD without running Wisbar advance, what am i doing wrong.....
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Just Go to Programs and open up Wisbar Advance Desktop. Or copy that shortcut on your \Windows\Startup folder.
and what about spb diary? is there a way I can manage to have it accessed within 1 or 2 clicks? sorry for asking so many stupid questions but usability goes first, then comes appearance!
Don't bother to upgrade to Bing 5.0.11249.0: it is pure bling. They have made the interface "prettier" but took away alot of the functionality. Not only does it not give proper "live" feedback for turn-by-turn directions, a good part of the map is covered by icons that you can't move, especially in landscape mode. Movie and other searches are also far more tedious.
This is definitely a downgrade. But why?! Google has upped the ante on GPS software and it looks like if MS has folded. Come on, guys - get real! Fumbles like this one will surely doom the windows platform!
I unfortunatly agree with you
The graphics face lift is welcome, but everything else is crap.
I agree too.
Me too... One of the best functions of the old version was the ability to SMS the search results to someone... cant do that.
It also shuts off the screen... even if you're in GPS mode. Cannot do long/lat as before, doesnt tell how many sats you're seeing... it is exactly what you guys said... crap.
I thought I had a copy of the latest old build somewhere but I dont... anyone care to help?
Found the old one... "Normality has been restored"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4012497
Because of this things that I like sites that archive old versions. Like OldVersion
Go to m.bing.com and follow the links to the older versions and choose either the WM5 or the WM6 version, not the WM6.1 or 6.5.
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Because of this things that I like sites that archive old versions. Like OldVersion
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Great find!
Thanks!
trudat,
but what do you guys think about the voice recognition?
I think Windows Mobile Marketplace still has the old version. The old version is 4.x, the new is 5.x
I could be mistaken but I think the voice recognition engine is the same in the old version and new version. I didn't have any issues with 4.x voice recognition.
It could also be the fact that 5.x is in beta. I would give MS the benefit of the doubt, they are trying. I would use the Feedback option in Help to give MS some constructive criticism
VR seems to work the same. No major improvements there. I hope this beta will lead to something else more significant, but I'm not holding my breath.
I never really used the voice recognition cause it never really worked too well. I let my fingers do the talking
Que?
On my Kaiser it works fine for a while like for many people, and then suddenly says my Phone isn't supported. WTF? But OK, I too will happily downgrade, as it really doesn't appear to be any better than the previous version. I'd beg to differ with those who say the speech recognition doesn't work though. I find it one of the best things about WLS/Bing. It works absolutely amazingly well. But then you do need to speak clearly. I use it with a BT headset too, great results.
Yeah, despite apparently working fine, it quits automatically on my Kaiser saying it isn't supported. Oh well.
Played around with a bit on a coworker's TP, and it's definitely a mixed bag. It's very nice-looking, and I'm impressed how it integrates Bing's "pic of the day" styling. Really nice-looking.
It is definitely less functional in many ways. The gas price finder never worked for me anyways (prices were never up-to-date and correct around here), but the theatre listings would definitely be missed. Luckily there's other apps for that.
It IS, however, better for web searches. In fact, it's surprisingly useful for web searches, since it seems a little snappier than using bing.com (or google.com, for that matter) in the browser. Hopefully MS tacks some of the better local search functions back on.
It's just crossing my mind this idea to downgrade from WP7 to WM6.x. Yes, it has been told that this two platforms are completely different thing, on hardware and software base. But, after looking at the HD2 forum that is dedicated to HD2s update from WM6.5 to WP7 the idea just could be right.
Switching from WM6.5 to WP7 made me nostalgic for WM6.5 and it's programs, settings... Well, I guess that, as a lot of people, I haven't asked around about WP7 enough to see how it works and what it gives. But, I do like this phone, and especially 1GHz processor, 5MP camera, touch screen and other things (o yeah the battery is much better) that it comes hard to me to have this mighty thing that is all locked up. It could be that in a year or so, from now, it will be better than WM6.5 but considering all that time needed to get it close to WM6.5 and original idea to create WP7 (to make it easy-to-use and lot less custom) it stands on this OS just like gray cloud.
Just wanted to write this, and if someone shares my opinion I would be most glad to hear about it.
Maybe it will be possible to get to WM6.5...
nope cant be done sorry. just install the mango beta it blows wm6.5 out of the water.
Yes, I do try to think like that, and then I realize that I need SatNav. And, no GPS navigation software can't be installed, for time being, there is no Garmin, IGo, TomTom...
I'll definitely stick to this phone, and Mango I'll update. Hope it'll make my life simpler.
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Yes, I do try to think like that, and then I realize that I need SatNav. And, no GPS navigation software can't be installed, for time being, there is no Garmin, IGo, TomTom...
I'll definitely stick to this phone, and Mango I'll update. Hope it'll make my life simpler.
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Garmin StreetPilot is now in Marketplace for a hefty $39.99, but unfortunately still does not include fully installed maps. Maps can however be downloaded ahead of time to the phone for the relevant route.
for unlocked device you have Navigon select...
My Arrive came with TeleNav. And the built in Bing stuff does turn by turn (with an upgrade coming in Mango). I don't see GPS apps as being an issue.
Yeap, now the future looks better.
as longer I use WP7 the more I wish a downgrade to WM6.5!!!
Where is my (momentary VERY needed) possibility to use tethering!? How do I synch "get away ALL your music and videos, blahblah..." all my things WITHOUT the scrapy Zune-SW, and (haha!) how I can increase the memory for it!?
****ty menues (just 5 stupid icons -what I there are several, much more options!?!?), it's not possible for the developers to install a dedicated database (so you have to make it "in the cloud") -yeah!!!! It's SO stupid on a MOBILE phone, as there often is the possibility that you're NOT online, or with GPRS or EDGE only -and it is SO funny if you're in a train and all 5 secondy it switsh from G to E to G3 to G to HSDPA. The last ****! :-(
The IE on it often don't work. Hmmm -let's use Opera. Uuuh -damned -I forget: you can't install ANYTHING!!!
OK -exceptional jailbreak, but I never did it before, and I don't want it -but I HAVE to do it, if I want to USE my phone.
I think it's better to reactivate my HD2 -there is ALL functionable, without any problems. And: it contains much data that i need -and there is NO possibilty to migrate SMS (i.e.) to WP7 -VERY poor performance Microsoft!!!!
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as longer I use WP7 the more I wish a downgrade to WM6.5!!!
Where is my (momentary VERY needed) possibility to use tethering!? How do I synch "get away ALL your music and videos, blahblah..." all my things WITHOUT the scrapy Zune-SW, and (haha!) how I can increase the memory for it!?
****ty menues (just 5 stupid icons -what I there are several, much more options!?!?), it's not possible for the developers to install a dedicated database (so you have to make it "in the cloud") -yeah!!!! It's SO stupid on a MOBILE phone, as there often is the possibility that you're NOT online, or with GPRS or EDGE only -and it is SO funny if you're in a train and all 5 secondy it switsh from G to E to G3 to G to HSDPA. The last ****! :-(
The IE on it often don't work. Hmmm -let's use Opera. Uuuh -damned -I forget: you can't install ANYTHING!!!
OK -exceptional jailbreak, but I never did it before, and I don't want it -but I HAVE to do it, if I want to USE my phone.
I think it's better to reactivate my HD2 -there is ALL functionable, without any problems. And: it contains much data that i need -and there is NO possibilty to migrate SMS (i.e.) to WP7 -VERY poor performance Microsoft!!!!
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wow where to start. this is probably the most ignorant post I've read on here thus far and with poor grammar at that. my arrive has had wonderful performance since the day I got it and it has improved even further since I installed the mango beta. the live tiles are awesome makes android and iOS seem like nothing but app launchers, the whole concept of apps is overrated and I can do a lot of things without having to even launch an app. and IE9 runs circes around opera. especially the one on WM.
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wow where to start. this is probably the most ignorant post I've read on here thus far and with poor grammar at that. my arrive has had wonderful performance since the day I got it and it has improved even further since I installed the mango beta. the live tiles are awesome makes android and iOS seem like nothing but app launchers, the whole concept of apps is overrated and I can do a lot of things without having to even launch an app. and IE9 runs circes around opera. especially the one on WM.
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Hmmm... It's not the performance that is question. But, it's functionality. Migrating from WM6.5 to WP7 should, at least I thought, have been compatible, eg. SMS, Connection settings (WiFi, Phone...), Contact (I've had to do it the old fashion way, by typing contacts manual / an then I found out about sync with WLive ).
It feels like I have powerful thing (excellent hardware), but it does non better than Nokia 3310. Just raw speed, for basic things.
Hi eric -I'm not a native speaker (english) -but give us some probes from your netherlands, german and french
But as I can see, you're able to read what I wrote, and thats what matter.
But back to topic: What sense is in a phone that is unusable in much functions DIRECTLY. For everyone -not just for people which have the time, the skills und of course the desire to make an jailbreak (which causes lost of guarantee), rebuild the phone several times, have so read several manuals, howtos and search for betas, previews.
I'd tried the Desire Z (just because of the same why I buy the 7 Pro -it's a type & touch) -and send it bach 2 days later to amazon. It's exactly what you wrote: just app-launchers! I hate apple., because of their "we tell you what to do" -and with WP7 it cames to me. I don't wanna do a jailbreak -but I didn't have an alternative (if I want to USE the phone) :-(
Maybee other people have the possibility and time to try the mango beta -and it seems that I MUST do it, or I have to sell the phone (what will make me very sad -a VERY good piece of hardware!!)
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Hi eric -I'm not a native speaker (english) -but give us some probes from your netherlands, german and french
But as I can see, you're able to read what I wrote, and thats what matter.
But back to topic: What sense is in a phone that is unusable in much functions DIRECTLY. For everyone -not just for people which have the time, the skills und of course the desire to make an jailbreak (which causes lost of guarantee), rebuild the phone several times, have so read several manuals, howtos and search for betas, previews.
I'd tried the Desire Z (just because of the same why I buy the 7 Pro -it's a type & touch) -and send it bach 2 days later to amazon. It's exactly what you wrote: just app-launchers! I hate apple., because of their "we tell you what to do" -and with WP7 it cames to me. I don't wanna do a jailbreak -but I didn't have an alternative (if I want to USE the phone) :-(
Maybee other people have the possibility and time to try the mango beta -and it seems that I MUST do it, or I have to sell the phone (what will make me very sad -a VERY good piece of hardware!!)
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odd,i didn't have to do any of that when I got my Arrive. just open the box, enter my live ID and I was good to go. wp7 is not an app launcher as almost everything can be done without even having to go into an app. with the mango beta which is easy to install i can identify a song that's playing, a product for the best price,get directions somewhere (even in malls),find something to do in the area, buy movie tickets,search the web and watch html5 videos in HD quality,check my Facebook,chat on Facebook and check in. and many other things. install the mango beta and u'll feel much better about it.
Hold on. The core of any smartphone are applications. Staring with earliest versions of WM, Symbian, iOS, Android, Droid, WP7, they all the same with a final porpoise, and that is an application/s.
Therefore calling other systems "apps launcher" is contradiction. Because doing anything with a WP7 is being done via apps. Home screen is, just as in any other mobile system, a pile of shortcuts with a weather and the clock. The truth is that some systems are doing it, app launching, better than the others.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
With all of its hardware, as WP7 requires to run, this phone, or any WP7, will in the future be something good.
If you've played with WP7 enough, you'll find that the live tiles really preclude you from needing to actually launch the associated apps unnecessarily. Because of this, the commenter was calling the other Mobile OS versions more of an "app launcher" because, in general, you need to launch the app to interact with it. (Google has widgets, but those widgets aren't quite the same.) With WP7, you can glance-and-go (one of the tenants that MS imparted into the Metro design) and only launch apps when there is a required interaction. It really is a different approach, and one that I think works very well.
Please give some comparison for WP7 and other mobile OS (mOS).
As hard as I try, and I do like to play around with WP7, I just can't find anything that makes WP7 better than other mOS.
Eg. When email or SMS arrive, on WP7s homescreen shows a count of these items, and on the other hand, Symbian do just the same. So, where is the difference?
So far, the only thing that is obviously better are things-apps that have something to do with the internet (Windows Live, Email, Internet Explorer, Youtube) or with the 1GHz processor (apps do work better with stronger processor, so by having stronger processor apps work better and it isn't because of WP7).
you sound like you're determined to be underwhelmed by wp7. yes, when you get an SMS, the homescreen tells you that you have one....that's what phones do. What more is there for a phone to do with an sms?
WP7 is highly innovative from a UI standpoint. What you seem to be interested in, however, is the menu-heavy micromanaging style of old school winmo. If you want to be able to micromanage every last little thing about your phone go to a different platform. WP7 does everything it is purported to do, if you are not getting what you wanted, then you didn't do your homework before you dropped god-knows-how-much on a phone. these days, it's not about which platform is better, it's about preference. It's getting to the point where every platform can do all the really important things really well. so how do you want your phone to look? that's what you're buying.
Don't get me wrong, but what you are saying is what I've been saying. That is, WP7 as any other mOS is not new in functionality but it is different in GUI. Other qualities are not available to be seen, since there are no apps which can show it.
For now, WP7, only offers basic features.
I have been wondering the same thing since the 1 st rumors of windows phone 7 but still a no go. Its ironic ms stripped away so many of the things that made wm only to get beat out by the former clone of themselves....android. I love the form the tp2 & wish they wouldve released an hd2 with a keyboard. They shouldve stripped the name windows,hired a special team that managed themes system wide so that u have eye candy without it being resource heavy & hired a marketing team that would make apple & google have nightmares.
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I have been wondering the same thing since the 1 st rumors of windows phone 7 but still a no go. Its ironic ms stripped away so many of the things that made wm only to get beat out by the former clone of themselves....android. I love the form the tp2 & wish they wouldve released an hd2 with a keyboard. They shouldve stripped the name windows,hired a special team that managed themes system wide so that u have eye candy without it being resource heavy & hired a marketing team that would make apple & google have nightmares.
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that's what they are doing with the mango update that's near release and the beta is already out and I find that im able to do just as much if not more than WM6.5 and android (former TP2 owner and loved it, had an EVO **** for a week and hated it).
Hi,
I followed eric12341's suggestion and have the mango-beta installed (and have buyed a developer account, to make side-loads possible). And some things were better (slow was it not before -hey, it have a 1GHz CPU, it HAVE to be fast ), but there are so many things which waste time. If I want to have a (exact) look of charging, I have to go through some menue-points. As I often in transit by railways, I have to set date several times, and the WM-calendar (and to set the time) is MUCH more effective, as I didnt't have to use the annoying slider-gadgets. Maybe it looks nice, but it waste much time. Before it was just 3 tips, no it's an orgy -the possebility to change the style would be great! And local database for apps -to find the connecting-train while you have no network (and EVERY thing have to be found over network when you want to set start and target of you travel, because of the impossebillity of local databases) is a horror! Before: 10 seconds, now 3 minutes -or longer, as often there is no network in the train. :-(
And unfortunately many very good (sideload)-apps will not longer work after mango. And when I can make a backup from my data, if I want to upgrade memory, or have to change it (because of defectivs, i.e.). And not all of my friend have Zune installed, but they have good music, pdf's or anything else for me. The next thing I was wondering: why I can only set my own ringtons for calling? What'a about SMS, email, and so on?? ^^
Sorry for the bad english -hope it was not to hard to read. :-(
Groby, thanks for the info. I was looking for some info about Mango.
Navigating via online updating is absolutely annoying. It takes for ever to download map, and there are no detailed maps, but only hi-ways and few byways.
I looks like this operating system is way out from it's time, for about good year or so.
If developers could make downgrade to WM 6.x, it would make this phone a dream.