Related
Hi there,
Anyone experience that after overnight charging, the battery will drop to 99% instantly just after unplug from charging brick?
I also notice that after its fully charged, turn off the phone and let it charged for another 30 mins or so, once turn it ON and the 100% will stay for 5-10 mins before the 1st drop.
Send from Nexus 5 - best of the best Android device in the world.
Never happened.
ZhenMing said:
Hi there,
Anyone experience that after overnight charging, the battery will drop to 99% instantly just after unplug from charging brick?
I also notice that after its fully charged, turn off the phone and let it charged for another 30 mins or so, once turn it ON and the 100% will stay for 5-10 mins before the 1st drop.
Send from Nexus 5 - best of the best Android device in the world.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that instant drop is to protect the battery...
its normal...
and for longer battery life dont charge it upto 100%...
charge it somewhere around 85 and use it upto 20%...
85-20 is the best charging ratio..
jaj473 said:
that instant drop is to protect the battery...
its normal...
and for longer battery life dont charge it upto 100%...
charge it somewhere around 85 and use it upto 20%...
85-20 is the best charging ratio..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What? It's not normal. Charging to 100% is fine. It shouldn't instantly drop down.
jd1639 said:
What? It's not normal. Charging to 100% is fine. It shouldn't instantly drop down.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Due to it being a lithium polymer battery it is best to only actually charge it to around 85%, as when it hits 100% a part of the battery does actually die.. The same idea goes with running it to 20%, that's as low as you should run it, its not like the old batteries where you have to run it in, that's actually bad for the new batteries that operate most of today's devices.. But with that being said, the amount of the battery that dies with charging it to 100% or letting it run to 5% is so miniscule that you'd only notice a difference after around 600 cycles, so around 2 years.. Even then it would be close to a battery ran to perfection.. The difference between 2 would only be around 10%
jaj473 said:
Due to it being a lithium polymer battery it is best to only actually charge it to around 85%, as when it hits 100% a part of the battery does actually die.. The same idea goes with running it to 20%, that's as low as you should run it, its not like the old batteries where you have to run it in, that's actually bad for the new batteries that operate most of today's devices.. But with that being said, the amount of the battery that dies with charging it to 100% or letting it run to 5% is so miniscule that you'd only notice a difference after around 600 cycles, so around 2 years.. Even then it would be close to a battery ran to perfection.. The difference between 2 would only be around 10%
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You sound like you know what you are talking about so I believe you.
But, the big question is: Who uses their phone for two years!?
Sent from my Nexus 5
El Daddy said:
You sound like you know what you are talking about so I believe you.
But, the big question is: Who uses their phone for two years!?
Sent from my Nexus 5
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
:silly::silly:
just saying...
I have gone through about 3 cycles if battery, with fast charging turned on. Battery life has not been good, especially with screen off drain. Getting about 3hrs SOT while I've heard people say theu get around 6.
So my question is how many cycles should I go through before I judge battery? And should I disable fast charging? Does fast charging damage the battery?
I have the verizon US variant, so there isn't much I can do to improve battery life without root...
Thanks
Turn fast charge off. Turn off AOD. I have an AT&T model. Helped my battery immensely....
I can go the entire day, 6am to 11pm, with average usage and have about 40% battery left. VR drains my battery like butter on a stove.
gleggie said:
I have gone through about 3 cycles if battery, with fast charging turned on. Battery life has not been good, especially with screen off drain. Getting about 3hrs SOT while I've heard people say theu get around 6.
So my question is how many cycles should I go through before I judge battery? And should I disable fast charging? Does fast charging damage the battery?
I have the verizon US variant, so there isn't much I can do to improve battery life without root...
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm also on VZW and I've had my S7 for a week. After about 3 days of poor battery life (~2hrs SOT), I turned AOD, location, BT, and NFC off, and disabled a bunch of bloatware (I posted what I did in the battery thread). That improved my SOT to over 4 hours +more standby time. I've since re-enabled BT and location and haven't noticed a difference. I left fast charge on but I use a slow charger at night, just because that's what's plugged up behind my bed.
Sorry, I don't have a source but I'm pretty sure I read something credible that said fast charging doesn't affect battery life/quality. I know that's pretty flaky, so take if with a grain of salt because plenty of other people are saying it helps.
TehPirate_ said:
I can go the entire day, 6am to 11pm, with average usage and have about 40% battery left. VR drains my battery like butter on a stove.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How Is this even possible?? Do u have aod on? I need immensity help
I too have some similar questions just like @gleggie has posted
"how many cycles should I go through before I judge battery? And should I disable fast charging? Does fast charging damage the battery?"
Also how to measure battery cycles? Any credible app for the same?
Fast charge doesn't affect battery life immediately, charging your phone faster causes heating and overworking of battery, so slowly, average battery life decreases.
Slow charge when possible! (Wireless charge generally heats more than wall charge!)
... My 2 cents
My phone on fast charging, even wireless doesn't get any hotter than previous phones. My other half has a HTC One M8 for two years and still gets 5-6 hours SOT and has fast charged since day one.
I use fast wireless charging and get 6 hours SOT.
All I turned off is NFC, and my signal is usually full.
amedeonofal said:
Fast charge doesn't affect battery life immediately, charging your phone faster causes heating and overworking of battery, so slowly, average battery life decreases.
Slow charge when possible! (Wireless charge generally heats more than wall charge!)
... My 2 cents
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So, to slow charge a S7, do we have to turn off fast charging from the settings and then charge via the charger that came with the phone(the so called fast charger) or should we use a charger from an old phone say SIII etc.?
Does this hold true for Motorola's phone also which have turbo charging option?
Also how to measure battery cycles? Any credible app for the same?
Just turning off fast charge you do a lot good for your mobile..
One thing you can do is check battery temperature as you change charger or method. I don't know about Motorola, but maybe its battery is user replaceable... I personally don't know any app that keeps track of battery temperature
billubakra said:
Also how to measure battery cycles?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On Exynos you can find it in
sys/class/power_supply/battery/battery_cycle
Edit:
Even better, try my new app
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...ge-monitor-t3555496/post71003358#post71003358
amedeonofal said:
Just turning off fast charge you do a lot good for your mobile..
One thing you can do is check battery temperature as you change charger or method. I don't know about Motorola, but maybe its battery is user replaceable... I personally don't know any app that keeps track of battery temperature
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks dear. I have turned off fast charge, should I now charge via the charger that came with the phone(the so called fast charger) or should we use a charger from an old phone say SIII etc.?
Moto G's battery is not user replaceable.
waterdaan said:
On Exynos you can find it in
sys/class/power_supply/battery/battery_cycle
Edit:
Even better, try my new app
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...ge-monitor-t3555496/post71003358#post71003358
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for replying. I wasn't able to find any battery cycle file/log in that location, quite strange. And yes I have the Exynos version. I will test your app and will get back to you.
Of the little what I have understood from various threads here is to charge the battery when it is between 20-40% to 80-90% if you want to have a good battery life. I used to do the complete opposite charge, when the battery is at say 6-7% and charge it till it is maxed. I used to do the same for my laptop, any other tip for the battery?
billubakra said:
Thanks for replying. I wasn't able to find any battery cycle file/log in that location, quite strange. And yes I have the Exynos version. I will test your app and will get back to you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In my app you'll be able to see it, when you turn on
Show sys/class/power_supply in the settings.
As you can see in the screenshot, mine is 52.
sys/class/power_supply/battery
waterdaan said:
In my app you'll be able to see it, when you turn on
Show sys/class/power_supply in the settings.
As you can see in the screenshot, mine is 52.
sys/class/power_supply/battery
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How to turn on Show sys/class/power_supply in the settings?
billubakra said:
How to turn on Show sys/class/power_supply in the settings?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem, I've answered in the app thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71010017&postcount=5
For two weeks my phone (Mate 8 L29) is discharging quickly. Initially I thought it should be because of some applications and so I uninstall the main applications running in the background like facebook.
But that did not change anything. Yesterday I formatted my phone and switched from a B180 Ephemeral rom to the stock B560 (Ephemeral B180 -> Stock B180 -> Stock B560).
The battery was behaving rather well until it reached about 60%, at which time the charge literally collapsed. The battery has gone from 60% to 27% in a few minutes. Around the 30% I saw him lose 1% every 15 seconds! So I plugged in the phone and the ascent of the load was as fast as the fall between 30 to 60%. After 60% the battery seemed to recharge at a more normal rate.
Do you think it is the battery that is physically dead and I need to replace it or can it come from a bug in the battery display?
The phone is less than a year old, but I could not use the warranty since I installed a rom.
On the screenshot you can see the battery go from 60% to 30% then go up to 60%, all in just about 30mins and without using a greedy application like a video game.
darian3 said:
For two weeks my phone (Mate 8 L29) is discharging quickly. Initially I thought it should be because of some applications and so I uninstall the main applications running in the background like facebook.
But that did not change anything. Yesterday I formatted my phone and switched from a B180 Ephemeral rom to the stock B560 (Ephemeral B180 -> Stock B180 -> Stock B560).
The battery was behaving rather well until it reached about 60%, at which time the charge literally collapsed. The battery has gone from 60% to 27% in a few minutes. Around the 30% I saw him lose 1% every 15 seconds! So I plugged in the phone and the ascent of the load was as fast as the fall between 30 to 60%. After 60% the battery seemed to recharge at a more normal rate.
Do you think it is the battery that is physically dead and I need to replace it or can it come from a bug in the battery display?
The phone is less than a year old, but I could not use the warranty since I installed a rom.
On the screenshot you can see the battery go from 60% to 30% then go up to 60%, all in just about 30mins and without using a greedy application like a video game.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you may need to replace your battery..
when exactly did it start.
Do you always charge up your phone A's soon as it starts discharging
Do you always plug in your phone while doing heavy gaming?
rhaspody said:
you may need to replace your battery..
when exactly did it start.
Do you always charge up your phone A's soon as it starts discharging
Do you always plug in your phone while doing heavy gaming?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It started about two weeks ago.
It happened several times to play with the phone connected. In general I expect it to be under 20% to recharge it, sometimes I charge it before if I know I have a long day without access to a power outlet.
I understand the questions very well, but it sounds quick. That a battery is so worn out in a little less than a year.
Im having the same issue and In going to replace the battery today, I'll tell you the results
Enviado desde mi HUAWEI NXT-AL10 mediante Tapatalk
janrck said:
Im having the same issue and In going to replace the battery today, I'll tell you the results
Enviado desde mi HUAWEI NXT-AL10 mediante Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please do keep us posted in case this is a problem of Mate 8
Is it possible to make the message "your device has been unlocked" disappear ? That would allow me to try the guarantee.
I've change the battery and everything backs to normal. The battery life is huge again.
janrck said:
I've change the battery and everything backs to normal. The battery life is huge again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where did you go to change the battery, was it an official change? Did you lose your warranty? How much was it?
Thanks
Also how have you guys been charging your phones? Overnight? Fast charging overnight? Or slow charging overnight?
I changed the battery myself with a youtube tutorial, very easy:
https://youtu.be/b7f8fdYz5ig
I was charging my phone overnight wit fast charging. I know fast charging overnight is useless, but the official charger only do fast charging, so no choice.
I want to change my battery myself, like janrk, but first, just out of curiosity, im going to try the sellers warranty. I try to join Huawei, they just didnt answer.
A lot of chinese website sell "Official Mate 8 battery", but im not sure they are really official. I find 7 to 9€ battery on chinese web site, 12€ on Amazon (chinese seller), 25 to 35€ with european seller. That's only for the battery, i you didnt want to change the battery yourself its between 49 to 80€.
My battery cost me 13€, and is identical to the original battery
Where do you buy it ?
I contacted the after-sales service of Huwaei. They told me that it was necessary to cut the wifi and the mobile data when the phone is in charge. And that in general it was necessary to cut the wifi and the mobile data when one does not have the use of it. I deduce that they have poorly designed these elements of the phones, and that they cause it to overheat. This should reduce the battery life.
I asked them if it was possible to have a warranty. It is possible, but for this i must accept to send the phone to them for several weeks. Since I do not wish to have no phone for several weeks I will order a battery. Their after-sales service is really useless: /
darian3 said:
Where do you buy it ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here https://www.spainsellers.com
stupid thingy ...
almost same thing happend on me and i had to replace battery to solve it.
it took only 10 month to kill damn built-in battery.
i can't belive it. its just 10 month.
i never see like this.
most cheapest battery (made in china) was worked over 24 month.
I just change the battery, is actually that fixes the problem. Now I'm not sure that the battery is necessarily bad at the base. I wonder if the design of the phone does not cause an overheating of the phone that is damaging the battery prematurely.
can using the phone while charging can harm charging port or battery ? im asking this because i was using some days ago my galaxy note 3 like this one day and it stopped charging and was dead..
I don't know about harming the port but, it will definitely hurt the battery, So I don't recommend doing this except when it is an emergency
mahrukhsa2 said:
can using the phone while charging can harm charging port or battery ? im asking this because i was using some days ago my galaxy note 3 like this one day and it stopped charging and was dead..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Note 3 was launched 4 years ago. Battery would have gone bad, you would have noticed the degradation.
In some phones, especially those which charge very fast, the temperature can rise to a high level which reduces the life of the battery, but should not impact much if you are using a phone for 1-3 years. Though one needs to stop charging / using the phone if the temperature reaches very high (say above 60 degree Celsius).
Honor 6X charges very slowly while using and the temperature doesn't rise as much (as compared to other phones), hence that impact is likely going to be lower.
Generally it's not a good idea to use whil charging all the time.
I strongly suggest you to use the phone while is under charge the less that you can, especially being careful about using it in combination with mobile data/GPS services/internet browsing and apps that requires particularly usage of RAM. This because the li-polymer battery plugged on charge with the original charger of 6X, that supports fast charge and so will "push" inside it a stronger power than a normal charger, will almost immediately reach a voltage of 4.1-4.2V to ensure the fast charge service and this is the limit that you want to maintain for being sure that the battery will last the longest time. Using it under charge with mobile data or others mentioned above, will easily overcome the 4.2V limit to 4.3V or even more, depending on what you'll be using, and so the ions capacity will be reduced faster, letting them contain less energy than the original capacity while time passes by.
mahrukhsa2 said:
can using the phone while charging can harm charging port or battery ? im asking this because i was using some days ago my galaxy note 3 like this one day and it stopped charging and was dead..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i prefer not using phone while charging i think it affects battery life
Sent from my BLN-L22 using Tapatalk
arshilhonor6x said:
i prefer not using phone while charging i think it affects battery life
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It definitely does hurt the battery.
I try to never use it, except when in emergency
It doesn't but thats not a good practice in general. With continuous usage, it may get more heated that is not good for battery, phone and eventually you.
Because charging itself will hear up the phone and using it may increase further so avoid it buddy.
https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2015/...-iphone-overnight-doesnt-destroy-the-battery/
Myth Debunked: Why Charging Your iPhone Overnight Doesn't Destroy The Battery
jerryhou85 said:
https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2015/...-iphone-overnight-doesnt-destroy-the-battery/
Myth Debunked: Why Charging Your iPhone Overnight Doesn't Destroy The Battery
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. Charging phone for long time may impact the battery health in long run
shashank1320 said:
Agreed. Charging phone for long time may impact the battery health in long run
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I always charge my phone overnight for these years and nothing happens... maybe I switch phones too fast to notice battery issue... :silly:
jerryhou85 said:
I always charge my phone overnight for these years and nothing happens... maybe I switch phones too fast to notice battery issue... :silly:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hehe may be. I will take time to charge in morning or in night during dinner for 20-40% and then in morning for another 40-50% or if wake up early then may be i charge full 100%. Anything above 80 ia good for entire if couldn't charge full still have 20-30% left when reach home in night.
shashank1320 said:
Hehe may be. I will take time to charge in morning or in night during dinner for 20-40% and then in morning for another 40-50% or if wake up early then may be i charge full 100%. Anything above 80 ia good for entire if couldn't charge full still have 20-30% left when reach home in night.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Almost the same here; i limit the charge to 80% with Battery Charge Limit, i wake up at morning with 79-78%, i go at work and when i come back at evening usually i have around 55-60% left due various jumps here on XDA, internet browsing, some calls and a few messages. When i go to bed i plug in the phone just for a mid-hour so it can reach 80% again, then i remove it from charge and so on.
Hi guys, have you guys ever bought a replacement battery for your p30 pro ? mine is finished. It drains very quickly. I'm thinking of buying one and install it, Has anyone has one to recommend? like where to buy ? link?
there is many out there, but i want the original one. I dont trust those on ebay.
thanks
Nope, mine still holds on really well.
Be sure that there is no app draining your device. Or that your charging habits are okay.
For better battery health:
Try to only use the Huawei charger, and no cheap chargers.
Battery performance degrade faster after full charge and drain, so don't let the battery die too often, it is recommended to charge your phone often. Partially discharge is healthier than (almost) full discharge, they advice to not go below 20%.
JeffreyNijnatten said:
Nope, mine still holds on really well.
Be sure that there is no app draining your device. Or that your charging habits are okay.
For better battery health:
Try to only use the Huawei charger, and no cheap chargers.
Battery performance degrade faster after full charge and drain, so don't let the battery die too often, it is recommended to charge your phone often. Partially discharge is healthier than (almost) full discharge, they advice to not go below 20%.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Standby time is okay. SOT are about 60h after a full charge.
as soon i use the screen, regardless the apps, it starts to drain very quickly. Per. google dua (video call) 25% gone after like 35mins of using. Or if i play games, it kills even faster. Although, I set to the screen brightness to lowest enough so i can see.
I have p30 pro over year, and I am heavy user but battery is still fine, as advised before check for apk issue, must be something there what drain your battery, way to early to replace battery, and battery will be still covered under 2 year warranty, but there will be apk issue, record all apks, and start removing one by one, this way you will found faulty apk in your phone, good luck.
Never used Quick charge, never use phone while charging... Before this afternoon I rebooted the phone at 33%, when turns on again it shows 14%.. And in this last week I notice often that battery quickly discharge under 20-25% (just like 5m of sot 22% to 5% and phone goes to sleep) I'm so disappointed by this phone, after 13 months of use...
me too, i'm looking into one...if you guys ever got one to suggest
Leoxur said:
Never used Quick charge
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does that mean you didn't use his charger, the original one ... ??
Then you complain that his battery is destroyed ...