I have a question, when the imei is changed to a rooted Android device, does the company operator see that new imei? Well, I understand that the imei is stored in ROM memory. Does any developer know how the Android OS accesses said IMEI number to send it to the operator?
Or do the magisk and app modules that mask the imei really cause the android system to send the changed imei when requesting the IMEI information?
Request this information not for illegal purposes, but to see the real usefulness of the apps that claim to be able to change the imei
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It is illegal in quite a few countries to change the IMEI. At XDA, we don't allow discussions on changing the IMEI.
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http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,5677
This is an interesting patch to the CM7 repository frameworks base. If you scroll down and expand the comments you can follow the guys arguments on justifying such feature. Basically from what I understand this would allow you to spoof personal data to apps which may or may not request it. From contacts to SD card contents as well as phone IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity) number.
It's not a committed change but I wanted to see what the community thinks of having such feature. Personally I see all the reasons why this would open up a can of warms. What do you think?
I think in some other implementation this could be really helpful to the paranoid (like myself). However, I also think that those that are against it have VERY valid points. The community needs MORE widespread acceptance, not less, and something like this could cause major problems with Google, Carriers, Developers....
Sent from a bird cage, with a swing!
Correct me if I am wrong, but the intention is to spoof necessary data that an app might request that it doesn't actually need and to help prevent app force closes that straight up permission blocking causes. Like pandora requiring to read contact data.
Setting aside the other ramifications for a second... This is actually a good idea. It gives us power to not have to accept (for example) Pandora being greedy bastards.
Now the other ramifications are indeed severe. But for example, Swype. Why the hell can't I just buy it on the market?
I think arguing over it is a moot point. This cat is already out of the bag. We can't stuff it back in. This functionality is coming. Maybe not on Cyanogen, but it will be here for the masses soon. The greedy bastards that are trying to milk the system had just better deal with it.
Wow this thread could not have popped up at a worse time , what with all the NexusSense 0.3 users having trouble with their IMEI's.
But having read through all the comments on the change, i see why the CM team do not want to implement it, obviously this kind of change would piss off devs and carriers and of course google.
Yes it is a good idea for us users, but for CM's image and survivability , id say not having it is a sacrifice we need to make
First of all:
Wrong section.
Second: They won't add it anyway.
Some developers cried about it and everything.
dario3040 said:
First of all:
Wrong section.
Second: They won't add it anyway.
Some developers cried about it and everything.
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I figured this is about a development of Android ROM and posted in "Android Development" section. Forgive me if there was a better place to post it in.
This is also not marked as abandoned (as of this post) and still up for debate in the open section of Cyanogenmod Gerrit section.
For devices without an IMEI because they don't have a cellular radio, such as the Nook Color, some amount of this is valid and regarded as highly valuable. While I don't condone being able to haphazardly change or spoof your IMEI, I do believe that for devices that don't have an IMEI that some measure should be taken to create a device specific IMEI that will persist between different ROMs and ROM installations. Unfortunately with no IMEI support for devices like the Nook Color, there is no persistent ID that can be used. As developers continue to use the IMEI as a "device stable" ID, we need to come up with a way to support devices that don't have such an ID, and perhaps generate a non-colliding IMEI from a has of their login information, or some other identifying metric that will persist between different installations. The TAC could be created to identify the device type, and then the serial number could be generated based upon some information provided by the user.
In short, outright spoofing is probably a bad idea, but something needs to be done for devices that don't supply these sorts of IDs.
Read fully this is not a warez request
I just want to see if someone can make an app or develop the FIFA 15 UT Android in such a way that I can simulate SEASONS and not just single matches also I want to be able to win in matches during this simulation
Since ea doesn't request us to pay to win this request is not warez
Such a thing is not possible without reverse Engineering the App. You can post the request to EA on the App's Google Play page should you choose to do so with bit more explicitness.
Since this request can not be met without modifying current app, (which would violate XDA rules), thread closed.
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Hi guys,
I am looking for a developer to write an android client that works with Whatsapp the same way the Whatsapp' desktop client works.
i.e. receive all Whatsapp massages and send messages to Whatsapp , in a transparent manner - without intervening Whatsapp normal flow.
Please advice of someone who might take this challenge.
THX
If I recall correctly, modifying WA / using a 3rd party client (like WhatsApp+ has been) is against their TOS and leads to account suspension.
Just a heads-up.
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Does anyone know how to know how to circumvent a device ban on android? Clearing cache, deleting app, deleting app history does not work. They are placing a device ban for this particular app on the phone.
Any recommendations or advice appreciated.
Thank you.
They who. What app
Tinder
Maybe "They" think it is not appropriate. Any other app being blocked? When blocked does it give you some info/message
Am just trying to figure out how to circumvent a device ban. Have been researching xprivacy and things like this but have not quite figure out how they are linking the device. Even a factory reset doesn’t work.
If a factory reset didn't fix it I'd wonder if your phone is even legal? That pretty much has to be the IMEI is banned AFAIK.
Did you buy it from a legit source?
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Am just trying to figure out how to circumvent a device ban. Have been researching xprivacy and things like this but have not quite figure out how they are linking the device. Even a factory reset doesn’t work.
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Probably IMEI based. That's what other apps like Snapchat have used for handing out device bans. You can't circumvent it if its IMEI based unless you know how to mask it or spoof it. The app may also look for additional things like the MAC address and IP address in combination.
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Probably IMEI based. That's what other apps like Snapchat have used for handing out device bans. You can't circumvent it if its IMEI based unless you know how to mask it or spoof it. The app may also look for additional things like the MAC address and IP address in combination.
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Yeah, I would imagine it is IMEI based.
Any recommendations on how to spoof it?
Thanks
Laser422 said:
Yeah, I would imagine it is IMEI based.
Any recommendations on how to spoof it?
Thanks
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I doubt XDA would take kindly to people advising how to conceal IMEI.
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I doubt XDA would take kindly to people advising how to conceal IMEI.
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Hello and good afternoon, @Journyman16
Just for your information: We do not allow discussions of or support for the change or edit of IMEI's. But we accept if the discussion is about the restoration or repair of the original IMEI. And we also allow spoofing or masking of IMEI as long as it's done on sofware level and the actual, original IMEI isn't tampered with. Spoofing of IMEI's is mainly used out of privacy concerns; however, if such talks deviate to illegal purposes we'd highly appreciate a report.
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Oswald Boelcke said:
Hello and good afternoon, @Journyman16
Just for your information: We do not allow discussions of or support for the change or edit of IMEI's. But we accept if the discussion is about the restoration or repair of the original IMEI. And we also allow spoofing or masking of IMEI as long as it's done on sofware level and the actual, original IMEI isn't tampered with. Spoofing of IMEI's is mainly used out of privacy concerns; however, if such talks deviate to illegal purposes we'd highly appreciate a report.
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Thanks for clarifying Oswald. I didn't know how it might be seen by XDA. TBH I didn't really know what a 'device ban' is having only heard of IMEI's being banned after the phone being stolen.
Laser422 said:
Yeah, I would imagine it is IMEI based.
Any recommendations on how to spoof it?
Thanks
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There used to be some ways to do that (with root) on older android versions, but i've never needed to try anything like this personally.
I believe there are xposed modules purpose built for obfuscating IMEI, MAC address and IP address, to disallow apps from identifying devices, like xprivacy, but again, I don't think these work on newer versions of Android.
You can try, but going by my current knowledge (on newer android versions), the only recourse you have is to get a new device (and preferably use a different account) to log into the app in question if it really matters to you.
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TBH I didn't really know what a 'device ban' is having only heard of IMEI's being banned after the phone being stolen.
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There are many apps that use "device ban" in addition to "account ban". They usually create a device ID in their database which is based on IMEI, MAC address and IP addresses, and can deny access to their services based on one or more of these identifiers.
Game companies do this all the time, and social media companies like SnapChat and TikTok also employ similar banning techniques. And over the years, it's getting damn near impossible to circumvent these bans. Upto Android 6, you could just provide fake device identifiers to the app with xposed modules and mess around with them but with all the exploits being patched, it is no longer that easy on a software level now.
Thanks for the response
We have tried xprivacy and haven’t had much luck. I’m trying to figure out what the next step is
In these forums the people aren’t experienced enough because this is really getting hard/technical, you’re looking in the wrong place sorry to tell you
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In these forums the people aren’t experienced enough because this is really getting hard/technical, you’re looking in the wrong place sorry to tell you
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There are many knowledgeable people on this forum, but with how large this site is, we can't all see everything. Comments like yours don't help, and I'd like to point you to Rule 10:
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If you have nothing constructive and helpful to say, it is probably better to say nothing.
@Laser422 What do you mean by "device ban"? Are you saying that the Play Store won't let you install the app? Can you provide screenshots? What make and model is your phone, and what OS version are you running? Is your bootloader unlocked and are you rooted?
Do this:
Go to Play Store. Tap profile icon upper right. Tap Settings.
Expand About section. Do you see "Play Protect certification - Device is certified"?
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@Laser422 What do you mean by "device ban"? Are you saying that the Play Store won't let you install the app? Can you provide screenshots? What make and model is your phone, and what OS version are you running? Is your bootloader unlocked and are you rooted?
Do this:
Go to Play Store. Tap profile icon upper right. Tap Settings.
Expand About section. Do you see "Play Protect certification - Device is certified"?
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It's most likely an account ban. Tinder probably thought he was catfishing. Or somebody reported him.
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With 43 billion matches to date, Tinder® is the world’s most popular dating app, making it the place to meet new people.
policies.tinder.com
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It's most likely an account ban. Tinder probably thought he was catfishing. Or somebody reported him.
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With 43 billion matches to date, Tinder® is the world’s most popular dating app, making it the place to meet new people.
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That wouldn't prevent him from installing the app. He just wouldn't be able to log in.
Or using a company phone with policy in place only allowing some apps
I wonder if IMEI number of phone can really be changed. I've been searching in the Internet for a while, but did not find a satisfying answer, because all of them differ from each other. I am going to summarize what I've found by now:
IMEI cannot be changed because it is stored in ROM memory,
IMEI can be changed using certain apps that are able to do this,
Such apps only change IMEI number that is displayed on the screen, but the real one stay untouched (supposed that it is true - how can I check if displayed IMEI is real or fake and how to check then the real one ?)
You can change IMEI via Service/Engineer Mode that can be accessed by typing secret code
(I tried this and I couldn't change there anything - there were only infos)
So as you can see, these answers are completely different. Could anyone refer to it?
P.S. If I've posted this thread in a wrong place, I apologize, but I'm a newbie here.
For as far as I know, IMEIs can be changed, with the right set of tools. It's still software after all. So...#2 seems to be the right answer here.
However, I would not recommend doing that. Cause you could easily create a duplicate of someone else's IMEI. Which is not gonna be fun.
I don't know about #3.
And Engineering mode (assuming you can access it) is mostly for factory testing, for as far as I know. Not changing IMEI. I guess it could be different from one phone to another, from one SOC to the other. But I doubt you would just have an option that says "change your IMEI".
So...I'd say better not go into this.
No, it is legally not possible to change the IMEI (usually), and very often it is punishable.
Yes, it is technically possible to change the IMEI (not always).
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yes iit can be changed, and thats what they do to "reactivate" those phones that are reported stolen/blacklisted
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Hello here. (I'm french, so be nice with my english please) I posting today to ask you if it exist a way to change an IMEI number on the Xiaomi REDMI 9T. Every explaination i've found are too much old (for android 5//6/7/8). {Mod edit} Thanks...
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I wonder if IMEI number of phone can really be changed.
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@Maciaz99 Thread closed!
Edit or change of IMEI is illegal in quite a few of countries. For this reason, I've closed and edited your thread! XDA doesn't allow and doesn't accept discussions about or support for such an edit or change.
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