Veterans of XDA and Samsung mobiles, please help!
I got myself a Note 20 Ultra 5G today! The model number is shown as SM-986U/DS. I searched and one site showed it's the Exynos model, whereas CPU-Z showed that it's the Snapdragon one!
Did I just buy a fake one? Please help me to find id it is an original one! The Store I bought this from, told me that it came from US but while the phone started, it did not show any US Carrier logo (like T-Mobile, Verizone etc.)
I am attaching the screenshots of About Phone page, please advise me if I need to post any other pictures for clarification! I suppose the IMEI is not necessary, right?
Please help and thanks in advance!!!
that model is for snapdragon variant, to check if device is fake or not plug it into pc and open smart switch, this will read the device info, if it does is real if not, must be fake
Thank you!!
Please give me some time to check it and then reply!
Thanks again!
Hi!
I got these when I connected the mobile with my PC by Smart Switch....
So, I suppose it is ok?
Please have a look....
EdwardSawhands said:
Hi!
I got these when I connected the mobile with my PC by Smart Switch....
So, I suppose it is ok?
Please have a look....
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all good
Thank you!!!
@EdwardSawhands
As mentioned by @tutibreaker, it's indeed a genuine US Snapdragon variant of the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 5G. However, there are some points you might need to consider.
To be precise, it's a carrier model meant for Verizon, which has probably been SIM-unlocked for usage under other carriers. As you can see, the device is running on Android 12-based One UI 4.1. Without a Verizon SIM, you can't get OTA updates on it. As a result, it would be better for you to cross-flash a carrier-unlocked (i.e. SM-N986U1) firmware manually. That way, not only you can experience One UI 5 with Android 13 right now, you can also get rid of the underlying Verizon bloat and enjoy official OTA updates without messing with manual flashing jobs.
Well, thanks for pointing that out! I was really thinking why it was on Android 12 as I heard that 20 Ultra hot Android 13 and also there was no update showing...
I will take some time and read around the forum to get the cross flashing process right!
One more thing, there are actually no Verizone Bloats on the mobile. At least none thay I've found out yet. May be the guy who sim unlocked it, uninstalled all that. Anyway, I'll cross flash it once I figure out the process. Thanks again.
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hi guys new to the forum ..im thinking of getting the note 12.2 and need to get an answer fairly quick as I need it soon..ive got the choice between the lte snapdragon and exynos..my main use of the tablet is sketching and painting..artrage has just been released for android so im fairly happy ..my partner has a note 3 neo and tried artrage and it wasn't bad ,but it had lag a lot of lag...out of the snap and exynos which would be better for my kind of use...if I go for wifi I can imagine easier to root than the lte....any help really appreciated
Snapdragon is more powerful, that's a given fact. The Exynos (p900) and the AT&T LTE (Only the AT&T, not the rest) versions also have serious blackscreen, screenflickering, reboot and bluescreen issues.
I never new about so many problems..so what version would you say to get ..im unsure what to do now..
I made the same consideration when I got mine. Given all the problems, and the fact that I needed a powerful tablet for my uses, I went with a P905 (the international LTE version) because it's more powerful and more stable.
If you can spare the extra cash, the LTE edition (Provided it's not the AT&T one) is the best option.
thx for the info..so p905 ill look for ..do the lte versions get the latest updates like the wifi ones..thats what Im worried about and also is it true they cant be rooted
tray271 said:
thx for the info..so p905 ill look for ..do the lte versions get the latest updates like the wifi ones..thats what Im worried about and also is it true they cant be rooted
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Latest update for the P905 is from November.
Towelroot works properly on everything but the newest firmware out of the box. To root the newest you may need to temporarily load an older image of the kernel, but some also report success straight away. Or, if you don't care about the KNOX counter, you can use CF Autoroot.
Hey, I came here to get some help about some questions I have.
I'm from Mexico and im bout to buy a S7 SM-G930T apparently from T-Mobile (where I live T-Mobile doesnt exist obvios..). Anyway can you guys solve this questions I have?
1.- Is this model of this company has the bootloader locked? Cause I want to be able to install custom roms and root without any problem. If not, Can i unlocked it?
2.- Can you remove the bloatware? You know, those extra applications added by the company
3.- This model has Snapdragon instead of Exynox. How about general performance, games, apps, general system with android 7.0?
4.- What about the camera? I have a S6 with 16 megapixels and the S7 has 12 megapixels
I'd love to get answers to this questions, thank you. Also id like to hear you opinion about this phone, is it worth it? or do you have issues with?
ManuEZ said:
Hey, I came here to get some help about some questions I have.
I'm from Mexico and im bout to buy a S7 SM-G930T apparently from T-Mobile (where I live T-Mobile doesnt exist obvios..). Anyway can you guys solve this questions I have?
1.- Is this model of this company has the bootloader locked? Cause I want to be able to install custom roms and root without any problem. If not, Can i unlocked it?
2.- Can you remove the bloatware? You know, those extra applications added by the company
3.- This model has Snapdragon instead of Exynox. How about general performance, games, apps, general system with android 7.0?
4.- What about the camera? I have a S6 with 16 megapixels and the S7 has 12 megapixels
I'd love to get answers to this questions, thank you. Also id like to hear you opinion about this phone, is it worth it? or do you have issues with?
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1.all us model are lock and can't be unlocked as of 05/20/2017
2.you can remove most
3.well phone runs better becuz it has a snapdragon 821 with 4gb of ram
4.s7 picks up more color and **** so it looks allot better you can hardly see a difference
TH3B0SS said:
1.all us model are lock and can't be unlocked as of 05/20/2017
2.you can remove most
3.well phone runs better becuz it has a snapdragon 821 with 4gb of ram
4.s7 picks up more color and **** so it looks allot better you can hardly see a difference
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Thank you for answer my questions., I appreciate it
Help required for a newby:
I bought a Galaxy SM G9500 (Snapdragon) in Thailand and it's not compatible with Aussie apps or app store. (Even Samsung switch)
Is there a standard Aussie ROM out there??
I've never rooted a phone before so am a bit nervous as you can imagine!!
steveawest said:
Help required for a newby:
I bought a Galaxy SM G9500 (Snapdragon) in Thailand and it's not compatible with Aussie apps or app store. (Even Samsung switch)
Is there a standard Aussie ROM out there??
I've never rooted a phone before so am a bit nervous as you can imagine!!
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Not many roms available for the snapdragin variant.
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Not many roms available for the snapdragin variant.
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I did find this XDA post 'TWRP is Now Available for the Snapdragon Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+'
Any idea if this is what I'm looking for?
steveawest said:
I did find this XDA post 'TWRP is Now Available for the Snapdragon Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+'
Any idea if this is what I'm looking for?
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Okay il just give you the important details, the snapdragon variant, which you have has a locked boot loader which means you are very limited on what you can do, twrp will not work, don't even try it, you will mess your phone up.
Root is available but there are bugs, such the phone not charging beyond 80%.
Because of those above things, rom development for the snapdragon variant is almost non existent, and a lot of that is down to having a snapdragon version.
I'm also a bit surprised there are next to no development activity (ROMs) for the Snapdragon variant. It seems like Exynos is getting all the love.
I was ' ' this close to pulling the trigger on a G9500 (or even N9500) but have now noticed there is just about no community support for these. :crying:
Worth noting the Exynos 8895 doesn't have a NPU whereas the Snapdragon does (Hexagon DSP). Something becoming much more important as onboard AI takes a larger role.
List of device variants
In other news: It's also a bit odd that the S8 and S8+ landing pages have incorrect/incomplete device descriptions.
Yes, it's frustrating that poor old Snapdragon is not getting the same attention!
Judging by your your Modelnumber you should have the Chinese Version with unlocked bootloader. So it seems that you can flash different Chinese and Hong Kong Firmwares, some of them apparently having the Playstore. It sounds pretty complicated and is a lot to read: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/samsung-galaxy-s8--s8-cross-device-development/recovery-twrp-galaxy-s8-s8-snapdragon-t3636718
Good luck :good:
Marvinho+ said:
Judging by your your Modelnumber you should have the Chinese Version with unlocked bootloader. So it seems that you can flash different Chinese and Hong Kong Firmwares, some of them apparently having the Playstore. It sounds pretty complicated and is a lot to read: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/samsung-galaxy-s8--s8-cross-device-development/recovery-twrp-galaxy-s8-s8-snapdragon-t3636718
Good luck :good:
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Wow, thank you I'll check it out.
Hi, I am just not getting it. Spent money on two phones to see if I can unlock and root them, and it is not my forte! Don't even know where to start because there is just too much information out there when I search online.
Is there anywhere I can just buy a rooted device, or pay someone to do it. Since every search on the Internet leads back to this site I thought I should ask it here. If I am in wrong section please let me know.
Thank you
As you want to root your phone, I'm assuming you know how a phone works and how to differentiate models and variants!
You can't buy an already rooted phone, as none come with it. If you want a phone that is easy to root but still good for a daily driver, you have to know the following criteria:
- Very popular brand (Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo)
- Has to have a Snapdragon processor (mediatek phones are harder to root)
- The specific device should be popular on XDA (examples include Redmi Note 8 Pro, Poco X3 Pro, most samsung S devices that have Snapdragon processors)
- Samsung S (s22, s20, s8, etc) only have Snapdragon CPUs in countries like the USA and I think China
google pixel or oneplus are great
MirageSteezyBoi said:
google pixel or oneplus are great
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yeah, but if you buy a oneplus don't get anything above the 8 lineup as they just get worse from there
and if you get a pixel 6 series i can't guarantee anything about that tensor chip being even bootloader unlockable
burned4l said:
Hi, I am just not getting it. Spent money on two phones to see if I can unlock and root them, and it is not my forte! Don't even know where to start because there is just too much information out there when I search online.
Is there anywhere I can just buy a rooted device, or pay someone to do it. Since every search on the Internet leads back to this site I thought I should ask it here. If I am in wrong section please let me know.
Thank you
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Search for "rooted android phone" on Ebay. Do your research and make sure you know what your are buying, though. Also check the vendor ratings of the seller.
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Search for "rooted android phone" on Ebay. Do your research and make sure you know what your are buying, though. Also check the vendor ratings of the seller.
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recipy for DISASTER. don't buy a pre rooted phone, who knows what keyloggers and spyware can be put alongside that root? i wouldn't risk it at all, in fact i wouldn't buy any daily driver thing from ebay outside of like a phone case
Thank you for the replies. I will keep reading and researching. I bought a Motorola G Stylus (2021) just now, and gave up on the Samsung s10e. So far I have been able to get adb and fastboot working. Reading on XDA to figure the rest out.
Very popular brands (Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, Huawei, etc) tend to lock down their devices entirely. one can't just unlock bootloader from fastboot. beware of random guides, they often outdated or too broad.
before buying a device
- get confirmation that bootloader actually is unlockable (with regards to android version/carrier/branding etc)
- check community development is active (TWRP available? custom ROMs?)
you can do so by reading the proper section to device model on xda-developers
(if you can't find it, don't buy it)
Samsung Galaxy S10
Samsung's flagship for 2019, the Galaxy S10, is a 6.1" device, with a curved edge display, and a resolution of 1440x3040. It's powered by either the Exynos 9820 or Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 chipset, which is paired with 8GB of RAM and either 128GB or 512GB of storage. The main camera is comprised...
forum.xda-developers.com
Moto G Stylus (2021)
The Moto G Stylus is a 6.8" phone with a 1080x2400p resolution display. The Qualcomm SDM678 Snapdragon 678 chipset is paired with 4GB of RAM and 128GB of storage. The main camera is 48+8+2+2MP and the selfie camera is 16MP. The battery has a 4000mAh capacity.
forum.xda-developers.com
aIecxs said:
Very popular brands (Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, Huawei, etc) tend to lock down their devices entirely. one can't just unlock bootloader from fastboot. beware of random guides, they often outdated or too broad.
before buying a device
- get confirmation that bootloader actually is unlockable (with regards to android version/carrier/branding etc)
- check community development is active (TWRP available? custom ROMs?)
you can do so by reading the proper section to device model on xda-developers
(if you can't find it, don't buy it)
Samsung Galaxy S10
Samsung's flagship for 2019, the Galaxy S10, is a 6.1" device, with a curved edge display, and a resolution of 1440x3040. It's powered by either the Exynos 9820 or Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 chipset, which is paired with 8GB of RAM and either 128GB or 512GB of storage. The main camera is comprised...
forum.xda-developers.com
Moto G Stylus (2021)
The Moto G Stylus is a 6.8" phone with a 1080x2400p resolution display. The Qualcomm SDM678 Snapdragon 678 chipset is paired with 4GB of RAM and 128GB of storage. The main camera is 48+8+2+2MP and the selfie camera is 16MP. The battery has a 4000mAh capacity.
forum.xda-developers.com
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about every phone is on xda, just that many don't have populated Roms and Kernels sections (ie: huaweis) so make sure it has 7-10.000 messages at least if you want a really good starting point
Nobody should buy an already rooted phone.
You should ever re-flash the full stock, format data and then, re-root the phone by YOURSELF.
151kmh said:
about every phone is on xda, just that many don't have populated Roms and Kernels sections (ie: huaweis) so make sure it has 7-10.000 messages at least if you want a really good starting point
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Hi, do you have any specific model you can suggest? Considering the following:
I want to buy an android that I can root for sure, no matter how old it is as long as it runs Android 6 at least, I need it to be as cheap as possible, and I want to buy it in USA, compatible with T-Mobile carrier which is the one I use
I bought this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B3F9BRF9 and it was compatible with TMobile but there's no TWRP or info on how to root it, so I'm seeking for some old phone that actually works and is rooteable. I want to run some experiments but I need root access.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: I found several Samsung S7 on Ebay that could work, do you think it's a good match for rooting?
burned4l said:
Hi, I am just not getting it. Spent money on two phones to see if I can unlock and root them, and it is not my forte! Don't even know where to start because there is just too much information out there when I search online.
Is there anywhere I can just buy a rooted device, or pay someone to do it. Since every search on the Internet leads back to this site I thought I should ask it here. If I am in wrong section please let me know.
Thank you
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Most easy to root phone ar
realme, samsung, oneplus
Buy one of this and follow the tutorial
From youtube make sure android version are matched with the tutorial
samsung what? lol read post #8
aIecxs said:
samsung what? lol read post #8
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there is a method for samsung update androids works on 9|10|11|12|13
incase u dont know
samsujjamanrifat said:
there is a method for samsung update androids works on 9|10|11|12|13
incase u dont know
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Do you mean the video "How To Root Any Samsung Phone Complete Guide Easy Method 2023"?
Have you tried with each of the 182 Samsung phones?
ze7zez said:
Do you mean the video "How To Root Any Samsung Phone Complete Guide Easy Method 2023"?
Have you tried with each of the 182 Samsung phones?
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im a technician almost tried 40
even s22 ultra
the video is worthless
samsujjamanrifat said:
there is a method for samsung update androids works on 9|10|11|12|13
incase u dont know
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No, I don't. I only know that OnePlus Oppo Realme devices belong to bbk and are hard to unlock with fastboot disabled.
https://forum.xda-
developers.com/t/decision-by-oppo-no-bootloader-fastboot-access-for-oppo-phones-starting-2016.3348114
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ut-unlocking-fastboot-on-oppo-devices.4490041
Xiaomi devices are still unlockable, but you have to follow special procedure, and it doesn't work for blacklisted devices.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/which-tool-to-unlock-bootloader-poco-m5.4535015
what I have heared about Samsung, unlocking is not officially supported for US/Canada devices. also branded devices like cricket, verizon, etc aren't unlockable
aIecxs said:
"Verizon, for example, likes to prevent bootloader unlocking altogether, making it impossible to root your phone. Sometimes, though, people find unofficial workarounds, and we’ll let you know if any are found."
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if you're willing to pay hundreds of dollars for unlocking, visit this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-unlock-for-samsung-us-canada-devices.4215101
@samsujjamanrifat But if you know how to unlock Samsung, you may help out this guy with unlocking
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/samsung-a03s-roo-issues.4532585
ze7zez said:
Do you mean the video "How To Root Any Samsung Phone Complete Guide Easy Method 2023"?
Have you tried with each of the 182 Samsung phones?
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download your phone firmware using same binaries
found it on download mode
extract on pc
copy the ap file to the phone u wanted to root
download magisk apk
click install magisk
select the ap file
wait
then there will be patched ap file
move it to the pc
flash it with odin
after flash install magisk
your phone now rooted
There are channels to buy pre-rooted phones, but I assume that we are not supposed to publish these things on XDA.
Hello there,
I live in Malaysia and recently, I bought a note 20 ultra 5G. I bought it online and device works fine. I wanted to update the device but it kept saying that my device is up to date which is false because I am running Android 11 with 1 July 2021 Android Security Patch Level. I found out that since this device is carrier based (AT&T), and in order to update it, I need to be in the United States, running the phone with an AT&T SIM. I obviously have no intentions of going to the United States solely to update my phone. I tried searching for answers and found no results. I'm too scared of simply flashing the latest AT&T firmware with Odin, fear of the device being bricked with no way of me restoring it or for some reason the device will be carrier locked and I can't use my Malaysian SIMs in the phone anymore. My current baseband is N986USQU2DUF2.
Is there any way that I can update the phone? Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
edit: I meant to type "Android 11 with 1 July 2021" it has been fixed.
Rule #1 if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be.
Upgrades, updates can and do break devices.
This silly stock N10+ hasn't been updated in 2.5 years and is running happily on Pie. Current load will be 2 yo in June with only minimal maintenance. Security is not an issue.
yousof577 said:
Hello there,
I live in Malaysia and recently, I bought a note 20 ultra 5G. I bought it online and device works fine. I wanted to update the device but it kept saying that my device is up to date which is false because I am running Android 12 with 1 July 2012 Android Security Patch Level. I found out that since this device is carrier based (AT&T), and in order to update it, I need to be in the United States, running the phone with an AT&T SIM. I obviously have no intentions of going to the United States solely to update my phone. I tried searching for answers and found no results. I'm too scared of simply flashing the latest AT&T firmware with Odin, fear of the device being bricked with no way of me restoring it or for some reason the device will be carrier locked and I can't use my Malaysian SIMs in the phone anymore. My current baseband is N986USQU2DUF2.
Is there any way that I can update the phone? Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Have you tried using the PC version of Samsung's Smart Switch app,which has a built-in updating tool?
Samsung Smart Switch: Transfer Contacts, Music and More I Samsung US
Seamlessly transfer contacts, photos, music, videos, messages, notes, calendars and more to your new Samsung Galaxy device. Download the app today.
www.samsung.com
Samsung Galaxy Smartphone - How to update software
Samsung Galaxy Smartphone - How to update software
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KOLIOSIS said:
Have you tried using the PC version of Samsung's Smart Switch app,which has a built-in updating tool?
Samsung Smart Switch: Transfer Contacts, Music and More I Samsung US
Seamlessly transfer contacts, photos, music, videos, messages, notes, calendars and more to your new Samsung Galaxy device. Download the app today.
www.samsung.com
Samsung Galaxy Smartphone - How to update software
Samsung Galaxy Smartphone - How to update software
www.samsung.com
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yes I have tried it. No option of updating were available
blackhawk said:
Rule #1 if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be.
Upgrades, updates can and do break devices.
This silly stock N10+ hasn't been updated in 2.5 years and is running happily on Pie. Current load will be 2 yo in June with only minimal maintenance. Security is not an issue.
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But I want to update it. This device in the future will run Android 13. I dont wanna miss that out.
yousof577 said:
But I want to update it. This device in the future will run Android 13. I dont wanna miss that out.
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I hear you. Don't be crying about poor performance, loss of usability and functionality.
No roll back if the bootloader is updated and then you are boned if the upgrade turns into a downgrade.
My opinion is:
10 is a wash, you lose some functionality and what you gain doesn't make up for what you lost.
11 takes away more than it gives.
12 is a fubar. A complete mess. UI, speed suck and it excels at puking on its users.
13? come on... can't you see where this is going?
Testing it first before sacrificing your device be best. Dumb gf's can be useful...
For new versions wait at least a few months to see what users say.
Buy an Apple instead, 12 is a bad copy of Apple's lame restrictive scoped storage security