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I came across this bit on wikipedia:
System access and copy protection
Applications developed for distribution on Google Play allow the developer to enable copy protection which prevents the end user from copying the application from the phone. Because the Android Dev Phone allows unrestricted access to the OS, this copy protection is disabled. If the developer enables copy protection on their application, then the application does not appear on Google Play for the Dev Phone.[3]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Dev_Phone#Galaxy_Nexus
Now i was thinking, isnt a rooted phone technically same as developer edition phone? After all they both would have unrestricted access to the OS. Therefore is it so that as my device is rooted I might be missing some apps (though I havent noticed so far!).
shmotog said:
I came across this bit on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Dev_Phone#Galaxy_Nexus
Now i was thinking, isnt a rooted phone technically same as developer edition phone? After all they both would have unrestricted access to the OS. Therefore is it so that as my device is rooted I might be missing some apps (though I havent noticed so far!).
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I don't think so, it should be the opposite, if you have root, you can modify your build.prop to make your device compatible with ALL Apps.
KuGeL94 said:
I don't think so, it should be the opposite, if you have root, you can modify your build.prop to make your device compatible with ALL Apps.
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Do you have a rooted device?
Can you confirm if there are some apps that you cant access (considering, or rather assuming, you havent modified your build.prof, yet).
shmotog said:
Do you have a rooted device?
Can you confirm if there are some apps that you cant access (considering, or rather assuming, you havent modified your build.prof, yet).
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I do have a rooted stock ROM, but havent stumbled across any app that I cant acces, maybe tell me some examples and i will see if i can acces them or not, there are always some apps that arent compatible like high end games or so because the hardware of the moto g isnt powerful enough, gta sa for example
I think apps like play TV & movies won't work, as well as some media streaming apps but not 100% been off the scene a few years.
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mutantlx said:
I think apps like play TV & movies won't work, as well as some media streaming apps but not 100% been off the scene a few years.
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bought a stupid movie by google play just to test, works. hunger games, supposed to be top film, couldnt stand 5 mins of it.
It's possible for an app developer to block installation on rooted devices for a specific app - e.g. the SkyGo (UK TV provider) and Barclays Online Banking app can't be installed on rooted devices. There aren't many though and for those that are blocked you will find a thread somewhere on XDA where clever people have worked away around the restriction or are trying working a way around the restriction.
neu - smurph said:
It's possible for an app developer to block installation on rooted devices for a specific app - e.g. the SkyGo (UK TV provider) and Barclays Online Banking app can't be installed on rooted devices. There aren't many though and for those that are blocked you will find a thread somewhere on XDA where clever people have worked away around the restriction or are trying working a way around the restriction.
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you are absolutely right about barclays. even though i dont have an account there, installed it just to test. quite disappointed.
my own banks app works but i read the fineprint and it said you shouldnt install it on rooted device, against t&c.
this is really depressing
Yep the restrictions on the Barclays app is the main reason I've left my Moto G stock.
What do the T&C's for your own banking app say? As far as I understand iit the worst case scenario is that your not covered for any loss if your bank account is hacked/defrauded AND the bank can categorically prove that the source of the hack was the app on a rooted device.
It does seem a bit ridiculous to me as there is nothing stopping anyone logging in to internet banking via their browser on a rooted phone, or for that matter on a computer in an Internet cafe somewhere which is IMHO far more risky. It's all about due diligence - if your account is defrauded and the bank can prove you haven't taken reasonable care with your bank cards / pin numbers / internet banking / connected apps and that is the cause of the fraud then you don't have the financial protection that you would get otherwise.
shmotog said:
you are absolutely right about barclays. even though i dont have an account there, installed it just to test. quite disappointed.
my own banks app works but i read the fineprint and it said you shouldnt install it on rooted device, against t&c.
this is really depressing
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I think there was a app called rootcloak and it hides root access, or something like that, you need xposed for it to work and if your already rooted might as well install xposed here's the link
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-xposed-tuesday-root-cloak-xda-developer-tv/
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tkelly0727 said:
I think there was a app called rootcloak and it hides root access, or something like that, you need xposed for it to work and if your already rooted might as well install xposed here's the link
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-xposed-tuesday-root-cloak-xda-developer-tv/
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cheers bro ill check that out
neu - smurph said:
Yep the restrictions on the Barclays app is the main reason I've left my Moto G stock.
What do the T&C's for your own banking app say? As far as I understand iit the worst case scenario is that your not covered for any loss if your bank account is hacked/defrauded AND the bank can categorically prove that the source of the hack was the app on a rooted device.
It does seem a bit ridiculous to me as there is nothing stopping anyone logging in to internet banking via their browser on a rooted phone, or for that matter on a computer in an Internet cafe somewhere which is IMHO far more risky. It's all about due diligence - if your account is defrauded and the bank can prove you haven't taken reasonable care with your bank cards / pin numbers / internet banking / connected apps and that is the cause of the fraud then you don't have the financial protection that you would get otherwise.
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Yeah you're absolutely right. However HSBC, the one I'm with, installs fine, but in its terms and conditions it says dont install if youre rooted. So well I uninstalled it before I even logged in with it. I just do banking on my desktop pc now.
Another app I came across that doesnt work in 4OD. At same time BBC iPlayer works.
neu - smurph said:
Yep the restrictions on the Barclays app is the main reason I've left my Moto G stock.
What do the T&C's for your own banking app say? As far as I understand iit the worst case scenario is that your not covered for any loss if your bank account is hacked/defrauded AND the bank can categorically prove that the source of the hack was the app on a rooted device.
It does seem a bit ridiculous to me as there is nothing stopping anyone logging in to internet banking via their browser on a rooted phone, or for that matter on a computer in an Internet cafe somewhere which is IMHO far more risky. It's all about due diligence - if your account is defrauded and the bank can prove you haven't taken reasonable care with your bank cards / pin numbers / internet banking / connected apps and that is the cause of the fraud then you don't have the financial protection that you would get otherwise.
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Could you confirm something for me, have you come across a Call Recorder that works on your moto g? I'm on ANDROREC and it works fine on 4.3 but when I updated to kitkat it stopped. Thats the primary reason why I rooted in first place to have call recorder. Could you check that for me @Neu-smurph?
tkelly0727 said:
I think there was a app called rootcloak and it hides root access, or something like that, you need xposed for it to work and if your already rooted might as well install xposed here's the link
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-xposed-tuesday-root-cloak-xda-developer-tv/
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installed xposed, 4od or barclay still dont work.
shmotog said:
Could you confirm something for me, have you come across a Call Recorder that works on your moto g? I'm on ANDROREC and it works fine on 4.3 but when I updated to kitkat it stopped. Thats the primary reason why I rooted in first place to have call recorder. Could you check that for me @Neu-smurph?
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It installs fine and appears to be working, but the recordings are empty - no audio.
Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
No ETA pls
Let's wait
funkyblue04 said:
Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
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There is no "usual" number. Some phones got root before they were even out officially. Some took a few days. Some took over a month. And some end up retired without a safe root option.
First rule of xda: don't ask for eta
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
funkyblue04 said:
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
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I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
I like to be about to restore all my data and apps with Titanium Backup. So much easier.
wolf0491 said:
I have nothing but force closes when restoring with titanium unless the ROM is very similar anyway. Like I was using AOSP on my Z before so I just came in fresh. Less issues down the road
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I've never had an issue switching ROM's being careful to avoid system apps and only restoring the call logs and SMS database, as well as non-system apps.
Everyone is different ☺ I also do nightly backups and sync with Dropbox.
Shudder123 said:
I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
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Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
Would love to see root but for now I can manage quite fine without it... There is less bloatware then with certain other brands and you can uninstall or disable quite a bit.
The few things I WOULD like:
* Completely remove unused system apps
* Change LCD Density (it's all soooo big now)
* Full SDCard read/write access for all apps. (I love quickpic as a gallery, but because I save my pics/vids to sdcard it can not remove anything now)
* Titanium backup. Have never ever had issues with this (only user apps+data for me most of the time) and that's with switching between different roms, brands, aosp/stock, etc... Never failed me
Chefproll said:
Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
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ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
cschmitt said:
ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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Not to mention Xposed and everything it offers.
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cschmitt said:
ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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ABP (please call it "Adblock Plus" so every readers knows what's meant) does not require root, but it's not too capable running under Android. It does a brilliant job with FireFox and Windows, but the Android implementation only captures a fracture of annoying ads. And: No plugin for defining your own black lists under Android.
AdAway additionally removes annoying ads from a wealth of apps. Just doesn't work without root.
Ok, I can hear you: "If everybody uses that means, app developers won't get paid."
Yes, that's correct.
But:
a) If I really like an app, I'll buy it. Example: Poweramp. NO ads, no annoyance. It just stops working after some time. I regard that as ok. I do NOT like apps getting on my nerves all the time.
My formula is simple: Annoying ads = deinstall, no purchase.
b) A majority of free app developers uses that "evil" ads, appearing at places previously occupied by regular buttons - so you tap on them although you just don't want to.
If that bad behavior gets to a stop, I'll think about disabling AdAway again. Fair play - but on BOTH sides.
So this is the first time I've witness a problem like this, where I want to download an app (Fire Emblem: Heroes), but the Play Store does not show it on my phone! When I search it on my computer it says it's not compatible with my devices. I figured it was due to root, so I unrooted a device that I soft rooted and it worked. I can now play on that device. However, my main device, my phone, is much more deeply rooted. So, is there a documented issue with apps not appearing on the play store due to root and is there any way to circumvent this? I want to avoid downloading apks from third party websites preferably, but the app itself has root detection on it as well once you DO install it! But basically, I don't want to miss out on a potentially good app because of some silly root check. If I don't see it I may never know about it!
Same problem here. So you are you sure that before the unroot the game wasn't working on your other phone? I never heard of apps not appearing in store due to root, usually you can download the app and then the ban happen as soon as you run it.
I'm on Galaxy S7 rooted android 6 tried on Nougat too but no luck. Also tried on Galaxy S4 and also i saw in the compatibily list also my old Lg G2 is not compatible, both are rooted too. I remember i was able to pre register too so now i'm pretty mad i can't play it since i'm a fan of the series.
Yeah, I'm sure. At first I was super confused. Then I tried using someone else's phone, and it not only showed up, but it showed an advertisement for the game on the front page! As soon as I unrooted my device, the app showed up on the front page of the play store and was searchable as well. Now when I search for the game on my computer it says "Some devices not compatible with this game" and it only shows my rooted phone as not being compatible. I agree with you that this is pretty bizarre. I didn't know Google Play went through that kind of effort detecting root, especially since they have apps that are root only. So the question now is, how do you hide root from Google Play?
How do you unroot your phone? I used the option on supersu to unroot but still the game says is not compatible.
You could try using Magisk to hide root.
Pwnycorn said:
You could try using Magisk to hide root.
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I tried Magisk but still no luck.Maybe there are some others remainings files on my phone that are detected or maybe i simply did something wrong i don't know.
I guess that's it, i'm not going to remove my root, really Nintendo surprise even on mobile with their retarded politics, i would have probably spended some money on the game only to support it like i did with other games i liked.
I removed root AND xposed. Maybe if you have xposed it still detects it. My unroot method was just using the superSU removal option. But like I said, my root was pretty light, I just rooted to uninstall a few stock verizon apps. If you have a rom with root embedded in it, you might not be able to unroot without reinstalling a new ROM. I understand Nintendo wanting to block rooted users since rooting is how you get hacks for your paid apps. However, they're isolating a pretty large base of players by doing that and it's probably not a good business decision. They're losing out more on the majority of people that don't risk installing said hacks on their phone. Those kind of hacks don't even break the game either, which makes it even more asinine. It would just be some guy ruining the game for himself by removing the limitation of orbs or experience.
P.S. It is a pretty good game and I'm fully enjoying myself with it. I might recommend getting a cheap $150 tablet to play it if you can't unroot.
I recently picked up a dji osmo 3 - a stabilizer gimbal.
I do not know why, but the app demands location access. It will not allow you to use the app if you do not grant it. I even tried granting permission and then while using the app revoking permission - the app then prompts you again for location access without anyway to denying access and still use the app.
I was wondering if there's some way to make the app think it has location access? Maybe just feed it a bogus set of GPS coords?
I'm guessing there is, but I'm also guessing I need to at least be rooted, which i am not. I'm using a Note 10+ 5g with verizon, not rooted/stock rom.
I'd conside rooting the phone though if that's required.
Thanks
merkk said:
I recently picked up a dji osmo 3 - a stabilizer gimbal.
I do not know why, but the app demands location access. It will not allow you to use the app if you do not grant it. I even tried granting permission and then while using the app revoking permission - the app then prompts you again for location access without anyway to denying access and still use the app.
I was wondering if there's some way to make the app think it has location access? Maybe just feed it a bogus set of GPS coords?
I'm guessing there is, but I'm also guessing I need to at least be rooted, which i am not. I'm using a Note 10+ 5g with verizon, not rooted/stock rom.
I'd conside rooting the phone though if that's required.
Thanks
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I think you'll find that interesting.
For your original question I don't think it's possible, but check the link
merkk said:
I recently picked up a dji osmo 3 - a stabilizer gimbal.
I do not know why, but the app demands location access. It will not allow you to use the app if you do not grant it. I even tried granting permission and then while using the app revoking permission - the app then prompts you again for location access without anyway to denying access and still use the app.
I was wondering if there's some way to make the app think it has location access? Maybe just feed it a bogus set of GPS coords?
I'm guessing there is, but I'm also guessing I need to at least be rooted, which i am not. I'm using a Note 10+ 5g with verizon, not rooted/stock rom.
I'd conside rooting the phone though if that's required.
Thanks
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Yes, it is commonly used on android, it is called "mock location".
There is more than one way or more than one app/tool that can be used. To find the method/app/tool that works best for you, do a google search for:
"Setup mock location on android"
Try the different methods that you find until one of them works for you.
As for rooting your device, if you got the device from Verizon, you probably won't be able to root the device because Verizon's devices all have locked bootloaders. The only way you would be able to root is if one of the universal rooting apps or rooting programs just happens to have an exploit that works on your device, but even that is a very slim chance because those kinds of apps and programs pretty much lost their effectiveness somewhere between android Marshmallow and Oreo.
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Raiz said:
I think you'll find that interesting.
For your original question I don't think it's possible, but check the link
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I'm sorry - check which link?
merkk said:
I'm sorry - check which link?
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Idk why and how it has been removed, here it is : https://www.wired.co.uk/article/x-privacy-android-app
Usually mods leave a note when a link is forbidden, but I'll advice you to follow the more complete answer from Droidriven.
Search for "mock location for Android" on google
Raiz said:
Idk why and how it has been removed, here it is : https://www.wired.co.uk/article/x-privacy-android-app
Usually mods leave a note when a link is forbidden, but I'll advice you to follow the more complete answer from Droidriven.
Search for "mock location for Android" on google
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Thanks, i'm doing that. Although so far using mock location seems to be an all or nothing approach - meaning EVERYTHING has a fake location or everything has the real location. I just want the one dji app to have fake data. Looks like the app you linked to is what i want, although it's outdated now. And requires root, which driodriven says I may not be able to do on my phone. I'll have to look into it further.
FYI, i found a link to an updated version of xprivacy - https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xprivacylua6-0-android-privacy-manager-t3730663 - i haven't found out yet if this new version requires the phone to be rooted...considering all it does i'd be surprised if it didn't.
merkk said:
Thanks, i'm doing that. Although so far using mock location seems to be an all or nothing approach - meaning EVERYTHING has a fake location or everything has the real location. I just want the one dji app to have fake data. Looks like the app you linked to is what i want, although it's outdated now. And requires root, which driodriven says I may not be able to do on my phone. I'll have to look into it further.
FYI, i found a link to an updated version of xprivacy - https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xprivacylua6-0-android-privacy-manager-t3730663 - i haven't found out yet if this new version requires the phone to be rooted...considering all it does i'd be surprised if it didn't.
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I'm not sure there is a way to make it apply to individual apps separately.
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I have 2 phones (same model) one rooted and the other one isn't. I have the same game installed on both phones, but when I open tapjoy on the rooted phone no offers for downloading apps or app actions appear, but on my non-rooted phone they do... So I really believe that tapjoy is somehow detecting root (I did magisk hide and safetynet pass).
All though I'm pretty sure tapjoy isdetecting root I did notice one weird thing on my rooted phone, when I search for "Alarmy" on Google Play it doesn't show up, but on my non-rooted phone it shows up in the play store (again same phone model and same android version! Android 11), this fact makes me uncertain if tapjoy is detecting root or not.
Does anyone know a solution or know what's going on?
Whether a phone's Android got rooted ( tampered in whatever way ) or not can easily be detected by any app.
People shouldn't believe that app developers aren't smart enough to detect it: they simply have to look inside vbmeta files and check for content of 2 bytes on fixed address.
jwoegerbauer said:
Whether a phone's Android got rooted ( tampered in whatever way ) or not can easily be detected by any app.
People shouldn't believe that app developers aren't smart enough to detect it.
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Yes, but there would still be a workaround.
What explains the Alarmy situation though? Alarmy doesn't show up in the Google Play Store before the app is installed
Zontraz said:
Yes, but there would still be a workaround.
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If you say so ...
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If you say so ...
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It's obvious there would be a workaround, I was just hoping someone here knew it. If you know the exact method that they use to detect root it would be easy to make a workaround depending on the method.
I don't know what method is used in Tapjoy: it would require to decompile the APK and to look into app's source code.
FYI: I will certainly not do that.