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iphone finger menu scrolling

Basically I wasn't overly impressed when I saw the iphone in terms of what it did, because it doesn't do anything my WM5 doesn't. the only thing I was impressed at was the interface, the total touch screen etc(altho it is missing a qwerty key board which I couldn't live with out). One part of the touch screen interface that I was the most impressed with was the finger dragging, scrolling! But this can be done on WM5 devices because I've already downloaded Sygic's .mobile which allows you to do it through your contacts.
So Basically I'm sure that one of the many clever programmers on here could write a little program that allows you to use finger scrolling where ever a scroll bar is needed? I.e. file emplorer, music menu(windows media player), text message list, photos, etc.
Or if someone knows where I could get such a program from?
Thanks

this would be sweet because we windows fans wouldn't have to convert to the darkside.
just like the early dayds of apple.....microsoft swoops in and reinvents the game. but only thing it aint microsoft doing this.
why buy a new phone when u can take the guts of it and dump it into your own
good job on the programers you guys rock.

Check this video out, the guy has done just that!
http://techdigest.tv/2007/02/watch_the_iphon.html

I've seen that video already, but thanks. it was that and the program .mobile that made me hope that someone on here would be able to do it for the rest of the windows mobile platform! if I was talented enough I'd do it myself but this is way beyond me. i just think it would be a great to be able to navigate menus and list and make life a lot easier.

Can we download it from somewhere?

Download What?

that GUI seen on that video.

the best program to make it look like that is wisbar desktop but it costs! has for the menu scrolling i haven't got a clue thats why i was hoping someone may be able to write a program on here for it

baspooner said:
the best program to make it look like that is wisbar desktop but it costs! has for the menu scrolling i haven't got a clue thats why i was hoping someone may be able to write a program on here for it
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Agree, i used the wisbar advance, but the scrolling gui was amazing!
I am wondering how he did it?

it was, but i don't know how he did it! i know you can down load a program called .mobile and that allows you to scroll through your contact like that, so it clearly can be done! so someone must be able to do it for the rest of the phone?!??!

What is it that can or can't be done guys?
Picsel Browser uses momentum based full screen drag scrolling, amongst other apps. It's not a difficult thing to do. The implementation in the video is particularly nice (if not particularly useful IMHO), but it's not some kind of mystical voodoo. It's just programming.
V

vijay,
I don't think you would be capable of doing this, no way....
(ps: please, please rise to the challenge!)
On a serious note the Universal lacks a scroll wheel which I have always had on my previous PDAs. To be able to have a generic touchscreen based scrolling mechanism would be very useful (ie not just for tracks and contacts, but for everything).

Can anyone post a link to the download of this?

slider lock feature.....
Guys,
According to his website, before it was suspended...
He says he was using
PPL1.20. PPL which can be downloaded for free from http://arianesoft.ca
I downoaded this but have no idea on how to use it to get the same results?
Anyone interested in getting the slider lock portion of that video working?

tommyd75 said:
Guys,
According to his website, before it was suspended...
He says he was using
PPL1.20. PPL which can be downloaded for free from http://arianesoft.ca
I downoaded this but have no idea on how to use it to get the same results?
Anyone interested in getting the slider lock portion of that video working?
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As explained by Vijay this is just programming. If you dont have programming skills, just forget it. If you do then the technical part is not that difficult. The whole point is more about doinga nice design
Anyway let's hope he will make is work public (The scrolling bar is one thing, but the whole setup is actually nice...)

If anyone has this (doubt the guy gave it out before he got shut down) but in case he did... i would like to get my hands on this...

the point of me starting this thread was to see if anyone on here knew where I could get a program that would allow me to scroll all the menus and lists in my WM5 by dragging my finger across the screen, if there wasn't already a program out there then I wondered if someone could write a program for it? as my skills in this area are nowhere near good enough! I think a program like this with look great but more importantly be really useful, as I use my finger to navigate through most of my phone.
if this is just programing, please can someone with the skills do it????
Thanks

the m600-iphone clon demovideo is no longer available at youtube....
the apple tentacles are very lengths...

INTERESTINGLY.. this guy is a Malaysian (Chinese). . and I would have thought such geeky move ought to be from the States.

well i have a spare wizard to try this on if some one can direct me on what software to use. i have some spare time lol

Calling all WM5 or WM6 chefs

Ok, Im working with the mUn edition of WM6. Anyone know how he disabled all but the password setup screen?

Ok i found only one instance pointing to welcome.exe which is supposed to launch this. help me out. what does this registry key mean?
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSWELCOME]
"3"=dword:0
"2"=dword:0
"1"="welcome.exe"
"0"="Welcome"

Yeah', i'd like to help out, as i started to think about cooking My own rom'',
mUn's may be one of better choices since it's quite clean and so on..
But what else was there about "calling chefs?'"
1. clean,
2. well documented(as i pointed out in mobiz edition thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298692 )
3. STABLE(working Most BASIC Functionalities like Wifi, MMS, Sim card phonebook usability)
I found that 98% of battery drain problems i've heard thus far were all caused by some today component, or other app that worked in background, and only when certain setting had been changed did ALL started to be baad.
"all of a sudden"
Keep up a GOOD WORK, set some clear objective what goal/ target do You want to achieve with this rom(speed, stability, minimality, cleaningness, usability>) so people will know what to expect and not to be dissappointed..
I am a little tired of: "my rom is faster than yours" approach..
i'd rather hear: this rom "feels" quicker in response, and is stable(optionally rock solid )
Hope that this "clean fixed" rom will have soon "a definitive guide" with recommended installs(freeware for ex.) to have as a start clean, stable rom, and greatest funcionality(additionall free soft installable by user),
Just so our Wizards will Stop being "toys" and will become TOOLS with a "LOT" extra(not just little extra).. as i read the other day of "one of us" giving it to his 14 year old daughter(nothing against young people, or girls), just..
i want to use a solid TOOL, even if I will goof off with it, and use it like 14 year old.
Cheers to ALL out ther Working, so WE CAN Enjoy our micro computers.
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Wiza200
MiniSD 2GB/1GB
Primary use: Mp3 Player (22hours hours playback TCPMP on WM5 Molskis')
Radio Version: 02.61.11
Version;Protocol Version:ExtROM Version:
WM6 by: mUn, faria V5.0, PDAMobiz V.5, MB, MTA
Possibly soon switching back to WM5(molski's)
..Be quiet, and the world will start singing

lolek5 said:
Yeah', i'd like to help out, as i started to think about cooking My own rom'',
mUn's may be one of better choices since it's quite clean and so on..
But what else was there about "calling chefs?'"
1. clean,
2. well documented(as i pointed out in mobiz edition thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298692 )
3. STABLE(working Most BASIC Functionalities like Wifi, MMS, Sim card phonebook usability)
I found that 98% of battery drain problems i've heard thus far were all caused by some today component, or other app that worked in background, and only when certain setting had been changed did ALL started to be baad.
"all of a sudden"
Keep up a GOOD WORK, set some clear objective what goal/ target do You want to achieve with this rom(speed, stability, minimality, cleaningness, usability>) so people will know what to expect and not to be dissappointed..
I am a little tired of: "my rom is faster than yours" approach..
i'd rather hear: this rom "feels" quicker in response, and is stable(optionally rock solid )
Hope that this "clean fixed" rom will have soon "a definitive guide" with recommended installs(freeware for ex.) to have as a start clean, stable rom, and greatest funcionality(additionall free soft installable by user),
Just so our Wizards will Stop being "toys" and will become TOOLS with a "LOT" extra(not just little extra).. as i read the other day of "one of us" giving it to his 14 year old daughter(nothing against young people, or girls), just..
i want to use a solid TOOL, even if I will goof off with it, and use it like 14 year old.
Cheers to ALL out ther Working, so WE CAN Enjoy our micro computers.
__________________
Orange
Wiza200
MiniSD 2GB/1GB
Primary use: Mp3 Player (22hours hours playback TCPMP on WM5 Molskis')
Radio Version: 02.61.11
Version;Protocol Version:ExtROM Version:
WM6 by: mUn, faria V5.0, PDAMobiz V.5, MB, MTA
Possibly soon switching back to WM5(molski's)
..Be quiet, and the world will start singing
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Here is what I am trying to accomplish, I want to make the mUn's edition as stripped as possible keeping it together but giving a solid building ground for other chefs and also a good clean playground for users who just want a ROM without the mess. Once I accomplish 2 or 3 more things the Ultimate Fixed mUns version will be released. First I have got to get this welcome thing fixed. Until then, Im not even working on anything else for the ROM

Wow.. : )
That's a VERY GOOD approach there..
A step by step.
That's how some things CAN Get done : )
Thanks Man : )
I Think We all can use that : )
I'd like to start some kind of central repository/ interactive table with a Comparison of diffrent roms :futures, prog version, posssible issues: strong points, weak points.
There had already been so many threads like: best freeware soft for wizard, and since there are unorganized comments all over thread finding usefull, NOT Doubled application names, links, descriptions, becomes very hard if not impossible.
Some kind of ranking of apps ?
that may be more to xda-dev guys/ site owner/administrator if it could be incorporated into structures of BB
Possibly it could look like auto rom cooker, that i've seen for some older pda..
maybe it could be crossreferenced for different platforms, like alpine, wizard, himalaya, but centrally connected to one database so more data will be gathered and make it more universal: sometimes guys from another forum know of some software, that other users of WM5/6 could find usefull, but do not have time to go to every of 5 000 threads looking for a(good, or any in that case) free MMS Backup utility !?
.. found a couple of utils. for sms backup, saying they will back up email, sms, and mms.. well, they do only sms,
and considering that i have flashed my wizadr about 15 times during last week.., trying to use wizard as primary phone and keep track of contacts, is impossible without efficient backup system ..
Yet so many soft is being installed without EVEr knowing what for, and or how to use it and are already on the rom cooked.
Some are being used everyday during normal operations and which use and "fixed problems credit"are being given to a "new WM system"
I think it should be a cross(bow)referenced, or interweaved: forum and WIKI so forum will become more organized and more usefull to the community. And WIKI part will give ability to add more descriptions, and make building a database of app references, usage, and rating without making it all unclear and timewaste for scrolling through .. well an "off topic" comments , opinions still could be added under interactive portion of wiki..for all who like to get and give opinions(like youtube's sectioned view: 1.video,2.related videos, 3 comments, 4 unrelated latest videos.
: 1.File, app, or rom reference portion, 2.related threads/topics, comparisons, 3. forum comments thread 4. unrelated threads, comments, apps, comparisons/ news.
with system like this we all could save some serious time and not get overloaded by unnecessary info.
/time to get some rest
Cheers!

lolek5 said:
Wow.. : )
That's a VERY GOOD approach there..
A step by step.
That's how some things CAN Get done : )
Thanks Man : )
I Think We all can use that : )
I'd like to start some kind of central repository/ interactive table with a Comparison of diffrent roms :futures, prog version, posssible issues: strong points, weak points.
There had already been so many threads like: best freeware soft for wizard, and since there are unorganized comments all over thread finding usefull, NOT Doubled application names, links, descriptions, becomes very hard if not impossible.
Some kind of ranking of apps ?
that may be more to xda-dev guys/ site owner/administrator if it could be incorporated into structures of BB
Possibly it could look like auto rom cooker, that i've seen for some older pda..
maybe it could be crossreferenced for different platforms, like alpine, wizard, himalaya, but centrally connected to one database so more data will be gathered and make it more universal: sometimes guys from another forum know of some software, that other users of WM5/6 could find usefull, but do not have time to go to every of 5 000 threads looking for a(good, or any in that case) free MMS Backup utility !?
.. found a couple of utils. for sms backup, saying they will back up email, sms, and mms.. well, they do only sms,
and considering that i have flashed my wizadr about 15 times during last week.., trying to use wizard as primary phone and keep track of contacts, is impossible without efficient backup system ..
Yet so many soft is being installed without EVEr knowing what for, and or how to use it and are already on the rom cooked.
Some are being used everyday during normal operations and which use and "fixed problems credit"are being given to a "new WM system"
I think it should be a cross(bow)referenced, or interweaved: forum and WIKI so forum will become more organized and more usefull to the community. And WIKI part will give ability to add more descriptions, and make building a database of app references, usage, and rating without making it all unclear and timewaste for scrolling through .. well an "off topic" comments , opinions still could be added under interactive portion of wiki..for all who like to get and give opinions(like youtube's sectioned view: 1.video,2.related videos, 3 comments, 4 unrelated latest videos.
: 1.File, app, or rom reference portion, 2.related threads/topics, comparisons, 3. forum comments thread 4. unrelated threads, comments, apps, comparisons/ news.
with system like this we all could save some serious time and not get overloaded by unnecessary info.
/time to get some rest
Cheers!
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How about we call it xdawiz? I already own the domain and have a forum up. Ill let you put it together and make you a super moderator if you want. I am working with my own cooked mess for rom building and i have it down to 2 batch files, baring the fact you dont screw up. then there are a couple more if you do. Been trying to write an app but got too caught up in the muns release.
As it sits, i cant really get involved in another project until i get my welcome issue fixed.

nottoosmart said:
Ok, Im working with the mUn edition of WM6. Anyone know how he disabled all but the password setup screen?
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I think it's a good idea to at least keep the screen alignment wizard in after a hardreset because I heard the the screen would be useless otherwise.

NTS, are you trying to re-enable it?
In terms of clean, it would be nice to have the original keyboard back as well as no other themes. THAT is a clean ROM. If all of the registry fixes are in there, then we all have something to work with.
JMHO.

jwzg said:
NTS, are you trying to re-enable it?
In terms of clean, it would be nice to have the original keyboard back as well as no other themes. THAT is a clean ROM. If all of the registry fixes are in there, then we all have something to work with.
JMHO.
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Keyboard is nice even if it's not original. It's still clean though.
@NotTooSmart: check your PM, I found something I might be useful to solve this.

I strongly believe that the ROM should be as close as possible to that which should have been released by M$. I do think the keyboard ought to be an option (a separate cab file), but in order to have a TRULY vanilla ROM, that and other extras cannot be included. If you include the keyboard, then it's just a matter of time before everything else ends up finding it's way in along with it.
JMHO

nottoosmart said:
How about we call it xdawiz? I already own the domain and have a forum up. Ill let you put it together and make you a super moderator if you want. I am working with my own cooked mess for rom building and i have it down to 2 batch files, baring the fact you dont screw up. then there are a couple more if you do. Been trying to write an app but got too caught up in the muns release.
As it sits, i cant really get involved in another project until i get my welcome issue fixed.
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I hear ya..
Well, doing that would be something really good, but i would like to do this project in a most usefull way: of greatest benefit for all, and i am not sure if setting up a separate web page is a good idea, or maybe integration into xda-developers could do it../
would it be possible to set it up in a way, so that other site could use databases /to display INSIDE of forum structure..
If so, than we could have some serious interest comming from other good sites that will be interested in an UNIFIED approach to reviewing and inputting evaluated data.
As far as Keyboard..the skin.. yes it is cool, but for some reason problem arose with being unable to use phone pad: as it is not switching to it: staying at "cool skin"..
maybe some file is missing for that functionalty to be enabled..?

lolek5 said:
I hear ya..
Well, doing that would be something really good, but i would like to do this project in a most usefull way: of greatest benefit for all, and i am not sure if setting up a separate web page is a good idea, or maybe integration into xda-developers could do it../
would it be possible to set it up in a way, so that other site could use databases /to display INSIDE of forum structure..
If so, than we could have some serious interest comming from other good sites that will be interested in an UNIFIED approach to reviewing and inputting evaluated data.
As far as Keyboard..the skin.. yes it is cool, but for some reason problem arose with being unable to use phone pad: as it is not switching to it: staying at "cool skin"..
maybe some file is missing for that functionalty to be enabled..?
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I have fixed the phone pad issue. That was easy. I have tested and it is working on my phone right now. The only issue I have with making this a truly vanilla rom is, I didnt do any of the work to the base os. I can remove the Aero and any other tag marks set in by mun, but this will still be his rom, but instead of calling it repacked, we gonna call it stripped. LOL. As for the keypad, that is easy to change, but again, then i am taking things out that make this muns rom. Unless I get his ok, I cant do that.

nottoosmart said:
How about we call it xdawiz? I already own the domain and have a forum up. Ill let you put it together and make you a super moderator if you want. I am working with my own cooked mess for rom building and i have it down to 2 batch files, baring the fact you dont screw up. then there are a couple more if you do. Been trying to write an app but got too caught up in the muns release.
As it sits, i cant really get involved in another project until i get my welcome issue fixed.
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nice plug for the other forum just registered hope it takes off

easymob said:
nice plug for the other forum just registered hope it takes off
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Not really a plug, but if its already being paid for might as well use it. I was, up till the mun rom, working ona a gui applications that I was going to call XDAWiz for build roms. LOL. These things are in my head before they hit paper. As for now, i need to fix the damn welcome screen. Someone took my thread in a diffrent direction. LOL.

are you trying to make so it skips some of the screens when you first flash it
if so is that much of chore to to tap a few more extra taps when flashing a rom

easymob said:
are you trying to make so it skips some of the screens when you first flash it
if so is that much of chore to to tap a few more extra taps when flashing a rom
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No, lol. I want to make it so you have to go through the whole setup rather than only doing the alignment and password. I want the ability to setup the email, timezone, date, all of it.

i know you prob done this ages ago but the orwell version has this have you looked at that version yet

is it a modifed welcome.exe? I've never looked into it much, but if i run welcome.exe on Faria's rom all i get is screen alignment not the initial setup.

notyourdaddy said:
is it a modifed welcome.exe? I've never looked into it much, but if i run welcome.exe on Faria's rom all i get is screen alignment not the initial setup.
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that is what im trying to fix

which welcome.exe does the mun rom have? I can pull it off of another rom if you like. Anything else you need help with for your rom?

The Official WM6 Thread

Ok guys, so WM6 on Tornado exists (currently running on my device as we speak). But there are quite a few things we need to sort out before it can be released 'En Masse' Before this time I will ignore ALL PMs asking for the ROM.
There is a WM6 comments/suggestion/speculation thread HERE. Feel free to put in requests for embedded apps etc, but please realise we won't be able to put in EVERYTHING. So when the ROM is at a more completed stage we will draw up a shortlist for the apps etc to be embedded and let you vote it out
Current Issues:
Still has identifying build numbers etc to my source
Doesn't sync at all with a PC but will sync over exchange
It says WM5 with MSFP when its really WM6 (OS 5.2.xxx)
No Camera
No MMS
Issues fixed:
Wifi not accessable - new comm manager
No Office (fixed with a cab)
No t9 - updated to xT9 with 14 languages (fixed with a cab)
WLM is still beta and so needs removing and then updating (fixed with WLM RTM cab)
Things we need from a Tornado WM5 ROM
Camera.exe with all the mui extensions
Lets keep this thread clean, ok? I don't want sh!t loads of n00bs saying "where can I download ROM?". So, before you ask, here's my answer. YOU CAN'T DOWNLOAD IT UNTIL ITS FINISHED!!!!
If a mod could remove such posts i'd be forever grateful
Please only post if you have information regarding how to fix the issues I've outlined above.
Phil

So... i am Alex from ronswens forum. i promise to fix that if you give me the rom and you can contact me via ICQ .. we need at least 3 tests - first, we upgrade xip, then new os build and then fix the camera...

T9 now fixed, office added, WLM fixed
Phil

@sp3dev, unfortunatley i dont have ICQ, do you have an MSN email address?
Phil

isnt there someone already working on this?
guy called duke_stiks
anyway good luck with the developing and fixing of this.

sandman_06 said:
isnt there someone already working on this?
guy called duke_stiks
anyway good luck with the developing and fixing of this.
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I think this is the sort of n00b-ish comment jm012a9749's trying to avoid in this thread.
I mean, honestly, do you think he believes he's the only one to have attained a tornado version? Come on...
Look, this guy is aware of Duke's efforts, heck we all are, but the more people who get involved, the more efficiently we can get a polished product. There's no guarantee that Duke nor jm012a9749 will be able to do anything, so why should any of us sit back and not get involved? Besides, Duke himself has mentioned that he needs help since he's not an experienced Rom cooker.
Sorry for the rant here, but this sort of attitude really bothers me. Saying "oh, someone's already doing that, sit back and don't waste your time" is why certain projects never see the light of day...
Please only post helpful information or questions!

you can fix activesync by replacing the usbfn.dll file.

sp3dev said:
So... i am Alex from ronswens forum. i promise to fix that if you give me the rom and you can contact me via ICQ - 336030424.. we need at least 3 tests - first, we upgrade xip, then new os build and then fix the camera...
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Alex would you please tell me the new address of ronswens forum?

as usual, ronswens.jconserv.net. as for active sync, i remember those early builds missed actsync.dll.. but better give me the rom, i will use build 17xxx from excalibur and drivers, camera, t9 etc from wm5

Dishe said:
I think this is the sort of n00b-ish comment jm012a9749's trying to avoid in this thread.
I mean, honestly, do you think he believes he's the only one to have attained a tornado version? Come on...
Look, this guy is aware of Duke's efforts, heck we all are, but the more people who get involved, the more efficiently we can get a polished product. There's no guarantee that Duke nor jm012a9749 will be able to do anything, so why should any of us sit back and not get involved? Besides, Duke himself has mentioned that he needs help since he's not an experienced Rom cooker.
Sorry for the rant here, but this sort of attitude really bothers me. Saying "oh, someone's already doing that, sit back and don't waste your time" is why certain projects never see the light of day...
Please only post helpful information or questions!
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Exactly, since day 1 I've been working with duke_stix to help get a working version of crossbow. However now that I've made some progress and actually HAVE a device myself to test on, I felt it was nessary to start a new thread dedicated to it rather than the old dump rom thread
@faria, will try this later, thanks for the advice
Phil

More info on the missing USB sync... under connections, 'USB isnt listed.
Idea's?
Phil

Camera Software
Hi, I found this camera software. Its the one they using in WM6 i think. (Its kinda like the one on my Vox) Im using it on my tronado, and it works with some cert fixes.
Hope this helps

will you be tweaking the rom for speed/performace on the tornado?

sandman_06 said:
will you be tweaking the rom for speed/performace on the tornado?
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seriously sandman,you are not helping!!! am sorry for ranting but like what the thread starter said NO NOOB posting!!! sheesh man!!! they are not "tweaking for performance" for crying out loud!!! they are cooking a wm6 rom!!!

How about we get the ROM fully functional BEFORE we start tweaking it
Phil

samyboy said:
Hi, I found this camera software. Its the one they using in WM6 i think. (Its kinda like the one on my Vox) Im using it on my tronado, and it works with some cert fixes.
Hope this helps
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Thanks alot for that samyboy
Looks like were getting there with regards to functionality
Also does anybody have the Arcsoft MMS client? I've been searching for a while now but no dice. Also could do with the default windows task manager as well.
Phil

Stuff
Maybe you can find some useful stuff here:
http://218.93.115.138/d900/

You can have the WIFI option appear on its current Comm Manager thru Registry.. i have tried it and it worked.. but anyway, glad the new Comm Manager worked also..

The new comm manager also has flight mode, beam and IP Phone buttons on it
Phil

I don't know if we have the same build or version jm012a9749 but the following bugs are present on mine..
"BETA" text on the homescreen
FIX:
HKLM - Software - Miscrosoft - Shell
DELETE - "DeviceBETA" key
You can't open the Sound in Settings (Settings - Sounds)
Culprit could be the file soundsgsm.cpl.xml on /windows/ directory
I just got my new Tornado again awhile ago, and hoping that i could help this team in any way..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=310380

SMS Vulnerability impacting WM devices?

I read from this article:http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/31/apple-to-release-fix-for-iphone-sms-vulnerability-on-saturday/
It says the vulnerability impacts our WM phone as well. Anyone has checked that and if fix is available? Tried using Google to search our beloved forum but didn't pop up anything yet ..

I read about this too and if it can be patched that quickly on Android then I'd hope it should also be a quick patch on WinMo, especially as the SMS functionality is implemented in pretty much the same way apparently.
Plus XDA has people who are working with Android so maybe they can share what changes Google have made?

I am fairly surprised this hasn't been picked up by the technical bods here as it is quite a major vulnerability and Apple and Google have patched their OS's so WinMo is trailing behind... unless someone knows of a patch thats already been done?

I'm going to PM some mods I know ..

Any response from them yet?

Our good Dave is going to check with some resident expert.. and hopefully some lights to be shed.
From the info I gathered, it actually result in DOS for iPhone and Android, but no news/confirmation on WM yet. So we don't know. However, given the method explored by the author, it's likely at minimum resulting the same (DOS, phone hung, etc.). I think, for phone user, this is critical, as you can't spend your day checking the phone always just to make sure it's still connecting to network/operators.

From what I read the vulnerability could allow for remote code execution including reading your phone's storage and activating cameras and gps. So someone could write an app that send this information back via the data connection and that person could be watched and tracked without knowing that there were compromised.
This is obviously worst case scenario but I for one would sit on the paranoia side of the fence and get it plugged. If we can.

From what I got and discussion, it's mostly DOS.
However, IMO, it still scary. You can't be contacted nor SMS-ed without you realizing until you need to initiate call/ connection.
For someone most of the time on receiving side (doctors, etc) it's really a danger. I do hope our resident expert can find out something, as I don't think MS will be doing it.

You may want to read this article where they interview one of the guys that found the vuln...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hacking-iphone-security,2384.html
(Linked from Slashdot -
Specifically this bit on page 4...
Charlie: Collin's framework also works on Android and WinMobile. We found some denial of service bugs in Android (which we reported and are fixed) and a pretty bad bug in the way HTC WinMobile phones handle SMS messages containing the format specifier %n. That's a fun one because you don't need any special tools to send the malicious message, just use your phone to text your buddy with %n and their TouchFlo (application manager) will crash and won't come back up.

Starfury said:
Specifically this bit on page 4...
Charlie: Collin's framework also works on Android and WinMobile. We found some denial of service bugs in Android (which we reported and are fixed) and a pretty bad bug in the way HTC WinMobile phones handle SMS messages containing the format specifier %n. That's a fun one because you don't need any special tools to send the malicious message, just use your phone to text your buddy with %n and their TouchFlo (application manager) will crash and won't come back up.
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Well, tested the %n story, didn't crash anything on my Topaz WM 6.5 manila 2.5
So regarding manila 2.5 it's: fud
EqX

the-equinoxe said:
Well, tested the %n story, didn't crash anything on my Topaz WM 6.5 manila 2.5
So regarding manila 2.5 it's: fud
EqX
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I believe the current HTC handsets come with WM6.1 now as standard, either HTC or Operator flavoured. As this is a forum for all HTC devices on WM5.0/6.0/6.1/6.5 can we have some testing done on stock ROM's on stock devices please?

I'm going to send a %n text to my buddy's phone and see.
At least now the thread is getting some attention. My concern is for people (like me) that rely more on receiving call/SMS than making call/sending SMS. A crashed network connection will result in no phone at all.

How'd the testing go and any movement on patching?

Just sent myself a %n message but nothing happened. On TPC v10.9 on M2D (Mega's M2D)
My friend is now using custom ROM .. so no try there. I don't have OEM that has M2D ..

What about just trying it on a bog standard WM6.1 OEM ROM from an operator.

Can do .. later perhaps when I'm changing ROM again. I thought it only crashes M2D? No OEM for Kaiser has M2D ..

Reviving this thread because iPhone is vulnerable. Not sure if IE also on our Kaiser? Opera?
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=14663

HTC Messaging and Pocket CM conflicts

OK I’m hoping I’m in the right forum for this…
For a long time now I’ve been using PocketCM for my SMS and contact information. This is a great little program which fulfils all my needs wonderfully but recently I’m starting to have one big issue. The newer ROMS now coming out are starting to use HTC’s messaging system and this does not sit very well with PocketCM. Yes, you can open the program and browse contacts ok, but once you try and open any SMS it crashes out. Now I have reported this on the author’s web site a few times but he has said that as he has no device with these ROMS loaded on he can’t reproduce the issue – which is fair enough.
My question though, and bear in mind I’m not a programmer but can fathom things out if given enough info, is how can I help him? Yes, I can load one of the new ROMS onto my device (which I do a lot) but is there some way I can run some sort of diagnostics that will help him track the issue down??
My fear is that over time with more and more new devices coming out that use this new messaging system then that this great program will simply not work any more. The Leo for instance has this problem already and it is one reason I’m not upgrading at the moment.
Any assistance would be appreciated!!