snapdragon brush strokes vs exynos - Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi guys new to the forum ..im thinking of getting the note 12.2 and need to get an answer fairly quick as I need it soon..ive got the choice between the lte snapdragon and exynos..my main use of the tablet is sketching and painting..artrage has just been released for android so im fairly happy ..my partner has a note 3 neo and tried artrage and it wasn't bad ,but it had lag a lot of lag...out of the snap and exynos which would be better for my kind of use...if I go for wifi I can imagine easier to root than the lte....any help really appreciated

Snapdragon is more powerful, that's a given fact. The Exynos (p900) and the AT&T LTE (Only the AT&T, not the rest) versions also have serious blackscreen, screenflickering, reboot and bluescreen issues.

I never new about so many problems..so what version would you say to get ..im unsure what to do now..

I made the same consideration when I got mine. Given all the problems, and the fact that I needed a powerful tablet for my uses, I went with a P905 (the international LTE version) because it's more powerful and more stable.
If you can spare the extra cash, the LTE edition (Provided it's not the AT&T one) is the best option.

thx for the info..so p905 ill look for ..do the lte versions get the latest updates like the wifi ones..thats what Im worried about and also is it true they cant be rooted

tray271 said:
thx for the info..so p905 ill look for ..do the lte versions get the latest updates like the wifi ones..thats what Im worried about and also is it true they cant be rooted
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Latest update for the P905 is from November.
Towelroot works properly on everything but the newest firmware out of the box. To root the newest you may need to temporarily load an older image of the kernel, but some also report success straight away. Or, if you don't care about the KNOX counter, you can use CF Autoroot.

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Going back to S6 - Should i?

Hey guys
in the past i had a galaxy s6 but i sold it and now i have an iphone 6, ive seen that CM13 is available in Galaxy S6, but i sold my s6 cuz i had the nxt issues:
RAM Management
Fingerprint sensor doesnt work good (sometimes recognize and sometimes not)
Slow TouchWiz
i Want to ask if those problems are solved with the new updates, i can void KNOX so i can install roms and that sh*t, Should i get a Galaxy S6 in 2016?
btw i had the Australian version (G920i)
kmiloxdxd said:
Hey guys
in the past i had a galaxy s6 but i sold it and now i have an iphone 6, ive seen that CM13 is available in Galaxy S6, but i sold my s6 cuz i had the nxt issues:
RAM Management
Fingerprint sensor doesnt work good (sometimes recognize and sometimes not)
Slow TouchWiz
i Want to ask if those problems are solved with the new updates, i can void KNOX so i can install roms and that sh*t, Should i get a Galaxy S6 in 2016?
btw i had the Australian version (G920i)
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Better to wait for the S7
kmiloxdxd said:
Hey guys
in the past i had a galaxy s6 but i sold it and now i have an iphone 6, ive seen that CM13 is available in Galaxy S6, but i sold my s6 cuz i had the nxt issues:
RAM Management
Fingerprint sensor doesnt work good (sometimes recognize and sometimes not)
Slow TouchWiz
i Want to ask if those problems are solved with the new updates, i can void KNOX so i can install roms and that sh*t, Should i get a Galaxy S6 in 2016?
btw i had the Australian version (G920i)
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I was wondering about z5....but so many people are compaling about that device. And I have had a z5 in my hand, and it took awfull photos (low light). I was breaking my s6's back panel, BUT I re purchased the s6 yesterday again. I have tried the 6.0 with it, and looks promising ( I love the manual camera shutter sped control).
come back. this is a cheap device already, ($300-350), and there is non better on the market what have this huge amount of features like s6 (with 6.0 )
Why would you go back to a device where your main issue is the OS? That's just wierd.
Get a Nexus if you want AOSP.
The CM13 you are referring to in your OP is a TEST build and should NOT be used as a daily driver. Bugs, things are broken / not working.
Sounds like you might wanna research some other phones / brands before jumping back to a device your not comfortable with IMO.
- Renolz
renolz said:
Why would you go back to a device where your main issue is the OS? That's just wierd.
Get a Nexus if you want AOSP.
The CM13 you are referring to in your OP is a TEST build and should NOT be used as a daily driver. Bugs, things are broken / not working.
Sounds like you might wanna research some other phones / brands before jumping back to a device your not comfortable with IMO.
- Renolz
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im asking what about new firmwares, have them fix major galaxy s6 issues like ram management?
Samsung will release the gs6' sourcecode after the marshmallow release. This will make the custom rom community much more effective. Looking forward
Edit @renolzSry: I meant kernel sourcecode
anton_gs6 said:
Samsung will release the gs6' sourcecode after the marshmallow release. This will make the custom rom community much more effective. Looking forward
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Link to this statement please? I only heard they will be releasing the kernel source code like they allways do.
Cheers!
- Renolz

Galaxy S7

I am planning to get SGS7, NOT Edge version. I kinda hate it actually. HEre is my question. Is bootloader unlocked ? Cause I can't live without my CM13. And if So May be you guys can recommend Snapdragon 820 based Phone that can run homebrew roms. Right now I am on OP2 and I simply can't handle it anymore after 5 minutes in any game phone slowing down to around 10 FPS, unplayable condition.
Thank you in advance.
The bootloader is currently not unlockable on the Snapdragon 820 version. On the Exynos version, root and (I think) TWRP is available, but definitely no CM support.
Bottom line, this isn't the device for you if you want CM13
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Devhux said:
The bootloader is currently not unlockable on the Snapdragon 820 version. On the Exynos version, root and (I think) TWRP is available, but definitely no CM support.
Bottom line, this isn't the device for you if you want CM13
Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
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Thank you very much for your answer. I also looking into upcoming HTC M10 and LG G5, what do you know / think of them ?
Thank you once again !
Check the Cyanogenmod website to see if your (future) device is supported by CM.
Currently the S7 (Edge) are not supported, but that's just a matter of time.
Galaxy S7 has so far the best camera ever Samsung has introduced. Being Water-resistant is an additional advantage for that people like it, awesome battery and Gear VR system as well. who use a costly phone like a crap.

UMIDIGI S2 Pro

Has anyone started to work on ROM for this phone, looking at the spec of this phone looks promising, it has a large battery capacity which is great but look at battery test for this phone it looks like stock software is not optimized, so just wondering if the community is willing to help optimize or any advise
Bi1a11979 said:
Has anyone started to work on ROM for this phone, looking at the spec of this phone looks promising, it has a large battery capacity which is great but look at battery test for this phone it looks like stock software is not optimized, so just wondering if the community is willing to help optimize or any advise
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the review of low configuration umidigi S2 you can see on Youtube
I've got the regular S2 for a couple of weeks now. It's a good phone with some downsides. Camera is not fantastic but good enough for everyday stuff. If you want amazing photos buy a flagship. Proximity sensor doesn't turn off screen properly while in a call, maybe fixed in future version. One of the major networks in Germany does not work for mobile data in most cases (O2 and Eplus joined and the phone can't handle the "data roaming").
Tech support is non existant. They will point you to their half chinese forums with barely any members that is spammed with press releases. Posting takes dozens of "money" that you must unlock with posts. Very unprofessional but maybe expected for such a relatively small company. There are no service addresses for repairs and the accessories market for that phone is very very limited. Barely any cases or screen protectors out there. If you break anything on this phone expect to get a new one. I have not tried yet but to get replacement parts for this seems near impossible at this point.
Other than that, screen is great for the resolution. Battery life is absolutely brilliant. I can get through a full day with using <40% battery and it lasts easily 3+ days on pure standby.
Wifi has become much better I think after the last firmware update. They are updating the phone but I wonder for how long. This is not a manufacturer that can or wants to support all of it's devices like big ones do.
Materials are good, maybe a bit slippery in the hands but all microblasted aluminium phones are like that.
Screen has a <1mm bezel between the side of the phone and the display surface but I don't care about that.
Build, to me, feels very good. Fingerprint sensor works well and fast. Android is 6.0.1 but I hope they will have an update to 7 or 8 at some point.
I don't care about benchmarks so I can't talk about that, my apps work well. Video streaming is fluid. No idea about 3D gaming I don't use my phone for that.
For that price it's a great phone imho.
Have just pre-ordered this device. Will wait to see what comes, hopefully able to unlock the bootloader and remove any bloatware that comes pre-installed.
It exist a custom rom for s2? I'd like
It has poor camera, other things are very good
What kind of custom could fix in it? Paranoid android?
esclusoilcane said:
It has poor camera, other things are very good
What kind of custom could fix in it? Paranoid android?
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Apparently it's possible to install TWRP on this Umidigi S2 :
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-twrp-umidigi-s2-s2-pro/
I don't have Umidigi S2 to test but I'm very interested by the S2 Pro.
Perhaps it is possible to install Lenovo SNAPit Camera in order to improve the photos by flashing it with TWRP ? :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-lenovo-snapit-camera-redmi-note-4-t3608065
Does it support volt in india (to call using jio)
PJKO said:
Apparently it's possible to install TWRP on this Umidigi S2 :
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-twrp-umidigi-s2-s2-pro/
I don't have Umidigi S2 to test but I'm very interested by the S2 Pro.
Perhaps it is possible to install Lenovo SNAPit Camera in order to improve the photos by flashing it with TWRP ? :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-lenovo-snapit-camera-redmi-note-4-t3608065
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This post was a cut and paste from another phone.
Now the link for the custom recovery is available. I will probably give it a try just to be able to root the phone.
As of today, there is no available custom ROM available for the umidigi s2, although you can find posts on how to revert back to the stock ROM. Those posts are also just cut and pasted from other phones sharing the same cpu
Sent from my S2 using Tapatalk
mine is out for delivery on the 23/11 not bad delivery from gearbest HK to UK ordered 16/11 shipped 18/11 dhl express paid £5-70 then a further £26 import duties from dhl , Reg S2 hopefully shipping with android 7.0 buy now but doubtful , hope the phone gets it's own section in the development department ,,
Sent from my Moto G4 using Tapatalk
Does this phone have NFC?
PJKO said:
Apparently it's possible to install TWRP on this Umidigi S2 :
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-twrp-umidigi-s2-s2-pro/
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I just tried that and while the recovery installs my phone wouldn't boot afterwards. Maybe because I have the main partition encrypted but maybe for another reason.
Also for me the screen was flipped 180 degrees probably due to a backwards display in this phone.
hellrokr said:
Does this phone have NFC?
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I think only pro has nfc I don't see it on mine
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DoobyDroid said:
I think only pro has nfc I don't see it on mine
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Could not find it anywhere. Nowhere is it mentioned even for the pro version.
r0ckarong said:
I just tried that and while the recovery installs my phone wouldn't boot afterwards. Maybe because I have the main partition encrypted but maybe for another reason.
Also for me the screen was flipped 180 degrees probably due to a backwards display in this phone.
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Still early days I wouldn't personally try it but I'm sure in time this phone will get Dev support , I had some feed back from umi on there FB page regarding update to 7/8 they said there waiting on MediaTek's to release source or sdk as this P20 chip was built around Android 6 at the time and the P25 around 7 that's why pro ships with 7 that's what they said , also mentioned an update coming with a week but more likely bug patch still on Jan 2017 security , not the best look on a 2017 phone 2015 os
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Could not find it anywhere. Nowhere is it mentioned even for the pro version.
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I'm sure I read somewhere some regions got nfc how true that is
Sent from my S2 using Tapatalk
I personally would consider it for a next phone, though I'm not sure if the TWRP image for the S2 works on the S2 pro.
r0ckarong said:
I've got the regular S2 for a couple of weeks now. It's a good phone with some downsides. Camera is not fantastic but good enough for everyday stuff. If you want amazing photos buy a flagship. Proximity sensor doesn't turn off screen properly while in a call, maybe fixed in future version. One of the major networks in Germany does not work for mobile data in most cases (O2 and Eplus joined and the phone can't handle the "data roaming").
Tech support is non existant. They will point you to their half chinese forums with barely any members that is spammed with press releases. Posting takes dozens of "money" that you must unlock with posts. Very unprofessional but maybe expected for such a relatively small company. There are no service addresses for repairs and the accessories market for that phone is very very limited. Barely any cases or screen protectors out there. If you break anything on this phone expect to get a new one. I have not tried yet but to get replacement parts for this seems near impossible at this point.
Other than that, screen is great for the resolution. Battery life is absolutely brilliant. I can get through a full day with using <40% battery and it lasts easily 3+ days on pure standby.
Wifi has become much better I think after the last firmware update. They are updating the phone but I wonder for how long. This is not a manufacturer that can or wants to support all of it's devices like big ones do.
Materials are good, maybe a bit slippery in the hands but all microblasted aluminium phones are like that.
Screen has a <1mm bezel between the side of the phone and the display surface but I don't care about that.
Build, to me, feels very good. Fingerprint sensor works well and fast. Android is 6.0.1 but I hope they will have an update to 7 or 8 at some point.
I don't care about benchmarks so I can't talk about that, my apps work well. Video streaming is fluid. No idea about 3D gaming I don't use my phone for that.
For that price it's a great phone imho.
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Hi
Please check and correct me If I am wrong. According to UMI claimed that the first batch of S2 v1 come with non up gradable processor and hence, you can only maintain at Marshmallow version ie. Android 6 while S2 v2 (so called 2nd batch) can be upgraded to Android 7 (no idea to Android 8???). So guys, please check directly with UMI on this issue. I am thinking of getting the S2 Pro but would like UMI to confirm whether same issue with S2 v1 ???? Cheer s -
NDbluewee said:
Hi
Please check and correct me If I am wrong. According to UMI claimed that the first batch of S2 v1 come with non up gradable processor and hence, you can only maintain at Marshmallow version ie. Android 6 while S2 v2 (so called 2nd batch) can be upgraded to Android 7 (no idea to Android 8???). So guys, please check directly with UMI on this issue. I am thinking of getting the S2 Pro but would like UMI to confirm whether same issue with S2 v1 ???? Cheer s -
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I did get sim info from umi regarding diff chips that are built on certain version of Android v1 Android 6 V2 Android 7 they won't answer the question weather V1 can update to 7 all I got was there waiting for MediaTek to release source but unless big demand that will very unlikely happen as they have no need to probably
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DoobyDroid said:
I did get sim info from umi regarding diff chips that are built on certain version of Android v1 Android 6 V2 Android 7 they won't answer the question weather V1 can update to 7 all I got was there waiting for MediaTek to release source but unless big demand that will very unlikely happen as they have no need to probably
Sent from my S2 using Tapatalk
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Below is the info extracted from Umidigi Forum lately .......
"Quote" They said the first batch of S2 will keep on Android 6 (there will be some updates, but nothing of update to Android 7). So the second batch of S2 and the S2 Pro will come with UMI OS Android 7. Anybody received handset with android 7.0 what date are the V2 or is that just referring to the Pro , mine is due 23/11 ordered 16/11 wondered if it will be V2 model with 7.0. Seems odd 2017 handset shipping with 2015 software .... Phone i received week ago got Android 6 so its V1. That will not work on the first v1 of Umidigi S2 sadly. It's made for MT6757D (S2 v2).
How ever there are phones out there already with MT6757 (Not MT6757D) will be on Android 7.0. "Unquote"
Hope this clear some of your thoughts. Thank you.
Bit of a con from umi
Won't be keeping it long then
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DoobyDroid said:
Bit of a con from umi
Won't be keeping it long then
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This is what I got the reply from UMI moderator
S2 version 1 coming with Android 6 and can't be updated to higher android version.
S2 version 2 will be coming with Umidigi OS based on Android 7. Further updates are not confirmed.
S2 pro is coming with Umidigi OS based on Android 7. Further updates are not confirmed.
:silly::fingers-crossed:

Galaxy G9500 ROM??

Help required for a newby:
I bought a Galaxy SM G9500 (Snapdragon) in Thailand and it's not compatible with Aussie apps or app store. (Even Samsung switch)
Is there a standard Aussie ROM out there??
I've never rooted a phone before so am a bit nervous as you can imagine!!
steveawest said:
Help required for a newby:
I bought a Galaxy SM G9500 (Snapdragon) in Thailand and it's not compatible with Aussie apps or app store. (Even Samsung switch)
Is there a standard Aussie ROM out there??
I've never rooted a phone before so am a bit nervous as you can imagine!!
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Not many roms available for the snapdragin variant.
sofir786 said:
Not many roms available for the snapdragin variant.
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I did find this XDA post 'TWRP is Now Available for the Snapdragon Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+'
Any idea if this is what I'm looking for?
steveawest said:
I did find this XDA post 'TWRP is Now Available for the Snapdragon Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+'
Any idea if this is what I'm looking for?
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Okay il just give you the important details, the snapdragon variant, which you have has a locked boot loader which means you are very limited on what you can do, twrp will not work, don't even try it, you will mess your phone up.
Root is available but there are bugs, such the phone not charging beyond 80%.
Because of those above things, rom development for the snapdragon variant is almost non existent, and a lot of that is down to having a snapdragon version.
I'm also a bit surprised there are next to no development activity (ROMs) for the Snapdragon variant. It seems like Exynos is getting all the love.
I was ' ' this close to pulling the trigger on a G9500 (or even N9500) but have now noticed there is just about no community support for these. :crying:
Worth noting the Exynos 8895 doesn't have a NPU whereas the Snapdragon does (Hexagon DSP). Something becoming much more important as onboard AI takes a larger role.
List of device variants
In other news: It's also a bit odd that the S8 and S8+ landing pages have incorrect/incomplete device descriptions.
Yes, it's frustrating that poor old Snapdragon is not getting the same attention!
Judging by your your Modelnumber you should have the Chinese Version with unlocked bootloader. So it seems that you can flash different Chinese and Hong Kong Firmwares, some of them apparently having the Playstore. It sounds pretty complicated and is a lot to read: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/samsung-galaxy-s8--s8-cross-device-development/recovery-twrp-galaxy-s8-s8-snapdragon-t3636718
Good luck :good:
Marvinho+ said:
Judging by your your Modelnumber you should have the Chinese Version with unlocked bootloader. So it seems that you can flash different Chinese and Hong Kong Firmwares, some of them apparently having the Playstore. It sounds pretty complicated and is a lot to read: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/samsung-galaxy-s8--s8-cross-device-development/recovery-twrp-galaxy-s8-s8-snapdragon-t3636718
Good luck :good:
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Wow, thank you I'll check it out.

Please help me with this new Note 20 Ultra 5G I got!

Veterans of XDA and Samsung mobiles, please help!
I got myself a Note 20 Ultra 5G today! The model number is shown as SM-986U/DS. I searched and one site showed it's the Exynos model, whereas CPU-Z showed that it's the Snapdragon one!
Did I just buy a fake one? Please help me to find id it is an original one! The Store I bought this from, told me that it came from US but while the phone started, it did not show any US Carrier logo (like T-Mobile, Verizone etc.)
I am attaching the screenshots of About Phone page, please advise me if I need to post any other pictures for clarification! I suppose the IMEI is not necessary, right?
Please help and thanks in advance!!!
that model is for snapdragon variant, to check if device is fake or not plug it into pc and open smart switch, this will read the device info, if it does is real if not, must be fake
Thank you!!
Please give me some time to check it and then reply!
Thanks again!
Hi!
I got these when I connected the mobile with my PC by Smart Switch....
So, I suppose it is ok?
Please have a look....
EdwardSawhands said:
Hi!
I got these when I connected the mobile with my PC by Smart Switch....
So, I suppose it is ok?
Please have a look....
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all good
Thank you!!!
@EdwardSawhands
As mentioned by @tutibreaker, it's indeed a genuine US Snapdragon variant of the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 5G. However, there are some points you might need to consider.
To be precise, it's a carrier model meant for Verizon, which has probably been SIM-unlocked for usage under other carriers. As you can see, the device is running on Android 12-based One UI 4.1. Without a Verizon SIM, you can't get OTA updates on it. As a result, it would be better for you to cross-flash a carrier-unlocked (i.e. SM-N986U1) firmware manually. That way, not only you can experience One UI 5 with Android 13 right now, you can also get rid of the underlying Verizon bloat and enjoy official OTA updates without messing with manual flashing jobs.
Well, thanks for pointing that out! I was really thinking why it was on Android 12 as I heard that 20 Ultra hot Android 13 and also there was no update showing...
I will take some time and read around the forum to get the cross flashing process right!
One more thing, there are actually no Verizone Bloats on the mobile. At least none thay I've found out yet. May be the guy who sim unlocked it, uninstalled all that. Anyway, I'll cross flash it once I figure out the process. Thanks again.

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