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Anyone with an HP iPAQ h561x/h565x (YES, the never-released early iPAQ phone model)?

No, I haven’t messed up the numbers: there were models in the h5600. It’s just that they have been cancelled by HP (see for example this article).
There, however, are still floating devices around (see for example this eBay auction); I’ve also been offered one, which, being a die-hard gadget freak & collector, I'm really interested in. However, it just doesn’t see either the Wi-Fi, the BT or the phone unit at all – in Wireless Control, not even the icons of the first two show up as can be seen in here and enabling the phone results in a “a wireless radio must be attached to use the phone” message as can be seen in here.
The ROM version in the device I’ve been offered is 0.81.13 ENG, dated 08/13/02 (that is, pretty early, taken into account that it was only later that the first rumors on the h5600 series surfaced) as can be seen in here; the device has the GSM module, which has the version WGM_1310something as can be seen in here.
Therefore, if anyone has a h561x or a h565x, please PLEASE let me know I’d be REALLY grateful for any kind of help or information on this device. You’ll get LOADS of greetings and thanks in any “retro review”-kind of article I may publish on this rarity.
I’d really want to have this prototype as a working device in my huge collection of old PDA’s, but would not prefer paying big bucks for it if it is almost completely useless (currently, it is – it’s PPC2k2-based, which means almost no support for any recently released Pocket PC application or game and doesn't support any wireless either).
BTW, the device is legal, even if it’s just a beta one - also see the comments here.
(BTW, don’t be afraid: I’m OK, the reason for my not having published really big articles for a month is that I’ve had a lot of work and the current article I’ve been working on for three weeks also needed a LOT of work and research. However, I really think it was worth the time and effort – it’ll be THE definitive article on everything Pocket PC – to – desktop PC control and will contain a lot of not-just-Pocket-PC-related information on remote controlling issues in general. That is, it’ll be worth reading for anyone that is interested in remote desktop protocols in general, not only Pocket PC users.)

I know that this post is damn old, but I just got such device from my friend. It's incomplete (he taken LCD to his 5450 and never ever tried to boot this), but I'm trying to complete it and got running.
PCB version is 0.5, there's a sticker on case with brief specification, including Proc: Cotulla B1 (so PXA250 @ 400MHz) RF: GSM, SD: Infenion (yes, Infenion, should be Infineon ) and SW Ver: 0.62.28... so much older than this on Yours photos.
GSM is Infineon WGM1310_v03. Ram 64MB (2x Infineon HYB25L246160AC-8), Rom 32MB (2x 128J3AMQG14). Motherboard is almost identical to h54xx photos i got from internet.
Photos, if anyone interested:
http://kitor.dynalias.com/ipaq/DSC_4313.JPG
to
http://kitor.dynalias.com/ipaq/DSC_4322.JPG
they are huge (10mpx, ~5mb per file) and i have slow upload (256kbit) so be patient...
Basically, it looks that the mainboard was shared with all models prom h5xxx series, only difference was in used RF module and software.

My ipaq h5550 arrived, so i used parts from it to complete h5610. Seems to work, has got 0.81.13 ENG rom (so probably the latest developement rom made for it), and the same issues - wireless radio not attached. Only difference is that I got it only when I try to open Phone settings, dialing just give me "failed" message.
Wireless led is blinking after enabling WAN, but after a few seconds wan icon goes red (disabled), although led is still blinking.
I'll try to dig up rom/registry, but for now I'm playing with h5550, seems that after year wth Andorid i lost how WM looks

That is classic.. Should put it somewhere so that the future generation can see how much improvement of phone have gone thru..

has got 0.81.13 ENG rom (so probably the latest developement rom made for it)
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I was wrong, it has got 0.81.16 rom dated 08/16/02
0.81.13 ENG, dated 08/13/02
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so rom version is made from rom date... only three days difference
on label there are 0.62.28 (so 6/28) and 0.60.10 - but the latest one doesn't stick to my theory about rom dates

Just fund this thread here as I was looking to finally get my hands on a (partly) working h5600 series device.
If one of you wants to sell his device: Contact me
BTW looking also for Motorola MPx300 and MPx100 (which also was never released).
In 2003 I spoke to a HP person who told me that the h5600 series was cancelled because they never made the devices work. Later over at brighthand someone from HP said they had cancelled the h5600 series, because customers would prefer 2 devices connected via bluetooth.
Honestly I guess they cancelled development as the concept was way too tricky:
Years ago there was an h5600 device for sale on ebay. The seller offered various modules for wireless connectivity. It was planned to have one for mobile connectivity (gsm or cdma) and another one for wifi. Don't know what was planned for bluetooth!? Anyway, these modules should be swapped by the user depending on what he needs. Therefore there was an additional cover on top of the backside (over the battery).
So, if one wants to sell an h5600: Contact me!!

Well, three-four years ago there was seller on allegro.pl (polish equivalent of ebay) who had a lot of those devices. But I'm almost sure that they were bought for parts to repair official ones. They were also a few mpx300 but since then, i newer saw them again.
About modules - you may look at my photo. There's small PCB with RF module, on 5550 eg. it has WiFi and BT (but when I applied this to 5610, nothing happend - no drivers in 2k2 PE rom).
In 2003 I spoke to a HP person who told me that the h5600 series was cancelled because they never made the devices work.
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This is almost certain. I remember those auctions, and this guy had a large amount of h56xx and written that they are turning on and supposed to have GSM, but it's not working in any of checked ones.
Oh, and there's mine, completed and running
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Nice one, congrats!
How much did you pay for this?

I bought mine disassembled (sb took lcd and battery) for about $2-$3 (10PLN). They were sold complete on 2008 for 150PLN (=~$40), but the seller doesn't have them anymore

[Head Unit] XTRONS TD626A - 2DIN 4.4 Unit w/ Screen Mirroring

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Vendor Specs:
Vendor Site:
XTRONS Website
Experience:
My Car:
KIA Ceed 2008
Installation:
Installation was pretty easy. Once I got rid of the middle console and removed the old Radio, the installation was easy. Stuff all the adapters (WIFI, 3G, GPS) where it makes sense and fix the Radio. You need a 2DIN Install-Cage for your Car, so get that ahead of time. I won't go deeper into the installation, there are numerous "how-to"s that do this way better than I can
Getting Started:
After the installation, the unit gives you no basic steps like you would assume from Android (the timezone, user, mail stuff). General Language is set to English, the Keyboard has an additional Asian keyboard as well so set this to your desired language asap. The unit is fast, the UI is well thought out for Car use. CD play and DVD (region 2, Europe) was no problem and also fast. I added another Bluetooth Adapter because the onboard bluetooth has the known limitations for this kind of head units (only phone connection) and I want to use my Bluetooth ODB2 Adapter.
Until now, I have only positive things to say about this unit. I had a China-Unit before, which broke down after a year of usage and where the hardware quality just wasn't good (wobbly buttons, display kept getting pushed in because it was not mounted correctly and so on). This has a good hardware quality (until now )
Over the next few days, I will configure the Bluetooth stuff and I will see how well configurable the hardware buttons are (for example: Start Spotify instead of the music app when I press on Music and so on).
If you also Plan to get an Android Unit and don't want to wait for Android Auto (and the fact that all units will start at around 1000 € probably ), this may be your unit.
They ship from the UK (even have a warehouse in Germany, where I come from) so if you are in Europe, you don't have to worry about taxes and so on. Also, shipping was very fast (like.. Amazon fast).
Please tell me your experience with this device
Additional pictures:

Spyware?
I have installed this unit this past weekend and I really like it. I have a question though about the possibility of having pre-installed spyware from the chinese on these android devices. How would I go about detecting the possibility that there is something lurking somewhere?

Bockiii said:
Vendor Specs:
Vendor Site:
XTRONS Website
Experience:
My Car:
KIA Ceed 2008
Installation:
Installation was pretty easy. Once I got rid of the middle console and removed the old Radio, the installation was easy. Stuff all the adapters (WIFI, 3G, GPS) where it makes sense and fix the Radio. You need a 2DIN Install-Cage for your Car, so get that ahead of time. I won't go deeper into the installation, there are numerous "how-to"s that do this way better than I can
Getting Started:
After the installation, the unit gives you no basic steps like you would assume from Android (the timezone, user, mail stuff). General Language is set to English, the Keyboard has an additional Asian keyboard as well so set this to your desired language asap. The unit is fast, the UI is well thought out for Car use. CD play and DVD (region 2, Europe) was no problem and also fast. I added another Bluetooth Adapter because the onboard bluetooth has the known limitations for this kind of head units (only phone connection) and I want to use my Bluetooth ODB2 Adapter.
Until now, I have only positive things to say about this unit. I had a China-Unit before, which broke down after a year of usage and where the hardware quality just wasn't good (wobbly buttons, display kept getting pushed in because it was not mounted correctly and so on). This has a good hardware quality (until now )
Over the next few days, I will configure the Bluetooth stuff and I will see how well configurable the hardware buttons are (for example: Start Spotify instead of the music app when I press on Music and so on).
If you also Plan to get an Android Unit and don't want to wait for Android Auto (and the fact that all units will start at around 1000 € probably ), this may be your unit.
They ship from the UK (even have a warehouse in Germany, where I come from) so if you are in Europe, you don't have to worry about taxes and so on. Also, shipping was very fast (like.. Amazon fast).
Please tell me your experience with this device
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Hi, could you make a photo of your Settings->About screen? Would be curious about the system version and the MCU Version you have.
Does the radio already play when booting up or do you have to wait until the boot is completed?
Thanks!

TheSSJ said:
Hi, could you make a photo of your Settings->About screen? Would be curious about the system version and the MCU Version you have.
Does the radio already play when booting up or do you have to wait until the boot is completed?
Thanks!
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I have the same unit and have been running it for a few weeks. I really like this head Unit and would very much like to root it as it does NOT come rooted. I would like a "safe" way to gain root access.

Crescendo84 said:
I have the same unit and have been running it for a few weeks. I really like this head Unit and would very much like to root it as it does NOT come rooted. I would like a "safe" way to gain root access.
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Hi,
unfortunately (for me ) this isn't an AN21-u, but a HuiFei device (Rockchip 3066). the first post explains how to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660662
Good luck!

TheSSJ said:
Hi,
unfortunately (for me ) this isn't an AN21-u, but a HuiFei device (Rockchip 3066). the first post explains how to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660662
Good luck!
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You asked for the Settings/About screen for this unit (TD-626A) didn't you?

Of course, you are right. Thanks for the pics
I read somewhere you wanted to root the unit, that's why I provided you the link to the huifei forum.
Have fun with your xtrons!

Xtrons and spotify
Hi Bockiii
How did you get on using spotify?
I cant get the next and previous buttons to work with spoifty, could you?

Question Change firmware or canbus?

Hello, guys I'm new at this and I got a Ekiy T7 9 inch for my Peugeot 508 2013, the wheel controls worked, but in many ways it failed, I tried to work it out with the seller but no luck, I'm really disappointed, but maybe you could help me out.
I'm disappointed because you cannot configure as I've seen in other canbus settings, camera resolution and all the stuff to switch from reverse to front camera.
So here is my question, that can be done by changing the canbus or the firmware, to get all the options?
I've seen other moldels of canbus according to they site are compatible with my peugeot.
I attached pics of muy specs and menu,
PLEASE HELP, I can't afford to send it back or buy a new one.
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Never got around to hooking up my canbus decoder (no factory wires on the radio harness), but I've read it's common to need to adjust the baudrate to get the headunit to recognize the decoder. Have you tried this? Which decoder is selected currently in factory settings?

ziddey said:
Never got around to hooking up my canbus decoder (no factory wires on the radio harness), but I've read it's common to need to adjust the baudrate to get the headunit to recognize the decoder. Have you tried this? Which decoder is selected currently in factory settings?
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Hi, thanks for the response, I selected my car a Peugeot 508, ir has the option of RCZ and 2019, chose 2019 due works better..
But still missing options and for example I saw some vids that the car reverse original sound, the beep, works in this unit doesn't, what I was planning if I find which canbus they have, install that one, if that doesn't brick the unit and maybe I can get all the options for the canbus.

But I want to be sure, if that doesn't brick the unit or i have the desired result.

ElShaman said:
But I want to be sure, if that doesn't brick the unit or i have the desired result.
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Changing the CANbus decoder will not brick your unit. Check with your reseller whether he send you the correct decoder.
Replacing your FYT firmware with other FYT firmware will probably not brick your unit either, but might work not as good as you do need some minor tweaks to adjust it for your specific unit.
But first check with your reseller whether he sent you the correct decoder

surfer63 said:
Changing the CANbus decoder will not brick your unit. Check with your reseller whether he send you the correct decoder.
Replacing your FYT firmware with other FYT firmware will probably not brick your unit either, but might work not as good as you do need some minor tweaks to adjust it for your specific unit.
But first check with your reseller whether he sent you the correct decoder
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Ok,
I talked last night, my time with some canbus sellers, they told me it was not probably a decoder problem.
As far as I could find is the same decoders that normally uses other radios, seems that the factory settings menu is not full developed by the seller engineer department or developer team or manufacturer, so is missing options and features, to be called. Mine is PSA-RZ-69 others are 15, it seems is newer by the date is set in it.
Don't know if I can just change that menu? and I'm not an expert of firmware changing or tweaking, more programing...I'm good following instructions and technology, if is not too complicated I could try, just changing that ROM..
After I open a dispute te seller agreed to show to the department of engineers, some vids of other units that has it and are similar to mine...and try to solve the issues I presented to him.
For me, the biggest issues is that I cannot setup the front camera for it to swap after I disengage the reverse gear, also it doesn't show the lines, also that I lost the original car beeping sound of the sensors through the car spearkers, that I see it works with almost the same canbus decoder in other radios...
My best bet is software related...I'll keep posted if the seller resolves the issue...

I have another question, I can change the BT app of the radio, only that, for a better one? that accept split screen?

ElShaman said:
Ok,
I talked last night, my time with some canbus sellers, they told me it was not probably a decoder problem.
As far as I could find is the same decoders that normally uses other radios, seems that the factory settings menu is not full developed by the seller engineer department or developer team or manufacturer, so is missing options and features, to be called. Mine is PSA-RZ-69 others are 15, it seems is newer by the date is set in it.
Don't know if I can just change that menu? and I'm not an expert of firmware changing or tweaking, more programing...I'm good following instructions and technology, if is not too complicated I could try, just changing that ROM..
After I open a dispute te seller agreed to show to the department of engineers, some vids of other units that has it and are similar to mine...and try to solve the issues I presented to him.
For me, the biggest issues is that I cannot setup the front camera for it to swap after I disengage the reverse gear, also it doesn't show the lines, also that I lost the original car beeping sound of the sensors through the car spearkers, that I see it works with almost the same canbus decoder in other radios...
My best bet is software related...I'll keep posted if the seller resolves the issue...
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What is the result of this dispute?

Question Ford C-Max Android Unit - My Feedback and help request

Hi everyone,
so i've bought a new android unit for my car. I have been checking the other posts in this forum but they are kind of "pro level" so i felt the need to clarify some doubts. I know you guys are experts, if you can help be i would be thankful. I'll also provide some feedback that maybe can help people who are considering buying it.
The unit i've bought is this one:
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Link for it: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003003858975.html?spm=a2g0o.9042311.0.0.27424c4ds0To05
I have a Ford Grand C-Max manufactured 11/2015 (the restyled one), and i thought this radio would be a good fit (i've had other android units in my past cars). I bought the 6G+128GB version (TS6 version), with Android 11. The brand is "Navifly", however i guess this is just another brand variation.
1) Feedback​
Positive​- Fast and fluid Android experience - no lag to complain about.
- Sound Quality - a great improvement over the Ford Sync 2 original radio - better definition, better bass, supports higher volumes without distortion
- Radio has RDS - it actually shows the station name (we don't have DAB in Portugal, it is still FM) and the tuning quality is good
- GPS is ok. Not awesome, but usable. Supposedly, it also gets some Glonass satellites, but as you know Glonass constellation is sparser, so it usually only gets GPS triangulation. I use Waze, sometimes it takes a bit to understand where it is.
Negative​- Quality of design and build of the plastic fairings: the plastic fairings are much lower quality relatively to the Ford ones. They don't precisely fit the car dashboard, by a couple of milimiters. I have it provisionally installed, but i'll have to shave some plastic when i get it definitely installed. Additionaly, the chines fairings don't have the metal clips/retainers that the original plastics have to get it securely in place. I've has to order some to get this sorted out...
- The CANBUS communication:
-> i am not getting any steering wheel communication at all (no volume control, no call pick up. This is the worst part for me
-> the information of the parking sensors is erratic. My car has 6 sensors at the front and 6 at the back (360º coverage) and there is quite an error on the info shown in this android unit, so i am not not trusting it a lot. Besides that, it is slow to react (couple of seconds), and the car should be drawn vertically (you brain needs to rotate the view 90º to get it right).
-> No Park Assist (automated parking) information is shown at the unit, so the Park assist is not currently working
-> I can get reversal signal, climate info (when i change it), and open door information.
- The screen. For its size, its low resolution, not bright enough, and it is very reflective. Not very happy with it.
​2) Help Request​I need help to sort the CANBUS limitations. This is the canbus box they sent me:
I guess this box is not the most adequate for my C-Max. I can't read chinese characters so i really don't know what it says at all. I've tried to get into the canbus box definitions in the settings menu and have tried selecting other canbus choices with no avail: i couldn't get steering wheel info at all. So i've went a bit overkill and ordered two canbus boxes to see if a different canbus box solve my issues. I've ordered these two:
- Another Hiworld box (i guess this is a newer version than the one i have, so i hope they have sorted out the issues) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002718903038.html?spm=a2g0o.9042311.0.0.27424c4dac8EZc
- An XP one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002327630203.html?spm=a2g0o.9042311.0.0.27424c4dac8EZc
So i now have three questions for you guys:
1) Is this a FYT unit? Or a Mekede?
2) Will any of the new boxes sort out my canbus miscommunication?
3) Is there any place where i can get a firmware update? Or canbus firmware update? This is what the Android System settings show about my unit:
Thank you guys in advance for your help!!

I have tried other two canbus boxes from Hiworld and XP, with no avail. Still no steering wheel controls. Any suggestions?

JMourinho said:
I have tried other two canbus boxes from Hiworld and XP, with no avail. Still no steering wheel controls. Any suggestions?
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What does reseller suggest when contacted for support.

JMourinho said:
So i now have three questions for you guys:
1) Is this a FYT unit? Or a Mekede?
2) Will any of the new boxes sort out my canbus miscommunication?
3) Is there any place where i can get a firmware update? Or canbus firmware update? This is what the Android System settings show about my unit:
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Hi,
1) Mekede = FYT, not every FYT is a Mekede. But your unit is a Topways built unit sold by reseller TopNavi, so neither a Mekede nor a FYT nor a NaviFly. You are in the wrong sub-forum. Please ask in the general Android Head Units subforum
2) Ask your reseller TopNavi.
3) Please ask your TopNavi reseller or in the general Android Head Units subforum. There your will find the TSx series with firmwares and other information.
And by the way: It is a fake Android 11. It is still Android 10 (Api/SDK 29) as displayed on the web page. One can write a script that will set the "Android level" to any version you like: Android 10, 11, 31, 451, 10961, 4, ..
But it is a nice looking unit compared with the standard Ford units.
EDIT: This seems to be a FYT after all. Sorry for the confusion.
In my signature you find on the 3rd line the "HWGetInfo.apk". Please run it and share the created zip file.

Help identifying head unit for fixes and/or upgrades - PX6 RK3399 in a BMW E38

LONG story short I bought this used MCMW head unit, tried getting my money back but PayPal sided with the seller even though it's missing pieces and constantly crashes after about a week of use. Performance has been under par (compared to AVINUSA.com or Joying unit's I've got running in other BMW's) and the manufacturer hasn't been helpful when I keep asking for firmware to reflash the unit to see if that'll help. It'll run decently for about a week, then suddenly Waze, the DVR app, etc will continually crash leaving me to only use the unit for Bluetooth and that's about it...unless I reset it back to factory, reinstall apps and then buy myself another week. The touchscreen is oddly either unresponsive or too sensitive as I'm scrolling around, it's just getting frustrating for daily use. I just wanna see if anyone has any advice on how to improve it's performance so it's usable and doesn't need weekly resetting. Even pointing me to the correct forums would be helpful but direct links to actual flashable firmwares, updates, etc would be awesome.
https://mcmwtuning.co.uk/e38-android-audio
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Unfortunately, the forum crystal ball doesnt know what you unit is and from the hundreds of made up models and brands, the seller could be selling units of different types, from different factories, despite branding with the same model name.
Post screenshots from Android system information, including the MCU version when posting questions.
Doing this will at least help others help you, or you might find the information has already been posted or discussed here, yourself.

Damn it, man...just squint harder and you'll see it!! ;-)
My bad....I'm at work, meant to post these and then got caught up. Hopefully these suffice.
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Hello, your unit is MCU: MTCH, the app crashes problem is doing the last updates of android webview and chrome. Maybe that's your problem too. Just uninstall and disable their updates, reboot the unit. Ignore any requests to update them. A firmware update won't help, this is the only working solution on Android 10 so far.

Ok, I'll try that since I did update Android Webview and Chrome during my lunch, yet Waze and my dashcam app crashed consistently on my drive home. I'll try uninstalling both and see if that helps me avoid having to completely reset the unit again.

Requested moderator moves to MTCD section.
Op read through MTCD section, the issue has been discussed already.

Pavel-71 said:
Hello, your unit is MCU: MTCH, the app crashes problem is doing the last updates of android webview and chrome. Maybe that's your problem too. Just uninstall and disable their updates, reboot the unit. Ignore any requests to update them. A firmware update won't help, this is the only working solution on Android 10 so far.
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Disabled, cleared their storage and now Waze works again. Unit's still slow to respond (dragging apps for split screen took like 8 tries) vs it's stats but at least it works now. Thanks for the help.

I bought the same unit for my E38 but I bought it from Xtrons directly thru xtrons-usa on ebay I almost purchased it from MCMW until I figured out he is reselling an Xtrons unit even though he says he is not and says that Xtrons is rubbish. I can tell you it is the biggest POS I've spent $400 on so MCMW is right it is rubbish. I think it runs better after updating webview seams to be more fluid but I just updated it after reading this thread lastnight so time will tell, you understand.
Xtrons PQS1139BL issues
Hello, I purchased an Xtrons PQS1139BL and it's been a toxic relationship. I love the features but its very buggy. Xtrons says there are no updates for this unit and I think they are tired of dealing with me. This is my bug list. Every...
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I did resolve the noise issues by dumping the factory amp since I posted this.

Ooh I'm sure they're the ones exact same units, I guess the only saving grace of keeping this used unit is that it included all the iBus converter and another module I'm forgetting about but I can read everything from the OBC on the iBus app and it adds features like triple blinkers.
My current frustration with the unit (which happened to bring me back to these forums today) is that I wanted to see if there's a way to adjust screen sensitivity/accuracy. As I mentioned above it takes multiple times to move apps around in the app drawer, trying to run dual apps and even general use.

m5james said:
Ooh I'm sure they're the ones exact same units, I guess the only saving grace of keeping this used unit is that it included all the iBus converter and another module I'm forgetting about but I can read everything from the OBC on the iBus app and it adds features like triple blinkers.
My current frustration with the unit (which happened to bring me back to these forums today) is that I wanted to see if there's a way to adjust screen sensitivity/accuracy. As I mentioned above it takes multiple times to move apps around in the app drawer, trying to run dual apps and even general use.
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Mine is horrible to navigate. I use carplay and use my phone as much as possible.