I came across this bit on wikipedia:
System access and copy protection
Applications developed for distribution on Google Play allow the developer to enable copy protection which prevents the end user from copying the application from the phone. Because the Android Dev Phone allows unrestricted access to the OS, this copy protection is disabled. If the developer enables copy protection on their application, then the application does not appear on Google Play for the Dev Phone.[3]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Dev_Phone#Galaxy_Nexus
Now i was thinking, isnt a rooted phone technically same as developer edition phone? After all they both would have unrestricted access to the OS. Therefore is it so that as my device is rooted I might be missing some apps (though I havent noticed so far!).
shmotog said:
I came across this bit on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Dev_Phone#Galaxy_Nexus
Now i was thinking, isnt a rooted phone technically same as developer edition phone? After all they both would have unrestricted access to the OS. Therefore is it so that as my device is rooted I might be missing some apps (though I havent noticed so far!).
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I don't think so, it should be the opposite, if you have root, you can modify your build.prop to make your device compatible with ALL Apps.
KuGeL94 said:
I don't think so, it should be the opposite, if you have root, you can modify your build.prop to make your device compatible with ALL Apps.
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Do you have a rooted device?
Can you confirm if there are some apps that you cant access (considering, or rather assuming, you havent modified your build.prof, yet).
shmotog said:
Do you have a rooted device?
Can you confirm if there are some apps that you cant access (considering, or rather assuming, you havent modified your build.prof, yet).
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I do have a rooted stock ROM, but havent stumbled across any app that I cant acces, maybe tell me some examples and i will see if i can acces them or not, there are always some apps that arent compatible like high end games or so because the hardware of the moto g isnt powerful enough, gta sa for example
I think apps like play TV & movies won't work, as well as some media streaming apps but not 100% been off the scene a few years.
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mutantlx said:
I think apps like play TV & movies won't work, as well as some media streaming apps but not 100% been off the scene a few years.
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bought a stupid movie by google play just to test, works. hunger games, supposed to be top film, couldnt stand 5 mins of it.
It's possible for an app developer to block installation on rooted devices for a specific app - e.g. the SkyGo (UK TV provider) and Barclays Online Banking app can't be installed on rooted devices. There aren't many though and for those that are blocked you will find a thread somewhere on XDA where clever people have worked away around the restriction or are trying working a way around the restriction.
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It's possible for an app developer to block installation on rooted devices for a specific app - e.g. the SkyGo (UK TV provider) and Barclays Online Banking app can't be installed on rooted devices. There aren't many though and for those that are blocked you will find a thread somewhere on XDA where clever people have worked away around the restriction or are trying working a way around the restriction.
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you are absolutely right about barclays. even though i dont have an account there, installed it just to test. quite disappointed.
my own banks app works but i read the fineprint and it said you shouldnt install it on rooted device, against t&c.
this is really depressing
Yep the restrictions on the Barclays app is the main reason I've left my Moto G stock.
What do the T&C's for your own banking app say? As far as I understand iit the worst case scenario is that your not covered for any loss if your bank account is hacked/defrauded AND the bank can categorically prove that the source of the hack was the app on a rooted device.
It does seem a bit ridiculous to me as there is nothing stopping anyone logging in to internet banking via their browser on a rooted phone, or for that matter on a computer in an Internet cafe somewhere which is IMHO far more risky. It's all about due diligence - if your account is defrauded and the bank can prove you haven't taken reasonable care with your bank cards / pin numbers / internet banking / connected apps and that is the cause of the fraud then you don't have the financial protection that you would get otherwise.
shmotog said:
you are absolutely right about barclays. even though i dont have an account there, installed it just to test. quite disappointed.
my own banks app works but i read the fineprint and it said you shouldnt install it on rooted device, against t&c.
this is really depressing
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I think there was a app called rootcloak and it hides root access, or something like that, you need xposed for it to work and if your already rooted might as well install xposed here's the link
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-xposed-tuesday-root-cloak-xda-developer-tv/
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tkelly0727 said:
I think there was a app called rootcloak and it hides root access, or something like that, you need xposed for it to work and if your already rooted might as well install xposed here's the link
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-xposed-tuesday-root-cloak-xda-developer-tv/
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cheers bro ill check that out
neu - smurph said:
Yep the restrictions on the Barclays app is the main reason I've left my Moto G stock.
What do the T&C's for your own banking app say? As far as I understand iit the worst case scenario is that your not covered for any loss if your bank account is hacked/defrauded AND the bank can categorically prove that the source of the hack was the app on a rooted device.
It does seem a bit ridiculous to me as there is nothing stopping anyone logging in to internet banking via their browser on a rooted phone, or for that matter on a computer in an Internet cafe somewhere which is IMHO far more risky. It's all about due diligence - if your account is defrauded and the bank can prove you haven't taken reasonable care with your bank cards / pin numbers / internet banking / connected apps and that is the cause of the fraud then you don't have the financial protection that you would get otherwise.
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Yeah you're absolutely right. However HSBC, the one I'm with, installs fine, but in its terms and conditions it says dont install if youre rooted. So well I uninstalled it before I even logged in with it. I just do banking on my desktop pc now.
Another app I came across that doesnt work in 4OD. At same time BBC iPlayer works.
neu - smurph said:
Yep the restrictions on the Barclays app is the main reason I've left my Moto G stock.
What do the T&C's for your own banking app say? As far as I understand iit the worst case scenario is that your not covered for any loss if your bank account is hacked/defrauded AND the bank can categorically prove that the source of the hack was the app on a rooted device.
It does seem a bit ridiculous to me as there is nothing stopping anyone logging in to internet banking via their browser on a rooted phone, or for that matter on a computer in an Internet cafe somewhere which is IMHO far more risky. It's all about due diligence - if your account is defrauded and the bank can prove you haven't taken reasonable care with your bank cards / pin numbers / internet banking / connected apps and that is the cause of the fraud then you don't have the financial protection that you would get otherwise.
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Could you confirm something for me, have you come across a Call Recorder that works on your moto g? I'm on ANDROREC and it works fine on 4.3 but when I updated to kitkat it stopped. Thats the primary reason why I rooted in first place to have call recorder. Could you check that for me @Neu-smurph?
tkelly0727 said:
I think there was a app called rootcloak and it hides root access, or something like that, you need xposed for it to work and if your already rooted might as well install xposed here's the link
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-xposed-tuesday-root-cloak-xda-developer-tv/
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installed xposed, 4od or barclay still dont work.
shmotog said:
Could you confirm something for me, have you come across a Call Recorder that works on your moto g? I'm on ANDROREC and it works fine on 4.3 but when I updated to kitkat it stopped. Thats the primary reason why I rooted in first place to have call recorder. Could you check that for me @Neu-smurph?
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It installs fine and appears to be working, but the recordings are empty - no audio.
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As title suggests, coming from a so called "clean" iOS environment to Android, my main concern how susceptible is my data to being stolen. I have no (current) plans to root my next phone and will be used mainly from business, but from what I have read in the past even google play store apps have been to known to have malicious content. Am I worrying too much ? I do carry sensitive work data on my iPhone.
applefag said:
As title suggests, coming from a so called "clean" iOS environment to Android, my main concern how susceptible is my data to being stolen. I have no (current) plans to root my next phone and will be used mainly from business, but from what I have read in the past even google play store apps have been to known to have malicious content. Am I worrying too much ? I do carry sensitive work data on my iPhone.
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As long as the apps you install are from known sources (i.e. Play Store) you don't need to worry. Also every time you download an app check the permissions. If you think that the app shouldn't have those permissions then don't download it. Finally for safety reasons never install any apps from unknown sources (i.e. outside of Play Store) unless you trust the developer.
If you still find yourself worrying read this.
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Am I worrying too much ?
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Yep
I think you won't install any app outside Google Play so install apps that you know and you won't need to worry. FYI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux
kalpetros said:
Also every time you download an app check the permissions. If you think that the app shouldn't have those permissions then don't download it.
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Well only if you are sure. Sometimes apps need permissions that aren't justified for some people.
for the open nature of the android ecosystem, it is somewhat normal that you will have to be careful though there are several different techniques, i use this the most.
Root your phone, install xposed framework and install xprivacy. here is a review of what it does http://www.xda-developers.com/android/manage-individual-app-permissions-with-xprivacy/ . I know the installation pprocess may seem daunting, but it is easier than you think this module wil allow you to block apps of certain permission. IE. you can block location service for all the apps on your phone so that no app can get your location. There are bunch of other permissions that you can block like access to contact, gallery etc
My question to others is : Is antivirus application on android worth it? I mean can it protect me from real time attaks and malwares??
SaffatBokul said:
My question to others is : Is antivirus application on android worth it? I mean can it protect me from real time attaks and malwares??
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Not useful IMO. FYI I remember this article.
User sensibility is your best defense. Don't install apps not from the market. Only install apps with a lot of positive comments.
I would advise again rooting your phone. It's true that there are ways to block apps from accessing your private data on a rooted phone, but the additional vulnerability from unlocking your bootloader and rooting is not worth it. Just stick to apps from major developers.
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User sensibility is your best defense. Don't install apps not from the market. Only install apps with a lot of positive comments.
I would advise again rooting your phone. It's true that there are ways to block apps from accessing your private data on a rooted phone, but the additional vulnerability from unlocking your bootloader and rooting is not worth it. Just stick to apps from major developers.
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I agree, rooting your phone comprimises your security even if you do it to install security apps.
Primokorn said:
Yep
I think you won't install any app outside Google Play so install apps that you know and you won't need to worry.
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Unfortunately, new apps in Google Play are rarely verified by Google staff, so there is still always a possibility of trojan or other malware.
Anyone managed to find a working safe package disabler? I feel all this bloatware is whats really killing my battery even tho I disabled &got rid of what I could. And even turned off the features I wouldn't be using that constantly drain. But I think the processes are still running for example the fingerprint process which I refuse to even use. I'd love to root but I think the tmobile s7 has been done yet.
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
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That one requires root though.
0dBu said:
That one requires root though.
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It works without root, it just doesn't remove them and instead only disables.
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
AndroiderM said:
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
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It got taken down at this time
nest75068 said:
It got taken down at this time
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Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
mknewman said:
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
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It should be noted, that NO, THE BUILT IN ONE does not work fine, and while you mentioned the other tmobile apps, you (probably intentionally) didn't mention the terrible, disable-proof, insulting, MEMORY INTENSIVE harassment of code that is the pointless T mobile "my account" app, with its system monitoring, and permanent notifications you have to jump through hoops to disable.
The fact that I have 200 MORE Samsung apps that I'm forced to run than my vanilla android counter parts is almost as insulting as the fact that Facebook, (and messenger), whatsapp, 5 pointless t mobile apps (2 of which are trials for premium paid features) are considered equally important and can't be uninstalled.
Thats purely asinine, and the watered down built in version does nothing about the services or dependent processes (aka battery consumption and everything else)
The T mobile hidden package "com.tmobile.pr.adapt" is so invasive that it quietly asks for root, the SECOND it detects the binary and DOES SO AGAIN AND AGAIN, OVER AND OVER without us ever getting an explanation...now it even shows up in marshmallow with data usage access... the only reason we know it even exists, or wants root, is supersu pops up, as our battery bottoms out...
Now, package disabler pro is gone from the store..oh wait...is it? Or is it just gone for Samsung devices? Or maybe just T Mobile, Samsung devices? Hrrmmm
No. The built in watered down version which doesn't help us with a package like tmobile.pr.adapt or let us disable every single thing we choose to, is simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
flyingwolf said:
Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
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It's only gone for certain devices...
My Account is not enabled on my S7 unless I start it up myself. The com.tmobile.pr.adapt is enabled but if you disable Diagnostics under App Settings in T-Mobile for me it uses very little data, 14mb in almost a month for me, and T-Mo claims that the usage is not charged to you. You are correct you cannot stop it with the default application manager, but it will not show up in the task bar unless you manually start it.
I'm not going to get into root issues, my phone is on the Jump on Demand so I'm planning to trade up every few months and yeah root is nice but for the most part unless you are a dev (I am not) you shouldn't need it. I'd love to have my copy of Root Explorer and Titanium Backup work (for restores) but can get along without it. If I really needed that stuff I wouldn't have given up my Sony Xperia Z Ultra which was running CM to go to a new unrooted platform.
Hi,
I have been using EZ package disabler since I got my S7 Edge and I am happy with it. Unfortunately, when the software update came, with too much excitement, I forgot to enable all disabled apps prior to updating the firmware. I have updated the firmware with apps disabled. What problem should I be facing? What should I do? Currently I am not experiencing any problems but I suspect that the disabled apps where not optimized. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
You can still find package disabler pro. Won't post the link because forum rules but Google is your best friend. I have it in my SD card.
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I recently picked up a dji osmo 3 - a stabilizer gimbal.
I do not know why, but the app demands location access. It will not allow you to use the app if you do not grant it. I even tried granting permission and then while using the app revoking permission - the app then prompts you again for location access without anyway to denying access and still use the app.
I was wondering if there's some way to make the app think it has location access? Maybe just feed it a bogus set of GPS coords?
I'm guessing there is, but I'm also guessing I need to at least be rooted, which i am not. I'm using a Note 10+ 5g with verizon, not rooted/stock rom.
I'd conside rooting the phone though if that's required.
Thanks
merkk said:
I recently picked up a dji osmo 3 - a stabilizer gimbal.
I do not know why, but the app demands location access. It will not allow you to use the app if you do not grant it. I even tried granting permission and then while using the app revoking permission - the app then prompts you again for location access without anyway to denying access and still use the app.
I was wondering if there's some way to make the app think it has location access? Maybe just feed it a bogus set of GPS coords?
I'm guessing there is, but I'm also guessing I need to at least be rooted, which i am not. I'm using a Note 10+ 5g with verizon, not rooted/stock rom.
I'd conside rooting the phone though if that's required.
Thanks
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I think you'll find that interesting.
For your original question I don't think it's possible, but check the link
merkk said:
I recently picked up a dji osmo 3 - a stabilizer gimbal.
I do not know why, but the app demands location access. It will not allow you to use the app if you do not grant it. I even tried granting permission and then while using the app revoking permission - the app then prompts you again for location access without anyway to denying access and still use the app.
I was wondering if there's some way to make the app think it has location access? Maybe just feed it a bogus set of GPS coords?
I'm guessing there is, but I'm also guessing I need to at least be rooted, which i am not. I'm using a Note 10+ 5g with verizon, not rooted/stock rom.
I'd conside rooting the phone though if that's required.
Thanks
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Yes, it is commonly used on android, it is called "mock location".
There is more than one way or more than one app/tool that can be used. To find the method/app/tool that works best for you, do a google search for:
"Setup mock location on android"
Try the different methods that you find until one of them works for you.
As for rooting your device, if you got the device from Verizon, you probably won't be able to root the device because Verizon's devices all have locked bootloaders. The only way you would be able to root is if one of the universal rooting apps or rooting programs just happens to have an exploit that works on your device, but even that is a very slim chance because those kinds of apps and programs pretty much lost their effectiveness somewhere between android Marshmallow and Oreo.
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Raiz said:
I think you'll find that interesting.
For your original question I don't think it's possible, but check the link
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I'm sorry - check which link?
merkk said:
I'm sorry - check which link?
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Idk why and how it has been removed, here it is : https://www.wired.co.uk/article/x-privacy-android-app
Usually mods leave a note when a link is forbidden, but I'll advice you to follow the more complete answer from Droidriven.
Search for "mock location for Android" on google
Raiz said:
Idk why and how it has been removed, here it is : https://www.wired.co.uk/article/x-privacy-android-app
Usually mods leave a note when a link is forbidden, but I'll advice you to follow the more complete answer from Droidriven.
Search for "mock location for Android" on google
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Thanks, i'm doing that. Although so far using mock location seems to be an all or nothing approach - meaning EVERYTHING has a fake location or everything has the real location. I just want the one dji app to have fake data. Looks like the app you linked to is what i want, although it's outdated now. And requires root, which driodriven says I may not be able to do on my phone. I'll have to look into it further.
FYI, i found a link to an updated version of xprivacy - https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xprivacylua6-0-android-privacy-manager-t3730663 - i haven't found out yet if this new version requires the phone to be rooted...considering all it does i'd be surprised if it didn't.
merkk said:
Thanks, i'm doing that. Although so far using mock location seems to be an all or nothing approach - meaning EVERYTHING has a fake location or everything has the real location. I just want the one dji app to have fake data. Looks like the app you linked to is what i want, although it's outdated now. And requires root, which driodriven says I may not be able to do on my phone. I'll have to look into it further.
FYI, i found a link to an updated version of xprivacy - https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xprivacylua6-0-android-privacy-manager-t3730663 - i haven't found out yet if this new version requires the phone to be rooted...considering all it does i'd be surprised if it didn't.
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I'm not sure there is a way to make it apply to individual apps separately.
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I have 2 phones (same model) one rooted and the other one isn't. I have the same game installed on both phones, but when I open tapjoy on the rooted phone no offers for downloading apps or app actions appear, but on my non-rooted phone they do... So I really believe that tapjoy is somehow detecting root (I did magisk hide and safetynet pass).
All though I'm pretty sure tapjoy isdetecting root I did notice one weird thing on my rooted phone, when I search for "Alarmy" on Google Play it doesn't show up, but on my non-rooted phone it shows up in the play store (again same phone model and same android version! Android 11), this fact makes me uncertain if tapjoy is detecting root or not.
Does anyone know a solution or know what's going on?
Whether a phone's Android got rooted ( tampered in whatever way ) or not can easily be detected by any app.
People shouldn't believe that app developers aren't smart enough to detect it: they simply have to look inside vbmeta files and check for content of 2 bytes on fixed address.
jwoegerbauer said:
Whether a phone's Android got rooted ( tampered in whatever way ) or not can easily be detected by any app.
People shouldn't believe that app developers aren't smart enough to detect it.
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Yes, but there would still be a workaround.
What explains the Alarmy situation though? Alarmy doesn't show up in the Google Play Store before the app is installed
Zontraz said:
Yes, but there would still be a workaround.
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If you say so ...
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If you say so ...
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It's obvious there would be a workaround, I was just hoping someone here knew it. If you know the exact method that they use to detect root it would be easy to make a workaround depending on the method.
I don't know what method is used in Tapjoy: it would require to decompile the APK and to look into app's source code.
FYI: I will certainly not do that.
Hello,
I was browsing around XDA the other day. I stumbled across the name of an app with a GitHub page. I am trying to remember the name of the app and cannot. It said it would allow root apps to function without actually rooting your phone. Does anyone happen to know what it is called?
I have a Pixel 4xl. I can and have rooted it before. However, even though I hid Magisks and excluded a app for a real casino I got banned. They tried to say it was because I was not able to be geolocated. However, the app confirmed with a message stating my phone was rooted.
I would like to be able to run AdAway without having to allow it to work via VPN. I already have a VPN which I use when I am not playing one of my online casinos. There are also a few more root apps I like. I would like to use them without any worry.
Thank you,
Rocky
what device?
aIecxs said:
what device?
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Pixel 4xl I ended up finding the app. It was Shizuku. I did not get a change to read all about it when I first heard about it. The page I was viewing almost made it sound like a magisk replacement. Then, my phone died and I couldn't remember what it was called.
I wish there was an app or something that will allow this permissions for apps that need them to work better. However, remain undetectable at the same time. That would be great. There are a few root apps I love to install. However, root is not as popular as it once was to me at least.
that app allows running as adb shell, no root access can be provided.
@bigroc2223
Watch this video
Only caveat: ROMs available are only Android 7.1