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Tracker Software as OEM in every ROM

Hi all,
I'm not that far to create my own rom at the moment.
But i see some very nice tools to track your mobile when stolen.
If every ROM builder will implement a Tracker like:
http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net/index.html
in his rom as OEM than everyone can protect their phone even when it have been hard reset.
I thnk Remote Tracker is the best, it also support to be cooked in ROMS..
Someone else who share my idea?

160bpm said:
Hi all,
I'm not that far to create my own rom at the moment.
But i see some very nice tools to track your mobile when stolen.
If every ROM builder will implement a Tracker like:
http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net/index.html
in his rom as OEM than everyone can protect their phone even when it have been hard reset.
I thnk Remote Tracker is the best, it also support to be cooked in ROMS..
Someone else who share my idea?
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First of all after 39 posts, you should be now be aware of the rules against starting redundant posts on redundant subjects. This thread is on this same page. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362645
Secondly in this age of the super ram, lite , naked, strip it down ,fad. I doubt that people would want their resources taken up by yet another app that they never use or maybe, possibly, hopefully not, will only use once.
For me, I always have my phone secured in a holster. I only take it out to use, never place it down and never leave it anywhere. I would not want something " cooked " into a rom, that I will never use.
Plus if I can track my " stolen " phone, what keeps people from tracking me ?
A password ? A promise that my information will be kept private at all times,?

denco7 said:
First of all after 39 posts, you should be now be aware of the rules against starting redundant posts on redundant subjects. This thread is on this same page. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362645
Secondly in this age of the super ram, lite , naked, strip it down ,fad. I doubt that people would want their resources taken up by yet another app that they never use or maybe, possibly, hopefully not, will only use once.
For me, I always have my phone secured in a holster. I only take it out to use, never place it down and never leave it anywhere. I would not want something " cooked " into a rom, that I will never use.
Plus if I can track my " stolen " phone, what keeps people from tracking me ?
A password ? A promise that my information will be kept private at all times,?
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thats exactly what i was going to say

denco7 said:
Plus if I can track my " stolen " phone, what keeps people from tracking me ?
A password ? A promise that my information will be kept private at all times,?
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If you read some info.. When sim is changed only a txt msg will send to a trusted person you give up in the tool that sim is changed with GPS location.
And you can sent txt msg to the phone to remove contacts etc etc..

160bpm said:
If you read some info.. When sim is changed only a txt msg will send to a trusted person you give up in the tool that sim is changed with GPS location.
And you can sent txt msg to the phone to remove contacts etc etc..
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Thats not true........... Your device IMEI is part of the protocol the phone service probes and has records of, regardless of the ROM you install. Let us say your phone is stolen, then all you have to do is contact the phone company and request tag location on the IMEI. The phone company then, if you can prove that the phone was yours, will tell you what phone number is now using the device and will assist you locate the phone. The phone companies keep the paired IMEI and the SIM records to prevent theft and to establish warranty start time. Just keep your IMEI number handy if you need it later in case of loss or theft.
So in essence, all those phone locator's' software are nothing but scams.
I think this thread is redundant as Denco has established and needs to be closed.

I agree with the original poster. Every cooked ROM should include this.
And yes, it is password protected so nobody can track you unless you want them to. Not only is it password protected, but you also need the phone number of anyone you want to track. So unless someone has your phone number AND password, you don't need to worry about being tracked.
As far as a phone company helping locate your phone- good luck with that. I can just imagine an AT&T rep responding to that request in a timely fashion, lol.
If my phone ever gets stolen, I will know within 1 minute exactly where it is. And if I was using that app instead of the Sprite Terminator I am currently using, I could FTP all of the contents of my storage card so I don't lose anything, then remotely wipe and lock the device.
That other thread is talking about Sprite Terminator, not the Remote Tracker app this thread is discussing. I will mention Remote Tracker in that other thread and see if anyone bites...

Duplicate post and discussion, mods please close

Pisca said:
Duplicate post and discussion, mods please close
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It is not a duplicate. That other thread is discussing Sprite Terminator, not Remote Tracker. That is a totally different app. It's a commercial app that has to be purchased. This Remote Tracker app is a freeware app that even the creator supports and encourages cooking into ROMs.
We don't close IE threads as being duplicates of Opera threads, do we?

160bpm said:
If you read some info.. When sim is changed only a txt msg will send to a trusted person you give up in the tool that sim is changed with GPS location.
And you can sent txt msg to the phone to remove contacts etc etc..
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if you read some info you would know that you shouldn't have started a new thread for this in the "kaiser ROM development" forum and asfoor is right.
heres the kitty

msd24200 said:
if you read some info you would know that you shouldn't have started a new thread for this in the "kaiser ROM development" forum and asfoor is right.
heres the kitty
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If this is a duplicate thread, please post a link where they are discussng cooking this app into every cooked Kaiser ROM. The linked thead is NOT a duplicate. They are discussing a totally different app. And the moda even removed a link because the app they are discussing in that other thread is not freeware. To my knowledge, there is not another thread on the topic of cooking Remote Tracker into all cooked Kaiser ROMs. And if I am mistaken, please post a link.

SaltyDawg said:
If this is a duplicate thread, please post a link where they are discussng cooking this app into every cooked Kaiser ROM. The linked thead is NOT a duplicate. They are discussing a totally different app. And the moda even removed a link because the app they are discussing in that other thread is not freeware. To my knowledge, there is not another thread on the topic of cooking Remote Tracker into all cooked Kaiser ROMs. And if I am mistaken, please post a link.
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i never said it was a duplicate but the mentioned thread is about similar software at which point regardless neither that thread or this one should have been posted in this forum, go post in kaiser general, kaiser software or some other forum and keep threads not dealing with rom development out of here. if it's a question about if it can be added as a package, go post question in the thread for the kitchen one is using. way to many people starting non kaiser rom development related threads here in our rom development forum, WAY TO MANY look at all the threads that litter our forum.

msd24200 said:
i never said it was a duplicate but the mentioned thread is about similar software at which point regardless neither that thread or this one should have been posted in this forum, go post in kaiser general, kaiser software or some other forum and keep threads not dealing with rom development out of here. if it's a question about if it can be added as a package, go post question in the thread for the kitchen one is using. way to many people starting non kaiser rom development related threads here in our rom development forum, WAY TO MANY look at all the threads that litter our forum.
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The app in that other thread is nothing like this app. It has 1 or 2 of the same features and that's it. This app does a whole lot more than the other app.
Incidentally, I contacted Sprite about possibly turning the Sprite Terminator app into an OEM package for cooked ROMs and the freaked out about how they don't support cooked ROMs, and they're a Microsoft partner, and blah blah blah. This app we're talking about here already has an OEM package created by the app's developer. So it is totally different.
The reason he posted it in this forum is because he is asking that all future cooked ROMs contain this app. That is the whole point of this thread- getting this app cooked into all future cooked ROMs. And in that light, this is the perfect place for this thread.
Rather than looking for threads littering a forum, lets take a look at posts littering a good thread...
Incidentally- that other thread that is about doing this same thing with Sprite Terminator, a few mods even posted in that thread and there was not a peep about it not belonging in this forum. They did, however, say the OEM package had to be taken down for piracy concerns. That is not an issue with Remote tracker because the app developer created an OEM package himself and posted it here on XDA, with a tool to create the registry entries needed, and detailed instructions on how to cook it into a ROM.

Permission protected data spoofing on CM7

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,5677
This is an interesting patch to the CM7 repository frameworks base. If you scroll down and expand the comments you can follow the guys arguments on justifying such feature. Basically from what I understand this would allow you to spoof personal data to apps which may or may not request it. From contacts to SD card contents as well as phone IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity) number.
It's not a committed change but I wanted to see what the community thinks of having such feature. Personally I see all the reasons why this would open up a can of warms. What do you think?

I think in some other implementation this could be really helpful to the paranoid (like myself). However, I also think that those that are against it have VERY valid points. The community needs MORE widespread acceptance, not less, and something like this could cause major problems with Google, Carriers, Developers....
Sent from a bird cage, with a swing!

Correct me if I am wrong, but the intention is to spoof necessary data that an app might request that it doesn't actually need and to help prevent app force closes that straight up permission blocking causes. Like pandora requiring to read contact data.
Setting aside the other ramifications for a second... This is actually a good idea. It gives us power to not have to accept (for example) Pandora being greedy bastards.
Now the other ramifications are indeed severe. But for example, Swype. Why the hell can't I just buy it on the market?
I think arguing over it is a moot point. This cat is already out of the bag. We can't stuff it back in. This functionality is coming. Maybe not on Cyanogen, but it will be here for the masses soon. The greedy bastards that are trying to milk the system had just better deal with it.

Wow this thread could not have popped up at a worse time , what with all the NexusSense 0.3 users having trouble with their IMEI's.
But having read through all the comments on the change, i see why the CM team do not want to implement it, obviously this kind of change would piss off devs and carriers and of course google.
Yes it is a good idea for us users, but for CM's image and survivability , id say not having it is a sacrifice we need to make

First of all:
Wrong section.
Second: They won't add it anyway.
Some developers cried about it and everything.

dario3040 said:
First of all:
Wrong section.
Second: They won't add it anyway.
Some developers cried about it and everything.
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I figured this is about a development of Android ROM and posted in "Android Development" section. Forgive me if there was a better place to post it in.
This is also not marked as abandoned (as of this post) and still up for debate in the open section of Cyanogenmod Gerrit section.

For devices without an IMEI because they don't have a cellular radio, such as the Nook Color, some amount of this is valid and regarded as highly valuable. While I don't condone being able to haphazardly change or spoof your IMEI, I do believe that for devices that don't have an IMEI that some measure should be taken to create a device specific IMEI that will persist between different ROMs and ROM installations. Unfortunately with no IMEI support for devices like the Nook Color, there is no persistent ID that can be used. As developers continue to use the IMEI as a "device stable" ID, we need to come up with a way to support devices that don't have such an ID, and perhaps generate a non-colliding IMEI from a has of their login information, or some other identifying metric that will persist between different installations. The TAC could be created to identify the device type, and then the serial number could be generated based upon some information provided by the user.
In short, outright spoofing is probably a bad idea, but something needs to be done for devices that don't supply these sorts of IDs.

Can you be interested in a new keyboard type?

hi, I would need feedback and some advice on this topic, is there a need to change the way we enter data via our touch-screen?
the qwerty model keyboard, as functional as it is, doesn't prevent us from fully exploiting the flexibility that a touch screen offers?
Do you already know of any applications that are trying an innovative way?
something like this -> h__ps://78.media.tumblr.com/4b793885c31132b1db6a1bbcc517d0a4/tumblr_inline_n4t4ws6F821r0z1sd.gif
I have not found one so I made one, I developed a new app to enter data via touch input, i developed it for android system and allows you to completely customize the system with which to enter data; what does that mean?
means that every touch on the screen becomes a valid point for data entry and each of these various characters/actions/suggestions change positions and dimension based on different parameters, such as number of touches on the screen, screen size, screen orientation, screen definition, type of data to be entered, dictionary used.... too complicated? the app is currently in its final stage, and I am now developing a python library that allows you to create pkg of configurations;
What I would also ask you would support a crowdfunding campaign to complete this app and its supporting site?

crowdfunding campaign isn`t allowed on XDA
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As a user, you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work, however donations up front are not allowed. This forum is about sharing and not about getting paid to do something... that is what your job is for.
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xanthrax said:
crowdfunding campaign isn`t allowed on XDA
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the fact is that there is no fundraising campaign, and there will not be until I have finished all the work, and it will take a long time; the post I created was not to raise funds but to get an answer on what I think a big limit that we still carry behind, I wanted to open a discussion about what alternative to qwerty users believe should exist; if I expressed myself badly deleted even the post, it is not a problem : )

_U03C6_ said:
the fact is that there is no fundraising campaign, and there will not be until I have finished all the work, and it will take a long time; the post I created was not to raise funds but to get an answer on what I think a big limit that we still carry behind, I wanted to open a discussion about what alternative to qwerty users believe should exist; if I expressed myself badly deleted even the post, it is not a problem : )
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I did not say you started a campaign, I just pointed to the rules that a further discussion won`t derail towards crowdfunding, that`s all.
You are more than welcome to discuss anything else related to development and also post links , screenshots or anything wich can help you.
I also can move this thread to the Android General discussion section if you want, off-topic is basically non-development related so , your choice, just let me know

xanthrax said:
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I also can move this thread to the Android General discussion section if you want, off-topic is basically non-development related so , your choice, just let me know
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if this will increase the volume of discussion seems to me a good idea, thx

Question Circumventing application device ban

Does anyone know how to know how to circumvent a device ban on android? Clearing cache, deleting app, deleting app history does not work. They are placing a device ban for this particular app on the phone.
Any recommendations or advice appreciated.
Thank you.

They who. What app

Tinder

Maybe "They" think it is not appropriate. Any other app being blocked? When blocked does it give you some info/message

Am just trying to figure out how to circumvent a device ban. Have been researching xprivacy and things like this but have not quite figure out how they are linking the device. Even a factory reset doesn’t work.

If a factory reset didn't fix it I'd wonder if your phone is even legal? That pretty much has to be the IMEI is banned AFAIK.
Did you buy it from a legit source?

Laser422 said:
Am just trying to figure out how to circumvent a device ban. Have been researching xprivacy and things like this but have not quite figure out how they are linking the device. Even a factory reset doesn’t work.
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Probably IMEI based. That's what other apps like Snapchat have used for handing out device bans. You can't circumvent it if its IMEI based unless you know how to mask it or spoof it. The app may also look for additional things like the MAC address and IP address in combination.

enigmaamit said:
Probably IMEI based. That's what other apps like Snapchat have used for handing out device bans. You can't circumvent it if its IMEI based unless you know how to mask it or spoof it. The app may also look for additional things like the MAC address and IP address in combination.
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Yeah, I would imagine it is IMEI based.
Any recommendations on how to spoof it?
Thanks

Laser422 said:
Yeah, I would imagine it is IMEI based.
Any recommendations on how to spoof it?
Thanks
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I doubt XDA would take kindly to people advising how to conceal IMEI.

Journyman16 said:
I doubt XDA would take kindly to people advising how to conceal IMEI.
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Hello and good afternoon, @Journyman16
Just for your information: We do not allow discussions of or support for the change or edit of IMEI's. But we accept if the discussion is about the restoration or repair of the original IMEI. And we also allow spoofing or masking of IMEI as long as it's done on sofware level and the actual, original IMEI isn't tampered with. Spoofing of IMEI's is mainly used out of privacy concerns; however, if such talks deviate to illegal purposes we'd highly appreciate a report.
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Oswald Boelcke said:
Hello and good afternoon, @Journyman16
Just for your information: We do not allow discussions of or support for the change or edit of IMEI's. But we accept if the discussion is about the restoration or repair of the original IMEI. And we also allow spoofing or masking of IMEI as long as it's done on sofware level and the actual, original IMEI isn't tampered with. Spoofing of IMEI's is mainly used out of privacy concerns; however, if such talks deviate to illegal purposes we'd highly appreciate a report.
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Thanks for clarifying Oswald. I didn't know how it might be seen by XDA. TBH I didn't really know what a 'device ban' is having only heard of IMEI's being banned after the phone being stolen.

Laser422 said:
Yeah, I would imagine it is IMEI based.
Any recommendations on how to spoof it?
Thanks
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There used to be some ways to do that (with root) on older android versions, but i've never needed to try anything like this personally.
I believe there are xposed modules purpose built for obfuscating IMEI, MAC address and IP address, to disallow apps from identifying devices, like xprivacy, but again, I don't think these work on newer versions of Android.
You can try, but going by my current knowledge (on newer android versions), the only recourse you have is to get a new device (and preferably use a different account) to log into the app in question if it really matters to you.

Journyman16 said:
TBH I didn't really know what a 'device ban' is having only heard of IMEI's being banned after the phone being stolen.
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There are many apps that use "device ban" in addition to "account ban". They usually create a device ID in their database which is based on IMEI, MAC address and IP addresses, and can deny access to their services based on one or more of these identifiers.
Game companies do this all the time, and social media companies like SnapChat and TikTok also employ similar banning techniques. And over the years, it's getting damn near impossible to circumvent these bans. Upto Android 6, you could just provide fake device identifiers to the app with xposed modules and mess around with them but with all the exploits being patched, it is no longer that easy on a software level now.

Thanks for the response
We have tried xprivacy and haven’t had much luck. I’m trying to figure out what the next step is

In these forums the people aren’t experienced enough because this is really getting hard/technical, you’re looking in the wrong place sorry to tell you

Kekleroni said:
In these forums the people aren’t experienced enough because this is really getting hard/technical, you’re looking in the wrong place sorry to tell you
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There are many knowledgeable people on this forum, but with how large this site is, we can't all see everything. Comments like yours don't help, and I'd like to point you to Rule 10:
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do so. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably quite a few people with less experience than you, who could benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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If you have nothing constructive and helpful to say, it is probably better to say nothing.

@Laser422 What do you mean by "device ban"? Are you saying that the Play Store won't let you install the app? Can you provide screenshots? What make and model is your phone, and what OS version are you running? Is your bootloader unlocked and are you rooted?
Do this:
Go to Play Store. Tap profile icon upper right. Tap Settings.
Expand About section. Do you see "Play Protect certification - Device is certified"?

V0latyle said:
@Laser422 What do you mean by "device ban"? Are you saying that the Play Store won't let you install the app? Can you provide screenshots? What make and model is your phone, and what OS version are you running? Is your bootloader unlocked and are you rooted?
Do this:
Go to Play Store. Tap profile icon upper right. Tap Settings.
Expand About section. Do you see "Play Protect certification - Device is certified"?
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It's most likely an account ban. Tinder probably thought he was catfishing. Or somebody reported him.
Terms of Use
With 43 billion matches to date, Tinder® is the world’s most popular dating app, making it the place to meet new people.
policies.tinder.com

gernerttl said:
It's most likely an account ban. Tinder probably thought he was catfishing. Or somebody reported him.
Terms of Use
With 43 billion matches to date, Tinder® is the world’s most popular dating app, making it the place to meet new people.
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That wouldn't prevent him from installing the app. He just wouldn't be able to log in.

Or using a company phone with policy in place only allowing some apps

[CLOSED] Does changing IMEI really work?

I have a question, when the imei is changed to a rooted Android device, does the company operator see that new imei? Well, I understand that the imei is stored in ROM memory. Does any developer know how the Android OS accesses said IMEI number to send it to the operator?
Or do the magisk and app modules that mask the imei really cause the android system to send the changed imei when requesting the IMEI information?
Request this information not for illegal purposes, but to see the real usefulness of the apps that claim to be able to change the imei

MOD ACTION:
Thread closed.
@diro23
It is illegal in quite a few countries to change the IMEI. At XDA, we don't allow discussions on changing the IMEI.
Please read Rule 9:
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Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things which will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably shouldn't do it here either. This does not mean that we agree with everything that the software piracy lobby try to impose on us. It simply means that you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with the legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users and those that write great code.
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