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->[Q] Tablet with digital audio out [tablet->optical(toslink or coax)cable->DAC]

->[Q] Tablet with digital audio out [tablet->optical(toslink or coax)cable->DAC]
Hello,
I've tried the search and couldn't find anything relating to my issue.
I need a portable device/music player that has the ability to stream digital audio to my DAC (digital to analog converter).
I would like to listen to my music in my car using this tablet/music player. I have a DAC/Signal prosessor which has both optical coax and toslink inputs to recieve the signal so either one is fine.
Here is the signal path explained once again:
tablet -> optical toslink or coax cable -> DAC -> any given audio system (In my case also car audio system)
Please help me choose a tablet or help me find a way to do this. I know that some tablets have hdmi out, but it gets a little too tricky to seperate the digital audio signal from hdmi port to spdif, am I right?
Any help is greatly appreciated,
-Tersi

Guys, I don't mean to be impatient but I thought this was the place to get some answers to my problem.
Is there a way to send digital audio via usb port? I think there are ways to convert digital audio from usb to spdif..
Or could there maybe be a docking station, that has a digital audio output?
Please share your knowlage of the tablet world!

I am also looking for this too! I want to use a tablet as a car pc and run the audio out of it digitally to prevent all noise and ground loop headaches.

Did anyone ever get anywhere with this. I'm looking to do the exact same thing and the HDMI converter kit I bought is useless so I'm looking for another go around.

ainol novo basic
I just received an ainol novo basic w/ ICS (mcbub.com from LA). It uses a MIPS processor so not all apps are 100% compatible, however I am able to use it as intended (music player). If you tether you can use pandora, slacker, etc.
I take the HDMI out into a monoprice 5557 (sorry no url)
HDMI converter which outputs toslink, analog, RCA.
I use this in a home application (110v), however they are low power and you can use it in a car.
Be careful you need the Ainol Basic because it has the HDMI output. The paladin (which I also have) does not.
I'm sure there are others but for $130 I doubt you will do better, especially because it's running ICS also.
I use RCA optical into my Fiio DAC (sounds better). Toslink works too.
Monoprice switch uses ~3W on 5V, the Ainol is powered by miniusb.
I'm sure you have an onboard DAC (Fiio is excellent tho), but if you dont I recommend it. It has issues w/ 5.1 audio tho, so only pass it stereo.
I haven't tested 5.1 sound on it, although the specs say it will pass it. Your DAC will probably be the issue.
HTH.

Is this the only tablet that can do that? I was also considering this. Doing digital to the back of the car and then running it to a powerful car audio system.

I am also looking for this tablet or solution to this problem. Anybody knows?

usb dac optical out
I know rhis thread is old but for anyone looking for optical out via usb samsung note2 3 8 pro line s line nexus 7 both. Nexus 10. All of these tested w a behringer uca 202 dac w optical out. And I love it. Almost any newer andoid tablet that supports usb host will work.

b3ltazar said:
I know rhis thread is old but for anyone looking for optical out via usb samsung note2 3 8 pro line s line nexus 7 both. Nexus 10. All of these tested w a behringer uca 202 dac w optical out. And I love it. Almost any newer andoid tablet that supports usb host will work.
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Yep !!ok!!But the problem is (for car install) the charging (in the same time):crying::crying:
Even the older samsung tablets with the multi-pin connectors have the ability to conect and charge .
This make me mad...

tito1231 said:
Yep !!ok!!But the problem is (for car install) the charging (in the same time):crying::crying:
Even the older samsung tablets with the multi-pin connectors have the ability to conect and charge .
This make me mad...
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What kind of tablet do you have there are otg and charging kernels for most of the popular tablets and a few tricks for any samsung that supports otg...and if ur tablet doesn't support it u can wire a relay to a moded cable that will charge when the car is off and otg when car is on.. if u need details let me know.

b3ltazar said:
What kind of tablet do you have there are otg and charging kernels for most of the popular tablets and a few tricks for any samsung that supports otg...and if ur tablet doesn't support it u can wire a relay to a moded cable that will charge when the car is off and otg when car is on.. if u need details let me know.
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Τhank's for answer , i have see your threads for otg and charging .
Your suggestions is very valuable but ....
I have a tab pro 8.4" wi-fi EU ,but i dont have luck with resistanse (88kohm i thing)
Relay is very nice solution-i have use one already for delay the 12v current to my HU.
any battery drain for the next morning??
For the next step ... Behringer U-CONTROL UCA222 ?? ru sure??coz i go for it!!.
Works with no external power???
I can get audio from rca output to??

USB Type C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter

My issue
Hi everyone, I have a Nexus 6P and want to route my audio through a USB type C converter to 3.5mm headphone Jack. I have purchased one online, but it doesn't seem to be working. I have seen that the Moto Z has this adapter and I assumed one I found online would be compatible with my 6P. The reason I want to do this is because I prefer for the AUX jack to come out the bottom of my phone.
What I have tired
Changed 'Select USB Configuration' to all the different options and tried playing music.
Tried 'audio routing' apps from the app store
What I would like to know
Is this because I need to change a setting in my phone to route music out of the USB C?
Do I need to get some kind of DAC to allow support for this?
Has anyone else tried this with their phone?
Thanks
broj0nes

Subscribed. Interested in the solution.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

If you don't mind my asking, why bother?

eregev said:
If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
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One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.

brotherj0nes said:
One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
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Re:sound quality, you'd possibly see a quality increase if you use an external Digital to Analogue Converter or fully usb-c headphones. BUT, if you're using a little dongle (if it's possible), then the phone is still managing the analogue conversion and, thus, a very similar quality of audio output. Now I don't know of the 6p's ability to pipe it straight out iPhone 7 style through a dongle, but short of buying a DAC and going whole-hog on an audio upgrade, I'd just flip your phone the other way in your pocket and go the standard route.
Just my $.02

I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.

sgandy2989 said:
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
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Looks quite similar to the one that I got. Hopefully it works for you! Let me know how it goes

I read recently that the current implementation of audio over USB-C isn't very efficient or battery friendly. There's a new spec being ratified to provide audio like the iphone can. Hopefully that's a firmware change and not a hardware one.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/17/12519936/intel-usb-type-c-headphone-jack-replacement-idf-2016

I don't think it's possible on the 6P, not without using a USB DAC anyway.
As far as I'm aware, the adapter you have is for a USB 3/3.1 interface. While the 6P has USB-C it is USB 2.

I'm able to get audio out of my USB C port, but it's with a USB headset. Haven't tried it with a 3.5mm headphone adapter, but havd no reason to try it either.

This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.

Mgrev said:
This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
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Bluetooth headphones usually have their own DAC, so the audio for all but the Aux is still being sent through the DAC first, which is supported by older USB standards.
The new USB 3.1 Audio standard can pass through analogue audio from the internal DAC, which is what I believe phones such as the Moto Z utilise. Otherwise the adapter would require it's own DAC, which would make it far larger and more expensive.

Not sure if you will find a good solution at the moment since they just created a standard for audio over usb c http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160927006252/en/USB-IF-Announces-USB-Audio-Device-Class-3.0

Did the amazon converter end up working for you?

My experience so far.
Hi, I ordered some usb c to 3.5mm & out of the box so far they aren't working. I tried Neutron and tried to force the audio to usb but unsuccessfully with phone not recognizing the USB connection.
On the other hand the type C to usb-a adapter worked beautifully using mixplorer. If I get working, will update. Thanks.

Bullet USB-C vs. 3.5mm Audio Quality On OP6? Has Anyone Compared Them.....?

I know these are only $20.00 earbuds but has anyone compared? I read usb-c is better because the processing is done in the buds vs. on the phone for 3.5mm.
I ordered and received my OP6 with accessories one being the USB-C Bullets (by mistake choosing the wrong power play bundle). They didn't work and I was going to return them until I found out enabling OTG enabled them. It is kind of a hassle having to enable OTG every time though. But if the output is better?

georgiapi said:
I know these are only $20.00 earbuds but has anyone compared? I read usb-c is better because the processing is done in the buds vs. on the phone for 3.5mm.
I ordered and received my OP6 with accessories one being the USB-C Bullets (by mistake choosing the wrong power play bundle). They didn't work and I was going to return them until I found out enabling OTG enabled them. It is kind of a hassle having to enable OTG every time though. But if the output is better?
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The sound quality of a playback from any device is a relative thing. You can't measure quality but only compare it by and for yourself, still, only subjectively. You have to judge $20 earbuds and ask yourself: are they good enough for me? If the answer is 'No' then you try something else.
Some people rely on 1 to 5 Star ratings posted by the seller, that could be deceiving too.

I came from an s7 edge and I felt that the 3.5mm jack output quality was not as good in op6. So it would be interesting to know if maybe usb c audio is better

koolkunz said:
I came from an s7 edge and I felt that the 3.5mm jack output quality was not as good in op6. So it would be interesting to know if maybe usb c audio is better
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Same, all good with ViPER4Android tho.. (used the same for s7 edge)

Have you tried USB c output?
Hi georgiapi, have you figured out how to enable USB c audio output? I tried several times with enabling otg or switching preset USB mode (PTP,charging, file transfer, midi...) in developer options but I'm not able to make USB c audio working... I read on the internet that enabling otg works with OP3, 3t, 5, 5t...Anyone that can help? I honestly think that music quality coming from 3,5mm jack is really low-quality and I would like to know if with USB c the situation would be better...thanks

Which usb-c to 3.5m jack cables work and why?

I tried the Apple usb-c to 3.5m headphone jack cable and it didn't work, I read online someone saying that it didn't work with the 6T either. Before I buy another cable I am trying to figure out which work and why. My car connection is with a audio cable so I need to use it for that.
Any help or expertise appreciated.

This one works perfectly for me
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07QN2WYXW?

USB C to 3.5mm Adapter Cables
thetonyclifton said:
I tried the Apple usb-c to 3.5m headphone jack cable and it didn't work, I read online someone saying that it didn't work with the 6T either. Before I buy another cable I am trying to figure out which work and why. My car connection is with a audio cable so I need to use it for that.
Any help or expertise appreciated.
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I can't use direct links, so you'll have to play with the text below.
This one worked for me:
*amazon dot com* + /gp/product/B07PF8Z6LB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought but returned this one due to having a buzzing sound and low volume:
*amazon dot com* + /gp/product/B07P5T7QTF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The first link has "DAC" while the 2nd does not seem to have that feature.
I bought the 2nd because it said it worked for the Pixel 2 and because the usb c to 3.5mm adapter that came with the Pixel 2 worked in the OP7 Pro. Unfortunately, the product in the 2nd link didn't work in either device.
I hope that helps

If you don't care about the quality of the dac...you can just get the google branded one...it's cheaper than OP new pricing and it will probably work with any phones without a headphone jack.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a headphone jack + PD adapter that would work for the OP7P? Or am I stuck with buying just a USB C to 3.5mm adapter?

Calling with USB C Earphones?

Hi,
So bought these awesome Razer USB C earphones which have a built in mic. They work fine as both earphones and a microphone but for some reason the native phone app will not route the call audio through them!
I have no doubt this is a quick fix for Samsung kernel or otherwise as they remove the USB port from the next generation of phones but I would expect USB C earphones to work. Other phones like Oppus, Huwei, HTC and Pixel don't seem to have issues.
Any ideas here?

I have the OnePlus USB-C Bullet earphone, it works fine both for audio and for a call.

I've been trying my old HTC headphones I got with the U11. Sadly these don't work at all as they are brilliant headphones.
Probably because of the active noise cancelation they need a specific driver.

Okay, will return and try these instead.

@Class said:
Okay, will return and try these instead.
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The OnePlus USB-C earphones didn't work with my Note 9 either. At least these are cheaper...

I believe some of those headsets use a analog pass trough instead of having their own DAC so they only work with a phone that supports that