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how to take good care of you batt

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
good read as it seems many still maltreat their li-ion
acording to old ni-cam myths

Also, make sure you read http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde... revolutionary, comparative, numeric results!

I've always said this simple statement about LiIon: Charge early and often.
Do you need to plug the phone in every time you get off a call? No. Do you need to worry about it dropping below 80%? No. Just charge as often as is convenient. Sitting at a desk for a hour working on something? Charge. Driving for more than 15m? Charge.
I think if you obsess too much you might wind up with USB connector problems from all the cycles on the connector itself, but intelligent use of the above statement should get you the most out of your battery.
EDIT: Drat, replied to the wrong topic.

khaytsus said:
I've always said this simple statement about LiIon: Charge early and often.
Do you need to plug the phone in every time you get off a call? No. Do you need to worry about it dropping below 80%? No. Just charge as often as is convenient. Sitting at a desk for a hour working on something? Charge. Driving for more than 15m? Charge.
I think if you obsess too much you might wind up with USB connector problems from all the cycles on the connector itself, but intelligent use of the above statement should get you the most out of your battery.
EDIT: Drat, replied to the wrong topic.
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that would kill the battery life fast, yea u wont run out of battery soon but keep it up and ur battery is gonna die on u after talking for 1hr

Aznskill2k said:
that would kill the battery life fast, yea u wont run out of battery soon but keep it up and ur battery is gonna die on u after talking for 1hr
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er.......what?

i believe that you have to charge your battery all the way full then use all the power until it dies then you can charge it back again
but not sure

kevinutz said:
i believe that you have to charge your battery all the way full then use all the power until it dies then you can charge it back again
but not sure
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This is the exact opposite of what this article says.
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conditioning the battery the first time you get a new phone also helps, alot of us just charge for a while them use it. all my phones i let them charge for a full 24 hours right after i get them

My battery only last 6 hours

Ugh, why don't people read the article BEFORE they comment?

newarkhiphop said:
conditioning the battery the first time you get a new phone also helps, alot of us just charge for a while them use it. all my phones i let them charge for a full 24 hours right after i get them
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Ehh, doesn't the charger uncharge when the battery is full? Like a safety thing?
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Some articles say that one battery life cycle is used up everytime when a full charge is done. Other articles say that one battery life cycle is used each the battery is connected to the charger.
I have not seen one article that shows the truth with facts.
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kevinutz said:
i believe that you have to charge your battery all the way full then use all the power until it dies then you can charge it back again
but not sure
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No offence but I always found this to be stupid reasoning.
What if you leave home with a quarter full battery and you get caught in the middle of a natural disaster (earthquake as an extreme example) and need to keep in contact with rescuers after being stuck in a building for 2 days?
Personally, I always charge my phone/laptop whenever convenient.

black50z said:
My battery only last 6 hours
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The only problem that your battery lasts only for 6 hours is due to too much charging...So when you will buy a new battery then make sure that only charge your battery when it will remain only 10%...And try to charge your battery with phone switched off..

Charge little and often, try to avoid deep discharge/charge cycles.
Back in the days of NiCd batteries there was the posibility of memory effect where if you didn't do a discharge/charge the battery wouldn't hold as much charge.
NiMH batteries do not suffer this, but discharge/charge cycles were required because when they started being used very few people had smart chargers so had to discharge to be able to time when to stop without overcharging, and also due to confused information pulled over from NiCds.
Top up charges are better for them too.
Lithium batteries also don't have memory effect, and are better off with top up charges.
Ask yourself this:
What would stress the battery more; running 1A through it for 10 minutes or 1 hour?
Also, as the battery discharges, its voltage drops so the current drain has to increase to compensate, discharging the battery even quicker (remember how capacity graphs drop off quickly?)
Say your phone needs 2W to run, with a 4v battery that's a drain of 500mA (P=VI)
When the battery has dropped to 3.5v then to produce 2W it takes approx 571mA.

batt problem
how to keep my batt good?

I've always just charged my phones overnight while I sleep. Never seen ill effects. If I don't make it home that night my phone still lasts through the next day.
It's not like that battery is irreplaceable. Go get a new one if your battery is nearing the end of it's life. By then you would have probably moved on to a new phone.

Rudegar said:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
good read as it seems many still maltreat their li-ion
acording to old ni-cam myths
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skimmed a few parts, but thanks for the read mate, learned tons.

as others allready mentioned, there are many different suggestions how to take care of the battery. I usualy reload the baterry only if the capacity is <= 5%, without unpluging it before it reaches 100%.

thanks for the info!

Only charges up to 95%

Hi guys,
I've noticed that if I plug my phone to the wall charger, when it reaches 95% it just stops charging. I can unplug it and plug it again, and I can reach 100% by repeating the process multiple times, but not in one sitting?
Is this normal? Does it happen to you? Does it get better?

Same here
(Using SuperAosp-ST 4.4)

i have that 2

I got to 98 once !
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Wow. So, is this some kind of feature or what?

frandavid100 said:
Wow. So, is this some kind of feature or what?
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as far as i know, its an known bug

Its by design - charging the battery to only 95% level & then the following discharge. It elongates the battery life. It should never charge to level's exceeding the above.

It's not a bug.
Most batteries lifespan drop if being on high voltage too long (100%)
So usually manufacturers will try to let it state it is fully charged before it even reach 100% to extend the lifespan of the battery.
But if you really want to see it charged fully you can do a battery stats wipe in recovery after a ROM flash. It will be able to charge to 100% fully.
Hope that helps.

navlem said:
It's not a bug.
Most batteries lifespan drop if being on high voltage too long (100%)
So usually manufacturers will try to let it state it is fully charged before it even reach 100% to extend the lifespan of the battery.
But if you really want to see it charged fully you can do a battery stats wipe in recovery after a ROM flash. It will be able to charge to 100% fully.
Hope that helps.
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tried this methode, but no success.
i come from a X10 and SE build in a charging algorithm: battery charged fully, hold this value for one hour and let the battery fall till it reaches 90% and charge again.
do you mean such methode to extend battery life??
the phone from my boss (i9020) charges to 100%, my (i9023) only to 96%

96% is ok, as i said, being in high voltage often kills the battery. 96% keeps it's lifespan much longer.
Being said that, even extremely low voltage kills the battery too. So usually your phone will die before the battery reach 0%

Not this again
From the FAQ post, in this very forum, which should be read before posting a new thread:
Q: I unplugged my phone, and my battery dropped from 100% to 95% immediately, or it won't/takes along time to charge past 99%, what gives?
The answer leads to this informative article about what your battery gauge is telling you, and why 100% is probably not what you want ...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/12/14/your-battery-gauge-is-lying-to-you-everything-you-need-to-know-about-bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/

shamarama said:
Not this again
From the FAQ post, in this very forum, which should be read before posting a new thread:
Q: I unplugged my phone, and my battery dropped from 100% to 95% immediately, or it won't/takes along time to charge past 99%, what gives?
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While I thank you for your reply and linking to that article, that is a related issue but not exactly the same. The usual behaviour is for the battery to indicate a 100% charge and then drop to a lower level, as you bolded in your post. The behaviour I'm talking about is it never going over 95%.
Not a big difference, but enough to notice the change and ask about it. Don't you think?

I myself own a GT-I9020T & have never seen the charge levels exceed beyond 95%.

You are right, your description is subtly different than the post in the FAQ. I have to admit laziness in assuming that they would be one and the same 'problem' ... apologies if they're not.

Well, you did give useful info even though you thought it was an old, tired question. I can't see a reason to give apologies there

Turn the tethering on while charging; it'll charge the battery up to 100%

I think my Vibrant had the same issue / feature. It's probably a Samsung feature and not a bug.
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Mine hits 100pct sometimes but will always stop charging until it drops below 90. A good feature to save the battery. Makes 0 sense for it to be charging every time it drops 1pct for hours at night while on the charger.
I'm wondering if people seeing a difference in the overall charge cap is a matter of rom? I've been using cm for practically ever but I know some people are on stock. I'm sure it's possible something is modded in there to make sure it hits 100 before it stops.
Just a thought.

On nexus s with stock rom I was able to charge to 100%

bolabola118 said:
Turn the tethering on while charging; it'll charge the battery up to 100%
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LOL can someone confirm that?
richrach said:
On nexus s with stock rom I was able to charge to 100%
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maybe thats the problem, because the phone of my friend also charges to 100% (completly stock) mine only to 96% (NSCollab)

So whats the best method for a first-time battery charge?

Do i let the phone shut off from the battery reaching 0%, then charge it to 100% and be on my merry way?

I've read multiple theories, but I think u should take it down out of the box, then shut off and charge to full...I remember ASUS recommending that to a media outlet when the Transformer 300 came out a few weeks ago...so that is what I am going to do when I get mine.

Thats exactly what I did, I let mine completely die and then charged to 100%.

Be careful with how you charge the phone, rather with how low you let it get.
Depending on how technical you want to get about it purposefully letting a battery drop to absolute zero can cause some odd chemical reactions that while not immediately evident can some times shorten battery life.
I would recommend taking it out of the box and using it until it is low but not dead. Maybe 10 or so percent and then either turn it off and charge it or leave it on and charge it just do not pull the plug on the charger until it is at 100%.

Valdeck said:
Be careful with how you charge the phone, rather with how low you let it get.
Depending on how technical you want to get about it purposefully letting a battery drop to absolute zero can cause some odd chemical reactions that while not immediately evident can some times shorten battery life.
I would recommend taking it out of the box and using it until it is low but not dead. Maybe 10 or so percent and then either turn it off and charge it or leave it on and charge it just do not pull the plug on the charger until it is at 100%.
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This.
Full battery cycles are not good for long term life of Li ion batteries.
Also, its unlikely, but occasionally happens where discharging the battery to shutoff will render the battery unable to take a charge. The safety circuit on the battery is supposed to prevent this, but its not failsafe. I've seen more than a few reports on previous HTC devices where this happened. And since the battery on the One X is not easily replaced, the result can be disastrous.
The battery meters on phones are not very accurate in the best of circumstances. No need to drain to shutoff, 10 or 20% is fine. No value added to draining to shutoff, and the consequences can be very bad.
Drain to 10% or even 20%, charge to full, repeat 2-3 times. This is done just to calibrate the battery meter on the phone. Its a misconception that you can somehow increase battery life by "conditioning" the battery. But modern Li ion batteries do not suffer from memory effects, and conditioning only works for older tech NiCad batteries.

I do the same thing for all of my phones.
1. Activate and mess the heck out of it until it dies completely.
2. Charge it up to 100%
3. Mess the heck out of it again until it dies completely.
4. Charge it up to 100%
5. Mess the heck out of it again until it dies completely.
6. Charge it up to 100%
Then use it normally

Mine came dead! it didnt even turn on. so I'm charging it now

mehdi_s82 said:
Mine came dead! it didnt even turn on. so I'm charging it now
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That stinks. It must have been on in the box like that other xda member on here claimed
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Mine came with 1% battery so I just turned it back off and now I'm charging it up, i think the led will turn green when it's ready
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How do you tell if the phone is charged to 100% while off?
While on, my battery percentage doesn't seem to go past 99%. Is that correct or is this last 1% just taking a very long time?
Update: NVM last 1% just took forever. LED does turn green when fully charged.
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The LED will turn green once it's 100%.

Don't worry about letting the phone die and charging it up to 100%.
These batteries don't have a "memory" like older phones

mehdi_s82 said:
Mine came dead! it didnt even turn on. so I'm charging it now
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Mine came dead too. Charged it to 100% and now been using it and so far have 36% on 3h 9m on battery.
Screen at 84%
Does the battery life get better? Because it seems to be draining rather quick. Even though I have screen brightness less than half.

jshahanii said:
Thats exactly what I did, I let mine completely die and then charged to 100%.
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truciet said:
I do the same thing for all of my phones.
1. Activate and mess the heck out of it until it dies completely.
2. Charge it up to 100%
3. Mess the heck out of it again until it dies completely.
4. Charge it up to 100%
5. Mess the heck out of it again until it dies completely.
6. Charge it up to 100%
Then use it normally
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Maroon Mushroom said:
Don't worry about letting the phone die and charging it up to 100%.
These batteries don't have a "memory" like older phones
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@Maroon Mushroom, Correct these lithium batteries dont have memory effect, but over discharging them will shorten its life.
I dont want to sound like an expert, but discharging the battery until it dies is not recommended. It will affect battery life/performance.
A couple of good references here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/discharge_methods
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table

Ya, we use Lithium Ion (Li-Ion) batteries now which dont have a memory. The older Lithium Polymer (Li-Pol) batteries did have a memory and needed a certain charge method to get the longes life cycle out of it.

Awesome, thanks everyone
I turned it off at 20% and wen't to go buy my MicroSIM (ugh...) cant wait to play with it tomorrow

Why would you buy it? Pretty sure they would give one to you for free
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bought it off Kijiji
It's offered by Rogers, but i'm on Telus

Hmm, i hate the idea of letting it die completely. But what i've always done is turned everything on and ran it through a low-powered usb source so it has a charge but the battery is still draining. So even if the battery runs dead it has power via USB plug [make sense?]. Usually having everything on [i do mean everything] and downloading a torrent so the internet is constantly under use. Then again i'm not sure how the One X will work out for this, but thats what i'm planning .

guys its lithium...u cant drain it to 0...even when android shuts down your at around 3.6volts. thats definetly not 0volts. no memory and android wont let you ruin your battery...so charge however whenever.
im qualified in lead acid. ni cad. nimh and lithium batteries. trust me..u cant hurt it unless you short it! !
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Does anyone else's max stay on 1% battery for hours?

So my maxx will drain to 1% battery in about 3 days with 3 hours screen time. The thing is once I hit 1% it can stay on 1% and not shut off for hours. Right now its been on 1% for about 7 hours, I have a youtube video going just to see how much longer it will go. Its been playing a youtube video now for about 20 min on 1%.
I just got this phone last week, is this because the system hasn't fully calibrated the battery? Or is the battery defective in some way? Its kind of annoying because you think you are out of battery but it keeps going so I don't really know how much battery I have.

Definitely not normal. I'd do a factory reset to eliminate a software issue and if the issue persists seems like it must be a hardware issue, exchange it

These sound like calibration issues. Can you fully charge your battery and then leave in on the charger for awhile -- like an hour or more? That should calibrate it correctly.

I have never nor will ever let my battery get that low. These batteries don't like to be drained and then fully charged it's not healthy for the battery. I don't let my battery go below 30 to 40 percent if I can help it. Most of the time I let it get to about 50 percent then I charge it.

bigv5150 said:
I have never nor will ever let my battery get that low. These batteries don't like to be drained and then fully charged it's not healthy for the battery. I don't let my battery go below 30 to 40 percent if I can help it. Most of the time I let it get to about 50 percent then I charge it.
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not to be rude but where is you information or evidence backing your statement? this goes against everything i know and i certainly always allow my battery to fully die then i fully charge it over night while it is off, i believe charging at 40 percent fools the battery into thinking that is the end of the battery's daily life span and therefore dying prematurely due to it believing that 40 percent is the end.
I do not have any real evidence except i've gotten exceptional battery life with my Ultra after allowing a full cycle (draining all the way and then fully charging while powered down)...i have gotten just under 32 hours with 4 hours and some odd minutes screen on with about an hour of voice calls and random other usage such as tapatalk browsing, internet, texting and maybe some email or youtube....i occasionally play some games like the new CoD Strike Force

ahjee said:
not to be rude but where is you information or evidence backing your statement? this goes against everything i know and i certainly always allow my battery to fully die then i fully charge it over night while it is off, i believe charging at 40 percent fools the battery into thinking that is the end of the battery's daily life span and therefore dying prematurely due to it believing that 40 percent is the end.
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The best source is battery university. Here are a few good links. In the first, look at the third column (Li-ion), as that's the battery pack in the Maxx/Ultra/Mini
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
From the second link (emphasis mine):
Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, so also does the depth of discharge (DoD) determine the cycle count. The shorter the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine; there is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life, other than to calibrate the fuel gauge on a smart battery once in a while.
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doogald said:
The best source is battery university. Here are a few good links. In the first, look at the third column (Li-ion), as that's the battery pack in the Maxx/Ultra/Mini
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
From the second link (emphasis mine):
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And boom! All the I have known through all the androids I have has been wrong lmao. I really appreciate you posting this....all the years of trolling forums and reading what everyone is doing or have done to get their battery to last long for a daily cycle...appreciate this.
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So happy I seldom charge up to 100% and leave it sit. I also never let it get super low.
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Coming from a Gnex, I have a charger within 3 feet of me everywhere I go. I'm trying to break myself of the habit of plugging it in but mine still gets a charge at some point during the day, if only in the car. It has always been my practice to let my phones run down almost to dead maybe once every couple of months. I feel like it keeps the phone's battery meter calibrated although I have nothing to base this on.
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will using the 6x while charging does any harm ??

can using the phone while charging can harm charging port or battery ? im asking this because i was using some days ago my galaxy note 3 like this one day and it stopped charging and was dead..

I don't know about harming the port but, it will definitely hurt the battery, So I don't recommend doing this except when it is an emergency

mahrukhsa2 said:
can using the phone while charging can harm charging port or battery ? im asking this because i was using some days ago my galaxy note 3 like this one day and it stopped charging and was dead..
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Note 3 was launched 4 years ago. Battery would have gone bad, you would have noticed the degradation.
In some phones, especially those which charge very fast, the temperature can rise to a high level which reduces the life of the battery, but should not impact much if you are using a phone for 1-3 years. Though one needs to stop charging / using the phone if the temperature reaches very high (say above 60 degree Celsius).
Honor 6X charges very slowly while using and the temperature doesn't rise as much (as compared to other phones), hence that impact is likely going to be lower.

Generally it's not a good idea to use whil charging all the time.

I strongly suggest you to use the phone while is under charge the less that you can, especially being careful about using it in combination with mobile data/GPS services/internet browsing and apps that requires particularly usage of RAM. This because the li-polymer battery plugged on charge with the original charger of 6X, that supports fast charge and so will "push" inside it a stronger power than a normal charger, will almost immediately reach a voltage of 4.1-4.2V to ensure the fast charge service and this is the limit that you want to maintain for being sure that the battery will last the longest time. Using it under charge with mobile data or others mentioned above, will easily overcome the 4.2V limit to 4.3V or even more, depending on what you'll be using, and so the ions capacity will be reduced faster, letting them contain less energy than the original capacity while time passes by.

mahrukhsa2 said:
can using the phone while charging can harm charging port or battery ? im asking this because i was using some days ago my galaxy note 3 like this one day and it stopped charging and was dead..
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i prefer not using phone while charging i think it affects battery life
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i prefer not using phone while charging i think it affects battery life
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It definitely does hurt the battery.
I try to never use it, except when in emergency

It doesn't but thats not a good practice in general. With continuous usage, it may get more heated that is not good for battery, phone and eventually you.
Because charging itself will hear up the phone and using it may increase further so avoid it buddy.

https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2015/...-iphone-overnight-doesnt-destroy-the-battery/
Myth Debunked: Why Charging Your iPhone Overnight Doesn't Destroy The Battery

jerryhou85 said:
https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2015/...-iphone-overnight-doesnt-destroy-the-battery/
Myth Debunked: Why Charging Your iPhone Overnight Doesn't Destroy The Battery
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Agreed. Charging phone for long time may impact the battery health in long run

shashank1320 said:
Agreed. Charging phone for long time may impact the battery health in long run
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I always charge my phone overnight for these years and nothing happens... maybe I switch phones too fast to notice battery issue... :silly:

jerryhou85 said:
I always charge my phone overnight for these years and nothing happens... maybe I switch phones too fast to notice battery issue... :silly:
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Hehe may be. I will take time to charge in morning or in night during dinner for 20-40% and then in morning for another 40-50% or if wake up early then may be i charge full 100%. Anything above 80 ia good for entire if couldn't charge full still have 20-30% left when reach home in night.

shashank1320 said:
Hehe may be. I will take time to charge in morning or in night during dinner for 20-40% and then in morning for another 40-50% or if wake up early then may be i charge full 100%. Anything above 80 ia good for entire if couldn't charge full still have 20-30% left when reach home in night.
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Almost the same here; i limit the charge to 80% with Battery Charge Limit, i wake up at morning with 79-78%, i go at work and when i come back at evening usually i have around 55-60% left due various jumps here on XDA, internet browsing, some calls and a few messages. When i go to bed i plug in the phone just for a mid-hour so it can reach 80% again, then i remove it from charge and so on.